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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 821

MoogleKupo141 | Posted 2/7/2010 12:52:51 AM | message detail
I remember always using Dig because you get it right before Vermillion and it's useful against Surge, but don't recall anything special about it beyond that.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 2/7/2010 12:54:23 AM | message detail
Ultimaterializer (3:50:07 AM): how was dig too good?
Ultimaterializer (3:50:12 AM): just random absurd damage?
swirldude (3:51:39 AM): 100 power, 100% accuracy
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swirldude (3:52:05 AM): promptly got nerfed to 60 power, 100% accuracy in Gen 2



I should note I have no clue what this means. I never got into Poke-mechanics.
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 2/7/2010 12:55:43 AM | message detail
that just means it was stronger and now it's weaker... it's not that complex ;>_>

100 base power is a lot, same as Earthquake... 60 base power is pretty mediocre.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 2/7/2010 12:57:12 AM | message detail
Dig took two turns to hit, though. I mean, that's pretty good, but it doesn't sound broken.
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Team Rocket Elite | Posted 2/7/2010 12:58:57 AM | message detail
Dig was 100 power, 99.6% accuracy. Earthquake was exactly the same. Dig requires 2 turns to use. You can't be hit during the first turn (except by Swift) but you're telegraphing what you're doing. Earthquake is generally better. I can't remember if there are any instances where a Pokemon can learn both Dig and Earthquake but you would use Dig.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 2/7/2010 1:02:27 AM | message detail
I meant mechanics for how much damage that is. "100 power" means little to me, just like PA x 16 x [Zodiac Compatibility/1.2] means nothing to someone who hasn't read up on FFT battle mechanics.
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Lightslayer987 | Posted 2/7/2010 1:06:34 AM | message detail
Almost a 47% update for Vaulty there... I wonder if he'll be able to cut.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 2/7/2010 1:09:11 AM | message detail
He MUST get one.
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Team Rocket Elite | Posted 2/7/2010 1:14:11 AM | message detail
100 power is a strong attack but not game breaking. From a Pokemon with high Attack hitting a pokemon with decent defense, it would do around 20-30% of their total HP.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 2/7/2010 1:15:48 AM | message detail
Does a chart exist anywhere of what types are strong/weak against one another in Emerald?
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Figlar20000 | Posted 2/7/2010 2:04:33 AM | message detail
Dig was a terrible move, especially considering almost all pokemon that could learn dig also learned Earthquake.

My favourite was Toxic followed by Wrap or Firespin, have to love how ridiculously broken Charizards were back in the day back when no rock moves existed.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 2/7/2010 2:11:33 AM | message detail
When my brother and I played Red, we thought Fissure was the best move in the game because it was a one hit KO.

"It kinda misses a lot, have you noticed that?"
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 2/7/2010 2:27:08 AM | message detail
Based on extrapolating Cloud/Ridley and Leon/Vault Boy, it seems that Vault Boy should break 30% on Cloud. I'm not buying that, so there's proof for a Ridley boost.

It's still scary that Cloud couldn't come close (within a few percent =/= close) to tripling a character who is always a faceless boss fight without much storyline written in his games. There is some backstory in Metroid Prime, but you have to scan something to find the backstory and I'm not sure if most GameFAQs guys would have the patience to do that.
Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 2/7/2010 2:33:40 AM | message detail
Pokemon stadium, as many people know, The comps were ****ing cheaters.

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voltch | Posted 2/7/2010 3:44:24 AM | message detail
oh cool, a pokemon topic where MWC doesn't ruin everything.
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Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 2/7/2010 3:48:52 AM | message detail
So Sackboy vs Kratos Aurion who wins?Sackboy right?
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 2/7/2010 4:24:45 AM | message detail
Based on extrapolating Cloud/Ridley and Leon/Vault Boy, it seems that Vault Boy should break 30% on Cloud. I'm not buying that, so there's proof for a Ridley boost.

Please stop.
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 2/7/2010 5:20:45 AM | message detail
What was so bad about that post?
Biolizard28 | Posted 2/7/2010 5:31:08 AM | message detail
So does this mean Vault Boy might be worth having back in the field?
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Lightslayer987 | Posted 2/7/2010 5:35:39 AM | message detail
So, the question must be asked, I think.

Riku got 39.31% on Leon in round 1 last contest, and Vault Boy here has 39.16% and is still rising. So...

Vault Boy or Riku?
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 2/7/2010 5:48:59 AM | message detail

From: LinkMarioSamus | #218
What was so bad about that post?


Because you seriously do not know how to evaluate new characters.
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Lightslayer987 | Posted 2/7/2010 5:53:16 AM | message detail
lol is vault boy seriously losing the morning vote to a RE character
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charmander6000 | Posted 2/7/2010 6:22:18 AM | message detail
2005 Vincent was crazy. After he destroyed Kerrigan and people thought he could win the contest Dante supporters had an extremely uphill battle to fight. Those flame wars were crazy, if you thought World of Warcraft in 2009 was bad then you haven't seen the topics leading up to the match.
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charmander6000 | Posted 2/7/2010 6:23:22 AM | message detail
lol is vault boy seriously losing the morning vote to a RE character

Leon isn't that bad compare to other RE characters. Same reason why KHII didn't steamroll RE4 in the games contest.
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Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 2/7/2010 6:25:53 AM | message detail
No-one answered my question,Sack vs Kratos who wins?Sack?
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charmander6000 | Posted 2/7/2010 6:29:21 AM | message detail
According to the board Kratos Aurion is the favourite. I guess people feel more comfortable with established strength than unknown strength.
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ZFS | Posted 2/7/2010 6:30:06 AM | message detail
Sackboy got this

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Swarles_Barkley | Posted 2/7/2010 6:31:23 AM | message detail
Has there been a match yet where the winner won every single area in the world? Cloud seems to have gotten the closest as far as I can tell, but he didn't quite manage it.
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Denzokuken | Posted 2/7/2010 6:32:43 AM | message detail
Kratos A. doesn't have established strength, he has established weakness. Give me the boy of Sack.
charmander6000 | Posted 2/7/2010 6:36:38 AM | message detail
Has there been a match yet where the winner won every single area in the world? Cloud seems to have gotten the closest as far as I can tell, but he didn't quite manage it.

Cloud and Chris were both the closest.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 2/7/2010 6:39:34 AM | message detail

From: Safer Sephiroth 777 | #225
No-one answered my question,Sack vs Kratos who wins?Sack?


The favorite here is Kratos A since established fodder has been doing well (Laharl, Isaac, Ratchet) in fodder/fodder matches. Of course, some of us have Sackboy winning as well.

I still think Sackboy can boost above Kratos A. Kratos A isn't exactly The Boss, and Sackboy stands out a bit more than Kratos A. Then again, I doubt even with getting LBP since 2008 that Sackboy will get a bigger boost than Drake.

Now to do what I should've done earlier and do some research!

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3263

Hmmm. 44.25% on Wesker, while Lloyd, who's weaker than Kratos A got 55% on him in 2005. Of course, ToS hasn't been getting any stronger (though neither was Wesker until RE5), while Sackboy finally got a game and may have an excuse being weak with Snake being in the poll.

At the very least, it's going to be close. I don't see Kratos A winning by over 53% here.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 2/7/2010 6:41:30 AM | message detail
Meanwhile, let's look at Kratos!

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2091

Obvious overperformance by confused FFX fans!

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2866

Not a bad performance.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3258

That, however...
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charmander6000 | Posted 2/7/2010 6:45:23 AM | message detail
Match XLVI: (6) Sackboy vs. (11) Kratos Aurion

Information

Name: Sackboy
Game/Series: LittleBigPlanet
Previous Contest: 2008
Performance: 4th in round 1

Name: Kratos Aurion
Game/Series: Tales of Symphonia
Previous Contest: 2008
Performance: 4th in round 1

Analysis

It’s been a few matches, but we have finally reached our next debated match and with the next one being almost a week away people are hoping that the match will at least be interesting. On one side we have a character who he and his game has never been given a proper match and on the other we have probably the strongest Tales character who despite that title has yet to win a match, will this year be different?

In 2008 Sackboy was the first character to have a match despite not having a game released. The guy only had hype to work with and to make matters worse one of his opponents was Solid Snake. Back in 2008 one of the few reasons to own a Playstation 3 was to play Metal Gear Solid 4 which means whatever hype Sackboy had in that match went to Solid Snake. Even in the games contest LittleBigPlanet had the worst luck by being given Metal Gear Solid 4 as an opponent.

Last year Kratos Aurion was embarrassed last year by taking fourth. One could blame Falcon and Diddy Kong for his performance, but at the same time one must realized that those two characters probably overlapped with themselves more than they did with Kratos. Tales of Symphonia may have had an impressive performance, but we already know that the characters suffer from ensemble cast syndrome.

So what does this all add up to? Kratos Aurion is the favourite going into the match with Sackboy having a chance to either upset the guy or be crushed by him. Sackboy has a very distinct design that is recognizable to the masses while Tales of Symphonia continues to age. I’m going with the upset, but like I said Kratos is the safe bet.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Sackboy > Kratos Aurion

charmander6000’s Prediction: Sackboy wins, 52.63% - 47.37%

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HaRRicH | Posted 2/7/2010 7:08:33 AM | message detail
Not bad, Vault Boy.


I'll have to miss the beginning of Sackboy/KA, but this is one of my most anticipated matches (which is weird considering I never played either of their games). Time to see what goes down.
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GrapefruitKing | Posted 2/7/2010 7:16:17 AM | message detail
This poll suddenly makes me feel way better about having Sackboy winning

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3360
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 2/7/2010 7:17:38 AM | message detail
I picked Kratos Aurion to win because Tales of Symphonia finished far ahead of LittleBigPlanet in the x-stats. I'll be very glad if Sackboy wins though!
Lightslayer987 | Posted 2/7/2010 7:18:11 AM | message detail

From: LinkMarioSamus | #236
I picked Kratos Aurion to win because Tales of Symphonia finished far ahead of LittleBigPlanet in the x-stats. I'll be very glad if Sackboy wins though!


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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 2/7/2010 7:29:04 AM | message detail
I picked Sackboy because lol tales of symphonia characters
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Denzokuken | Posted 2/7/2010 7:38:50 AM | message detail
Man, I wish I could say I have a feeling that Sackboy's gonna own this poll to a 60-40 victory, but I don't. Something seems off; maybe it's Drake's loss, but I just can't place too much faith in PS3-exclusive characters right now. Come on Sack, ride the charm vote to victory!
TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 2/7/2010 7:43:44 AM | message detail
It worked for Ratchet!
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charmander6000 | Posted 2/7/2010 7:45:06 AM | message detail
Nathan Drake is a bit different than Sackboy. You can like Uncharted without liking Nathan while I find it hard to believe people like LittleBigPlanet without liking Sackboy.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 2/7/2010 7:46:44 AM | message detail
People don't like Nathan Drake? Jerks.
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EternalxCourage | Posted 2/7/2010 7:50:38 AM | message detail
There are a few moves that hit during dig (such as earthquake, obvi.)

But they're both 100% accuracy. o.O
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EternalxCourage | Posted 2/7/2010 7:51:22 AM | message detail
Also with a ground type pokemon using EQ it gets boosted to 150 BP because of STAB.
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EternalxCourage | Posted 2/7/2010 7:51:50 AM | message detail
How do you like Uncharted without liking Drake? Serious?
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charmander6000 | Posted 2/7/2010 7:55:45 AM | message detail
There are a few moves that hit during dig (such as earthquake, obvi.)

Not in RBY, that started in later gens.


But they're both 100% accuracy. o.O

Fly/Dig automatically causes to move to miss by rigging the RNG, Swift hits because it is programmed to skip the RNG all together. Also 100% moves have a 1/255 chance of missing in RBY because of a programming error


Also with a ground type pokemon using EQ it gets boosted to 150 BP because of STAB.

So does Dig.

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Denzokuken | Posted 2/7/2010 7:56:37 AM | message detail
I just thought...Stephen Fry is the narrator of Little Big Planet. Fry is one of the biggest names on Twitter with millions of followers, now if he could rally on there for Sackboy the victory would be in no doubt! I hereby christen this Stephen Fry Factor, or SFF for short.
charmander6000 | Posted 2/7/2010 8:00:58 AM | message detail
Despite links to Facebook and Twitter when you vote I haven't seen any massive rallying yet.
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EternalxCourage | Posted 2/7/2010 8:01:18 AM | message detail
I didn't realize we were talking solely about RBY.

He's playing emerald isn't he? Those mechanics were implemented at that point already.
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red sox 777 | Posted 2/7/2010 8:05:01 AM | message detail
L-Block got 46% and then 44% on Crono last year, in 4-ways, so he'd probably have a lot of difficulty breaking 40% 1v1. Missingno would probably have to be stronger than L-Block to hit 40% here. The vote-in poll was highly impressive, but then, what do you think L would have gotten in that poll?
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