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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 826

ToadYoshi | Posted 2/11/2010 3:04:34 PM | message detail
If you want to kick Guybrush out of the contest, insert disk #23, #47, and #114.
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Guru contest: 49/53 (T3) Misses: Boss, Altair, Kefka.
Next upset: Terra > Revan
red sox 777 | Posted 2/11/2010 3:08:06 PM | message detail
We need Guybrush. If we're going to have fodder, it's better to have a character with a fanatical fanbase and massively higher strength in Europe than Tales fodder character #20.
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charmander6000 | Posted 2/11/2010 3:10:06 PM | message detail
New fodder > old fodder.

Though I think we've reached a point where even the fodder well is getting dry.
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Character Battle VIII - 43/52 - Today's Winners: Auron and Zero
Fayt_Esteed | Posted 2/11/2010 3:13:01 PM | message detail
We need Guybrush. If we're going to have fodder, it's better to have a character with a fanatical fanbase and massively higher strength in Europe than Tales fodder character #20.

I'd rather have new fodder than old fodder.
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 2/11/2010 3:13:15 PM | message detail
Awesome characters > Boring characters.

The reason why Guybrush has been in so many contests even if he have always looked really weak is because he actually is one of the most unique characters in the contest.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 2/11/2010 3:18:10 PM | message detail
Actually, looks like Zero/Auron is a night match. Auron may break 45% because of stupid-ass england
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charmander6000 | Posted 2/11/2010 3:19:06 PM | message detail
I hope that's a typo >_>
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Character Battle VIII - 43/52 - Today's Winners: Auron and Zero
HaRRicH | Posted 2/11/2010 3:19:36 PM | message detail
Though I think we've reached a point where even the fodder well is getting dry.

AKI Man
Awesome Possum
Booger Man
Klaymen
Iggy
Starshot
Kazooie
Tip Tup
every F-Zero racer aside from Captain Falcon
every Robot Master and Maverick from the Mega Man games
and more.....

Oh, don't you worry, we've got fodder aplenty!



I know what you mean.
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charmander6000 | Posted 2/11/2010 3:21:04 PM | message detail
You're thinking turbo-fodder, at least Guybrush has a chance against those.
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Character Battle VIII - 43/52 - Today's Winners: Auron and Zero
nintendogirl1 | Posted 2/11/2010 3:21:18 PM | message detail
CHIBI ROBO
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My personal fodder flavour.
KamikazePotato | Posted 2/11/2010 3:22:03 PM | message detail
An electroplankton

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charmander6000 | Posted 2/11/2010 3:23:03 PM | message detail
Guys we all know we must get Mr. Game & Watch into one of these things

Maybe Jigglypuff to complete the original smash set.
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Character Battle VIII - 43/52 - Today's Winners: Auron and Zero
LeonhartFour | Posted 2/11/2010 3:25:22 PM | message detail
HaRR, your list lacks Bad Mr. Frosty.

I am disappointed.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 2/11/2010 3:25:48 PM | message detail
Murray, the fearsome demonic skull!
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Gr8CyberMonkey | Posted 2/11/2010 3:26:13 PM | message detail
We can still have every single Animal Crossing town member.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/11/2010 3:26:42 PM | message detail

From: Gr8CyberMonkey | #415
We can still have every single Animal Crossing town member.


Brewster or bust!
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charmander6000 | Posted 2/11/2010 3:27:04 PM | message detail
How about that new Pokemon that was just revealed?
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Character Battle VIII - 43/52 - Today's Winners: Auron and Zero
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 2/11/2010 3:27:52 PM | message detail
Err, 55%
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KamikazePotato | Posted 2/11/2010 3:27:57 PM | message detail
Any character from Planescape: Torment.

I won't be picky!

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HaRRicH | Posted 2/11/2010 3:29:16 PM | message detail
Any character from The Dig!
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thok | Posted 2/11/2010 3:29:38 PM | message detail
If we're looking for fodder, Dr. Light and every FF1 class would be reasonable choices. I'm not sure why there hasn't been a push to put Fighter into the tourney (he strikes me as the strongest FF1 class; Black Mage may be stronger, but is redundant with Vivi already around.)

MM Robot Masters are likely too weak. Gutsman might get enough of a boost from MMBN to be merely fodder instead of awful, but Lan would be a better test of Battle Network's lack of strength. Other than that you'd be guessing at what MM2 or 3 masters would be decent.
TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 2/11/2010 3:29:58 PM | message detail
I agree that Guybrush is an essential part of the contest, but he ended up massively overseeded this year. Seriously, a 9-seed? I know the seeds were based on nominations, but common sense says that he's not a nine-seed.

What he is is a jobber. His job is to show up every year and lose in the first round. Same as CATS, Crash Bandicoot (except for in CB1, where he was overseeded and received true fodder for round 1), Tails, and just about anyone from a Tales game. Does this mean that they don't belong? No, they belong. The ones that get blown out and never appear again, they're the true fodder. These guys, they're at a level where they belong in the contest, but always against a superior opponent.
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charmander6000 | Posted 2/11/2010 3:35:37 PM | message detail
Funny part is that it's a day match which means less Europe.
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Character Battle VIII - 43/52 - Today's Winners: Auron and Zero
LOLContests | Posted 2/11/2010 3:58:51 PM | message detail
Stop supporting Guybrush! He was never a "contest staple" and stop using revisionist history to say otherwise.

Isn't three generations of fodder enough?
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 2/11/2010 4:04:17 PM | message detail
I agree that Guybrush is an essential part of the contest, but he ended up massively overseeded this year. Seriously, a 9-seed? I know the seeds were based on nominations, but common sense says that he's not a nine-seed.


Then again his opponent is by far the most underseeded character in the bracket, so it's ok that Guybrush is a 9th seed.
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charmander6000 | Posted 2/11/2010 4:06:54 PM | message detail
So, Vincent with the blowout of the contest? The only other character that hasn't tried yet is Tifa.
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Character Battle VIII - 43/52 - Today's Winners: Auron and Zero
creativename | Posted 2/11/2010 4:08:56 PM | message detail
I'm with new fodder>old fodder.

But the best scenario is new characters who might actually be decent. Characters like Darunia, Nabooru, Rufus Shinra, Red XIII, etc. can provide vastly more fun matchups that utter garbage useless crap character #137. Discussion of a new midcard level character gives us much more fun stuff to talk about than a wasted blowout match that brings nothing to the table.
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 2/11/2010 4:11:54 PM | message detail
Oh I forgot who Tifa's opponent was. Yeah I think she gets the biggest blowout.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 2/11/2010 4:16:01 PM | message detail
Then again his opponent is by far the most underseeded character in the bracket, so it's ok that Guybrush is a 9th seed.

...What? >_> <_<
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charmander6000 | Posted 2/11/2010 4:16:35 PM | message detail
Yeah, that would probably go to MMX.
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Character Battle VIII - 43/52 - Today's Winners: Auron and Zero
charmander6000 | Posted 2/11/2010 4:35:15 PM | message detail
Match LV: (7) Darth Revan vs. (10) Terra Branford

Information

Name: Darth Revan
Game/Series: Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
Previous Contest: N/A
Performance: N/A

Name: Terra Branford
Game/Series: Final Fantasy VI
Previous Contest: 2006
Performance: Lost to Zelda in round 2

Analysis

Ever since Kefka’s performance I have been quite nervous about this match. While some people remain confident I see two characters that vary in strength where we could have an easy win to another upset. A lot of people that do remain confident have played KotOR, but at the same time they could be bias, especially since Revan was a Nomination Rally Tournament winner.

While some people think that the name Darth and a light sabre will give Darth a boost because of Star Wars fans, but personally I don’t think that will be the case. First of all he’s from a game that appeals to Star Wars fans and second unless people recognize the guy they probably won’t vote for him. Just look how badly Kyle Katarn performed in the GameSpot contest, the guy was bad fodder despite holding a light sabre. If Revan wins it will be because of his own strength, not because of his item.

Revan’s strength has been the biggest debate of this contest. KotOR fans declare that Revan would be much stronger than HK-47 I however find it hard to believe. If Revan was that well liked it he would have made it to the contest as early as 2004 and have not require a rally to reach the contest. It is pretty rare to get a character that is by far the strongest after an initial character has already reached the contest, especially when that character didn’t receive a joke rally. I just find it weird that people forget to nominate Revan year after year while nominating HK-47, but when he reaches the bracket they realize how much they love him. Revan isn’t some popular side character from an ensemble game that people may have forgotten to nominate.

After the performances of Cecil and Kefka it seems old Final Fantasy may have gotten a boost from Dissidia. The last we saw Terra was back in 2006 where she was crushed by Zelda despite doing as expected against Kerrigan. Back then she was high fodder, but she could have dropped since then. On the other hand Dissidia could provide her a boost which is what I fear right now. Sure Cecil may have been SFF by Zack in the previous contest, but Kefka had no reason to crush Arthas that badly. I know a lot of people want to blame Arthas for that, but I would be shocked if he was the only one to blame.

With a combination of overrating Revan and underrating Terra I’ve seen some people predict quite the crushing. I think Revan will struggle to get his win and should Terra get the upset I will not be the least bit surprised. Either way this is only a one point match as the loser loses to Squall in the next round.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Darth Revan > Terra Branford

charmander6000’s Prediction: Revan wins, 54.73% - 45.27%

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Character Battle VIII - 43/52 - Today's Winners: Auron and Zero
nintendogirl1 | Posted 2/11/2010 4:49:10 PM | message detail
From: charmander6000 | #431
Revan’s strength has been the biggest debate of this contest.

Did you miss the fire-breathing dragon in the bracket?
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Karma Hunter | Posted 2/11/2010 5:01:41 PM | message detail
The idea of Revan being weaker than HK-47 continues to stupefy me. I'll have to believe it when I see it; I'm expecting a blowout on his end tonight.

This 'NRT bias' is kinda silly, too. I didn't even know Revan was in the NRT! And he probably didn't need it to get in anyway.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 2/11/2010 5:13:58 PM | message detail
The only thing Revan needed to get in was for his name to be put in the database, as issues with his name (you know them, if you don't, play KOTOR) probably prevented him from getting in. Same with Red. Ken got a lot more NRT support and still ended up a 13 seed.

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voltch | Posted 2/11/2010 5:16:06 PM | message detail

From: nintendogirl1 | #430
From: charmander6000 | #431
Revan’s strength has been the biggest debate of this contest.

Did you miss the fire-breathing dragon in the bracket?


Did you forget about the silent protagonist from the 3rd strongest game on the site?
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Karma Hunter | Posted 2/11/2010 5:23:20 PM | message detail
Nice show here from Zero, by the way; most impressive performance he's had since 2004 (Crono R2 in 2007 was a total fluke caused by the picture, look at the difference in Raiden improving on Crono and how worse HK-47 did on Zero that round). This is only a few points shy of what Auron did to Fenix, albeit another year removed from his best days and with Rydia in the poll.

He just needs to keep that up and not get humiliated by Auron next round.
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voltch | Posted 2/11/2010 5:26:59 PM | message detail
MMX is the only one of team Capcom who seems to have really disappointed so far.
Kinda weird maybe MM9/10 really is making a bit of a difference.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 2/11/2010 5:28:20 PM | message detail
Auron got 71% on Marcus in 2008. Does that give Zero a shot at 45% on Auron next round?

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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 2/11/2010 5:32:15 PM | message detail
Late post, but about the fodder debate...

Guybrush is essential for the contests? He's not a board legend and he doesn't have a funny board vote. Heck, he has no board history whatsoever. He's just weak as hell and can never win a non-horrible match (Laharl/Neku). It's almost like saying Jade Curtiss is essential for the contests, the only difference being Guybrush got his butt kicked a couple of times in 1v1 as well.

As for the argument of old fodder vs. new fodder, how about no fodder? Yes, there's always the possibility new entrants tank, but why rally behind oldies we know are weak (unless there's a good reason, like a new game)? I know these old weak characters have fans, but forcing them into the contests and into more predictable buttkickings doesn't make things funner for the majority of us, and it won't compel any (or hardly any) of us to try their games. Just let them be. Hell, they probably have enough fans outside the board to make the contest anyway; we ALWAYS get more fodder than we wanted. The board should stick to nominating characters who would make for great matches. And CATS, but he's the lone exception.
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red sox 777 | Posted 2/11/2010 5:37:10 PM | message detail
With 128 characters, fodder is inevitable. With 64 characters, I'd like a very small number (like 4) fodder characters to give some of our Noble Niners big blowouts in round 1 and provide variety.

Guybrush isn't essential but he's much better than most of our fodder characters and I'm fine with having him in 128 character contests. With 64 character contests, we should have different fodder every year.
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voltch | Posted 2/11/2010 5:38:54 PM | message detail
in 128 the fodder should be gotten rid of quickly, having fodder win 2 matches causes a few problems cos once they hit a mid or higher, man the blowouts are just out of place.
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 2/11/2010 5:42:09 PM | message detail
How about when fodder breaks 75%?

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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 2/11/2010 5:48:36 PM | message detail
in 128 the fodder should be gotten rid of quickly, having fodder win 2 matches causes a few problems cos once they hit a mid or higher, man the blowouts are just out of place.

Speaking of which... *points to Link vs Scorpion*
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TheCodeisBosco | Posted 2/11/2010 5:50:02 PM | message detail
Cripes, Marcus, you're not even going to avoid the doubling? Yeesh!

Can't wait for Revan/Terra tonight. Even if Revan loses, I'm sure it'll be a great match.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 2/11/2010 5:51:13 PM | message detail
Any result where Revan isn't giving Terra the beating of her life can't be characterized as a 'great' anything!
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TheCodeisBosco | Posted 2/11/2010 5:54:44 PM | message detail
Any result where Revan isn't giving Terra the beating of her life can't be characterized as a 'great' anything!

I just like watching close matches, and tonight's is probably the last of Round One that could potentially be close (except maybe Soap/Big Daddy).

But at the same time, if Revan stomps Terra, I'd have no problem with that either!

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KamikazePotato | Posted 2/11/2010 6:37:45 PM | message detail
Revan stomping Terra would give us a lot more to talk about than it being a close match!

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FFDragon | Posted 2/11/2010 6:38:57 PM | message detail
Terra stomping Revan would give us the most to talk about though!
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 2/11/2010 6:42:29 PM | message detail

From: FFDragon | #448
Terra stomping Revan would give us the most to talk about though!


Not really. Then we just assume the old FF guys got a Dissidia boost and that Revan was at or beneath HK-47's level. Revan stomping Terra means that he's either a very legit contender (assuming Dissidia boost), or that Terra still blows, and that Knuckles (and, in effect, Shadow and Sonic) look even more pathetic than before.
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voltch | Posted 2/11/2010 6:49:26 PM | message detail
screw it, i'm going to bed.
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