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Let's just stop nominating Tales characters, ok? Ok

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~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~
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~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~
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http://thengamer.com/xstats
http://thengamer.com/stats

~*Character Contest Histories (Thanks to Raven 2 for the info transfer)*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Contest_Histories

~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

~*All the match pics*~
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/index.php

~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages

~*Poll Start Times*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Character_Battle_8_Poll_Start_Times

~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~

SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them.

X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process.

Noble Nine - Link, Cloud, Sephiroth, Mario, Crono, Solid Snake, Sonic, Samus and Mega Man.

Near-Elite - The Squall, Auron, Tifa, Vincent, Zelda, Kirby, etc group that has come at, near or even ahead of Noble Nine characters in the past.

The Fodder Line - A final X-Stat value of 15% or below.

For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything.
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Currently 17th on the CBVIII Leaderboard ^_^
Current Pick: Gaming's most generic "badass" ;_;

Because they are dogmeat? Every. Single. Time?
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Point Total: 38/44
My Bracket Says: Night: Leon Day: Kratos Aurion

Why did I not go with my gut? Whyyyyy?
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Q. If your canoe is in a tree with its headlights on, how many pancakes does it take to get to the moon?
A. None. Snakes don't have armpits.

But then who would we watch get blown out? Guybrush and CATS again?

At least Fails characters gives us different varieties of suck!
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Not Wylvane

Presea Combatir for SC2K11!
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"Stay with me until the end. Please."
"Not until the end. Always."

Nibelheim Innkeeper please. Blade of Grass from Hyrule Field works too.
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6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....

If theres a RE6, its obvious who the main character should be

http://www.freewebs.com/platx/barryburton.jpg
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http://i48.tinypic.com/2wmghtl.jpg
Albion Hero is the Cream of Loli Fanboyism

These contests need more Mike Haggar
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A pro isn't someone who sacrifices himself for his job. That's just a fool. - Reno, FFVII

Tag
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"Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia

The Ryu/Chun have had three new games since the last Character Battle, and after watching the three RE5 guys in action, I'm starting to get this crazy feeling that Ken's performance may have actually been good.

Yeah, RE5 characters so far have been impressive, which helps make Ken's slight win over Wesker look better. Lookin' forward to Ryu tonight, wanna see how well he does.

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wheresoever you go, go with all your heart

What happened to Raiden(MGS)? Now that MGS4 is out and everyone has seen how awesome he is now, I think he can be decent. He did better than Simon Belmont at least!
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Currently 17th on the CBVIII Leaderboard ^_^
Current Pick: Gaming's most generic "badass" ;_;

A 64 character bracket is almost impossible now. Taking the top 8 seeds we're missing characters such as...

Mega Man X
Knuckles
Mewtwo
Donkey Kong
Jill Valentine
Sub-Zero
Zelda
Aerith
Tifa
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Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls
Character Battle VIII - 36/44 - Today's Winners: Leon and Sackboy

These contests need more Mike Haggar

I concur...
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Nominate B.B. Hood for CB IX
http://miniurl.org/ntI

These contests need more Mike Haggar

OK.
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"Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia

I'd veto a 64-entrant contest till I could veto no more; we'd snub way too many awesome characters every time. This format should be the new standard. Everyone seems to love it, but I hope it isn't an overload on Moltar and the poor Crew.
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Yoblazer: http://i44.tinypic.com/5nw45i.jpg
Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world!

I know people will claim this is too complicated, but I think a good idea would be to give the top 32 Seeds byes for the bracket and have 4-ways for the remaining seeds. This only extends the contest by 2 weeks, and gives us 96 characters, which should be enough.
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"You've got a ramen doctor at your secret ramen base?"--Neku Sakuraba
Yesmar

I'd veto a 64-entrant contest till I could veto no more; we'd snub way too many awesome characters every time.

But part of the fun is seeing who gets snubbed and seeing characters you've been waiting to see in action for years!
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"You've got a ramen doctor at your secret ramen base?"--Neku Sakuraba
Yesmar

Again, of all the characters to cut the ToS crew is not high priority. Hell, focus on guys like Layton who are doomed to getting blown-out, rather than weaker characters who can give somewhat close, hard to call matches like this one.

I'd be all for going back to 64... not a fan of 12 hour matches at all. I routinely completely miss the midnight-noon matches.

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Can't stop, won't stop.

Also, 128 is a vast improvement over 64. It makes for lower predictability overall and now that we're back to one on one, what's to complain about? Honestly, the last two 64-man contests were a bore. They only had a handful of upsets and debatable matches. Widening the field helps enormously.

From: LOLContests | #017
But part of the fun is seeing who gets snubbed and seeing characters you've been waiting to see in action for years!

There's nothing fun about realizing a good entrant got snubbed (well, I guess the board enjoyed it when Tifa got snubbed in 2007 so they could make fun of Vlado), and the odds of seeing characters you've been excited for increase as you allow more entrants.

I just think this format is fantastic. I like the return to 1v1s and the faster pace. We've had a bit of a dull spell since Kefka's match (not counting today), and just imagine how unbearable it would have been with 24 hour matches.
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Yoblazer: http://i33.tinypic.com/ml36gl_th.gif
Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world!

I'd be fine with this being the new standard. I think my interest level in a 128 character bracket with 12-hour matches and a 64-character bracket with 24 hour matches would be pretty close. I would not mind cutting some of our midcarders in return for not seeing boring fodder matches all through the first round. With a lot of these matches, even if it were close I would not care much.

For our next gimmick based contest though, I want to see a global electoral college! The electoral votes would be determined by average votes from each state or country instead of population. Not sure if Canada and the UK should be counted as solid entities or divided up.
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6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....

Being fairly generous, here is how my proposed characters could fit into the current bracket without snubbing anyone important.

1. Switch Falco and Edgeworth, and replace Edgeworth with Seifer.
2. Switch Midna and Laharl and replace Neku with Chun-Li.
3. Replace Ratchet with Pac-Man.
4. Replace Wander with Nightmare.
5. Replace Banjo with Diablo.
6. Replace Geno with Lara Croft.

Now isn't that better.

OK, I wasn't able to work in all of my changes, but I tried to be as generous as possible (I even kept in Guybrush!) and I think that with more replacements the bracket would look a lot better.
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"You've got a ramen doctor at your secret ramen base?"--Neku Sakuraba
Yesmar

Reducing to 64 would be unfortunate. Personally I want more characters. 243 characters! In 3-ways. Only the winner goes through. A total of 121 matches... Seeing obscure characters getting in and watching how they'll do, that's like half the fun of this contest. I'd love that!
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Nominate B.B. Hood for CB IX
http://miniurl.org/ntI

Switching Crono and L-Block would have made this bracket a whole lot better. On Crono's side, I'm sure some people would have taken Sora to beat him, some really daring people would have taken Charizard to beat him, and I would have taken Crono to beat Mario. On L-Block's side, L/Missingno would have been heavily debated, and then L-Block/Yoshi would have been heavily debated a lot too.
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6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....

Switching Crono and L-Block would have made this bracket a whole lot better. On Crono's side, I'm sure some people would have taken Sora to beat him, some really daring people would have taken Charizard to beat him, and I would have taken Crono to beat Mario. On L-Block's side, L/Missingno would have been heavily debated, and then L-Block/Yoshi would have been heavily debated a lot too.

See this is what Bacon needs to do. If we were allowed to have Add/Remove topics, why can't we legally have topics asking for characters to be switched?
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"You've got a ramen doctor at your secret ramen base?"--Neku Sakuraba
Yesmar

1. Switch Falco and Edgeworth, and replace Edgeworth with Seifer.
2. Switch Midna and Laharl and replace Neku with Chun-Li.
3. Replace Ratchet with Pac-Man.
4. Replace Wander with Nightmare.
5. Replace Banjo with Diablo.
6. Replace Geno with Lara Croft.

Not bad

But it takes out not horrible fodderish characters like Edgeworth and Neku while leaving in such TITANS as Sandal, Eddie Riggs, Captain MacMillan...

Hell, taking out Ratchet is a bad move considering knowing Pac-Man he could give him a run for his money... and it's Eddie Riggs. EDDIE RIGGS. I think you swapped the wrong character out of that match.

Again, of all the characters to cut the ToS crew is not high priority. Hell, focus on guys like Layton who are doomed to getting blown-out, rather than weaker characters who can give somewhat close, hard to call matches like this one.

Agreed.
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"Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia

well there we go another change that crushed my bracket, kratos, Tidus, Magus, Liquid, why did I pick you guys?
I stuck with Red and Ammy and that paid off, but I switched to you guys and you repay my glimmer of faith by burning me and my bracket to the stake.
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Shakes Fist!

But it takes out not horrible fodderish characters like Edgeworth and Neku while leaving in such TITANS as Sandal, Eddie Riggs, Captain MacMillan...

Hell, taking out Ratchet is a bad move considering knowing Pac-Man he could give him a run for his money... and it's Eddie Riggs. EDDIE RIGGS. I think you swapped the wrong character out of that match.

Despite my hatred for useless fodder, at least Eddie Riggs, and Sandal are new characters (although I would prefer a more popular Dragon Age character) and MacMillan just had a game in his series win GOTY. I'm willing to give them a shot over proved fodder who's been in multiple years and bombed every time. I would have no problem with them being replaced, I was just trying to be as generous as possible.

While Riggs's 1st round match becomes obvious, the 2nd round one becomes much more exciting, and it's among more popular characters to boot!
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"You've got a ramen doctor at your secret ramen base?"--Neku Sakuraba
Yesmar

I'm betting we get a 55-65% prediction percentage this time... the casuals have to have gone for sackboy
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Contest score: 37/45 Today's picks: Leon Kennedy & Sackboy

I know Kratos was expected to lose, but why you guys shooting him down so much?

He's faring a lot better than i had expected. Yet the big kahunas (Link, Cloud, etc) have been underperforming, most notably Cloud vs Ridley. We though Cloud would quadruple him, but didnt even come close to that.
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"If history is to change, let it change. If the world is to be destroyed, so be it. If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh." -Magus

Yeah the casuals won over the board rather easily in this match.
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Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls
Character Battle VIII - 36/44 - Today's Winners: Leon and Sackboy

Snake gets under 75% on Protoman. Book it!
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Currently 17th on the CBVIII Leaderboard ^_^
Current Pick: Gaming's most generic "badass" ;_;

But most of all, the only problem with the bracket was the 8/9 seeds. Seriously, we get matches like Lloyd/Fox, where a decent weaker character gets totally screwed, then stuff like Laharl/Neku and Chris/MacMillan.

Now, in the games contest, add/remove was a horrible, horrible feature. Its only significant contribution was screwing over Golden Sun in the most moronic move in contest history. And its other switches were meaningless at best, aggravating at worst. But if we had a system where Allen lets us post ideas for switching characters within the bracket, that could work.

(Response to post from last topic)

Pac-Man a flop? The guy who exposed Kefka and upset Ocelot?

Pac-Man was pathetic in 2002, but I wouldn't go so far as call him a flop. He's more deserving of being in here than, say, Eddie ****ing Riggs.

So which newcomers do we need to bring back next year so far? Price, Jecht, Vault Boy, Charizard, and maybe Red? And we've still got Soap, Revan, and Missingno to see in action as well.

Man, we didn't really get that many newcomers. We really need to get more characters in. Sounds like a good excuse to discuss potential characters to nominate that will be at least high fodder!

Bahamut's a must!
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Not Wylvane

Snake gets under 75% on Protoman. Book it!

How would this be bad...?

Snake will look just fine as long as he manages the doubling, really.

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Vote for Vault Boy!
Because seriously, wouldn't Vault Boy/Sackboy be funny to see?

I'm just saying since everyone else seems to be underperforming, it wouldn't surprise me if Snake does too. Not that he's in danger of not getting to Seph or anything >_>
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holy crap, you used an apostrophe to make a word plural at least 3 times in that post. that's like cryptonite to me if I was batman - Bako Ikporamee

From: Lightning Strikes | #035
But most of all, the only problem with the bracket was the 8/9 seeds. Seriously, we get matches like Lloyd/Fox, where a decent weaker character gets totally screwed, then stuff like Laharl/Neku and Chris/MacMillan.

Now, in the games contest, add/remove was a horrible, horrible feature. Its only significant contribution was screwing over Golden Sun in the most moronic move in contest history. And its other switches were meaningless at best, aggravating at worst. But if we had a system where Allen lets us post ideas for switching characters within the bracket, that could work.

I'd consider Soulcalibur over SSB64 slightly more moronic.

Only slightly, because snubbing Golden Sun was idiotic as well. We've already seen Fire Emblem suck once, why did we need to see it suck again?
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Not Wylvane

He's more deserving of being in here than, say, Eddie ****ing Riggs.

Well I can't say you're wrong there, I was just talking about how he really isn't worth switching some characters out for. But guys like Riggs, definitely.

From: Not_Wylvane | #039
I'd consider Soulcalibur over SSB64 slightly more moronic.

This.

Fire Emblem being put in the one spot where advancement was impossible is one thing, removing a potential powerhouse for aged trash is moronic.
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It may be insulting, but it's true!
Now this is entertainment!

KP nailed it pretty well on the new character front. Bayonetta should do good, Lightning has potential to be at least Auron level, I still want to get in Gilgamesh, and uh...yeah.
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holy crap, you used an apostrophe to make a word plural at least 3 times in that post. that's like cryptonite to me if I was batman - Bako Ikporamee

I have gotten right the hard matches and I have lost the easy matches!Man...
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GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~

I'd consider Soulcalibur over SSB64 slightly more moronic.

Only slightly, because snubbing Golden Sun was idiotic as well. We've already seen Fire Emblem suck once, why did we need to see it suck again?

That was pretty bad, actually. But not as bad as putting a weak contestant like Fire Emblem into its worst possible match. I'd also like to mention TWEWY swapped out for SFIV-another weaker contestant(though that ultimately affected nothing either way).

Like I said, Add/Remove is a terrible function, but I want to see match recommendations allowed.

From: Not_Wylvane | #039
I'd consider Soulcalibur over SSB64 slightly more moronic.

Why? Soul Calibur did well enough in the first contest to deserve a second chance, and there were two more popular Smash games in the contest already. Meanwhile, Fire Emblem had no reason at all to be in the contest.
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http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=68

In regards to the current bracket, it could be fixed (in addition to my new characters) if:

1) Switch Vivi and Tifa
2) Switch Wesker/Ken with Bowser/Frog or Price/X
3) red sox's idea to switch Crono and L-Block
4) Switch Travis/Zelda with Sackboy/Kratos
5) Switch Fox and MacMillan
6) Switch Commander Shepard/Ellis with Zero/Fenix
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"You've got a ramen doctor at your secret ramen base?"--Neku Sakuraba
Yesmar

Man, we didn't really get that many newcomers. We really need to get more characters in. Sounds like a good excuse to discuss potential characters to nominate that will be at least high fodder!

The contest has reached a point where pretty much all major characters have been covered. All that's left are brand new characters and lower ranked characters from a strong series.

Heck the vote-ins really masacered a lot of potential characters, really who do we want to see that failed in the vote-ins?

Jigglypuff (to finish the original smash roaster)
Bayonetta
Morrigan/Alistar
Zoey/Louis (If Ellis impresses)
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Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls
Character Battle VIII - 36/44 - Today's Winners: Leon and Sackboy

I actually don't have any issues with Add/Remove other than the Fire Emblem/Golden Sun switch.

The reason it didn't "work" was because when you have so many question marks like you did in 2009, there's no real point to it. It's much more useful when working with established entrants.
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"You've got a ramen doctor at your secret ramen base?"--Neku Sakuraba
Yesmar

I say we don't worry about NEW characters for now. There's a lot of game to come this year, with a lot of new characters.

But what about existing characters who have yet to see a contest? It worked great for X and Charizard. Bahamut's a good one, any others?

I'd back Bahamut.
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It may be insulting, but it's true!
Now this is entertainment!