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I don't think we're expecting too much out of Soap. He is a CoD character. Although we expect him to be close to Big Daddy, I don't think it would be too surprising if he wasn't. Soap also has the excuse of Bioshock 2 being a very recent release that causes Big Daddy to boost in strength.
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"Those whose memories fade seek to carve them in their hearts..."
"All dreams are but another reality. Never forget..."

Eddie Riggs is so bad that most of the board has forgotten about him.
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Character Battle VIII - 42/50 - Today's Winners: Pikachu and Ellis

You know vote totals aren't as bad as I thought. We're heading for around 68k.
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Character Battle VIII - 42/50 - Today's Winners: Pikachu and Ellis

At the current pace Shep is gaining with the ASV, he may hit 77% Damn good show all around, and I don't think anyone can deny he's at least a low mid card now.
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I Am Albion Hero!

Man how about some love for the guy who let ratchet post 70% on him.

No. That is just plain awful.
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"Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia

hehe, Soap looks like travis bickle.
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Shakes Fist!

I'd probably take Eddie Riggs over Ellis.

hehe, Soap looks like travis bickle.

Whoa, you're right! :O

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Chop Chop Master Onion for Character Battle '11!
Kick, punch, it's all in the mind!

Are people actually scared of Auron losing to Aeris?
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Not scared. I'd welcome it with open arms.
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Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world!

Your arms are gonna tire long before that happens!
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*weeps quietly to Aeris's theme*
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Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world!

Heh. I didn't think Ellis was gonna be worth much of anything, but I would've taken him easily over Banjo. Looks like we gotta start hoping that ME2 is giving Shep enough GAME FUEL to make a grand upset next round!
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I'd probably take Eddie Riggs over Ellis.

L4D2 would crush whatever game Riggs comes from. Ellis would beat him no problem.
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"Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever
Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename

But as humiliating as it is to get doubled by Ratchet, getting tripled by Shepard is probably more embarrassing. Games don't equal characters.

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Chop Chop Master Onion for Character Battle '11!
Kick, punch, it's all in the mind!

Just so I'm prepared...

If Pikachu triples Shepard next round, how much "Pikachu>Snake in the sprite round FEAR" talk will I be forced to put up with?
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Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world!

But as humiliating as it is to get doubled by Ratchet, getting tripled by Shepard is probably more embarrassing. Games don't equal characters.

Trying to gauge anything from fodder beatdowns is a stupid idea. Use your head here.
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Banjo would probably double Ellis.

...gross.
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If you're seeing this sig, I'm not on my computer!

Btw, I think this pretty much proves without any doubt the whole "new character starring in one well-received game being weak" theory.
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"Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever
Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename

Wait, what theory is that?
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If Pikachu triples Shepard next round, how much "Pikachu>Snake in the sprite round FEAR" talk will I be forced to put up with?

Consider how much you have to put up with now.

Double it.

Add six.

Divide by ten.

Subtract the number you started with.

Your number is "not gonna be a traditional sprite round anyway and it's a night match so Pikachu gets pasted worse than Protoman"
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The theory that came up during the Ezio hype.
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"Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever
Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename

It depends entirely on how strong that single game is. A single game worked wonders for Crono, Cloud, and Sephiroth.
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6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....

Were those games brand new during the 2002 contest?
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"Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever
Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename

I'd love to see Auron lose to Aeris (even made some Aeris R2/3 pics), but I doubt it can happen.
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Are you arguing that Cloud wouldn't have done well in a 1997 or 1998 contest? The fact that the top games that have come out since 2002 have been generally a lot weaker than the top games of the 10 years before that does not mean that newness is necessarily bad- it just means these new games aren't very strong.
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6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....

The fact that the top games that have come out since 2002 have been generally a lot weaker than the top games of the 10 years before that does not mean that newness is necessarily bad- it just means these new games aren't very strong.

All new games are weak until they have enough time to build a fanbase. No exceptions. If we had this contest right when FF7 came out, Cloud would be a midcarder.
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"Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever
Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename

So you're saying Cloud would have done a lot better in say, SC1999? I guess that makes sense if his game sold a lot more in the intervening period. On the other hand, we've seen the effects of hype and excitement for a new release, and they are very very powerful.
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6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....

Trying to gauge anything from fodder beatdowns is a stupid idea. Use your head here.

Fodder beatdowns aren't particularly helpful, no, but there's pretty much no other data available. Well, besides one GotY poll for L4D2 and a few upcoming release polls for both games... but of course, those are even less help.

Not that it really matters - Ellis/Eddie isn't worth seriously discussing or anything.

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Chop Chop Master Onion for Character Battle '11!
Kick, punch, it's all in the mind!

So you're saying Cloud would have done a lot better in say, SC1999? I guess that makes sense if his game sold a lot more in the intervening period. On the other hand, we've seen the effects of hype and excitement for a new release, and they are very very powerful.

Not for a brand new character. Actually, the best match based on that scenario is Lightning/Sonic, and even then she's already out in Japan and Sonic is weaker than hell right now.
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Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever
Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename

Off the top of my head, Amaterasu was decent in her first contest, even though Okami had been out for less than a year. But in general, that theory seems pretty accurate.

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Chop Chop Master Onion for Character Battle '11!
Kick, punch, it's all in the mind!

Still don't understand why I kept Aerith over Auron... Probably cause I just had played through FFX again and was reminded what whiny little *female dog* Auron really is. The voice and character art covers it well, but he really is a whiny little girl on the inside... Aswell as self important and obnoxious...
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If Lightning/Sonic is the best example, then that hurts your case. She already got 37% on Sonic now, with FFXIII out in North America, she'd probably come pretty close to beating him. FFXIII is the biggest game starring new characters on the site since probably FFX or KH, but that's just the point- there's no cap on a character's strength from being new.
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6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....

Ah...so you're saying Ellis bombing proves that theory right? It's not like most people expect anything from most L4D-characters though (especially L4D2-characters), plus neither L4D-game's been THAT well received here:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3358
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3477
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3684
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3722


I don't actively disagree with the theory though, mainly because the top games of every year we've had a contest have a hard time competing with the top games of the years before our contests. Perhaps that fits with your theory, perhaps that's an issue with the three-console market, perhaps gaming just isn't as good or defining to the visitors here as the games of old, perhaps some other stuff...

...but Ellis isn't a good example to make a stand with your theory.
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Unless you're saying that more games are better than less, and a character getting a sequel will always help- but that's obvious.
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6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....

Tidus was probably the strongest he ever was in 2002, honestly. Maybe 2003, but it'd be close. Sora probably would've done rather well for himself in 2003 if he doesn't get stuck with Aerith right off the bat (although we'll never know). Kratos did fine in 2005. Marcus Fenix is definitely one of those characters who was stronger his first year than his second.
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...but Ellis isn't a good example to make a stand with your theory.

He wasn't, Ezio was. Ellis just further proves it.
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Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever
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2003 was Tidus's best year, I think. Wasn't he supposed to get like 49% on Mega Man in 2004?
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Yeah, just like Magus was supposed to be capable of beating Sonic >_>
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2003 was Tidus's best year, I think. Wasn't he supposed to get like 49% on Mega Man in 2004?

Sonic, but he was also in Magus's 4-pack that year. He was supposed to get 45% on Mega Man. Mario and Mega Man were relative equals and Tidus and Shadow were relative equals in 2003, so that played out to about 45%.

One of the weirdest things ever was that Tidus/Shadow still turned out to be a close match like the 2003 stats predicted in spite of both of their number's being total flukes.
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Tidus was probably the strongest he ever was in 2002, honestly. Maybe 2003, but it'd be close.

Tidus looked strong in 2003 because of Link/Magus. And in 2002 he only got 41% on Sonic. Good, but he'd do better nowadays I believe.

Kratos did fine in 2005.

He did better later on though.

Marcus Fenix is definitely one of those characters who was stronger his first year than his second.

Just because he made it to round 3 does not mean he was strong. I mean, he had a really close match with Kefka, and followed that up with another really close match with Ocelot. >_>
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"Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever
Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename

And in 2002 he only got 41% on Sonic. Good, but he'd do better nowadays I believe.

That's because of what happened to Sonic!
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6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....

One of the weirdest things ever was that Tidus/Shadow still turned out to be a close match like the 2003 stats predicted in spite of both of their number's being total flukes.

FACT.
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All we know is that Tidus/Magus/Ganondorf used to all be within points of each other, and we have no idea what Ganondof and Magus were the next year.
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Krahen Prophet did a fatality.

Just because he made it to round 3 does not mean he was strong. I mean, he had a really close match with Kefka, and followed that up with another really close match with Ocelot. >_>

And then he loses to Rydia in 2008. >_>
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"Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia

And then he loses to Rydia in 2008. >_>

She was fresh off of a DS remake so it's not as bad as it looks.
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"Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever
Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename

L4D2 would crush whatever game Riggs comes from. Ellis would beat him no problem.

As true as this may be, Brutal Legend was a great game!
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Maybe so, but it never made any sort of impact anywhere, and was the quietest "big name" game last year.
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Tidus looked strong in 2003 because of Link/Magus.

49% on Ganondorf is still pretty good, even if 2003 Ganon was the weakest we've ever seen.

She was fresh off of a DS remake so it's not as bad as it looks.

There's really never an excuse for someone who beat Kefka and Ocelot to lose to Rydia unless we're arguing Rydia is a low midcarder and is the strongest FFIV character.

He did better later on though.

Kratos got stronger once a sequel was released? Well, fancy that! He was still a decent midcarder right off the bat.
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So what are the predictions on Revan/Terra exactly? I'm kind of expecting somewhat of a close battle.
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