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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 824

ff6man | Posted 2/8/2010 8:24:56 PM | message detail
I've been a part (albeit a smaller, lurking part) of these topics since the first contest and I've never made a topic. I've never been on the leaderboard until now either so I figured I'd man up and make a topic. :-P

~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~
www.gamefaqscontests.com

~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~
http://board8.wikia.com/

~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~
http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/
http://thengamer.com/xstats
http://thengamer.com/stats

~*Character Contest Histories (Thanks to Raven 2 for the info transfer)*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Contest_Histories

~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

~*All the match pics*~
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/index.php

~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages

~*Poll Start Times*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Character_Battle_8_Poll_Start_Times

~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~

SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them.

X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process.

Noble Nine - Link, Cloud, Sephiroth, Mario, Crono, Solid Snake, Sonic, Samus and Mega Man.

Near-Elite - The Squall, Auron, Tifa, Vincent, Zelda, Kirby, etc group that has come at, near or even ahead of Noble Nine characters in the past.

The Fodder Line - A final X-Stat value of 15% or below.

For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything.
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CB8 Score: 45/48 Today: Snake/Fox
LeonhartFour | Posted 2/8/2010 8:45:42 PM | message detail
I'm no hero. Never was, never will be.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 2/8/2010 8:46:19 PM | message detail
Someone who puts on shades in sunlight is just trying too hard to be cool. Snake just is.

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KrahenProphet lived up to his name.
Scott_Pilgrim | Posted 2/8/2010 8:47:21 PM | message detail
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_zIKKOjC7Q
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Oh, sorry, I got distracted by KrahenProphet.
http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=99
red sox 777 | Posted 2/8/2010 8:47:35 PM | message detail
If Link said those lines in Zelda Wii.......

Cloud with 65%
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6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....
LeonhartFour | Posted 2/8/2010 8:48:30 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #005
If Link said those lines in Zelda Wii.......

Cloud with 65%


Yep, Link ain't cool enough to pull that off!
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 2/8/2010 9:51:30 PM | message detail
yo
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 2/8/2010 9:51:57 PM | message detail
Emporer_Kazbar is contributor.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 2/8/2010 9:53:04 PM | message detail
Tag
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"Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia
LeonhartFour | Posted 2/8/2010 9:53:39 PM | message detail
Chart from yesterday's match:

Time | Dante | Axel | Votes
0:05 | 71.88% | 28.13% | 896
1:00 | 71.48% | 28.52% | 8178
2:00 | 72.03% | 27.97% | 7182
3:00 | 70.39% | 29.61% | 6742
4:00 | 68.81% | 31.19% | 7108
5:00 | 68.59% | 31.41% | 7102
6:00 | 67.79% | 32.21% | 6647
7:00 | 66.82% | 33.18% | 6191
8:00 | 69.13% | 30.87% | 5524
9:00 | 68.00% | 32.00% | 4937
10:00 | 68.20% | 31.80% | 4585
11:00 | 70.08% | 29.92% | 4094
12:00 | 70.19% | 29.81% | 3489

Sure enough, Axel got the famous Kingdom Hearts ASV, but it wasn't super effective (which could be bad news for Sora against Charizard!). He only had a few hours where he was really tearing things up.
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Agent M | Posted 2/8/2010 10:06:46 PM | message detail
This is pretty pathetic from Snake. All I know is Axel better not be > Protoman.

I know blowouts are non-existent this contest, but pretty sure nobody votes purely against Snake.

In Protoman's only other appearance, Zero did better than this. And don't even attribute it to SFF because Zero didn't falter against MM around that time.
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Oranejo | Posted 2/8/2010 10:14:14 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #003
Someone who puts on shades in sunlight is just trying too hard to be cool. Snake just is.


http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/1223/protodouble.png

What about someone who puts on two pairs of shades?
HaRRicH | Posted 2/8/2010 10:55:03 PM | message detail
Well, since it's slow, I'd like to bring up that -- if you count four-ways -- Sephiroth beating Marth will be the Noble Nine's 300th victory over a non-Noble Niner. Also, assuming Missingno doesn't pull the impossible, Crono advancing will give the Noble Nine their 125th victory in a row over a non-Noble Niner in a one-on-one scenario.

Let's cherish that latter one while we still can...!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/8/2010 10:55:57 PM | message detail
We'll cherish it forever!

Noble Nine for life!
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HaRRicH | Posted 2/8/2010 10:58:52 PM | message detail
Also, though I get we likely can't fairly compare the Noble Nine's performances, I'd still like to play the ever-fun game of Rank The Characters -- Noble Nine's Opponents In R1-edition!

Thrall
Lightning
Falco
Cid
Prince of Persia
Ridley
Protoman
Marth
Missingno
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Meeks54 | Posted 2/8/2010 11:00:53 PM | message detail

From: Agent M | #011
This is pretty pathetic from Snake. All I know is Axel better not be > Protoman.

I know blowouts are non-existent this contest, but pretty sure nobody votes purely against Snake.

In Protoman's only other appearance, Zero did better than this. And don't even attribute it to SFF because Zero didn't falter against MM around that time.


I am offended by this post.

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yoshifan823 | Posted 2/8/2010 11:01:34 PM | message detail
Missingno
Ridley
Lightning (sigh)
Cid
Protoman
Marth
Cid
Thrall
Prince of Persia
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Draco1214 | Posted 2/8/2010 11:05:21 PM | message detail
Cid
Missigno
Falco
Ridley
Lightning
Marth
Proto Man
Thrall
Prince of Persia
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 2/8/2010 11:07:09 PM | message detail
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2010/02/bombershock.jpg
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Iamthekuzalol | Posted 2/8/2010 11:16:31 PM | message detail
Missingno
Cid
Protoman
Lightning
Falco
Marth
Ridley
Thrall
Prince of Persia
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Snake's Mission "To make it to the finals for the fourth consecutive times"
Iamthekuzalol | Posted 2/8/2010 11:34:35 PM | message detail
If Snake can somehow push it to 72+%, i think it is actually an acceptable performance. Cloud could only score 71+% on Ridley and i honestly believe that Proto/Ridley are relatively close in strength.
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Snake's Mission "To make it to the finals for the fourth consecutive times"
redrocket | Posted 2/9/2010 1:02:28 AM | message detail
Breaking 70% is easily acceptable. I have no idea why people are still expecting massive blowouts against non-turbofodder characters at this point.

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ShatteredElysium | Posted 2/9/2010 1:05:56 AM | message detail
It looks like he'll easily do 70% anyway. 72% is possible from this point.
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nintendogirl1 | Posted 2/9/2010 1:28:58 AM | message detail
BioShock 2 GET!
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Kotetsu534 | Posted 2/9/2010 1:29:19 AM | message detail
Heh, Snake pushing for 85% in the UK.

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zodac_spear | Posted 2/9/2010 2:43:12 AM | message detail
why do more people have 0 points than all brackers picked correctly
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voltch | Posted 2/9/2010 2:47:44 AM | message detail
snake is weaksauce!
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XIII_rocks | Posted 2/9/2010 3:29:52 AM | message detail
I didn't think this was very good from Snake when I first saw it earlier, but now you lot mention it, there haven't been many proper blowouts thus far so I'll see what Sephiroth does to Marth before I come to any conclusions.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/9/2010 4:01:36 AM | message detail

From: Meeks54 | #016
I am offended by this post.


You don't count.
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Lightslayer987 | Posted 2/9/2010 4:07:06 AM | message detail
Only someone like MWC can anti vote Snake.
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voltch | Posted 2/9/2010 4:11:22 AM | message detail
I thought he was dead, Icehawk's podcast said soooo!
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 2/9/2010 4:48:14 AM | message detail
Snake (2004c) has a strength of 33.05 against Base Link.
Protoman (2004c) has a strength of 19.21 against Base Link.

Snake wins with 70.94% of the vote!
A 35,928 vote margin of victory.

Consider that this Snake is a good deal stronger while this Protoman is a good deal weaker, and that suggests that Protoman was a mid micarder in '04, before the Mega Man series' fall from grace.
ZenOfThunder | Posted 2/9/2010 7:09:54 AM | message detail
You guys wanted a bad pic of Mega Man, right?

http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/7048/mariovsmegaman.png

There ya go. I'll do Captain N pics for him later on too.
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charmander6000 | Posted 2/9/2010 7:15:57 AM | message detail
Match L: (8) Lloyd Irving vs. (9) Fox McCloud

Information

Name: Lloyd Irving
Game/Series: Tales of Symphonia
Previous Contest: 2008
Performance: 3rd in round 1

Name: Fox McCloud
Game/Series: Star Fox
Previous Contest: 2008
Performance: 4th in round 1

Analysis

Not even the biggest Tales of Symphonia fan could make an argument for Lloyd to win this match. I know a lot of people were bashing Tales characters during Kratos Aurion’s loss, but there are a lot more characters that need to be removed before reaching these two guys. Of course should one miss out it won’t be a huge loss either. Fox on the other hand has one of the more boring routes in this contest, win round 1 lose round 2.

Despite having the only win from the Tales crew Lloyd isn’t that strong. Some people may overrate his weakness, but he won’t be defeating anyone of note. Based on his performances in previous contests the guy should be ranked at around high fodder. Despite what some people have called I don’t believe that Tales of Symphonia has taken another hit based on Kratos Aurion’s performance.

After missing for so many years Fox made his return in four-ways and crushed lower ranked Nintendo characters as predicted before being crushed by Mario himself. His 2008 performance was a bit more notable as his performance shows that he has strength of a mid-card. He was even able to hold well against Yoshi. Even though the only decent information on Fox is in four-ways I don’t see him deviating from that strength.

Fox will get to show off his strength in this match. There is the possibility for SFF to occur since Tales of Symphonia was Gamecube only, but it shouldn’t be any more than a couple of percent. Even if Fox decides to choke hard in this match it would be near impossible for him to lose without a notable site shift occurring during the process.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Fox McCloud > Lloyd Irving

charmander6000’s Prediction: Fox wins, 64.12% - 35.88%

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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/9/2010 7:16:54 AM | message detail
Hoping for an unexpectedly close match here!
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ZFS | Posted 2/9/2010 7:20:21 AM | message detail
need to skip this next match tbqh

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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/9/2010 7:20:52 AM | message detail
Well, I'm looking forward to Pikachu/Banjo and Shepard/Ellis as much as the next guy, but uhhh....
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Agent M | Posted 2/9/2010 7:30:46 AM | message detail
Bring on round 2. Most of the remaining semi-debatable matches are of characters I don't know much about.

Terra/Revan, Crono/Missingno, Peach/Freeman (hey it could be close)

That's pretty much whats left for me. Unless Zero decides to Magus-ify himself against Marcus Fenix.

And Soap will cost me if he wins.

Also, anyone that anti-votes Snake deserves to be offended for making a poor decision!
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KamikazePotato | Posted 2/9/2010 7:31:13 AM | message detail
Looks like Snake hit 72% and made this normal after all.

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The n00b Avenger | Posted 2/9/2010 7:32:26 AM | message detail
Protoman vs Ridley?

SNAKE > CLOUD HERE WE COME
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KamikazePotato | Posted 2/9/2010 7:33:02 AM | message detail
Also,

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3770
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3778
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3693

Snake vs.Cloud who ya got

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Agent M | Posted 2/9/2010 7:38:38 AM | message detail
Kain should have made it :/ I think he'd fare better than Cecil.

Ridley looked way too good in that match, cause I never would have expected Diablo to even get that high.

Ridley vs Diablo rematch for 2011.


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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 2/9/2010 7:42:58 AM | message detail
Name: Fox McCloud
Game/Series: Star Fox
Previous Contest: 2008
Performance: 4th in round 1


Round 2 actually.
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LOLContests | Posted 2/9/2010 7:46:13 AM | message detail
People are underestimating how well Thrall and Ridley really did. I don't think that I've ever seen anti-voting to the extent that we saw it in those two matches. Link probably would have ended up doing better, and Cloud may have to to an extent, but it's still a pretty bad performance of them. Certainly enough for Snake to take advantage of against Sephiroth, especially if Sephy's at 2004 levels.
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Denzokuken | Posted 2/9/2010 7:46:59 AM | message detail
Vote totals are pretty horrid here, even for a night match. That doesn't suggest Snake is pulling in the voters...I didn't know that stats topic regulars put such faith in elite v fodder matches either. I thought it was accepted they meant very little.
The best evidence we have for Snake/Cloud is Snake's last legitimate match, where he just barely got 43% (lol) on Cloud, and that was his best year. Yeah, even with increased antivotes there's still absolutely nothing to suggest he can touch Sephiroth right now.
ExThaNemesis | Posted 2/9/2010 7:48:15 AM | message detail
especially after Sephiroth out-does this against Marth.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 2/9/2010 7:52:36 AM | message detail

From: Denzokuken | #045
Vote totals are pretty horrid here


Not really. It's better than Samus's match at least
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LOLContests | Posted 2/9/2010 7:52:42 AM | message detail
especially after Sephiroth out-does this against Marth.

If Sephiroth gets 75%, that would be enough for me to put faith in him, since it means that he's either not getting anti-voted, or he's popular enough to sustain a Snake rally.

I like Sephy too; I'm not coming to this from a personal point of view, but I think people are underestimating how childish and hypocritical voters can be.
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charmander6000 | Posted 2/9/2010 8:02:06 AM | message detail
Vote totals are pretty horrid here, even for a night match.

It's about average.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/9/2010 8:26:42 AM | message detail
This match should break 50,000 votes, which is about the average mark for a night match.
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