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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 826

LOLContests | Posted 2/10/2010 9:13:46 PM | message detail
Aeris <3 <3 <3

~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~
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~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~
http://board8.wikia.com/

~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~
http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/
http://thengamer.com/xstats
http://thengamer.com/stats

~*Character Contest Histories (Thanks to Raven 2 for the info transfer)*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Contest_Histories

~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

~*All the match pics*~
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/index.php

~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages

~*Poll Start Times*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Character_Battle_8_Poll_Start_Times

~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~

SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them.

X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process.

Noble Nine - Link, Cloud, Sephiroth, Mario, Crono, Solid Snake, Sonic, Samus and Mega Man.

Near-Elite - The Squall, Auron, Tifa, Vincent, Zelda, Kirby, etc group that has come at, near or even ahead of Noble Nine characters in the past.

The Fodder Line - A final X-Stat value of 15% or below.

For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 2/10/2010 9:14:14 PM | message detail
This Aeris love disgusts me

disgusts me

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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/10/2010 9:14:22 PM | message detail
Squall > Auron

Leonhart > HaRRicH
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red sox 777 | Posted 2/10/2010 9:14:22 PM | message detail
We're using this topic.

Also, I don't think a stats topic has hit 500 before the next one was created in a long time.
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6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....
Not_Wylvane | Posted 2/10/2010 9:14:25 PM | message detail
Best 500 post we'll ever have IMHO.
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 2/10/2010 9:14:30 PM | message detail
at this point, auron might not even beat zero

what a joke. FFX musta fallen since all its characters have looked bad this year
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ZFS | Posted 2/10/2010 9:14:48 PM | message detail
Squall > Auron

bzzt

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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 2/10/2010 9:14:52 PM | message detail
FF7 is a beast, Cloud > Link
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red sox 777 | Posted 2/10/2010 9:15:07 PM | message detail
Also, I'm not sure why people are so disappointed in Auron. Were you all expecting him to SFF Aeris or something?
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6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....
vcharon | Posted 2/10/2010 9:15:19 PM | message detail
"lol"
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/10/2010 9:15:19 PM | message detail
Looks like we're already kinda settling in.
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charmander6000 | Posted 2/10/2010 9:15:21 PM | message detail
Damn it guys I was panicking when I couldn't find the stats topic.
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Character Battle VIII - 43/52 - Today's Winners: Auron and Zero
Draco1214 | Posted 2/10/2010 9:15:39 PM | message detail
...Aeris would probably beat Zero.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/10/2010 9:15:39 PM | message detail

From: Cyclo_Reaper | #006
at this point, auron might not even beat zero

what a joke. FFX musta fallen since all its characters have looked bad this year


Good grief, Albion. Shut up.
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GrapefruitKing | Posted 2/10/2010 9:15:42 PM | message detail
phew, nice recovery
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 2/10/2010 9:15:55 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #009
Also, I'm not sure why people are so disappointed in Auron. Were you all expecting him to SFF Aeris or something?


yeah, thats my biggest thing. I expected high 60s, cuz a stronger character is supposed to lay the SFF down on a weaker character from the same series. If anything, this is rSFF..
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 2/10/2010 9:16:31 PM | message detail
So much for FF7 disappointing, huh?

I mean, Zack already contradicted it, but that FF7 deboost was just wishful thinking.

That doesn't mean there's no Dissidia deboost! Samus > Cloud train re-railed!
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KamikazePotato | Posted 2/10/2010 9:16:35 PM | message detail
stop responding to Albion, people

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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 2/10/2010 9:16:39 PM | message detail
Albion, you're pulling a Black Turtle man.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/10/2010 9:16:45 PM | message detail

From: Cyclo_Reaper | #016
yeah, thats my biggest thing. I expected high 60s, cuz a stronger character is supposed to lay the SFF down on a weaker character from the same series. If anything, this is rSFF..


Yeah, except for that whole "Good luck SFFing FFVII if you're not an FFVII character" thing.
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GrapefruitKing | Posted 2/10/2010 9:16:47 PM | message detail
I expected high 60s

you're... not really good at this, are you?
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charmander6000 | Posted 2/10/2010 9:16:53 PM | message detail
yeah, thats my biggest thing. I expected high 60s, cuz a stronger character is supposed to lay the SFF down on a weaker character from the same series. If anything, this is rSFF..

FFVII > FFX

lrn to hierarchy.
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Character Battle VIII - 43/52 - Today's Winners: Auron and Zero
LeonhartFour | Posted 2/10/2010 9:17:27 PM | message detail
Enough with the hierarchy!
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 2/10/2010 9:17:36 PM | message detail
albion more like shut upbion
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 2/10/2010 9:17:45 PM | message detail
But FFX > FFVIII!

Auron > Squall upset is back on!
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 2/10/2010 9:17:46 PM | message detail

From: TheKoolAidShoto | #019
Albion, you're pulling a Black Turtle man.


oh god I didn't realize what I've done

I'll stop now
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 2/10/2010 9:18:04 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #009
Also, I'm not sure why people are so disappointed in Auron. Were you all expecting him to SFF Aeris or something?


Seems like a few people were. I had 58/42; hoping Aeris can make a good go of that.

And the Aeris hate is pretty understandable. Tifa is meek, can't do much without her man, comes included with two life rafts, and wears skimpy clothing. I'm surprised so much of the fanbase even appreciate Aeris when every nerd's wet dream is right there. You'd think the split would be 80/20.
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red sox 777 | Posted 2/10/2010 9:18:04 PM | message detail
This isn't rSFF, this is Auron getting what he would get indirectly. Just because two characters overlap, there doesn't have to be SFF.

And Auron only got 54% on Sonic last year. There's only so much you have laugh at Sonic without it rubbing off on Auron by association.
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6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....
Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 2/10/2010 9:19:19 PM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #027
Seems like a few people were. I had 58/42; hoping Aeris can make a good go of that.

And the Aeris hate is pretty understandable. Tifa is meek, can't do much without her man, comes included with two life rafts, and wears skimpy clothing. I'm surprised so much of the fanbase even appreciate Aeris when every nerd's wet dream is right there. You'd think the split would be 80/20.


I feel sorry for Aerith. She'd be like the hottest girl in most RPGs, but when you gotta compete with Tifa, she is forgotten by the horny nerds.
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LOLContests | Posted 2/10/2010 9:19:19 PM | message detail
you're... not really good at this, are you?

Hey, I'm a huge Aeris fan and I was fearing a potential 70/30 beatdown!

SFF is a crazy thing.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 2/10/2010 9:19:26 PM | message detail
As bad as Aeris is, Tifa is infinitely worse. Cloud really got the short end of the stick in love interests.

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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 2/10/2010 9:19:29 PM | message detail
Whats with all this Aeris love anyway? Tifa was faaaaaar superior, more of a fighter, a take charge gal, and also doesn't have a giant masamune wound through her large chest. And I don't even like Tifa that much.

Thats just how mediocre a character Aeris is
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/10/2010 9:19:36 PM | message detail
Aerith isn't as hated as people think she is. She's not as strong as she was in 2002 and 2003, but don't forget how good she was in both of those years.
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 2/10/2010 9:20:28 PM | message detail
As bad as Aeris is, Tifa is infinitely worse. Cloud really got the short end of the stick in love interests.


He had Jessie!

Too bad she had the most tragic death in all of FFVII.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 2/10/2010 9:20:36 PM | message detail
And the Aeris hate is pretty understandable. Tifa is meek, can't do much without her man, comes included with two life rafts, and wears skimpy clothing. I'm surprised so much of the fanbase even appreciate Aeris when every nerd's wet dream is right there. You'd think the split would be 80/20.

Aw yeah yo with good taste zone

Go Aeris! I have Auron pegged at 56% here and I have him beating Squall! Granted I'm prone to severe Aeris overestimation and I don't really know why I have that happening, but whatever!
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ZFS | Posted 2/10/2010 9:20:43 PM | message detail
I figured Auron would put up some big numbers because I didn't think too many people preferred her to him. Turns out that's not the case! This isn't a disaster showing, though -- Aerith is still stronger than most.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/10/2010 9:20:53 PM | message detail
And we've proven why we never wait for stat topics to reach 500 during contest season. Sheesh.
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GrapefruitKing | Posted 2/10/2010 9:21:09 PM | message detail
this match makes me think...

I would've loved to see Crono vs. Vincent again now that 1v.1 matches are back. Think that Crono would win with 55% again? Too bad Vincent is wasted in Round 2 though...
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 2/10/2010 9:21:28 PM | message detail
Squall's gonna 55-45 this scrub.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/10/2010 9:21:49 PM | message detail
He had Jessie!

Too bad she had the most tragic death in all of FFVII.


Man, I don't know how many years it took before I realized Jessie wasn't a dude.
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 2/10/2010 9:22:04 PM | message detail
The thing with Aerith is she never really impresses in contests, so I forgot she had any strength. I thought she was just more of a mid card >_>
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red sox 777 | Posted 2/10/2010 9:22:30 PM | message detail
Jessie would so beat Cait Sith in a match!
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6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....
TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 2/10/2010 9:22:53 PM | message detail
Tifa really let me down. When Cloud gone temporarily, I was like "Hey, maybe its time for Tifa to take her two big assets and lead the team!" Then as soon as Cloud comes back, she immediately hands over all responsibilities to him. Weaksauce.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/10/2010 9:23:02 PM | message detail
The FFVII hierarchy pretty clearly goes Cloud > Sephiroth >>> Vincent > Tifa > Zack > Aerith

But Aerith's not THAT far behind the rest of those guys.
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Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 2/10/2010 9:23:34 PM | message detail
pfft Reno would beat Aerith
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 2/10/2010 9:24:05 PM | message detail
http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/File:50px-Ff7_jesse.jpg

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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/10/2010 9:24:09 PM | message detail
Rufus Shinra > Reno, son
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TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 2/10/2010 9:24:30 PM | message detail
Geh...didn't see this coming. And here I thought female FF characters were always put in unwinnable situations.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 2/10/2010 9:24:52 PM | message detail
Aerith > Auron > Squall!

I don't really like any of them, though.

Solid performance from Auron assuming he ends up above 58% or so. Probably won't change much since FFX is nearly as good as FFVII at night, and Aerith doesn't appear to be getting antivoted like Cloud and co.
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red sox 777 | Posted 2/10/2010 9:24:54 PM | message detail
FFVII has so much depth in its characters, strength-wise. Though I still think Saria, Malon, Talon, and Nabooru would be decent in a contest.
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6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....