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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 822

LeonhartFour | Posted 2/7/2010 10:56:27 PM | message detail
FFXII wasn't that good, but Balthier is awesome. I'd totally play through the game again just for Balthier.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 2/7/2010 10:56:58 PM | message detail
In a twist, I loved FFXII and don't care about Balthier whatsoever!

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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/7/2010 10:57:22 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #402
In a twist, I loved FFXII and don't care about Balthier whatsoever!


A twist of tragically bad taste, maybe!
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 2/7/2010 10:58:06 PM | message detail
I'm considering replaying FFXII and giving it a second chance, as last time I quit halfway through because I hated it so much.

Good idea? Bad idea?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/7/2010 10:58:45 PM | message detail

From: ZenOfThunder | #404
I'm considering replaying FFXII and giving it a second chance, as last time I quit halfway through because I hated it so much.

Good idea? Bad idea?


Depends. Why did you hate it?
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 2/7/2010 10:58:55 PM | message detail
I don't think anybody has ever finished FFXII. And if they say they did, they're lying.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 2/7/2010 10:59:46 PM | message detail
I played FFXII twice! The second time I only used Vaan!

*cough*

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paraboxx | Posted 2/7/2010 11:00:28 PM | message detail
But like... FFXII sucked. It's not surprising that it's weaksauce.

Not everyone thought so. It's a polarizing game, but it has its fans. Even here at Gamefaqs it's the #1 PS2 game right now. You'd think that would translate to at least one of its characters, like it did for Squall in FF8.

...then again, Squall also has Kingdom Hearts.

Balthier for KH3?
ZenOfThunder | Posted 2/7/2010 11:01:16 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #405
Depends. Why did you hate it?


Gameplay was atrocious, the story was boring and the characters were all unappealing. I seriously can't even remember what the story was at all. Not a SINGLE DETAIL.

And I didn't just hate the gameplay because it was different, I hated it because it was bad. Ugh, if I wanted to play an MMO, I'd play an MMO, not that stripped down piece of crap.

But I'm willing to give it a second chance! Does it ever get better...?
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KamikazePotato | Posted 2/7/2010 11:03:11 PM | message detail
FFXII gets worse as it goes along, if anything. The beginning of the game had some plot, the rest of the game...doesn't.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/7/2010 11:04:12 PM | message detail

From: ZenOfThunder | #409
Gameplay was atrocious, the story was boring and the characters were all unappealing. I seriously can't even remember what the story was at all. Not a SINGLE DETAIL.

And I didn't just hate the gameplay because it was different, I hated it because it was bad. Ugh, if I wanted to play an MMO, I'd play an MMO, not that stripped down piece of crap.

But I'm willing to give it a second chance! Does it ever get better...?


Gameplay is the same throughout, so yeah, if you don't like it by now, you probably never will. The story never really picks up so if you don't like it halfway through, you'll probably never like it. Same with the characters. If you don't like them at that point, you probably won't end up liking them.

I wasn't a big fan of the gameplay myself for the same reasons. MMOs no thanks. The story is one of the weakest in the series. I did like the characters for the most part though. Balthier, Ashe, and Basch are all good characters.

Best Cid in the series, too!
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 2/7/2010 11:05:00 PM | message detail
Guess I won't bother, then. I'm honestly trying really hard to remember a single plot detail, but I can't. I don't even remember anything beyond Balthier and Fran being sky pirates or something. I don't remember who Ashe, Basche, Penelo or even Vaan are at all. Not a single detail beyond name and appearance. They're that bland.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 2/7/2010 11:06:47 PM | message detail
Penelo and Vaan have no details to remember, so that's not so bad.

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ZenOfThunder | Posted 2/7/2010 11:09:00 PM | message detail
Nice to know I'm not missing much... I feel like I wasted money on the game, though!!
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paraboxx | Posted 2/7/2010 11:09:01 PM | message detail
The story definitely picks up IMO. It shifts focus from political "intrigue" to Cid and the Occuria, who are one-dimensional but still pretty interesting. Gameplay picks up if you like gambits - you get more, and you get more freedom to go with it. Characters...I dunno. There are some badass NPCs late in the game, but of the main party only Ashe and Fran really develop at all.

I'd give it another go, but only if your backlog's running low.
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 2/7/2010 11:09:49 PM | message detail
I kept hearing the battle system was similar to KotOR's, so I was naturally intrigued. I played for 30-45 minutes, put it aside because I got Mario Galaxy, and I haven't touched it yet. It just didn't seem for me.

Honestly, how spoiled am I with X and VII being my first two FF games? Aren't these right up there with VI as the best in the series?
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KamikazePotato | Posted 2/7/2010 11:10:58 PM | message detail
IX, X, VIII, and Tactics are easily the best in the series.

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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 2/7/2010 11:11:49 PM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #416
I kept hearing the battle system was similar to KotOR's, so I was naturally intrigued. I played for 30-45 minutes, put it aside because I got Mario Galaxy, and I haven't touched it yet. It just didn't seem for me.

Honestly, how spoiled am I with X and VII being my first two FF games? Aren't these right up there with VI as the best in the series?




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Lieutenant Kettch | Posted 2/7/2010 11:12:40 PM | message detail
I didn't enjoy FFXII, purely because it felt like half a game. When I was reaching the end I was expecting a whole new country to explore, and then it just ends all of a sudden.
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Kotetsu534 | Posted 2/7/2010 11:13:15 PM | message detail
I think IX is up there with those two. Main thing that holds it back is an extremely slow battle system (and I played the slower PAL version too... yeah), and no "no encounters" ability to get round it. Plot/characters/sidequests/atmosphere/music/skill system were all thoroughly enjoyable. Can be quite touching at times too! VII, IX and X are my three clear favourites, followed by VI and VIII.

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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 2/7/2010 11:14:20 PM | message detail
Wait, X is one of your favorites, but you're complaining about slow battle systems?

DOES NOT COMPUTE
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paraboxx | Posted 2/7/2010 11:15:46 PM | message detail
Wait, X is one of your favorites, but you're complaining about slow battle systems?

DOES NOT COMPUTE


IX is also one of his favorites, so apparently he's not complaining too much!

X = best battle system in the series btw
Kotetsu534 | Posted 2/7/2010 11:22:50 PM | message detail
When I said "slow" I'm less meaning "animations" (which, other than Summons, none are very long in FFX) and more "why does the camera insist on spending 20+ seconds panning around before every fight?" (happens in FFIX). I had FFX in earlier, and battles are over and done much quicker than in FFIX.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/7/2010 11:29:39 PM | message detail
but of the main party only Ashe and Fran really develop at all.

...Fran? Did I miss something with her? I mean, she's got Eruyt Village, but that's it.

And FFX's battle system is slow? Since when?
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Achromatic | Posted 2/7/2010 11:30:53 PM | message detail
...

As a person who is playing X atm, it is lightning fast.
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paraboxx | Posted 2/7/2010 11:55:24 PM | message detail
Nope, that's pretty much what I'm talking about.
It's more than Vaan, Penelo, Balthier and even Basch can say, though.

Heh, and here I'm wondering if any other FFXII characters would do well.
UltimaterializerX | Posted 2/7/2010 11:55:50 PM | message detail
FF12 arguments, ew. Stop that.

So I've been going through every contest, trying to make a list of the best matches. I'm up to Fall 2007 (the first fourway, no seed contest), first round. I came across a very interesting match.

Auron
Chris Redfield
Pyramid Head
Shadow the Hedgehog

It was Auron > Shadow in 2007. Everyone here would pick Auron > Chris now, right?
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 2/7/2010 11:57:26 PM | message detail

From: paraboxx | Posted: 2/8/2010 2:55:24 AM | #426
Nope, that's pretty much what I'm talking about.
It's more than Vaan, Penelo, Balthier and even Basch can say, though.

Heh, and here I'm wondering if any other FFXII characters would do well.


Balthier is the one thing from that game everyone likes. Check the current poll results. This isn't like FF6 where we all know Shadow would be the strongest character if he ever made the field. FF12 has no characters who would do well.
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ToadYoshi | Posted 2/7/2010 11:58:00 PM | message detail
I'm going to agree with those who say this is good for the Ryu>Dante pickers. As someone who is doing well in the guru and has Dante > Ryu in the guru, this worries me. Dante had better impress tomorrow...

Of course, Charizard > Kratos is going to sink me once and for all <_<
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paraboxx | Posted 2/8/2010 12:02:45 AM | message detail
That's what I was asking earlier, though. What if it's different at Gamefaqs for some reason? What if Ashe, Basch or even Fran could do better than this? I just couldn't believe that the best character from a post-SNES FF game is only worth 30% on Ryu. At this point, though, I'm starting to understand why.

As for Auron/Chris/Pyramid/Shadow, I'd pick Auron/Chris today, but I'd still be iffy. It's not like it's Leon or anything.
Fayt_Esteed | Posted 2/8/2010 12:28:57 AM | message detail
The next debated match is Revan/Terra... Though that'll likely end up on the list of hyped matches that failed to deliver, just like Sackboy/Kratos A.
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paulg235 | Posted 2/8/2010 12:33:24 AM | message detail

From: UltimaterializerX | #427
Auron
Chris Redfield
Pyramid Head
Shadow the Hedgehog

It was Auron > Shadow in 2007. Everyone here would pick Auron > Chris now, right?


It depends on how Chris performs on Cloud. Ammy is a low-midcarder, and I can't imagine Chris being any higher than that.

Auron >> Chris >= Shadow >>> PH
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 2/8/2010 12:44:29 AM | message detail

From: paraboxx | Posted: 2/8/2010 3:02:45 AM | #430
That's what I was asking earlier, though. What if it's different at Gamefaqs for some reason? What if Ashe, Basch or even Fran could do better than this? I just couldn't believe that the best character from a post-SNES FF game is only worth 30% on Ryu. At this point, though, I'm starting to understand why.

As for Auron/Chris/Pyramid/Shadow, I'd pick Auron/Chris today, but I'd still be iffy. It's not like it's Leon or anything.


Have you played FF12? Nothing from the plot stands out as memorable, save for the character BLATANTLY based off of Han Solo.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 2/8/2010 12:58:10 AM | message detail
Argh, come on, Ryu, hold that 70% until the morning vote kicks in

oh... oh wait
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 2/8/2010 1:01:19 AM | message detail

From: TheKoolAidShoto | #1051
Wait, X is one of your favorites, but you're complaining about slow battle systems?

DOES NOT COMPUTE





Son I am dissapoint
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Masato_Tanaka | Posted 2/8/2010 1:18:39 AM | message detail
*looks at the first post*

I've been saying that for years >_>
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Dilated Chemist | Posted 2/8/2010 1:36:50 AM | message detail
I got to the very end of FFXII and was aiming to complete the monster hunts. Made it all the way to this monster where he would only appear after you clear out all the enemies in 2 seperate sections of the map....

...yeah, that was BS and I gave up on it.

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Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 2/8/2010 2:21:08 AM | message detail
Hey I watced the leaderboard and it seems that the 3 people that had one mistake now have 2.Does that mean that all of them had Kratos winning?Now that is what I call Board 8 influence!
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 2/8/2010 2:27:33 AM | message detail
Board 8 typically does really well in these contests. It's silly how we'll hear "so glad I didn't listen to the board on my mega fantastic 1-point upset special" a million times a contest, yet without the general knowledge floating around here that's always taken for granted, people would make tons of ridiculous picks. Neither the board nor the Stats Topic are shackles restricting anyone's already ass-kicking prediction powers from reaching their absolute zenith.

Well, maybe the Stats Topic is, but that's because we plan it that way.
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Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 2/8/2010 2:31:24 AM | message detail
Hey i listened to this board suggestions for matched I had doubt and this is the first time that I get so well.Now I too can say that I should had chosen Sackboy and Kefka to win but I just say I am happy that I listened most suggestions here.Now people that complain well I find that pathetic.Me I only wanted when this contest is over to be on the leaderboad,because I have never done it.Nevertheless the correct prediction percentage here is around 95%.How can people complain?
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 2/8/2010 3:00:08 AM | message detail
From what I've heard Final Fantasy XII stands out more for its gameplay renovation from the older FFs and, to a lesser extent, the epic cutscenes, while the story and soundtrack are weaker (though still good) compared to the older FFs. The game has very mixed critical reception.

If Balthier is this weak...could Freeman be in trouble? It's not hard to imagine Peach breaking 40% on Ryu, though I could be wrong about this.
Iamthekuzalol | Posted 2/8/2010 3:16:53 AM | message detail
Glad to see that most of the Capcom characters are doing quite well this contest. Jill / MM / Ryu / Chris have all impressed me. Let's hope that Ken could perform well on Ganon.

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ZFS | Posted 2/8/2010 4:25:44 AM | message detail
Hell yeah Ryu

Dante goin' down

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The_Doom_Dealer | Posted 2/8/2010 4:32:11 AM | message detail
Hell yeah Ryu

Dante goin' down

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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/8/2010 5:02:01 AM | message detail
Looks like Ryu's going to end up almost right at where he's expected to based on last year's stats.

Dante's fine.
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voltch | Posted 2/8/2010 5:06:13 AM | message detail
358/2 boost will make axel embarass Dante and throw everything back into question.
come on anything to make that match look more competitive!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/8/2010 5:08:01 AM | message detail
The match should be plenty competitive. As long as Ryu didn't underperform here (and he didn't), Dante/Ryu should still be a good-looking match next round.
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voltch | Posted 2/8/2010 5:10:04 AM | message detail
Ryu has to win, so far every single pick I've changed has cost me points, I also changed from Dante to Ryu, so PLEASE, for once, just this ONCE, make it happen, I'd have been top of the goddamn leaderboard, but noooo, you had to screw me over jesus.
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ZFS | Posted 2/8/2010 5:12:36 AM | message detail
I'm doing pretty good so far. Got 41 points and probably won't lose another one until the Terra match. Can't believe I actually chose Revan there.

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firefdr | Posted 2/8/2010 5:17:23 AM | message detail
I went with Revan because of this board.

Same with Drake.

Same with Arthas.

Stupid board giving me bad opinions. ;_;