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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 818
Karma Hunter | Posted 2/5/2010 5:46:25 AM | message detail |
All good points to consider in these harsh economic times. --- turnturnturn your brain in http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/020/b/f/Ariel_by_lolita_art.jpg |
hellfire104 | Posted 2/5/2010 5:46:25 AM | message detail |
I think that this match is obviously over. It was over at 12:15. Let's discuss the next one. RE5 Boost anyone? --- Point Total: 34/40 My Bracket Says: Night: Cloud Day: Chris |
paulg235 | Posted 2/5/2010 5:46:56 AM | message detail |
What kind of sick person anti-votes a character? --- The Gamer In Me My Signature's broken, just like your front door. |
KamikazePotato | Posted 2/5/2010 5:47:09 AM | message detail |
Also,
speaking on a more serious note (outside of just going 'Cloud sux')
this match is pretty inexcusable. Say what you will about a Brawl boost
or anti-votes or whatever, but Ridley has always looked like crap. He
did worse on Diablo than Kefka, got 37% on Vivi. You know, Vivi? The
guy Sephiroth got 71% on? The same % Cloud is getting on Ridley right now? And that's without the ASV to send him back down. FF7, or at the very least Cloud, has pretty clearly lost a step, if the Games Contest didn't make that clear enough. --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
paulg235 | Posted 2/5/2010 5:49:38 AM | message detail |
From: KamikazePotato | #304 Because Vivi clearly wasn't SFF'ed by the franchises' 2nd strongest character. --- The Gamer In Me My Signature's broken, just like your front door. |
KamikazePotato | Posted 2/5/2010 5:51:49 AM | message detail |
Vivi's 2k4 stats and performance line up perfectly with all of his other stats and performances. If you want a more direct comparisan, Ridley put up 32% against Leon Kennedy. He's currently putting up 29% against Cloud. --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
Denzokuken | Posted 2/5/2010 5:53:30 AM | message detail |
FF7, or at the very least Cloud, has pretty clearly lost a step, if the Games Contest didn't make that clear enough. I wasn't aware of this. Is there any evidence from Games 2009 (other than, obviously, Ocarina boosting in line with NintendoFAQs and beating it handily) of an FFVII deboost? |
KamikazePotato | Posted 2/5/2010 5:54:55 AM | message detail |
...uh, you mean besides it getting its ass handed to it by OoT? http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2186 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3552 --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
Denzokuken | Posted 2/5/2010 5:55:45 AM | message detail |
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Lightning Strikes | Posted 2/5/2010 5:55:54 AM | message detail |
Again, the picture matters. Until now Ridley's always got his horrible red Super Metroid artwork, which looks nothing like him. Now he has a good one, from his most recent incarnation, he's doing well. Looks like Ridley is one of the pic-dependent characters. I'd say this isn't so much Cloud underperforming as Ridley overperforming. |
Chaotic Mind | Posted 2/5/2010 5:57:23 AM | message detail |
Enough about Cloud, he's going to lose to Link, which everyone should have known before this contest started. How about the next match? Is Cap. Macmillan in Modern Warfare 2, or does he only have Call of Duty 4? --- "The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it." - George Bernard Shaw |
Achromatic | Posted 2/5/2010 5:57:52 AM | message detail |
I
don't think there is much to gain from this match, honestly. Although
the result of this match fits many of my "factors" I have noted every
now and then over the years which are constantly dismissed! I posted this in the wrong topic, I hate when I do that. --- "Because some charities are corrupt." -bobby1986 on why it is better to give to the church instead of a charity. Sir Chris |
KamikazePotato | Posted 2/5/2010 5:57:56 AM | message detail |
I
read it. The point is moot. FF7 was still the vast majority bracket
pick simply because it had won very convincingly (54-46) the first time
around, Nintendo boost be damned. It flopped, plain and simple. Between
that, the polls I posted, and FF7's day vote getting worse and
worse...yeah. --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
Swif7y | Posted 2/5/2010 5:58:36 AM | message detail |
say what you want but pictures matter, folks. dissidia cloud vs. badass ridley pic one day and cloud wins just 73-27. dissida cloud vs. communist ridley pic one day and I bet cloud wins by more than 73-27. i wish bacon would run an experiment on this after the contest is done. |
Swif7y | Posted 2/5/2010 6:00:45 AM | message detail |
it's either that or alot of people are dragon fans and would vote them over anything. see: charizard nominate bahamut next contest imo! |
Denzokuken | Posted 2/5/2010 6:01:05 AM | message detail |
I've never played it, not even once 29.17% 29796 nice. 71% of the site are voting for Cloud, 29% have never played FF7...that means everyone who played FFVII is voting for Cloud! ...But seriously, I don't think playership polls mean too much. It's not like FF7 didn't still demolish everything else a la 2004 on its way to the final, and this match really doesn't prove anything. In fact I think it'll take until round 4 before we can speak clearly of a significant Cloud drop (even I'm not deluded enough to argue he's as strong as he was in 2003, but not by much). |
KamikazePotato | Posted 2/5/2010 6:01:30 AM | message detail |
I love Charizard to death and voted for Cloud here Who likes Ridley, anyway --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
Lightning Strikes | Posted 2/5/2010 6:01:44 AM | message detail |
The
main problem with FF7 is that ultimately it is just one game, rather
than a series. A series can constantly recruit new fans while a single
game has a harder time doing so. Yes it has spinoffs and such but these
are purely fanservice and won't bring in many new players. As a result
FF7 is weakening gradually, and the same can be seen with Chrono
Trigger. KP is right there, though I maintain that this is Ridley looking good rather than Cloud looking bad. |
Achromatic | Posted 2/5/2010 6:01:48 AM | message detail |
Ridley is pretty awesome. --- Winner of two Mafia Player of the Year Boardys Sir Chris |
vcharon | Posted 2/5/2010 6:02:43 AM | message detail |
The
games contest was nothing more than the character contest with games
stuck in front of it. It's not like Link is some deep or meaningful
character. People vote Link because he's in Legend of Zelda, that's not
breaking news. If Link has been kicking Cloud's ass in the final for
years then obviously FF7 was going to have its ass kicked. That's not
evidence of "losing a step". --- :> |
Lightning Strikes | Posted 2/5/2010 6:02:59 AM | message detail |
Also Ridley>>Charizard |
Achromatic | Posted 2/5/2010 6:03:01 AM | message detail |
I
think next round will be a good gauge. I have always argued that
Square/Nintendo matches are often times weird due to fanbase shifts and
polarization, but no one likes to listen to me. Also uh I think Chris
vs Cloud next round will enlighten us a fair bit. --- Why does Final Fantasy 7 win every year? Geesh you'd think people would give Zelda a try. Sir Chris |
Denzokuken | Posted 2/5/2010 6:03:41 AM | message detail |
Is Cap. Macmillan in Modern Warfare 2, or does he only have Call of Duty 4? Just the latter, though Soap's personality in Modern Warfare 2 was certainly based off of him. |
Achromatic | Posted 2/5/2010 6:03:43 AM | message detail |
From: vcharon | #320 ... Given that Cloud/FF7 won back to back, not exactly a bad theory. --- Winner of two Mafia Player of the Year Boardys Sir Chris |
KamikazePotato | Posted 2/5/2010 6:03:45 AM | message detail |
Considering
how much RE seems to be on steroids, it might not. We have no idea
where Chris stands at the moment, and The Swamp Thing isn't going to
help us with that. --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 2/5/2010 6:03:47 AM | message detail |
From: Achromatic | #300 When he's facing a superior character like Snake. --- Currently 17th on the CBVIII Leaderboard ^_^ Current Pick: Zack Fair rip-off |
Achromatic | Posted 2/5/2010 6:04:49 AM | message detail |
From: TheKoolAidShoto | #326 Your response doesn't make sense! --- Winner of two Mafia Player of the Year Boardys Sir Chris |
Lightning Strikes | Posted 2/5/2010 6:05:11 AM | message detail |
The
games contest was nothing more than the character contest with games
stuck in front of it. It's not like Link is some deep or meaningful
character. People vote Link because he's in Legend of Zelda, that's not
breaking news. If Link has been kicking Cloud's ass in the final for
years then obviously FF7 was going to have its ass kicked. That's not
evidence of "losing a step". Link is stronger than his series. People like Link. I mean he's a total badass in every incarnation. What's not to like? |
Achromatic | Posted 2/5/2010 6:05:29 AM | message detail |
From: Lightning Strikes | #328 Link is not stronger than his series. --- Why does Final Fantasy 7 win every year? Geesh you'd think people would give Zelda a try. Sir Chris |
vcharon | Posted 2/5/2010 6:05:59 AM | message detail |
Well, if you don't value any sort of personality or storyline if your characters, nothing. --- :> |
Karma Hunter | Posted 2/5/2010 6:06:08 AM | message detail |
The
games contest was nothing more than the character contest with games
stuck in front of it. It's not like Link is some deep or meaningful
character. People vote Link because he's in Legend of Zelda, that's not
breaking news. If Link has been kicking Cloud's ass in the final for
years then obviously FF7 was going to have its ass kicked. That's not
evidence of "losing a step". The year that FF7 won the Games Contest was the *exact* same year that Link took back the title from Cloud - 2004. It's the narrowest loss Cloud's ever had to Link, but let's not overstate things here; FF7 would've won on that day. --- turnturnturn your brain in http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/020/b/f/Ariel_by_lolita_art.jpg |
TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 2/5/2010 6:06:14 AM | message detail |
From: Lightning Strikes | #328 Probably the whole "Looking like an unholy cross between Pinocchio and Peter Pan" thing --- holy crap, you used an apostrophe to make a word plural at least 3 times in that post. that's like cryptonite to me if I was batman - Bako Ikporamee |
Lightning Strikes | Posted 2/5/2010 6:07:58 AM | message detail |
Well, if you don't value any sort of personality or storyline if your characters, nothing. lol, ignorance. That's all I'm saying to that. |
Achromatic | Posted 2/5/2010 6:08:33 AM | message detail |
From: Karma Hunter | #331 I agree, but I think Cloud lost to Link that year because of anti-votes for him winning + FF7 winning. It might have won, but after that it was clear LoZ and Link had taken back his crown. --- Why does Final Fantasy 7 win every year? Geesh you'd think people would give Zelda a try. Sir Chris |
TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 2/5/2010 6:08:50 AM | message detail |
Anyway,
steroid-infused RE5 Chris better treat Macmillian like he did that
boulder. I suspect he's gonna be closer to 70% than 65% once its over. --- holy crap, you used an apostrophe to make a word plural at least 3 times in that post. that's like cryptonite to me if I was batman - Bako Ikporamee |
vcharon | Posted 2/5/2010 6:09:08 AM | message detail |
Ignorance? Yeah, obviously charon hasn't played Zelda either. I mean really, where does it end with you guys? --- :> |
Achromatic | Posted 2/5/2010 6:09:13 AM | message detail |
From: Lightning Strikes | #333 Man LS, I've known you for years now, and your opinions and arguments are never very keen. Then again, saying Cloud is the best character isn't exactly clever either. DQV Hero stomps everyone. --- Winner of two Mafia Player of the Year Boardys Sir Chris |
vcharon | Posted 2/5/2010 6:12:47 AM | message detail |
For the record, I like the series
but I'm not going to say Link is some sort of valuable character. He's
an archetype. If he's against an archetype I like less than "noble hero
who does what he's told" then I'll vote for him, or if he's against a
character I just particularly don't like. But that's as far as it goes. I try to vote for the character, not the series. Most people who vote for Link are very likely not doing that. --- :> |
Lightning Strikes | Posted 2/5/2010 6:16:02 AM | message detail |
I
could ramble for ages about Link the same way you ramble for ages about
the DQV hero. I suppose I could be what you describe as "keen"(though
you must tell me how one can call an opinion keen) but I simply do not
see the point in putting time and resources into something that will
only be read by a handful of people or ever be of any use when I could
be doing something more interesting. |
KamikazePotato | Posted 2/5/2010 6:17:27 AM | message detail |
DQV Hero>>>Link --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 2/5/2010 6:18:34 AM | message detail |
Well,
at least Cloud's broken 71% with ease, and MAY get to 72% but probably
not. It's not the greatest performance, but it looks better than it did
last night. --- "The great GF...Bahamut." "...GF? I...? Using my powers...It is you humans...I fear..." |
Achromatic | Posted 2/5/2010 6:20:18 AM | message detail |
From: Lightning Strikes | #339 The difference is I'd be more right than you. Also if you require an audience to put your effort into a hobby I feel bad for any woman you ever have sex with. --- Winner of two Mafia Player of the Year Boardys Sir Chris |
ZFS | Posted 2/5/2010 6:23:46 AM | message detail |
Yeah,
Cloud made a nice recovery here. This isn't a performance worthy of the
doom and gloom some are giving it. Did Cloud get weaker? Probably. Has
Cloud gotten weak to the point where we can talk about upsets like
Snake? No. Cloud will do what he always does in these contests -- beat
everyone until he runs into Link then crumble. --- wheresoever you go, go with all your heart |
Denzokuken | Posted 2/5/2010 6:24:33 AM | message detail |
if you require an audience to put your effort into a hobby I feel bad for any woman you ever have sex with. XD oh wow |
paulg235 | Posted 2/5/2010 6:25:33 AM | message detail |
It's still pretty bad in my eyes. 73% is where he starts looking respectable. Now let's play game. What do you think his % will be at the end of these matches? Stop when you think he finally loses. R2 (Chris Redfield) R3 (Riku/Falcon) R4 (Dante/Ryu) QF (Samus Aran) SF (Snake/Sephiroth) F (Link) --- The Gamer In Me My Signature's broken, just like your front door. |
charmander6000 | Posted 2/5/2010 6:26:54 AM | message detail |
Match XLII: (8) Chris Redfield vs. (9) Captain MacMillan Information Name: Chris Redfield Game/Series: Resident Evil Previous Contest: 2008 Performance: 3rd in round 1 Name: Captain MacMillan Game/Series: Call of Duty: Modern Warfare Previous Contest: 2008 Performance: 4th in round 1 Analysis After seeing Jill’s performance I felt really bad that both Chris and she didn’t get a better bracket position; those two could have really destroyed brackets if given the chance. I’m kind of shocked that so many people in the oracle have Chris performing so badly. I guess some of the predictions were made before Jill’s match, but some of those predictions are pretty insulting. Last year Chris should have had no problems breaking 55%. MacMillan somehow returns to the contest a year after being crushed by a Resident Evil character only to be crushed by another one. From what I can gather MacMillan isn’t even in Modern Warfare 2 so any hopes of performing better have gone down the drain. You also can’t compare Captain John Price’s performance earlier this contest because first he’s a new character and second the guy is much more prominent in the series. Chris Redfield has a pretty good performance last contest in the midst of Resident Evil 5 hype. After Jill crushed Niko a few days ago, I believe that Chris also gained a healthy boost. There’s only so much Niko could have dropped since the previous contest while Chris was the main character from that game. Comparing Chris to Leon I still expect Leon to be a bit stronger, but Chris has certainly close down the gap. Leon was able to break 75% against MacMillan last contest, since I expect Chris to be a bit weaker he’ll probably hover around the 70% mark. Imagine if he was put in the four-pack below him, I bet a bunch of people would have lost points. charmander6000’s Bracket: Chris Redfield > Captain MacMillan charmander6000’s Prediction: Chris wins, 69.37% - 30.73% --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 32/40 - Today's Winners: Cloud and Chris |
ZenOfThunder | Posted 2/5/2010 6:28:29 AM | message detail |
From: Achromatic | #342 http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/3473/fishystickx1.jpg --- (|| ' ' ||) Visio Vestri - Character Battle VIII Fanfiction Project . /|_|\ http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=53091233 |
charmander6000 | Posted 2/5/2010 6:30:14 AM | message detail |
Looks like Cloud won everywhere not even Link or Mario can say that. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3770&map=1 --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 32/40 - Today's Winners: Cloud and Chris |
Denzokuken | Posted 2/5/2010 6:31:33 AM | message detail |
There is one speck of red in Central America. Total Cloud domination thwarted! |
Lightning Strikes | Posted 2/5/2010 6:35:38 AM | message detail |
The difference is I'd be more right than you. Would you? You'd definitely think you were, but frankly everyone always thinks they're right-if they didn't, why even say anything? And naturally some people would say you were right, others would say I was right. Unless you're dealing with straight up facts, nobody can ever be more right. Also if you require an audience to put your effort into a hobby I feel bad for any woman you ever have sex with. Ehehehe Seriously though if it's something I derive pleasure from yeah I'll do it, but I'm not very big on the whole writing walls of text nobody will care about thing. The arguments are already in my mind but I know I would never change anyone's opinion on the matter, and would ultimately just be putting in a lot of effort for no reqard. If you disagree I say go for it, but that's just how I feel. More to the original point. Link is effective. That's why he's so popular. There are games which are very popular with main characters that are far less so. Tidus, for instance, is pretty hated. There a popular games with silent leads that would utterly bomb. I mean can you imagine how some of the first FF leads would do? How about that great idea to get the GTA3 guy in? There you have popular games with characters nobody would care for. But Link is different. Nobody's going to say that he's some deep, complex character. But he's a great, iconic protagonist. Fans of the series like him a lot. Sure he may have less to him than most of the rest of the field but does that really make him any worse? No. |
