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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 822

TheCodeisBosco | Posted 2/7/2010 12:28:26 PM | message detail
Man, we didn't really get that many newcomers. We really need to get more characters in. Sounds like a good excuse to discuss potential characters to nominate that will be at least high fodder!

Agreed! I'd like to see more newcomers in '11. These are some newcomers I think could do quite well:

Goomba (Super Mario Bros.)
Marin (The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening)
New Age Retro Hippie (EarthBound)
Mr. Game and Watch (Game and Watch series)
Bayonetta (Bayonetta)
Scout (Team Fortress 2)
Magikarp (Pokemon)

Maybe Fulgore from Killer Instinct too, since there seems to be a big fighting game fanbase here.


I'm just saying since everyone else seems to be underperforming, it wouldn't surprise me if Snake does too. Not that he's in danger of not getting to Seph or anything >_>

I don't really see how Snake would be underperforming if he failed to break 75% on him, though. Proto Man isn't Eddie Riggs-level fodder or anything.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/7/2010 12:28:51 PM | message detail

From: Xeybozn | #045
Why? Soul Calibur did well enough in the first contest to deserve a second chance, and there were two more popular Smash games in the contest already. Meanwhile, Fire Emblem had no reason at all to be in the contest.


I don't have a problem with Soul Calibur being added to the contest. I just don't think it should've taken SSB's place. Maybe I'll get lynched for this, but it should've taken Xenogears's place or Chrono Cross's place.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/7/2010 12:29:38 PM | message detail
I don't really see how Snake would be underperforming if he failed to break 75% on him, though. Proto Man isn't Eddie Riggs-level fodder or anything.

If Protoman was Eddie Riggs level fodder, Snake would push 90%. 75% on Protoman should be about expected.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 2/7/2010 12:29:50 PM | message detail
but it should've taken Xenogears's place or Chrono Cross's place.

get the hell out
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 2/7/2010 12:29:58 PM | message detail
I'd consider Soulcalibur over SSB64 slightly more moronic.

Only slightly, because snubbing Golden Sun was idiotic as well. We've already seen Fire Emblem suck once, why did we need to see it suck again?


Agreed.

Why? Soul Calibur did well enough in the first contest to deserve a second chance, and there were two more popular Smash games in the contest already. Meanwhile, Fire Emblem had no reason at all to be in the contest.

But did we REALLY have to boot out SSB64? Removing an entry with potential in favor of garbage... My words can't describe how idiotic that is.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 2/7/2010 12:31:12 PM | message detail
Even in retrospect, I think SF4 over TWEWY was a good move. We definitely had no clue back then that SF4 would be as weak as it was, and watching it struggle to beat Persona 4 was worth the switch!

From: Xeybozn | #045
Why? Soul Calibur did well enough in the first contest to deserve a second chance, and there were two more popular Smash games in the contest already. Meanwhile, Fire Emblem had no reason at all to be in the contest.


I don't have any objections with Soulcalibur itself and felt it was a good game to switch in, but SSB64 really was an unknown entity. The series took off here with Melee, and we didn't even have any good polls that told us how strong SSB64 would be. It had a huge range that made its match much more unpredictable. It could've beat Starcraft and maybe even threaten FF8. It could've done the same as SC did. Either way, we still have no idea how strong the original game is, and it would have only made the division more exciting.
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Ultimaphazon | Posted 2/7/2010 12:32:25 PM | message detail
Goomba (Super Mario Bros.) - Yes
Marin (The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening) - No. LA did ok in teh Game contest, but she would do horribly
New Age Retro Hippie (EarthBound) - No
Mr. Game and Watch (Game and Watch series) - hell no
Bayonetta (Bayonetta) - yes, but she's likely to get in anyway, since her game is now released
Scout (Team Fortress 2) - Spy and Heavy did ok, so why not
Magikarp (Pokemon) - no more pokemon please, even if they have joke appeal
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charmander6000 | Posted 2/7/2010 12:33:42 PM | message detail
Looking at characters from the NRT I wouldn't mind seeing

Gilgamesh - FFV
Epona - LoZ
Red XIII - FFVII
Vega - Street Fighter
Guile - Street Fighter
Roy - Fire Emblem
Mr. Game & Watcht - Game & Watch
Locke Cole - FFVI
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TheCodeisBosco | Posted 2/7/2010 12:34:14 PM | message detail
I think Proto Man is going to surprise and almost resist the doubling. Just my opinion.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/7/2010 12:35:04 PM | message detail

From: TheCodeisBosco | #059
I think Proto Man is going to surprise and almost resist the doubling. Just my opinion.


Man, Snake doubled Zero. No way Protoman comes close to avoiding a doubling.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 2/7/2010 12:35:44 PM | message detail
I don't even know if Zero could withstand a doubling from Snake these days >_>
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 2/7/2010 12:36:16 PM | message detail
Protoman is crap.
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Biolizard28 | Posted 2/7/2010 12:36:33 PM | message detail
Who's on top of the returner list for ya'll?
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 2/7/2010 12:38:13 PM | message detail
Gilgamesh - FFV OK
Epona - LoZ OK
Red XIII - FFVII No opinion
Vega - Street Fighter OK
Guile - Street Fighter OK
Roy - Fire Emblem See Red XIII
Mr. Game & Watcht - Game & Watch See above
Locke Cole - FFVI Sorry, but no.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/7/2010 12:39:05 PM | message detail

From: Biolizard28 | #063
Who's on top of the returner list for ya'll?


The #1 character who needs to return?

Honestly, I've wanted to see Bison get another shot for a long time.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 2/7/2010 12:39:13 PM | message detail

From: Biolizard28 | #063
Who's on top of the returner list for ya'll?


MGS Raiden, now with MGS4 and upcoming Metal Gear Raiden game assist!
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 2/7/2010 12:40:55 PM | message detail
These discussions need more Cammy. She's probably right behind Bison/Chun/Ken on the Street Fighter roster. I'd definitely take her over Akuba
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Xeybozn | Posted 2/7/2010 12:41:44 PM | message detail

From: Biolizard28 | #063
Who's on top of the returner list for ya'll?


Diablo, especially since he has a new game coming up.
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charmander6000 | Posted 2/7/2010 12:41:54 PM | message detail
Who's on top of the returner list for ya'll?

Let's see, note I haven't looked in 2007.

Chun Li
Master Hand >_>
M. Bison
Ms. Pac-Man (I believe Mega Man SFF her)
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Biolizard28 | Posted 2/7/2010 12:42:38 PM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #069
Ms. Pac-Man


Oh HELL no
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Ultimaphazon | Posted 2/7/2010 12:43:13 PM | message detail
There's no way Cammy is stronger than Akuma, no way at all.
I'd guess Akuma is actually stronger than Bison, but since Bison hasn't been seen for a long time, there's no way to tell fore sure.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 2/7/2010 12:43:39 PM | message detail
Ms. Pac-Man

Oh, HELL no.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 2/7/2010 12:44:52 PM | message detail
New Age Retro Hippie would be a nice joke character, and I think Goomba, Scout, and Bayonetta are musts.

It's hard to really think of more FF characters. There's, what, Shadow and Barrett? I think we should think more universal here, not just Bahamut, but other summons like Shiva, Titan, and Leviathan. I don't have much faith in Moogles or Chocobos, but there's no reason not to bring them in anyway.

What about other large games? Must be untapped potential somewhere.
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TheCodeisBosco | Posted 2/7/2010 12:46:22 PM | message detail
Man, Snake doubled Zero. No way Protoman comes close to avoiding a doubling.

Wait, really? I don't see any Snake/Zero matches on the Wiki.

Who's on top of the returner list for ya'll?

From a "contest strength" perspective... I don't know, probably Dr. Wily. From a "favorite character" perspective, though, it'd have to be Q*Bert! Dead serious, he's one of my favorite game characters ever.

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Not_Wylvane | Posted 2/7/2010 12:46:33 PM | message detail
No Master Hand please. It would tarnish his awesome reputation from kicking Kuja's ass, especially if he turns out to have had a Brawl boost.
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charmander6000 | Posted 2/7/2010 12:47:20 PM | message detail
Let's see the following from 2007 would now qualify for the NRT.

Vaan
Diablo
Sarah Kerrigan
Agent 47
Zelos Wilder
Midgar Zolom
Pyramid Head
Toad
Bomberman
Agent J
Bidoof
Sam Fisher
Tingle
Vergil
PaRappa the Rapper
Tommy Vercetti
Little Mac
Ada Wong
Serge
Spyro the Dragon
Nathan Hale
Prince of All Cosmos
Rayman
Vyse
Haseo
Daxter
Lara Croft
Viewtiful Joe
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 2/7/2010 12:47:21 PM | message detail
And I'm willing to bet Proto Man breaks 30% against Snake, and comes close to the doubling point. Aside from Snake likely being on the decline, Proto Man should be a decent midcard character.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 2/7/2010 12:47:27 PM | message detail

From: TheCodeisBosco | #074
Man, Snake doubled Zero. No way Protoman comes close to avoiding a doubling.

Wait, really? I don't see any Snake/Zero matches on the Wiki.


http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3285
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Lightning Strikes | Posted 2/7/2010 12:48:42 PM | message detail
I'll back New Age Retro Hippie.
TheCodeisBosco | Posted 2/7/2010 12:48:54 PM | message detail
Oh, okay - thanks for posting that! Talk about an impressive performance from Snake.

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 2/7/2010 12:49:17 PM | message detail
Zero also came dangerously close to Vivi there. Aside from the fact that there was clearly some weird SFF going on between Zero/Ryu/Snake, I think his Round 2 match against Crono in 2007 is far more indicitive of where he stands nowadays.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 2/7/2010 12:49:41 PM | message detail
Proto Man should be a decent midcard character

I know it's you, but why on Earth would you actually believe this?
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Karma Hunter | Posted 2/7/2010 12:49:53 PM | message detail
People people we're supposed to be dialing down expectations for Snake

didn't you get the memo this is an anti-blowout kinda contest
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KamikazePotato | Posted 2/7/2010 12:50:17 PM | message detail
Who anti-votes Snakes

seriously

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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 2/7/2010 12:51:09 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #084
Who anti-votes Snakes

seriously


BT when he's against MM characters
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charmander6000 | Posted 2/7/2010 12:51:47 PM | message detail
Not anti-vote, anti-blowout.

The site shift is actually people having no one to back behind so therefore they disperse making characters closer to each other.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 2/7/2010 12:52:12 PM | message detail
The fact that Zero only got 70% on him in 2004 despite it being a nearly Peach/Daisy SFF situation.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 2/7/2010 12:52:30 PM | message detail

From: Karma Hunter | #083
People people we're supposed to be dialing down expectations for Snake

didn't you get the memo this is an anti-blowout kinda contest


It's Snake. Even in his weaker years, the guy knew how to throw blowouts. Snake isn't reaching 80% with Proto Man here, but he should still impress.
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TheCodeisBosco | Posted 2/7/2010 12:52:52 PM | message detail
Even if he got completely thrashed, I'd love to see New Age Retro Hippie in a contest. Just look at the guy!

http://starmen.net/mother2/images/official/clay_hippie.png


I know it's you, but why on Earth would you actually believe this?

It's not impossible, is it? From what I've seen, Proto Man is one of the fan favorites of the Mega Man series. (My favorite character from the series is Rush, however.)

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Lightning Strikes | Posted 2/7/2010 12:54:46 PM | message detail
You know who we should get in?

Protagonist-Persona 3

He'd get votes for the "name" alone.
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 2/7/2010 12:55:11 PM | message detail
The fact that Zero only got 70% on him in 2004

Six year old stats from when Mega Man characters were a lot stronger hooray.
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charmander6000 | Posted 2/7/2010 12:57:27 PM | message detail
I do think Proto Man would have been a mid-card back in 2004. Today he's probably high fodder.
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charmander6000 | Posted 2/7/2010 12:59:35 PM | message detail
Heck a SFF Proto Man was on the fodder line back then.
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TheCodeisBosco | Posted 2/7/2010 1:01:01 PM | message detail
I don't even like Proto Man, and I still feel bad for him. He got into a contest... and was stuck against Zero. That's just cruel bracket-making.

Midgar Zolom for NRT Champion!

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LOLContests | Posted 2/7/2010 1:01:08 PM | message detail
I propose the next rally tournament being for 3 or 6 noms.

A 32 entrant bracket for returners
A 32 entrant bracket for snubs
A 16 entrant bracket for newcomers since the last contest.

The winner of each bracket gets an automatic nom, and people can sign up to nom the runners up if they wish to as well.
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TheCodeisBosco | Posted 2/7/2010 1:03:04 PM | message detail
^ I like that, personally!

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charmander6000 | Posted 2/7/2010 1:05:47 PM | message detail
A 16 entrant bracket for newcomers since the last contest.

How will we determine the cut-off point? I guess the first day of the contest. Also would Lightning be included in this one? I would go with no.
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LOLContests | Posted 2/7/2010 1:07:17 PM | message detail
How will we determine the cut-off point? I guess the first day of the contest. Also would Lightning be included in this one? I would go with no.

I would use the cutoff point as the date noms were announced.

Lightning wouldn't count as she's already made it in.
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Kotetsu534 | Posted 2/7/2010 1:07:55 PM | message detail
I think if a character has been in a contest, they can't claim to be a newcomer. Lightning shouldn't have any trouble getting nominations anyway.

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charmander6000 | Posted 2/7/2010 1:09:27 PM | message detail
Personally I would go with the 2:2:1 ratio. It keeps it balance at 5.
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