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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 822
LeonhartFour | Posted 2/7/2010 10:56:27 PM | message detail |
FFXII wasn't that good, but Balthier is awesome. I'd totally play through the game again just for Balthier. --- "Hold on a minute! That testimony stinks!" "Witness! You can't just say 'Hello' and expect us to get anywhere! I want you to testify!" |
KamikazePotato | Posted 2/7/2010 10:56:58 PM | message detail |
In a twist, I loved FFXII and don't care about Balthier whatsoever! --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 2/7/2010 10:57:22 PM | message detail |
From: KamikazePotato | #402 A twist of tragically bad taste, maybe! --- "Spoil it for me. I'm never going to play that game so I want to know if he's going to be another Auron or another Sin." - Soul about Jecht vs. PW |
ZenOfThunder | Posted 2/7/2010 10:58:06 PM | message detail |
I'm considering replaying FFXII and giving it a second chance, as last time I quit halfway through because I hated it so much. Good idea? Bad idea? --- (|| ' ' ||) Visio Vestri - Character Battle VIII Fanfiction Project . /|_|\ http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=53091233 |
LeonhartFour | Posted 2/7/2010 10:58:45 PM | message detail |
From: ZenOfThunder | #404 Depends. Why did you hate it? --- "I can set you free, mate." "My freedom was forfeit long ago!" |
TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 2/7/2010 10:58:55 PM | message detail |
I don't think anybody has ever finished FFXII. And if they say they did, they're lying. --- holy crap, you used an apostrophe to make a word plural at least 3 times in that post. that's like cryptonite to me if I was batman - Bako Ikporamee |
KamikazePotato | Posted 2/7/2010 10:59:46 PM | message detail |
I played FFXII twice! The second time I only used Vaan! *cough* --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
paraboxx | Posted 2/7/2010 11:00:28 PM | message detail |
But like... FFXII sucked. It's not surprising that it's weaksauce. Not everyone thought so. It's a polarizing game, but it has its fans. Even here at Gamefaqs it's the #1 PS2 game right now. You'd think that would translate to at least one of its characters, like it did for Squall in FF8. ...then again, Squall also has Kingdom Hearts. Balthier for KH3? |
ZenOfThunder | Posted 2/7/2010 11:01:16 PM | message detail |
From: LeonhartFour | #405 Gameplay was atrocious, the story was boring and the characters were all unappealing. I seriously can't even remember what the story was at all. Not a SINGLE DETAIL. And I didn't just hate the gameplay because it was different, I hated it because it was bad. Ugh, if I wanted to play an MMO, I'd play an MMO, not that stripped down piece of crap. But I'm willing to give it a second chance! Does it ever get better...? --- (|| ' ' ||) Visio Vestri - Character Battle VIII Fanfiction Project . /|_|\ http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=53091233 |
KamikazePotato | Posted 2/7/2010 11:03:11 PM | message detail |
FFXII gets worse as it goes along, if anything. The beginning of the game had some plot, the rest of the game...doesn't. --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 2/7/2010 11:04:12 PM | message detail |
From: ZenOfThunder | #409 Gameplay is the same throughout, so yeah, if you don't like it by now, you probably never will. The story never really picks up so if you don't like it halfway through, you'll probably never like it. Same with the characters. If you don't like them at that point, you probably won't end up liking them. I wasn't a big fan of the gameplay myself for the same reasons. MMOs no thanks. The story is one of the weakest in the series. I did like the characters for the most part though. Balthier, Ashe, and Basch are all good characters. Best Cid in the series, too! --- "Stay with me until the end. Please." "Not until the end. Always." |
ZenOfThunder | Posted 2/7/2010 11:05:00 PM | message detail |
Guess
I won't bother, then. I'm honestly trying really hard to remember a
single plot detail, but I can't. I don't even remember anything beyond
Balthier and Fran being sky pirates or something. I don't remember who
Ashe, Basche, Penelo or even Vaan are at all. Not a single detail
beyond name and appearance. They're that bland. --- (|| ' ' ||) Visio Vestri - Character Battle VIII Fanfiction Project . /|_|\ http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=53091233 |
KamikazePotato | Posted 2/7/2010 11:06:47 PM | message detail |
Penelo and Vaan have no details to remember, so that's not so bad. --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
ZenOfThunder | Posted 2/7/2010 11:09:00 PM | message detail |
Nice to know I'm not missing much... I feel like I wasted money on the game, though!! --- (|| ' ' ||) Visio Vestri - Character Battle VIII Fanfiction Project . /|_|\ http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=53091233 |
paraboxx | Posted 2/7/2010 11:09:01 PM | message detail |
The
story definitely picks up IMO. It shifts focus from political
"intrigue" to Cid and the Occuria, who are one-dimensional but still
pretty interesting. Gameplay picks up if you like gambits - you get
more, and you get more freedom to go with it. Characters...I dunno.
There are some badass NPCs late in the game, but of the main party only
Ashe and Fran really develop at all. I'd give it another go, but only if your backlog's running low. |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 2/7/2010 11:09:49 PM | message detail |
I
kept hearing the battle system was similar to KotOR's, so I was
naturally intrigued. I played for 30-45 minutes, put it aside because I
got Mario Galaxy, and I haven't touched it yet. It just didn't seem for
me. Honestly, how spoiled am I with X and VII being my first two FF games? Aren't these right up there with VI as the best in the series? --- Yoblazer: http://i38.tinypic.com/2s024p4.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
KamikazePotato | Posted 2/7/2010 11:10:58 PM | message detail |
IX, X, VIII, and Tactics are easily the best in the series. --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 2/7/2010 11:11:49 PM | message detail |
From: PartOfYourWorld | #416 uhhhh --- holy crap, you used an apostrophe to make a word plural at least 3 times in that post. that's like cryptonite to me if I was batman - Bako Ikporamee |
Lieutenant Kettch | Posted 2/7/2010 11:12:40 PM | message detail |
I
didn't enjoy FFXII, purely because it felt like half a game. When I was
reaching the end I was expecting a whole new country to explore, and
then it just ends all of a sudden. --- KrahenProphet and Nintendo cleaned me out in the Guru Contest. |
Kotetsu534 | Posted 2/7/2010 11:13:15 PM | message detail |
I
think IX is up there with those two. Main thing that holds it back is
an extremely slow battle system (and I played the slower PAL version
too... yeah), and no "no encounters" ability to get round it.
Plot/characters/sidequests/atmosphere/music/skill system were all
thoroughly enjoyable. Can be quite touching at times too! VII, IX and X
are my three clear favourites, followed by VI and VIII. --- Currently Playing: Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney, Ocarina of Time, Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn |
TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 2/7/2010 11:14:20 PM | message detail |
Wait, X is one of your favorites, but you're complaining about slow battle systems? DOES NOT COMPUTE --- holy crap, you used an apostrophe to make a word plural at least 3 times in that post. that's like cryptonite to me if I was batman - Bako Ikporamee |
paraboxx | Posted 2/7/2010 11:15:46 PM | message detail |
Wait, X is one of your favorites, but you're complaining about slow battle systems? DOES NOT COMPUTE IX is also one of his favorites, so apparently he's not complaining too much! X = best battle system in the series btw |
Kotetsu534 | Posted 2/7/2010 11:22:50 PM | message detail |
When
I said "slow" I'm less meaning "animations" (which, other than Summons,
none are very long in FFX) and more "why does the camera insist on
spending 20+ seconds panning around before every fight?" (happens in
FFIX). I had FFX in earlier, and battles are over and done much quicker
than in FFIX. --- Currently Playing: Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney, Ocarina of Time, Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn |
LeonhartFour | Posted 2/7/2010 11:29:39 PM | message detail |
but of the main party only Ashe and Fran really develop at all. ...Fran? Did I miss something with her? I mean, she's got Eruyt Village, but that's it. And FFX's battle system is slow? Since when? --- "Hold on a minute! That testimony stinks!" "Witness! You can't just say 'Hello' and expect us to get anywhere! I want you to testify!" |
Achromatic | Posted 2/7/2010 11:30:53 PM | message detail |
... As a person who is playing X atm, it is lightning fast. --- The difference between arrogance and confidence is confidence acts rather than speaks. Sir Chris |
paraboxx | Posted 2/7/2010 11:55:24 PM | message detail |
Nope, that's pretty much what I'm talking about. It's more than Vaan, Penelo, Balthier and even Basch can say, though. Heh, and here I'm wondering if any other FFXII characters would do well. |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 2/7/2010 11:55:50 PM | message detail |
FF12 arguments, ew. Stop that. So I've been going through every contest, trying to make a list of the best matches. I'm up to Fall 2007 (the first fourway, no seed contest), first round. I came across a very interesting match. Auron Chris Redfield Pyramid Head Shadow the Hedgehog It was Auron > Shadow in 2007. Everyone here would pick Auron > Chris now, right? --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´`·.,¸¸,.·´ WHAT'S THE MATTER, SCARED?? |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 2/7/2010 11:57:26 PM | message detail |
From: paraboxx | Posted: 2/8/2010 2:55:24 AM | #426 Balthier is the one thing from that game everyone likes. Check the current poll results. This isn't like FF6 where we all know Shadow would be the strongest character if he ever made the field. FF12 has no characters who would do well. --- "Final Fantasy XI is a bad game that no one should care about for any reason." -FFDragon |
ToadYoshi | Posted 2/7/2010 11:58:00 PM | message detail |
I'm
going to agree with those who say this is good for the Ryu>Dante
pickers. As someone who is doing well in the guru and has Dante >
Ryu in the guru, this worries me. Dante had better impress tomorrow... Of course, Charizard > Kratos is going to sink me once and for all <_< --- Guru contest: 43/46 (T1) Misses: Boss, Altair, Kefka. Next upset: Terra > Revan |
paraboxx | Posted 2/8/2010 12:02:45 AM | message detail |
That's
what I was asking earlier, though. What if it's different at Gamefaqs
for some reason? What if Ashe, Basch or even Fran could do better than
this? I just couldn't believe that the best character from a post-SNES
FF game is only worth 30% on Ryu. At this point, though, I'm starting
to understand why. As for Auron/Chris/Pyramid/Shadow, I'd pick Auron/Chris today, but I'd still be iffy. It's not like it's Leon or anything. |
Fayt_Esteed | Posted 2/8/2010 12:28:57 AM | message detail |
The
next debated match is Revan/Terra... Though that'll likely end up on
the list of hyped matches that failed to deliver, just like
Sackboy/Kratos A. --- "Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia |
paulg235 | Posted 2/8/2010 12:33:24 AM | message detail |
From: UltimaterializerX | #427 It depends on how Chris performs on Cloud. Ammy is a low-midcarder, and I can't imagine Chris being any higher than that. Auron >> Chris >= Shadow >>> PH --- The Gamer In Me "paulg is a genius." - MajinZidane |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 2/8/2010 12:44:29 AM | message detail |
From: paraboxx | Posted: 2/8/2010 3:02:45 AM | #430 Have you played FF12? Nothing from the plot stands out as memorable, save for the character BLATANTLY based off of Han Solo. --- MUSIC CAN BE OBJECTIVELY DEFINED AND ITS QUALITY EMPIRICALLY MEASURED BY THE INEQUALITY [WHAT I LIKE > WHAT YOU LIKE]. -Jaraqua Lefty Jones |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 2/8/2010 12:58:10 AM | message detail |
Argh, come on, Ryu, hold that 70% until the morning vote kicks in oh... oh wait --- Yoblazer: http://i38.tinypic.com/2s024p4.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 2/8/2010 1:01:19 AM | message detail |
From: TheKoolAidShoto | #1051 Son I am dissapoint --- Ah, you know it's funny, these people, they go to sleep. They think everything's fine, everything's good... They wake up the next day and they're on fire. |
Masato_Tanaka | Posted 2/8/2010 1:18:39 AM | message detail |
*looks at the first post* I've been saying that for years >_> --- Elephant Talk: A New Kind Of Music Blog! http://elephantmusictalk.blogspot.com/ |
Dilated Chemist | Posted 2/8/2010 1:36:50 AM | message detail |
I
got to the very end of FFXII and was aiming to complete the monster
hunts. Made it all the way to this monster where he would only appear
after you clear out all the enemies in 2 seperate sections of the
map.... ...yeah, that was BS and I gave up on it. --- GT: TriggerTRE "Nothing is true. Everything is permitted." |
Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 2/8/2010 2:21:08 AM | message detail |
Hey
I watced the leaderboard and it seems that the 3 people that had one
mistake now have 2.Does that mean that all of them had Kratos
winning?Now that is what I call Board 8 influence! --- GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~ |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 2/8/2010 2:27:33 AM | message detail |
Board
8 typically does really well in these contests. It's silly how we'll
hear "so glad I didn't listen to the board on my mega fantastic 1-point
upset special" a million times a contest, yet without the general
knowledge floating around here that's always taken for granted, people
would make tons of ridiculous picks. Neither the board nor the Stats
Topic are shackles restricting anyone's already ass-kicking prediction
powers from reaching their absolute zenith. Well, maybe the Stats Topic is, but that's because we plan it that way. --- Yoblazer: http://i29.tinypic.com/dqhyf5.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 2/8/2010 2:31:24 AM | message detail |
Hey
i listened to this board suggestions for matched I had doubt and this
is the first time that I get so well.Now I too can say that I should
had chosen Sackboy and Kefka to win but I just say I am happy that I
listened most suggestions here.Now people that complain well I find
that pathetic.Me I only wanted when this contest is over to be on the
leaderboad,because I have never done it.Nevertheless the correct
prediction percentage here is around 95%.How can people complain? --- GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~ |
LinkMarioSamus | Posted 2/8/2010 3:00:08 AM | message detail |
From
what I've heard Final Fantasy XII stands out more for its gameplay
renovation from the older FFs and, to a lesser extent, the epic
cutscenes, while the story and soundtrack are weaker (though still
good) compared to the older FFs. The game has very mixed critical
reception. If Balthier is this weak...could Freeman be in trouble? It's not hard to imagine Peach breaking 40% on Ryu, though I could be wrong about this. |
Iamthekuzalol | Posted 2/8/2010 3:16:53 AM | message detail |
Glad
to see that most of the Capcom characters are doing quite well this
contest. Jill / MM / Ryu / Chris have all impressed me. Let's hope that
Ken could perform well on Ganon. --- Snake's Mission "To make it to the finals for the fourth consecutive times" |
ZFS | Posted 2/8/2010 4:25:44 AM | message detail |
Hell yeah Ryu Dante goin' down --- wheresoever you go, go with all your heart |
The_Doom_Dealer | Posted 2/8/2010 4:32:11 AM | message detail |
Hell yeah Ryu Dante goin' down --- Put your cards where your mouth is. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 2/8/2010 5:02:01 AM | message detail |
Looks like Ryu's going to end up almost right at where he's expected to based on last year's stats. Dante's fine. --- "The great GF...Bahamut." "...GF? I...? Using my powers...It is you humans...I fear..." |
voltch | Posted 2/8/2010 5:06:13 AM | message detail |
358/2 boost will make axel embarass Dante and throw everything back into question. come on anything to make that match look more competitive! --- Shakes Fist! |
LeonhartFour | Posted 2/8/2010 5:08:01 AM | message detail |
The
match should be plenty competitive. As long as Ryu didn't underperform
here (and he didn't), Dante/Ryu should still be a good-looking match
next round. --- "Stay with me until the end. Please." "Not until the end. Always." |
voltch | Posted 2/8/2010 5:10:04 AM | message detail |
Ryu
has to win, so far every single pick I've changed has cost me points, I
also changed from Dante to Ryu, so PLEASE, for once, just this ONCE,
make it happen, I'd have been top of the goddamn leaderboard, but
noooo, you had to screw me over jesus. --- Shakes Fist! |
ZFS | Posted 2/8/2010 5:12:36 AM | message detail |
I'm
doing pretty good so far. Got 41 points and probably won't lose another
one until the Terra match. Can't believe I actually chose Revan there. --- wheresoever you go, go with all your heart |
firefdr | Posted 2/8/2010 5:17:23 AM | message detail |
I went with Revan because of this board. Same with Drake. Same with Arthas. Stupid board giving me bad opinions. ;_; |