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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 819

Fayt_Esteed | Posted 2/5/2010 4:55:23 PM | message detail
That said, how has Sonic team confirmed it's '4 way suckiness'? Tails held Kratos down fairly well, Dissidia boost put Cecil up there with Knux, and Lightning is completely untested.

Lightning, as of now, is no different from Sackboy. And she still embarrassed Sonic. Tails is one of the weakest characters ever, and the reason that he did so well on Kratos is a Kratos flop.
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EternalxCourage | Posted 2/5/2010 4:56:02 PM | message detail
Lol is account for all of it. 'does account'

Ugh, I'm getting off the computer for a while.
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EternalxCourage | Posted 2/5/2010 4:57:19 PM | message detail
Like I said -- you guys are unwilling to look at possibilities of characters being a certain strength, so you automatically try and say their opponent is weak.

Again, explain to me how there is no way for Lightning to have strength? What prevents her from say, being as strong as Cid?
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XxSoulxX | Posted 2/5/2010 4:58:58 PM | message detail
The fact that Cid is a video game character, and not just featured in a couple of videos/pictures/reviews.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/5/2010 4:59:34 PM | message detail
Lightning is probably already above the fodder line as it is, but don't go crazy trying to make her too strong.
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KanzarisKelshen | Posted 2/5/2010 5:02:28 PM | message detail
Squall would definitely demolish Sonic. This is not at all arguable, because you have to consider that he came within 3% of Sonic's % on Snake in 2k6, got very close to him after Brawl hype in 2k7, and has had no reason to drop thanks to Dissidia and the PSN release of FF8. Remember, 2k7 R1 Sonic wasn't just bad: he was *pathetic*. 2k8 Sonic was close to those levels too. Consider that so far Needlemouse hasn't built up ANY hype, and if Squall and Sonic met tomorrow, I'd take Squall to obliterate the Blue Blur on a match of any length except for the morning vote.

PS: Saying Lightning has no strength is moronic, though. FFXIII might be FF: Death Magnetic edition, but a sell-in still sells, and it still gives strength to its lead. I'd take her over several midcarders in a heartbeat.
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KanzarisKelshen | Posted 2/5/2010 5:03:39 PM | message detail
*Several LOW midcarders, I meant. Definitely not someone like Yoshi, Ryu, or the like.
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voltch | Posted 2/5/2010 5:05:38 PM | message detail
pff, Lightning this, lightning that, just wait till Snow becomes the new squall.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/5/2010 5:06:30 PM | message detail
Snow looks pretty cool, actually. He reminds me of Zell, for some reason.
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Lieutenant Kettch | Posted 2/5/2010 5:09:53 PM | message detail
Tifa is definitely NOT that good. She couldn't come too close to Sonic in 2k5, and she's got less stuff than Squall since and less innate strength than Vincent.

Eh, Tifa's 2k5 match against Sonic happened before Advent Children, while Vincent's 2k5 Crono match happened after it. It's a little hard to compare them. The only other Tifa matches we have were the wacky Female bracket and a couple Sephiroth SFF matches. I would probably take Vincent over her, but that match is hardly set in stone.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/5/2010 5:10:26 PM | message detail
Vincent almost certainly wins over Tifa, but I think she can keep it within 55/45.
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red sox 777 | Posted 2/5/2010 5:12:24 PM | message detail
Curt- remember most people here do have Sonic winning his division. Most of us at least have not demoted him to midcarder.
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voltch | Posted 2/5/2010 5:22:44 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #208
Snow looks pretty cool, actually. He reminds me of Zell, for some reason.


Zell for 2k11, he'll be so strong we'll have 8 it's not fair FF character shouldn't be in the contest topics, swiftly followed by topics with such great ideas as, hey why don't we have a bracket filled to the brim with fodder, so cool we'll have a contest with interesting matches like Agent 47 vs tanner and Sandal vs Claptrap.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/5/2010 5:23:37 PM | message detail
http://www.vg247.com/2010/02/05/rumor-sonic-to-appear-in-super-mario-galaxy-2/

...So what would we think about Sonic's strength if this rumor turned out to be true?
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KamikazePotato | Posted 2/5/2010 5:24:21 PM | message detail
Well let's look at how much Brawl ended up doing for Sonic and how popular Galaxy is on this site

oh wait

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voltch | Posted 2/5/2010 5:24:57 PM | message detail
if it's a scene stealing 15 min cameo, Sonic to boost by 2% on Link, which puts around, where?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/5/2010 5:26:29 PM | message detail
Sonic to be the main villain of Galaxy 2!
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voltch | Posted 2/5/2010 5:28:43 PM | message detail
aw mama! That'd put SNOIC above Megaman for sure.
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EternalxCourage | Posted 2/5/2010 5:30:05 PM | message detail
Lol Sonic and Mario side by side. What is the world coming to?

Also Snow is already my favorite character from FFXIII and if he lives up to the hype I've created for him he'll be my favorite FF character period.
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KanzarisKelshen | Posted 2/5/2010 5:32:29 PM | message detail

From: voltch | Posted: 2/5/2010 8:05:38 PM | #208
pff, Lightning this, lightning that, just wait till Snow becomes the new squall.


Snow could be a bit like a Cid that lives up to expectations to me. His design is odd, but he gives me the same badass vibes for some reason.
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 2/5/2010 6:04:48 PM | message detail
new rate the match pics. boring ones, though:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=53381324
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 2/5/2010 6:05:16 PM | message detail
Also, Chris vs MacMillan is now officially the lowest rated pic. hells yeah
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vcharon | Posted 2/5/2010 6:09:01 PM | message detail
Sega noticed Sonic was endangering the Noble Nine and pulled out all the stops! Sonic 4 and SMG2.
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red sox 777 | Posted 2/5/2010 6:33:57 PM | message detail
By the way, either Nintendo or Gamefaqs plans for these contests, or Cloud is the most unlucky contestant ever. He's faced Link and Mario 1v1 a total of 5 times, and in 2 out of those 5 matches, major new games (SMS and TP) were released for the Nintendo character on the day of the match. In the entire span of 1v1 contests prior to this one, only 3 main line Mario or Zelda games were released......and 2 of them just happened to be on days when their respective star was facing Cloud on Gamefaqs!
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 2/5/2010 6:51:16 PM | message detail
Link wouldve won anyways without TP

goddamn 8.8 was some of the worst BAWWing around.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/5/2010 6:58:59 PM | message detail
Fact/Fiction: Riku doubles Ramza
Fact/Fiction: Captain Falcon triples Wander
Fact/Fiction: Tomorrow is the most boring day of the contest
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Lightslayer987 | Posted 2/5/2010 7:13:00 PM | message detail
Fact. Easily
Fact. Easily
Fiction. Link > Cloud will be
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EternalxCourage | Posted 2/5/2010 7:15:46 PM | message detail
Link won't make it there. Sonic 4 means Sonic > Link. Upset of the century.
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 2/5/2010 7:16:54 PM | message detail
Fact/Fiction: Riku doubles Ramza
Fact/Fiction: Captain Falcon triples Wander
Fact/Fiction: Tomorrow is the most boring day of the contest


Fact. I mean Ramza lost to Laharl and Hogger, Riku is at least respectable.
Fiction. As much as it pains me, I just dont see Falcon getting high 70's/80's agianst someone. Hell Wander must be doing something right if he keeps coming back in <_<
....Probably Fact
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 2/5/2010 7:24:14 PM | message detail
Fact/Fiction: Riku doubles Ramza
Fact/Fiction: Captain Falcon triples Wander
Fact/Fiction: Tomorrow is the most boring day of the contest


Fact. Ramza lost to Hogger and nearly lost to LAHARL. Riku wouldn't break a sweat against those scrubs and is at least respectable.
Fact. Wander almost got tripled by GlaDOS. Though it's a wonder he even is allowed in the contest year after year...
Fact. It'll most likely be a yawner.
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 2/5/2010 7:25:19 PM | message detail
Faaaaact
Faaaaaaaaact
Faaaaaaaaaaaact
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Magic8Squall | Posted 2/5/2010 7:29:18 PM | message detail
By the way, I'm kinda disappointed in Chris's performance here. I thought he'd get 70% for sure.
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Magic8Squall | Posted 2/5/2010 7:31:02 PM | message detail
And I really hope Ramza pulls a Cecil/Wesker and gives us an unexpectedly close match tomorrow. He'll probably get killed, unfortunately, but it would be awesome if he could make it close!
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 2/5/2010 7:31:35 PM | message detail
Wait, he beat Laharl?

I couldve sworn he lost to him.




point still stands, He lost to Hogger
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ObJECHTion | Posted 2/5/2010 7:33:04 PM | message detail
i'm almost certain tomorrows match will be at least close like 55% - 45% or lower
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Lightslayer987 | Posted 2/5/2010 7:34:34 PM | message detail

From: ObJECHTion | #235
i'm almost certain tomorrows match will be at least close like 55% - 45% or lower


uhh do you mean tomorrows as in wander/falcon?

cuz there is no way falcon is only getting 55% unless he's super fodder
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red sox 777 | Posted 2/5/2010 7:37:03 PM | message detail
Falcon 2008 lines up really poorly with Falcon 2006-7. Probably just a case of lol 4way stats.
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ObJECHTion | Posted 2/5/2010 7:37:18 PM | message detail
riku/ramza

falcon is gonna crush him
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 2/5/2010 7:38:13 PM | message detail
Ramza needed a rally to stay ahead of LAHARL. Riku is going to kill him.
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Magic8Squall | Posted 2/5/2010 7:39:46 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #237
Falcon 2008 lines up really poorly with Falcon 2006-7. Probably just a case of lol 4way stats.


Falcon 2007 and 2008 have so much LFF in them that there's no point in even looking at them. He's probably stronger than the guy who got tripled by Crono now, thanks to Brawl, but I doubt it's a whole lot more.
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CP724 | Posted 2/5/2010 7:41:57 PM | message detail
Please don't submit smiling Squall.
ExThaNemesis | Posted 2/5/2010 7:44:29 PM | message detail

From: EternalxCourage | #228
Link won't make it there. Sonic 4 means Sonic > Link. Upset of the century.


hahahahAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 2/5/2010 7:49:21 PM | message detail
riku/ramza

This? Close? What. Ramza needed a rally to avoid losing to LAHARL. Riku will crush him.
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charmander6000 | Posted 2/5/2010 7:52:03 PM | message detail
Match XLIII: (5) Riku vs. (12) Ramza Beoulve

Information

Name: Riku
Game/Series: Kingdom Hearts
Previous Contest: 2008
Performance: 3rd in round 2

Name: Ramza Beoulve
Game/Series: Final Fantasy Tactics
Previous Contest: 2008
Performance: 3rd in round 1

Analysis

Another simple match, both characters were from the same eight-pack with one clearly being stronger than the other and with nothing new for the weaker character. The only thing worth discussing is the possibility of SFF and what kind of percent Riku finishes with.

Time was terrible to Ramza in his return in the previous contest. Roughly equalling to Laharl and losing to a World of Warcraft raid was nowhere close to his performance against Kirby in 2003. The games contest showed further proof of his decline with the once equal Metal Gear Solid destroying its former opponent in the first round.

Some people say that SFF is possible since both characters are Square, but I think the SFF will be minimal or even non-existent. Riku and Ramza have nothing in common. Ramza has never been in a Kingdom Hearts game and was only really popular in the original Playstation. Also his game has little to do with Final Fantasy and was more of a game that was given that title so that it can sell more copies meaning I believe fewer Final Fantasy fans played this game relative to other titles.

Since the previous contest Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days has been released though looking at Roxas’ match it doesn’t seem like it did anything for him. Heavy may have had reason to boost, but Riku’s involvement in the game makes me feel that any kind of boost would be minimal at best.

Riku shouldn’t have a problem winning though he needs to put up at least a decent performance due to Captain Falcon waiting in the sidelines for an upset. Ramza I feel could have been a decent entrant had he participated in earlier contests, but today all he does is fill out the roll of fodder.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Riku > Ramza Beoulve

charmander6000’s Prediction: Riku wins, 65.93% - 34.07%

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Master Moltar | Posted 2/5/2010 7:54:27 PM | message detail
Midgar Division: Round 1 - Match 43 – (5) Riku vs. (12) Ramza Beoulve

Moltar’s Analysis

Riku
I bet this guy is actually Sora too.

Ramza
Ramza, that sounds awfully close to Sora!

Riku is the second strongest KH character and a solid midcarder. Ramza lost to Hogger and barely beat Laharl in 2008. I think you know who the winner will be too.

Moltar’s Bracket: Riku > Ramza

Moltar’s Prediction: Riku: 66% - Ramza: 34%



Lopen’s Analysis

We all saw Ramza suck ass last year. He almost lost to Laharl. Even his much better game didn't do so hot. Riku's clearly on a "completely different level" at this point. The only thing that's interesting here is to see how good Ramza looks with it being a night match. I'm thinking "not so good" seeing as Riku's night vote isn't garbage either.

Buttpants your way out of here.

(Better write-ups starting tomorrow...! ... maybe. <_<)

Lopen's prediction:
Riku with 59.35%



Transience’s Analysis

God damn, worst picture ever. Riku looks stupid and Ramza looks.. well, like Ramza.

That's about the only notable thing here. Ramza lost last year to something called Hogger and almost lost to Laharl. Riku had a nice performance in his last 1v1 against Yoshi but has looked pretty average ever since. Riku is the clear winner here, but by how much?

I think by a lot. I have never had respect for Ramza's contest strength. He got wiped by Kirby during Square's best year and has looked bad ever since. Riku may not be great, but at least he's relevant: Ramza is the definition of niche these days. Zidane would crush him.

Riku will, too.

transience's prediction: Riku with 67.99%



Ngamer’s Analysis

Fantastical writeup coming soon!

Ngamer Says: Riku > Ramza, 63.39%



Kleenex’s Analysis

You know, I guess it's a good thing that Ramza will never win a match, because the dude appears to have only one picture. Ramza somehow manages to make it into the contest again this year, after an embarassing loss to Hogger last time. Sora and Roxas have both looked pretty good so far this year, and Riku was already a number of steps ahead of Ramza in the first place, so this will be an easy win for the dude.

Hey guys, stop nominating Ramza and nominate Gilgamesh instead. Thanks.


Bracket: Riku
Favorites: Riku
Prediction: Riku with 65.55%



Red Sox’s Analysis

We have a very long stretch of boring matches ahead of us, reminiscent of the Female Bracket. This bracket started off well, but now I’m wishing that we had switched a few of those interesting matches from the first few divisions to the next week. Riku looked great in 2006, and looked like he fell off considerably in the last 2 years of 4-ways, but it shouldn’t matter, because he has an easy win over Ramza.

Once upon a time in the land of SquareFAQs before the rise of Nintendo, Ramza lost to Kirby. More recently, Ramza lost to Hogger and barely beat Laharl. The night match will help a bit…..maybe he can escape the doubling.

Prediction: Riku with 66.50%
Upset Potential: 0%
Upper Bound: Riku with 72.00%
Lower Bound: Riku with 61.00%
Master Moltar | Posted 2/5/2010 7:54:42 PM | message detail
Guest’s Analysis - marsman57

This is a fairly straightforward match as well as Sora's match. Riku pretty much has a lock on it as far as I am concerned. I can see it as feasible for him to make it to Cloud before jobbing out.

While Final Fantasy Tactics had a very impressive showing against Metal Gear Solid in 2004, Ramza himself has never won anything. He lost to Kirby in 2003 with an almost identical percentage as Tidus did in 2005 and Rikku did this year. This might trick you into thinking the three characters have equal strength since, I may be wrong, but I think Kirby's popularity over the years has been pretty consistent. Also, this is interesting as Rikku did put up 58.28% on Kairi in 2006.

Let us not kid ourselves though, Riku is easily much more powerful than Kairi and Ramza is almost equally weaker than Rikku if they met in a match. Also, remember that Ramza only barely outdid Laharl of all people in 4-way competition.

Contest-wise Riku has relatively strong showings against Frog and Yoshi under his belt as well as making it to third round in 2007.

This is a night vote which I think will give Ramza a bit of a boost, but not enough to overcome.

Bracket: Riku
Prediction: Riku 55.3% (+/-5%)



Crew Consensus: Riku unleashes the power of DARKNESS to beat Ramza…in a night match.
ZenOfThunder | Posted 2/5/2010 8:13:52 PM | message detail
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/5963/riku4.png

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Magic8Squall | Posted 2/5/2010 8:21:20 PM | message detail
I guess it's a good thing that Ramza will never win a match, because the dude appears to have only one picture.

Bah, I tried to submit a picture of non-girly Ramza, but of course, Bacon didn't pick it!
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 2/5/2010 8:22:31 PM | message detail
http://planetrenders.net/renders/albums/userpics/213510/zeldafacepalm.png

god dammit I wish I found that earlier
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 2/5/2010 8:47:51 PM | message detail
At least use http://www.finalfantasytr.com/artwork/artworkler/Akihiko_Y/fftactics/karakterler/ramza01.jpg for Ramza or something I mean come on, that pony tail X_X
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