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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 824

Lightslayer987 | Posted 2/9/2010 3:06:31 PM | message detail
I wouldn't be surprised at all if Yuri becomes a staple like Lloyd and Kratos in these contests. He was the number 1 Tales character in their latest official poll.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 2/9/2010 3:09:23 PM | message detail
Yuri's awesome, but all his appeal is pretty much intra-fanbase. He can't muster up a pic to look as badass as, say, Kratos' last match - and even that couldn't keep him in the game against Sackboy! I'm feeling Tifa takes him to town (but hopefully he can impress...).
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ZFS | Posted 2/9/2010 3:09:56 PM | message detail
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Man, I don't know about this. Do we need the filter and the picture frame.

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Lightslayer987 | Posted 2/9/2010 3:10:39 PM | message detail
My biggest concern with round 2 pics isn't even the filter and frame... its the lack of names. Have we ever had match pics without names?
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ZFS | Posted 2/9/2010 3:11:48 PM | message detail
Names shouldn't matter. The vote options are lined up with the pics, and there's not really anyone who needs their name displayed on the pic to know who they are in round 2.

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Lightslayer987 | Posted 2/9/2010 3:12:53 PM | message detail

From: ZFS | #255
Names shouldn't matter. The vote options are lined up with the pics, and there's not really anyone who needs their name displayed on the pic to know who they are in round 2.


You are giving the average voter too much credit.
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Japago | Posted 2/9/2010 3:12:53 PM | message detail
I don't know about Yuri. Tales of Symphonia seems like it's far and away the most popular of the series. Isn't Jade Curtiss universally liked by the fanbase as well?

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frisqo | Posted 2/9/2010 3:14:36 PM | message detail
Woo! just checked it out and finally made the leaderboard for the first time ever (been making brackets since the 2002 contest too).

I'm mildy upset for going Geno>Ness but taking Liquid to R3 is the biggest burner. My Snake>Sephiroth pick is looking terrible too ;_; (should've taken Charizard>Sora as the crazy upset i debated between both and felt that Snake was safer, rofl)

Oh, an lol ToS. Who/why do these jokers even get nominated?
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Lightslayer987 | Posted 2/9/2010 3:15:11 PM | message detail

From: Japago | #257
I don't know about Yuri. Tales of Symphonia seems like it's far and away the most popular of the series. Isn't Jade Curtiss universally liked by the fanbase as well?


He was like top 5 in the last Tales popularity poll iirc. Lemme see if I can find that poll..

http://neko4eva.wordpress.com/2008/12/22/4th-tales-character-popularity-poll/


1.) Yuri Lowell (Tales of Vesperia)
2.) Leon/Lion Magnus (Tales of Destiny)
3.) Luke fon Fabre (Tales of the Abyss)
4.) Lloyd Irving (Tales of Symphonia)
5.) Jade Curtiss (Tales of the Abyss)
6.) Guy Cecil (Tales of the Abyss)
7.) Kratos Aurion (Tales of Symphonia)
8.) Zelos Wilder (Tales of Symphonia)
9.) Raven (Tales of Vesperia)
10.) Emil Castagnier (Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World)
11.) Rita Mordio (Tales of Vesperia)
12.) Tear Grants (Tales of the Abyss)
13.) Asch (Tales of the Abyss)
14.) Stahn/Stan Aileron (Tales of Destiny)
15.) Colette/Collet Brunel (Tales of Symphonia)
16.) Reid/Rid Hershel (Tales of Eternia)
17.) Estelle (Tales of Vesperia)
18.) Spada Belforma (Tales of Innocence)
19.) Mighty Kongman/Bruiser Khang (Tales of Destiny)
20.) Judas (Tales of Destiny 2)
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ZFS | Posted 2/9/2010 3:15:37 PM | message detail
People tend to not give the average voter enough credit, actually. You don't have to be some super hardcore dude to know which one is Mega Man and which one is Red.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/9/2010 3:16:07 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #240
Ness looks like something out of a horror movie. I don't know if it's the lighting or what but he just looks evil.


Whoever made that picture has evidently watched "There Will Be Brawl."
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 2/9/2010 3:16:12 PM | message detail
I don't know about Yuri. Tales of Symphonia seems like it's far and away the most popular of the series. Isn't Jade Curtiss universally liked by the fanbase as well?

As far as Jade is concerned... That didn't save him from stinking up the joint in 2007 and 2008.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 2/9/2010 3:16:32 PM | message detail
There aren't really any unrecognizable characters in Round 2 anyway, so names aren't too important.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 2/9/2010 3:18:52 PM | message detail
Jade and Yuri are *very* different, let's not make two bones about this there. Jade is a fan-favorite that doesn't necessarily appeal to even most of the people that have played Tales of the Abyss - he's got a Citan/Fei style relationship to Luke there.

Yuri is the main character of ToV, and is far and away the most badass character there.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 2/9/2010 3:19:48 PM | message detail
Maybe if Soap wins...
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/9/2010 3:20:20 PM | message detail

From: Lightslayer987 | #254
My biggest concern with round 2 pics isn't even the filter and frame... its the lack of names. Have we ever had match pics without names?


Plenty of times.

The 2002 final between Mario and Link didn't have names (not that they needed them). The 4th and 5th rounds of 2003 (Link/Samus, Cloud/Sonic, Mario/Sephiroth, Snake/Mega Man, Cloud/Link, and Sephiroth/Mega Man) didn't have names on the pics. None of the Battle Royale matches except for the final had names on the pics. No big deal.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 2/9/2010 3:21:27 PM | message detail
Soap wins and gets no name on his pic in R2? Feelin' better about having Ness to R3! <_<
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firefdr | Posted 2/9/2010 3:21:40 PM | message detail
People will see Vader vs. Squall and probably think "where the **** is the Vader option?"

>_>
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 2/9/2010 3:21:53 PM | message detail
Flynn > Yuri tbqh
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Lightslayer987 | Posted 2/9/2010 3:21:58 PM | message detail
so you are telling me glados, kefka, issac, roxas, shepard, revan, and soap all have no issues with picture recognizability without a name?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/9/2010 3:22:09 PM | message detail
Too bad Big Daddy's got that match in the bag!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/9/2010 3:22:40 PM | message detail

From: Lightslayer987 | #270
so you are telling me glados, kefka, issac, roxas, shepard, revan, and soap all have no issues with picture recognizability without a name?


How many of those characters have legitimate chances at winning?

Just Soap, from my count, and that's if he gets there.
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red sox 777 | Posted 2/9/2010 3:23:31 PM | message detail
Voters don't know who the characters are will probably be voting around 50-50 anyway.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 2/9/2010 3:25:58 PM | message detail
How many of those characters have legitimate chances at winning?

Just Soap, from my count, and that's if he gets there.


Squall over Revan you'll be regretting that one soon
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KamikazePotato | Posted 2/9/2010 3:28:32 PM | message detail

From: Karma Hunter | #252
Yuri's awesome, but all his appeal is pretty much intra-fanbase. He can't muster up a pic to look as badass as, say, Kratos' last match - and even that couldn't keep him in the game against Sackboy! I'm feeling Tifa takes him to town (but hopefully he can impress...).


Which is why I said 'close to Lloyd' instead of 'beats the pants off of Lloyd like he rightfully should'.

FFVI : Tales of Symphonia
Lloyd/Kratos : Ensemble Cast Guys

FFVIII : Tales of Vesperia
Squall : Yuri

And Jade and Luke are like...FFIII characters or something. TotA game sold horribly and not many people even like the cast.

Tales of Vesperia actually did pretty well for itself. It came during a time when the 360 was starved for RPGs, kind of like Symphonia with the Gamecube. It didn't sell as much as Symphonia or get quite as much press, but yeah. Everyone loves Yuri.

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Team Rocket Elite | Posted 2/9/2010 3:29:31 PM | message detail
He was like top 5 in the last Tales popularity poll iirc. Lemme see if I can find that poll..

You realize that popularity poll was on the Japanese website and the voters will primarily be from Japan, right? Symphonia character would do a lot better on an English site, especially if it's not a site that is specifically for Tales games.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 2/9/2010 3:31:12 PM | message detail
Symphonia character would do a lot better on an English site, especially if it's not a site that is specifically for Tales games.

At the time, Tales of Vesperia was only out for the Xbox 360 in Japan. And Yuri still got the top spot. That's pretty impressive in my eyes!

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ZFS | Posted 2/9/2010 3:33:53 PM | message detail
I don't know that I would even compare Vesperia to Symphonia. The latter was a lot more popular in the US than Vesperia ever was. ToS rocked it pretty hard in sales, too.

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charmander6000 | Posted 2/9/2010 3:34:57 PM | message detail
Yuri will probably be closer to Jade/Luke than Lloyd/Kratos IMO.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 2/9/2010 3:37:51 PM | message detail
If Vesperia had sold as much as Symphonia, Yuri would be a new low midcarder. Lloyd gets mixed feelings from people and Kratos isn't the main character. Yuri is the main character and easily the most popular character in his game by far; like I posted, it's basically how Squall dominate FF8.

And according to lol vgchartz, Vesperia sold 220k in the USA, 190k in Japan, 70k in Europe. Abyss didn't sell enough outside of Japan to be included. >_>

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KamikazePotato | Posted 2/9/2010 3:38:40 PM | message detail
And note I still think Yuri is weaker than Lloyd, but he'll should definitely be much closer to Lloyd/Kratos than Luke/jade.

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ZFS | Posted 2/9/2010 3:40:12 PM | message detail
Vesperia sold closer to 130k in the US, but yeah. I have no idea who Yuri is and how 'cool' he is or whatever, just that Vesperia definitely doesn't seem to be anywhere near as popular or widespread as ToS.

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Team Rocket Elite | Posted 2/9/2010 3:40:19 PM | message detail
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe if you only count US sales Symphonia outsold the second, third and fourth best selling Tales games combined. That's also not an etirely fair comparison since ToS:DotW was either the 2nd or 3rd best selling Tales game. It's either slightly ahead or slightly behind ToV in terms of sales.
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Lightslayer987 | Posted 2/9/2010 3:44:15 PM | message detail

From: ZFS | #282
Vesperia sold closer to 130k in the US, but yeah. I have no idea who Yuri is and how 'cool' he is or whatever, just that Vesperia definitely doesn't seem to be anywhere near as popular or widespread as ToS.


Still almost 5 times the sales of Abyss, so at the very least he's no Jade/Luke.
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Lightslayer987 | Posted 2/9/2010 3:47:36 PM | message detail
Heres the sales of Tales games (Worldwide)

Tales of Phantasia (SNES, PS, GBA, PSP) 1.22m
Tales of Destiny (PS, PS2) 1.2m
Tales of Symphonia (GC, PS2) 1.1m
Tales of Destiny 2 (PS2, PSP) 0.92m
Tales of Eternia (PS, PSP) 0.91m
Tales of Rebirth (PS2, PSP) 0.66m
Tales of Vesperia (Xbox360, PS3) 0.64m
Tales of Abyss (PS2) 0.57m
Tales of Innocence (DS) 0.26m
Tales of Hearts (DS) 0.25m
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KamikazePotato | Posted 2/9/2010 3:47:58 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3356

Tales of Vesperia doubled Lost Odyssey in this poll. Due to the fact that Kaim is boring and not nearly as liked within his fanbase as Yuri is, that should put Yuri at approximately 2.5 times the strength of Kaim Argonar. Which means...

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3256

He clobbers Frank West! We've got a contender, here, folks!

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charmander6000 | Posted 2/9/2010 3:50:38 PM | message detail
XD

Yuri can be a contender for the strongest non-ToS Tales character and still be on the wrong end of the biggest blowout of this contest.
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Japago | Posted 2/9/2010 3:51:17 PM | message detail
Ok, I was a bit worried about the name thing before. But, the 05 opening round had the names behind the characters and the character pic covering a lot, most you couldn't see enough to read it. So yeah, apparently, not a problem.

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 2/9/2010 3:51:37 PM | message detail
Speaking of the Tales series, I am very pleased Namco is set to lose hundreds of millions of dollars. Gamers catch on really fast if you're a company full of BS, and Namco pretty much acts like they hate their own fans.
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charmander6000 | Posted 2/9/2010 3:56:33 PM | message detail
Good thing Nintendo's printers are still working.

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Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 2/9/2010 3:57:19 PM | message detail
How can Tales games sell so low?And TOV even though it got remade for PS3 still sold so low?Man...
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voltch | Posted 2/9/2010 3:57:34 PM | message detail
what did they do that's worth losing a hundred million bucks(if they are even worth that)?

Apart from no ToV on PS3 abroad.
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Kotetsu534 | Posted 2/9/2010 4:03:25 PM | message detail
I might buy some Tales games if they were ever released in Europe! (Well, actually, I think Vesperia was, but I only own PS3/Wii and a huge RPG is a bit much to play at someone else's).

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Kotetsu534 | Posted 2/9/2010 4:04:47 PM | message detail
Hmm, actually, ToS was released on the GC in Europe. Never seen a copy though. TotA never saw release.

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MarioSuperstar | Posted 2/9/2010 4:33:44 PM | message detail
Wait.. so this Yuri person isn't a girl?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/9/2010 4:34:11 PM | message detail
No, Yuri Lowell is male!
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I've got to wonder why Bacon puts full names into pics sometimes and sometimes he doesn't. He felt compelled to put "Vincent Valentine" and "Guybrush Threepwood" into the banners in full, but apparently "Yuri Lowell" and "Tifa Lockhart" are too long.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 2/9/2010 4:36:09 PM | message detail
I am so confused.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 2/9/2010 4:38:02 PM | message detail
I've got to wonder why Bacon puts full names into pics sometimes and sometimes he doesn't. He felt compelled to put "Vincent Valentine" and "Guybrush Threepwood" into the banners in full, but apparently "Yuri Lowell" and "Tifa Lockhart" are too long.

I dunno. Laziness?
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charmander6000 | Posted 2/9/2010 4:38:28 PM | message detail
I am so confused.

Yeah I found Yuri to be cute too

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