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From: DpObliVion | #329
Hehe....

If I have a rule when filling out brackets, it's never pick a Tales Of character to win. I didn't have a whole lot of confidence in Sackboy, but I was just picking against Kratos here. Glad to see it paying off.

Same principle here. Sackboy was a gutsy pick for me mostly fueled off the fact that Tales characters have a proud history of sucking.
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Peach got 34% on Tifa, which is worth less than 30% on Samus. Plus that was probably a stronger Peach back then.
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6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....

Peach couldn't even beat hype Meta-Knight.

*shrug

Hype Meta Knight was a decent midcarder. It never really made sense to me, but that's how popular he is. Peach still beat Jill, and put up decent numbers against Tifa, albeit it with a pic advantage.
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Glad I picked Sackboy! My next pick that's different from the Guru is... Liquid Snake winning Round 2.

Meh.
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...and a stronger Gordon. HL-2/The Orange Box was pretty god damn enormous for a while there. I have Gordon is my bracket, but wouldn't be surprised at all to see Peach take it down.

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I have Gordon is my bracket, but wouldn't be surprised at all to see Peach take it down.

How come?
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"Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia

oh god damn, since when did you start posting here again EC
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I think the Samus comparison was rather arbitrary as we don't know how much exactly Ganondorf hurt Samus in that match, so here's another comparison:

2006 Peach: 33.95% on Tifa
2008 Gordon: 37.95% on Vincent

I think there would be a lot more debate on the match if it weren't for Gordon winning Gamespot's contest.
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6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....

Oh man, over three full days until our next potentially interesting match, and even that one can just devolve into an Auron SFF beatdown. Revan/Terra is 4.5 days away.
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BTW, I was more curious as to why wouldn't you be surprised to see Peach take Gordon out, Classadelphia.
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"Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia

The current 8th place bracket maker, Lucky4815162342, has Sackboy and may emerge as our top bracket. Unfortunately, he has Peach>Gordon. That just seems so weird to me.

I'm in 14th at the moment and I've got Sackboy too. Maybe I can get to no. 1 before the second round starts...

Really worried about Darth Revan and Big Daddy who I both have winning, also a bit worried about Gordon and Ness.

From: PartOfYourWorld | #359
Oh man, over three full days until our next potentially interesting match, and even that one can just devolve into an Auron SFF beatdown. Revan/Terra is 4.5 days away.

Yeah, and then it might turn into this kinda match; its exciting for like, ten minutes and then someone pulls away and never looks back. And no one really cares to gauge strength because the winner is gonna get owned next round
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So, uh... Are we done nominating Tales Of characters? Can they stop entering the contest, please?
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Oh man, over three full days until our next potentially interesting match, and even that one can just devolve into an Auron SFF beatdown. Revan/Terra is 4.5 days away.

Man oh man... I still can't trust Terra to win even after what Kefka pulled.
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"Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia

Man, I has Sackboy winning, but I was expecting it to be closer than this.
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Why? Because Peach is no pushover. Destroyed Daisy (yes I know), beat Jill, and put up 34% on Tifa (who lets remember almost beat Samus that year). I'm going to grant that Tifa > Samus almost happening is most likely 100% overperformance in that match alone, which means Peach's 34% against her should be about her true value on a standard Tifa if you adjust her back to normal values. Still, if anything Peach can only be stronger than normally assumed from that contest.

Then you put her in 4-ways, and she instantly loses an incredible amount of her support. She's not a character who a lot of people love, she's a character who every single person knows. She's just one of the characters I'd expect to be worse off in 4-ways, and Meta-Knight better. There was an absolutely massive hype-explosion behind Meta at the time too, and don't even try to question any real power that had, because we all know what Snake did.

Then you have Gordon, the notorious loser. Tina Armstrong, Max Payne, Sam Fisher... obviously he's a different guy from back then, but the dude just has a knack for finding ways to lose. Then he put up a decent showing on Leon Kennedy, (60-40 if you want to call that decent, certainly by comparison to his previous matches), and then finally beats the fresh-kid on the block "joke" newcomer in Phoenix Wright, before getting swallowed by Sora. Hell he lost to Duke 'freaking Nuke'em in 4-ways, how that isn't being talked about as much as Peach losing to Meta is beyond me. Gordon if anything should be benfitted from the 4-way format, what with not being an incredibly mainstream character who is well known by all. He was incredibly close to losing out to Ike too. I know I'd take Peach over Duke and Ike. Granted Gordon came back and beat Duke the next round for 3rd place, but he still got soundly beat by Sub-Zero. There's no reason for Gordon to be the overwhelming favorite, but yet he is.

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backing peach against gordon is just asking for a point lost
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backing loli with a straight-face is just asking to be a social reject o wate

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I picked Gordon > Peach out of pure fanboyism, and i was surprised that most of the board felt the same way.
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Gordon's probably the favorite because of what he ended up doing to Scorpion more than anything.
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Talking about Gordon's old days really has no bearing on that match. He is very capable of winning just about anything now, and with Nintendo not showing any real signs of gaining while Gordon *HAS*, I think it's an easy pick for me.
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backing peach against gordon is just asking for a point lost

We get it. You will always support Western characters over Eastern characters. People supporting Peach (and I don't think most of them even have Peach winning) have given FACTS and NUMBERS to back up their point of view. Do you have anything to offer besides your "obvious" biased opinions?
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From: LOLContests | #372
backing peach against gordon is just asking for a point lost

We get it. You will always support Western characters over Eastern characters. People supporting Peach (and I don't think most of them even have Peach winning) have given FACTS and NUMBERS to back up their point of view. Do you have anything to offer besides your "obvious" biased opinions?

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3281

I don't know about you, but I'd take Scorpy over Peace any day.
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EC's right, honestly. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Peach beat Gordon.
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We like to base picks on irrational guidelines like "never pick Kefka to win" or "Gordon Freeman never wins" or more recently, "Gordon Freeman always impresses."

2k8 Gordon was really impressive though, and he beat up Falco pretty badly, who I'd think is around Peach level.
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6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....

Why? Because Peach is no pushover. Destroyed Daisy (yes I know), beat Jill, and put up 34% on Tifa (who lets remember almost beat Samus that year). I'm going to grant that Tifa > Samus almost happening is most likely 100% overperformance in that match alone, which means Peach's 34% against her should be about her true value on a standard Tifa if you adjust her back to normal values. Still, if anything Peach can only be stronger than normally assumed from that contest.

Then you put her in 4-ways, and she instantly loses an incredible amount of her support. She's not a character who a lot of people love, she's a character who every single person knows. She's just one of the characters I'd expect to be worse off in 4-ways, and Meta-Knight better. There was an absolutely massive hype-explosion behind Meta at the time too, and don't even try to question any real power that had, because we all know what Snake did.

Then you have Gordon, the notorious loser. Tina Armstrong, Max Payne, Sam Fisher... obviously he's a different guy from back then, but the dude just has a knack for finding ways to lose. Then he put up a decent showing on Leon Kennedy, (60-40 if you want to call that decent, certainly by comparison to his previous matches), and then finally beats the fresh-kid on the block "joke" newcomer in Phoenix Wright, before getting swallowed by Sora. Hell he lost to Duke 'freaking Nuke'em in 4-ways, how that isn't being talked about as much as Peach losing to Meta is beyond me. Gordon if anything should be benfitted from the 4-way format, what with not being an incredibly mainstream character who is well known by all. He was incredibly close to losing out to Ike too. I know I'd take Peach over Duke and Ike. Granted Gordon came back and beat Duke the next round for 3rd place, but he still got soundly beat by Sub-Zero. There's no reason for Gordon to be the overwhelming favorite, but yet he is.

...I see.
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From: Lightslayer987 | #373
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3281

I don't know about you, but I'd take Scorpy over Peace any day.

I don't know about you, but I'd take Peach over Falco any day. Scorpy didn't exactly have a big margin of victory over Falco. The old Scorp = Sub-Zero argument pretty much fell flat on it's face too. It's become pretty clear that Sub-Zero is the much stronger of the two, and he's not exactly a bastion of strength.

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From: Fayt_Esteed | #377
...I see.

I realize those paragraphs were written with the capabilities of a 5 year old, but I'm hungover, give me a break. I just tried to get the bare info out.

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Time to bail. This argument is almost as bad as the red > x arguments.
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or any post you've ever made. but honestly what could ever be that bad?

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It's a great deal better than copy/pasting irrelevant 4-way extrapolations from lol xstats and not giving a word of explanation!
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6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....

I would have taken Gordon to have a close match with her in 2005.
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For the record, I think Gordon probably wins with 56-57%, based on what we've seen this contest, and while I wouldn't think he would fall back down to lower levels, I would have said the same thing in 2007 as well, and he did.
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From: red sox 777 | #382
It's a great deal better than copy/pasting irrelevant 4-way extrapolations from lol xstats and not giving a word of explanation!

if that was a dig against me --- that's the entire point. There's really not much to say other than basing it off your opinion. 4-ways are so jacked up, you really can't take anything solid out of it. All I'm saying is to me, Gordon seems like a guy that would benefit more from 4-ways, and Peach one that would be hurt more. How much --- if at all, I have no earthly idea, and I don't think anyone else does either.

I've always been a long-time proponent of hype being the absolute strongest contest factor someone can have, so long as it's so overwhelming you can't take a breath without seeing or hearing something else about it. We saw it with Mario, Chief, Snake, and to an extent, I believe Meta. There's nothing to compare Meta too obviously, and even if there were the 4-ways would mess up any solid conclusions you can draw anyway. Once the game actually drops, and people realize what it truly is, all the excitement and mystery goes away and suddenly they're not quite so awesome anymore. It's like a chick, she's way hotter when she's still clothed and you're trying to get her naked. The idea of her banging body can drive you insane, but once you get to it, there's always some letdown. Hype is king.

And along that note, I'd expect Gordon to have taken a half-step back from his peak strength with HL-2/Orange Box mania severely dying down.

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Oh no, it was a dig at Albion, not you. He does that a lot- just copy/paste from lol xstats, usually with 4-way stats.
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6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....

I don't see how what EC's saying is so far fetched to you guys. Honestly I'm not going to be too shocked if Kratos beats Charizard, and Zard's match was all Duke being pathetic and he just benefitted massively from 4-ways.

I can see Gordon being similar to Duke, and I can definitely see more people voting Peach because "oh hey it's peach vs some unrecognizable guy"
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Gordon 2007 and Gordon 2008 are two very different entities, though.
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http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2328

yeah "lol mario favorite poll", but she is closer to waluigi then anyone else. people don't give a damn about her. Plus, her only somewhat good looking matches were in the female bracket, and I thought we all agreed not to take that bracket seriously
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WTF at the last 2 updates. Sackboy had a huge spike out of nowhere. First a 59% update, then a 60% update.
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I can see the argument for 4-ways hurting Peach, and she probably got SFF'd by Fox and Meta-Knight.

I don't think she wins over Gordon on the basis of everyone knowing who she is and apathy for Gordon though, not in 2010. In 2005-2007, maybe, but Nintendo's power has waned a lot since then, and being from Nintendo is no longer sufficient to get you that many votes.
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6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....

That Mario poll reminds me, we need to get Waluigi into a future contest.
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I'm expecting Gordon getting 70% on Peach myself.
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From: Not_Wylvane | #393
I'm expecting Gordon getting 70% on Peach myself.

Doubling sounds about right to me. Nintendo fodder vs. mid card = doubling me thinks
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70% is put of the question considering how many characters are struggling to flat-out kill their opponents.
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Peach is not Nintendo fodder. -_- Tifa only managed to double Peach.
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From: MarioSuperstar | #396
Peach is not Nintendo fodder. -_- Tifa only managed to double Peach.

Unrecognizable sprite + female bracket

aka, worse than 4way stats to use to argue with
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Gordon is still not going to be anywhere close to Peach, and you can't attribute Peach being fodder just because "it's the female bracket". Yes, it's the female bracket, but Peach is still not fodder at all. She still beat Jill; female or not.
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Anywhere close to Tifa* my bad.
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