GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 823
KamikazePotato | Posted 2/8/2010 1:44:30 PM | message detail |
I
do, however, disagree that he's become some super elite character and
that Ryu is going to get stomped into the ground. I'm probably alone on
this now, but I still think Ryu's got a good shot to win. Even if he
doesn't, though, I don't see Dante winning by more than 53% or so, to
pull a random number out of nowhere. Didn't everyone say the same thing about Ryu/Bowser? --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
ZFS | Posted 2/8/2010 1:45:45 PM | message detail |
I have no idea, I can't remember that far back when it comes to contests anymore. --- wheresoever you go, go with all your heart |
red sox 777 | Posted 2/8/2010 1:47:00 PM | message detail |
Don't
think Ryu's going to get stomped too badly either. I've been adamantly
behind Dante the whole time, but Dante isn't at Crono or Auron's level. --- 6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno 'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared.... |
Zylo the wolf | Posted 2/8/2010 1:50:00 PM | message detail |
IMO
these two matches didn't tell us anything about how Ryu VS Dante will
be, since both characters looked great. I still think that Ryu takes
it, but anything can happen. --- Ngamer64: Zylo, you're making less sense every day. KrahenProfit > Me |
KamikazePotato | Posted 2/8/2010 1:50:28 PM | message detail |
There...is such a thing as direct comparisons, Zylo. --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
ZenOfThunder | Posted 2/8/2010 1:56:44 PM | message detail |
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1350 Ryu hasn't boosted, Dante has. Plus all the God of War/DMC clones are coming out now so that'll give a nice action gamer boost for a bit. Dante's got this. He's freaking Dante. LOOK AT THE SMEXINESS. --- (|| ' ' ||) Not changing my sig until EBA2/Ouendan 3 is announced. (4/22/08) . /|_|\ http://imgcake.com/img/40/all_eba.jpg |
voltch | Posted 2/8/2010 1:56:52 PM | message detail |
High
tier capcom vs high tier nintendo/Square matches are always fun, but
this contest wastes that potential by having the trinity together. --- Shakes Fist! |
ajmrowland | Posted 2/8/2010 1:57:11 PM | message detail |
Psh, Axel popularity was just a fad anyway. Was? He's still very popular among the fanbase. He's a cool guy honestly, and the Hair is really.......well, out there, but in a cool way. Plus, Quinton Flynn's voice practically injects extra coolness into the character. That's the last Ill be talking of him for now. |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 2/8/2010 1:58:02 PM | message detail |
From: ZFS | #199 I think Ryu has a shot, although not as good as I thought five hours ago when I was thinking it was 50/50 going in. I definitely agree that people are overrating Dante here. Beating Mega Man? Heck, even beating Sonic? I know they're not untouchable, but the N9 still hasn't lost to an outsider 1v1 style. Maybe we should wait until they actually lose before hyping guys who have never come close to a Noble Niner before. --- Yoblazer: http://i38.tinypic.com/2s024p4.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
Zylo the wolf | Posted 2/8/2010 2:15:50 PM | message detail |
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1350 Ryu hasn't boosted, Dante has. Plus all the God of War/DMC clones are coming out now so that'll give a nice action gamer boost for a bit. Dante's got this. He's freaking Dante. LOOK AT THE SMEXINESS. Yeah right SFIV didn't do a thing. Pfff Ryu is much manlier than that pretty-boy Dante, real men use their body as a weapon! --- Ngamer64: Zylo, you're making less sense every day. KrahenProfit > Me |
KamikazePotato | Posted 2/8/2010 2:17:50 PM | message detail |
*looks at Ken* SFIV did something? --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
The n00b Avenger | Posted 2/8/2010 2:19:17 PM | message detail |
Hey, I'll have you know that SFIV managed to tie Persona 4. PERSONA 4, MAN. --- A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice. |
ZFS | Posted 2/8/2010 2:19:28 PM | message detail |
Chris and Jill would say yes! --- wheresoever you go, go with all your heart |
KamikazePotato | Posted 2/8/2010 2:19:56 PM | message detail |
I don't care how badass he was in RE5. Albert freaking Wesker, man. --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
Zylo the wolf | Posted 2/8/2010 2:21:36 PM | message detail |
We
haven't seen Ken since 2003, and if you look at Jill and Chris Resident
Evil 5 seemed to give them a big boost, so why wouldn't Wesker be above
fodderline now? Ken can both be stronger or weaker than in 2003. --- Ngamer64: Zylo, you're making less sense every day. KrahenProfit > Me |
DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 2/8/2010 2:21:44 PM | message detail |
From: The n00b Avenger | #172 We're not talking about a sense of humour and fun though. Some people are actually using the "choke" argument as to why Dante will lose next round since most recent stats point in Dante's favour. Even in his "choke" loss to Yoshi, he still had his best x-stat result ever. I have no problem with humour in these topics, just that if we're actually debating something, bringing in a choke argument is stupid. --- CBVIII: 43/47 -43 pts, tied for 57th- L:Ocelot,Liquid,Phoenix,Kratos Day Pick: Dante Night Pick: Snake |
ZFS | Posted 2/8/2010 2:22:13 PM | message detail |
You mean millions of people got to see what only a choice few before knew about Wesker? Sounds like a boost is ruled out ! --- wheresoever you go, go with all your heart |
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 2/8/2010 2:22:43 PM | message detail |
Chris,
Leon and Jill all impressed last year and Wesker still stunk up the
joint, so I'm a bit hesitant to say Wesker is basking in the RE boost
glory this year. --- If you're seeing this sig, I'm not on my computer! |
ZFS | Posted 2/8/2010 2:25:31 PM | message detail |
Chris
impressed last year? I don't remember that. And I don't think Jill was
the impressive part of last year so much as it was Ocelot sucked it up
again. --- wheresoever you go, go with all your heart |
Kotetsu534 | Posted 2/8/2010 2:28:28 PM | message detail |
I think Dante will ease past Ryu. I buy Axel > Balthier, and would probably have backed Dante even if he scored ~65 today. --- Currently Playing: Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney, Ocarina of Time, Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn |
LeonhartFour | Posted 2/8/2010 2:31:31 PM | message detail |
Chris impressed last year? I don't remember that. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3264 Getting like 42% on Fox was a heck of a lot more impressive than losing to Pyramid Head at least. But Wesker/Ken is something indefinite right now. People saying Chris and Jill prove an RE5 boost...Chris beat Macmillan by less than the 2008 stats said he would (as little as that's worth), and Jill/Niko just reeks of an overperformance. That's far more than Jill should have gotten on him, and something doesn't feel right about it without getting into the realm of a ridiculously big boost. I feel the same about that match as I do about this one: Impressive, but not entirely legitimate in one way or another. I'll cut Wesker a little bit of slack though and say maybe Snake LFF'd him or something since he seems to LFF anyone who even reeks slightly of the bad boy mold. --- "I couldn't stand a day without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now." |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 2/8/2010 2:32:58 PM | message detail |
I'm
not sure what's even being argued here. Every Ryu supporter has clearly
stated Dante should be the favorite. Are Dante backers trying to argue
that he's an absolute lock against Ryu, that he's a Noble Nine threat,
or what? --- Yoblazer: http://i33.tinypic.com/ml36gl_th.gif Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
red sox 777 | Posted 2/8/2010 2:34:05 PM | message detail |
That's
far more than Jill should have gotten on him, and something doesn't
feel right about it without getting into the realm of a ridiculously
big boost. I feel the same about that match as I do about this one:
Impressive, but not entirely legitimate in one way or another. I don't think it should ever be worse for a character to get a higher percentage on another. You could have a case that 68% or whatever Jill got isn't much more impressive than 65% or something, but a higher percentage isn't going to look worse, ever. --- 6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno 'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared.... |
LeonhartFour | Posted 2/8/2010 2:34:07 PM | message detail |
No,
if anything, I've been trying to downplay the significance of this
performance by Dante. I still think he wins, but he's not some
world-beater now. --- "I can set you free, mate." "My freedom was forfeit long ago!" |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 2/8/2010 2:34:16 PM | message detail |
From: LeonhartFour | #221 Of course it doesn't when you had a "bad feeling" that Niko would win! --- Yoblazer: http://i43.tinypic.com/25z1non.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
ZFS | Posted 2/8/2010 2:34:37 PM | message detail |
I
guess. 42% on Fox doesn't strike me as particularly impressive, but I
won't bother arguing. I don't know much of an RE5 boost there is, but
it would make sense for there to be one, especially with Wesker. He had
the sort of role that takes characters like him to the next level,
though whether or not it did is something we'll have to see next round.
--- wheresoever you go, go with all your heart |
Lightslayer987 | Posted 2/8/2010 2:35:22 PM | message detail |
From: PartOfYourWorld | #222 except turtle, but since when did he look at things logically? --- http://i48.tinypic.com/2wmghtl.jpg Albion Hero is the Cream of Loli Fanboyism |
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 2/8/2010 2:35:30 PM | message detail |
It's impressive when the dude lost to Pyramid Head the year before. give it up HM, SF sux --- If you're seeing this sig, I'm not on my computer! |
ZFS | Posted 2/8/2010 2:36:46 PM | message detail |
Man, I just noticed that was in September 2007. Did RE5 even have a trailer in 2007? --- wheresoever you go, go with all your heart |
LeonhartFour | Posted 2/8/2010 2:37:25 PM | message detail |
I
don't think it should ever be worse for a character to get a higher
percentage on another. You could have a case that 68% or whatever Jill
got isn't much more impressive than 65% or something, but a higher
percentage isn't going to look worse, ever. I'm not entirely sure what you're trying to say with this. I never said it was a bad thing for Jill to go that high, but it just feels like she overperformed. Unless Niko just turned out to be really bad fodder (and while Duke would seem to indicate the possibility, Kefka messes that little theory up), Jill shouldn't have gotten that much on him. I can't see RE5 moving her from someone who may beat Ocelot one year and lose to him the next to suddenly "Can she beat Leon Kennedy?" territory. Maybe I'm underestimating her, but I don't see that happening. --- "I couldn't stand a day without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now." |
LeonhartFour | Posted 2/8/2010 2:38:11 PM | message detail |
From: ZFS | #229 Nope, Chris had a picture that made him look like a generic nobody, too. No surprise he lost! --- "The great GF...Bahamut." "...GF? I...? Using my powers...It is you humans...I fear..." |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 2/8/2010 2:38:24 PM | message detail |
I
don't want to delve too deeply into this, but it's really easy to argue
Chris/Jill benefiting more from RE5 hype (it was easily 2009's most
hyped game until the last few months of the year). Chris had the
redesign and cool footage, and Jill had all the mystery surrounding her
"death." Wesker wasn't as big a part of the hype, but then the game
came out and he made his presence felt. As Karma said, it was the first
game in which Wesker was actually the main villain; the last part of
the game was completely devoted to him. --- Yoblazer: http://i43.tinypic.com/25z1non.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
ZFS | Posted 2/8/2010 2:40:08 PM | message detail |
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/cb6/cb6-07.jpg pyramid head loss revoked no one even knows who that is --- wheresoever you go, go with all your heart |
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 2/8/2010 2:41:05 PM | message detail |
Yeah,
but unless Axel dropped, Dante shouldn't be outperforming Mega Man
here. Axel has basically every reason to be as strong (if not stronger)
than his 2006 performance, thanks to 358/2 Days, and Dante has no
reason to be stronger than 2006 Mega Man all of a sudden. Something
weird's happening here. 2006 will probably be the strongest we'll ever see Axel. That contest was a couple of months after KH2. Nothing barring KH3 not sucking will help Axel much. And given Roxas' bomb-job against Heavy, it seems as though 31512/52 days or whatever hasn't helped them at all. Shame, since I have Roxas > Subby next round. --- http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/020/b/f/Ariel_by_lolita_art.jpg |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 2/8/2010 2:41:10 PM | message detail |
*proud member of the I Voted for Pyramid Head club* --- Yoblazer: http://i33.tinypic.com/ml36gl_th.gif Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
LeonhartFour | Posted 2/8/2010 2:41:47 PM | message detail |
From: PartOfYourWorld | #225 Eh, that's got little to do with it. Duke, Kefka, and Marth are all around Jill's level (not that they necessarily beat her, but they could be within 55/45 of her, 60/40 at absolute best), and Niko finished ahead of Kefka but behind Duke and Marth. I can't see Jill Valentine doubling any of these other three guys. She's never shown the possibility of being that strong, not even close, and I don't see RE5 putting her up there. Either Niko dropped off the face of the planet (with GTA, that's always a distinct possibility) or Jill just overperformed. --- "Spoil it for me. I'm never going to play that game so I want to know if he's going to be another Auron or another Sin." - Soul about Jecht vs. PW |
ZFS | Posted 2/8/2010 2:41:59 PM | message detail |
Yeah,
yo makes the point I was going to make about Wesker. He was never
really prominent and apart of the RE5 trailer hype from what I
remember. Here is post-RE5 Wesker -- http://i44.tinypic.com/wgxhn5.gif ! --- wheresoever you go, go with all your heart |
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 2/8/2010 2:42:45 PM | message detail |
voltch Posted 2/8/2010 4:56:52 PM message detail High tier capcom vs high tier nintendo/Square matches are always fun, but this contest wastes that potential by having the trinity together. Once again, Zero > Auron baybee! --- http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/020/b/f/Ariel_by_lolita_art.jpg |
red sox 777 | Posted 2/8/2010 2:45:14 PM | message detail |
I'm
not entirely sure what you're trying to say with this. I never said it
was a bad thing for Jill to go that high, but it just feels like she
overperformed. Unless Niko just turned out to be really bad fodder (and
while Duke would seem to indicate the possibility, Kefka messes that
little theory up), Jill shouldn't have gotten that much on him. I can't
see RE5 moving her from someone who may beat Ocelot one year and lose
to him the next to suddenly "Can she beat Leon Kennedy?" territory.
Maybe I'm underestimating her, but I don't see that happening. Okay, it just sounded like you were saying that it was probably an overperformance, so we should ignore the match. I hate to go back to Liquid/Altair again, but I got the same sense in that match- that if Altair had gotten say 55% people would have considered the implications, but since he got 59% people just went "lol Liquid" and dismissed it out of hand. And I really don't like calling a match an anomaly unless there's a good reason for it (like the picture, a new game being released, etc.). The result simply being out of line with expectations doesn't make the match an anomaly, it means something was wrong with the expectations (for example a major boost was underestimated). --- 6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno 'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared.... |
LeonhartFour | Posted 2/8/2010 2:57:32 PM | message detail |
The
result simply being out of line with expectations doesn't make the
match an anomaly, it means something was wrong with the expectations
(for example a major boost was underestimated). Maybe so, but I wouldn't chalk all of that performance up to Jill getting an RE5 boost because it implies a bigger boost than I'd be comfortable giving her. If Wesker got anywhere near that level of a boost, he should've beaten Ken easily. --- "Hold on a minute! That testimony stinks!" "Witness! You can't just say 'Hello' and expect us to get anywhere! I want you to testify!" |
LeonhartFour | Posted 2/8/2010 2:57:55 PM | message detail |
Oh, and 30% get for Axel. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
MarioSuperstar | Posted 2/8/2010 3:00:49 PM | message detail |
I
never really bought an RE boost at all. Only best case I can see is
maybe Wesker. Jill's performance was great but GTA IV fell fast as
bricks. Redfield did as well as I expected and Leon is a question mark. --- *is Dranze* Krahen Prophet did a fatality. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 2/8/2010 3:01:23 PM | message detail |
But
really, the main thing I'm trying to say about all this is that we
shouldn't overreact to what seems to be an overperformance. If Jill
goes out there and breaks 40% on Samus (and I hope she does), great. If
Altair goes out there and whips Vivi, fine. I'm just advocating not
rushing to judgment because our expectations got shattered. We've
gotten burned on that front on more than one occasion the next round! --- "Hold on a minute! That testimony stinks!" "Witness! You can't just say 'Hello' and expect us to get anywhere! I want you to testify!" |
ZFS | Posted 2/8/2010 3:01:38 PM | message detail |
I
don't know that you can really say that when there's no real way of
knowing where Ken would even be at. He hasn't been in a contest in over
seven years, and just came off of SFIV to get him back into the
contest. Not that I necessarily think that Wesker and Ken have both
gone above and beyond, but that's one match where it's hard to say
where either of them are at. --- wheresoever you go, go with all your heart |
Pyramid Head | Posted 2/8/2010 3:01:56 PM | message detail |
From: ZFS | Posted: 2/8/2010 5:40:08 PM | #233 go away --- Pyramid Head In my restless dreams, I see that town. Silent Hill... |
KamikazePotato | Posted 2/8/2010 3:02:35 PM | message detail |
New pics. http://www.gamefaqs.com/images/cb8/cb8-49.jpg http://www.gamefaqs.com/images/cb8/cb8-50.jpg My Lloyd! --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
ZFS | Posted 2/8/2010 3:03:18 PM | message detail |
Chose my Snake pic. Good deal! --- wheresoever you go, go with all your heart |
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 2/8/2010 3:04:04 PM | message detail |
I
never really bought an RE boost at all. Only best case I can see is
maybe Wesker. Jill's performance was great but GTA IV fell fast as
bricks. Redfield did as well as I expected and Leon is a question mark. Except GTA4 had very well received expansions. Most people thought it would be a close match, and some even took Niko. The fact that she won THAT soundly is pretty damn clear that she boosted through the roof, and Wesker going even with Ken after a history of sucking in these things only supports that. 6 year absense or not, you can only realistically put Ken so low. --- http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/020/b/f/Ariel_by_lolita_art.jpg |
LeonhartFour | Posted 2/8/2010 3:04:18 PM | message detail |
From: Pyramid Head | #245 I think he's talking about Chris in that picture, not Pyramid Head. --- "I couldn't stand a day without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now." |
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 2/8/2010 3:04:58 PM | message detail |
Proto Man lookin BADASS. 35%+ is what I'm thinking --- http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/020/b/f/Ariel_by_lolita_art.jpg |
