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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 818

TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 2/4/2010 9:44:48 PM | message detail

From: Lopen | #149
Eh the game itself didn't look that great.


You aint kidding. That game is blocky and ugly as hell now.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 2/4/2010 9:45:06 PM | message detail
You can point at Snake, but if there is a series that has looked downright bad this contest it's Metal Gear.

Big Boss

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Not_Wylvane | Posted 2/4/2010 9:45:33 PM | message detail

From: RPGuy96 | #144
Soon, Zack will be the strongest FFVII character, and I will dance with glee.


And rightly deserved. All these years, Cloud has only been pretending to be Zack, so it's appropriate that Zack finally shows up and takes the #2 place on GameFAQs that he so rightly deserves.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 2/4/2010 9:45:54 PM | message detail
And The Boss won her match and Ocelot kept his close. Really the only MGS character who has looked bad is Liquid.

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red sox 777 | Posted 2/4/2010 9:46:01 PM | message detail
Its trends looked awful though. It went dead even with Chrono Trigger and Final Fantasy VI during the ASV. That's as bad as it gets! Trends do not equal strength, but a shift in trends implies a shift in the fanbase......and getting worse at the day vote is a sign of aging and weakening.

Also, I'm of the opinion that CT and SSBM massively overperformed on FFVII in 2004, so FFVII and OOT were always miles above the field. It was just like the Villains Contest and Female Bracket.....once OOT was out of the way, people voted against the obvious favorite en masse. CT/FFVII had ridiculous trends too that confirmed that, with CT leading for an hour and then collapsing all day, whereas OOT I think didn't even hold the lead for 5 minutes.
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vcharon | Posted 2/4/2010 9:46:07 PM | message detail
Cloud isn't going to look that bad when it's said and done I think. He's making good percentage increases at a steady rate.
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ZFS | Posted 2/4/2010 9:46:18 PM | message detail
Big Boss beating Edgeworth of all people doesn't really make up for everything else. Just like Zack doesn't really make up for FFVII looking disappointing.

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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 2/4/2010 9:46:44 PM | message detail

From: Lopen | #149
Eh the game itself didn't look that great. Still lost to Ocarina pretty decisively after 54-46ing it last contest.


But it massacred everything else to the point that FFVII/OoT was a toss-up going into their match (much like in 2004). It didn't get anywhere NEAR this level of hate. But heck, Cloud and Seph were getting tooled in the 4ways even before the game contest, so maybe the characters are faltering at an accelerated pace.

Still, we've had these talks before, and they usually just make us look silly in the end. I'll wait until Cloud gets some real competition in later rounds.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/4/2010 9:46:46 PM | message detail
Yeah, Liquid's the only MGS character who has bombed relative to expectations so far, but he's like Kefka. You never know what's going to happen when he gets in a match.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 2/4/2010 9:46:57 PM | message detail
RE5-boosted Chris to break 40% on Cloud!
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ZFS | Posted 2/4/2010 9:47:37 PM | message detail
Not that Snake is going to fall off a cliff or anything, but his peak is clearly behind him.

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 2/4/2010 9:47:38 PM | message detail
Who you got in these matches? (Full 24 hour matches)

Cloud vs. Samus
Sephiroth vs. Samus

Cloud vs. Mario
Sephiroth vs. Mario
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paulg235 | Posted 2/4/2010 9:47:40 PM | message detail

From: vcharon | #156
Cloud isn't going to look that bad when it's said and done I think. He's making good percentage increases at a steady rate.


I bet he only gains 5 more percent and that's it.
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red sox 777 | Posted 2/4/2010 9:48:42 PM | message detail
Who you got in these matches? (Full 24 hour matches)

Cloud vs. Samus
Sephiroth vs. Samus

Cloud vs. Mario
Sephiroth vs. Mario


Cloud, Sephiroth, Cloud, Sephiroth, not the least bit close.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 2/4/2010 9:48:43 PM | message detail

From: paulg235 | #163
I bet he only gains 5 more percent and that's it.


Even that might be generous. Gaining 5% is no easy feat when the match is well underway.
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paulg235 | Posted 2/4/2010 9:48:47 PM | message detail
Cloud > Seph > Samus
Cloud < Mario < Seph < Cloud...
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 2/4/2010 9:49:00 PM | message detail
I'm of the opinion that CT and SSBM massively overperformed on FFVII in 2004

I may not have been here, but I agree. How much would CT or SSBM get on FF7 if they faced it in, say, round 1?
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 2/4/2010 9:49:06 PM | message detail
The Boss and Big Boss looked fine. Ocelot and Liquid have always been huge wildcards in what they're going to do.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 2/4/2010 9:49:11 PM | message detail

From: MyWorldIsCrono | #162
Who you got in these matches? (Full 24 hour matches)

Cloud vs. Samus
Sephiroth vs. Samus

Cloud vs. Mario
Sephiroth vs. Mario


As tempted as it is to go Nintendo, I'd still go with the FF7 guys for now.

If Cloud lets Chris get 45% though, I'm so on the Samus > Cloud train!
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Lopen | Posted 2/4/2010 9:49:24 PM | message detail
How has MGS looked bad?

Ocelot narrowly lost a debated match against an unknown
The Boss won a debated match against a mostly unknown
Big Boss did what was expected

Liquid looked pretty bad but yeah. Dunno where you're going with that.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 2/4/2010 9:51:17 PM | message detail
I'd say that Cloud might get 3% from where he is now. Don't forget he STILL hasn't even gotten a 70% update. Its a lot easier to go up in percentage when you start low, as we saw with Ezio yesterday.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 2/4/2010 9:51:46 PM | message detail
How ****ing hilarious is it that the Old Square reps are currently the inarguable stars of the contest. If Terra beats Revan, they'll be locked in as the stars no matter what happens throughout the rest of the bracket.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 2/4/2010 9:53:16 PM | message detail
Well, I guess RE can still make a run as the contest star if Leon takes Dante/Ryu and if Jill/Chris do well against the Noble 9ers.

Best contest of the ever.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 2/4/2010 9:53:46 PM | message detail
How ****ing hilarious is it that the Old Square reps are currently the inarguable stars of the contest. If Terra beats Revan, they'll be locked in as the stars no matter what happens throughout the rest of the bracket.

Ahem, old Final Fantasy. We wouldn't want to group Magus and Frog with Cecil and Kefka.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 2/4/2010 9:54:12 PM | message detail
Capital point, old chap!
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vcharon | Posted 2/4/2010 9:54:21 PM | message detail
Dissidia Boost: Only when it's convenient for your argument.
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red sox 777 | Posted 2/4/2010 9:54:49 PM | message detail
You will once you see Alucard and Crono in action!

Anyway, Cloud probably ends up around 72% here, I'd guess.
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vcharon | Posted 2/4/2010 9:55:35 PM | message detail
Rockin
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 2/4/2010 9:55:43 PM | message detail
well, theres his 70% update
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 2/4/2010 9:56:35 PM | message detail
Took 55 minutes just for Cloud to break 70% on an update. We'll be seeing a lot of that overnight and Cloud might be able to shoot for 80% updates overnight.
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ZFS | Posted 2/4/2010 9:56:43 PM | message detail
I'm just saying, if FFVII is apparently on a downward spiral and has looked terrible this contest, there's no way you look at Metal Gear and go 'hey, not bad SNAKE UPSET.' In my mind, Ocelot losing to Red, The Boss barely beating Nathan Drake, and Liquid getting rocked by Altair isn't much better than Cid not meeting largely unrealistic expectations and Cloud failing to triple Ridley.

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 2/4/2010 9:57:24 PM | message detail

From: -LusterSoldier- | #180
Took 55 minutes just for Cloud to break 70% on an update. We'll be seeing a lot of that overnight and Cloud might be able to shoot for 80% updates overnight.


ehh.... 80% seems a bit out there. He should be getting 75% in the dead hours though easily
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 2/4/2010 9:57:30 PM | message detail
Because all MGS characters are created equal
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 2/4/2010 9:58:10 PM | message detail
How ****ing hilarious is it that the Old Square reps are currently the inarguable stars of the contest. If Terra beats Revan, they'll be locked in as the stars no matter what happens throughout the rest of the bracket.

For one, Arthas just might be that damn weak. And we still don't know how far Sonic Team's fallen. I'm not putting any stock if Kefka's performance until he faces Bowser.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 2/4/2010 9:59:27 PM | message detail
Sorry HM, but it's a lot better. Ocelot was a decisive underdog. Not only did he nearly pull through, but Mewtwo and especially Charizard have already begun to validate Red by having great performances. Boss's match was a 50/50 debate, and she pulled through. When it's 50/50, it's kinda hard to call a win "bad." She got the job done. Liquid bombed and I won't offer any excuses, but Big Boss had one of the round's most impressive blowouts.

MGS > FFVII pretty easily so far.
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Oranejo | Posted 2/4/2010 10:00:40 PM | message detail

From: vcharon | #176
Dissidia Boost: Only when it's convenient for your argument.


I spent a lot of time around the Dissidia board and the game did wonders for Kefka and Jecht's popularity, but Cloud's portrayal was not very popular at all. Every sentence he spoke involved a pause, and for the most part he had his Advent Children personality. He was not exactly bringing in any new fans and a lot of his old fans were upset that they decided to go the AC/KH route with him again. (myself included)
vcharon | Posted 2/4/2010 10:01:21 PM | message detail
So in other words everyone hates Cloud.

Sounds like business as usual to me.
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TheResurrECtion | Posted 2/4/2010 10:01:51 PM | message detail
samus > cloud

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zenk123 | Posted 2/4/2010 10:02:02 PM | message detail
Dissidia de-boost likely gonna apply to Terra as well.

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RPGuy96 | Posted 2/4/2010 10:02:51 PM | message detail
Last year's Cloud vs Midna:

Cloud at 01:00: 71.26%
Cloud at 12:00: 73.98%

Against Ridley:

Cloud at 01:00: 67.66%

70% should be pretty safe for Cloud but I don't think he's going much higher than 71%.
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ZFS | Posted 2/4/2010 10:03:21 PM | message detail
Big Boss's match is really the only thing that pushes in MGS's favor. The Boss, Ocelot, and Liquid weren't any more impressive than what we've seen from FFVII to me. Certainly not to the point of talking about silly Snake upsets -- but I know people like to rally behind Snake regardless of how likely it is.

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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 2/4/2010 10:04:20 PM | message detail
Mostly because we've never seen him in action yet.
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 2/4/2010 10:05:41 PM | message detail
I'm just saying, if FFVII is apparently on a downward spiral and has looked terrible this contest, there's no way you look at Metal Gear and go 'hey, not bad SNAKE UPSET.' In my mind, Ocelot losing to Red, The Boss barely beating Nathan Drake, and Liquid getting rocked by Altair isn't much better than Cid not meeting largely unrealistic expectations and Cloud failing to triple Ridley.

How is this any different than usual? Ocelot is the same guy who lost to Pac-Man and Jill the year MGS4 came out. The Boss was never that strong to begin with and Liquid loves to crap the bed. These 3 have no impact at all on the only two MGS characters that matter in these contests, Big Boss and Snake.
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HaRRicH | Posted 2/4/2010 10:06:22 PM | message detail
Yeah, MGS > FF7 so far. We put Cid on too high of a pedestal, but he still didn't do that well and Cloud really should be doing a lot better here. Ridley was expected to get 24.66% on Sephiroth in the Villain Contest, where Ganon hulked up in the championship against Seph. If Ganon should have done worse and Cloud would have done better (hint: both are true), the beating becomes worse. I'm all for SSBB boosting Ridley (don't forget he had TWO boss-fights -- the only boss with that claim, if it means anything) and we should probably give Cloud and the rest of our major players a break for R1. That said, this is still a poor performance when Cloud isn't going to get close to tripling it.
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red sox 777 | Posted 2/4/2010 10:07:12 PM | message detail
Cloud's really moving now. Three 70% updates in a row.
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vcharon | Posted 2/4/2010 10:11:01 PM | message detail
Cloud should make it to 70% in a couple of hours if he can continue this.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 2/4/2010 10:11:45 PM | message detail
I like how the guys saying FF7 has looked terrible are completely forgetting about Zack
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/4/2010 10:11:50 PM | message detail
Yesterday's chart:

Time | Ezio | Simon | Votes
0:05 | 52.67% | 47.33% | 619
1:00 | 56.01% | 43.99% | 6163
2:00 | 56.22% | 43.78% | 7147
3:00 | 57.29% | 42.71% | 6706
4:00 | 61.22% | 38.78% | 7093
5:00 | 61.72% | 38.28% | 7224
6:00 | 61.09% | 38.91% | 6720
7:00 | 61.37% | 38.63% | 6265
8:00 | 61.38% | 38.62% | 5736
9:00 | 61.47% | 38.53% | 5090
10:00 | 61.12% | 38.88% | 4619
11:00 | 58.55% | 41.45% | 4203
12:00 | 59.29% | 40.71% | 3572

A solid day vote for Ezio, as expected (and very consistent at that), but the first three hours and the last two hours prevent him from being able to get 60% in the end. Maybe if the poll starts on time without a glitch, he would've gotten 60%?
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 2/4/2010 10:12:08 PM | message detail

From: BlAcK TuRtLe | #197
I like how the guys saying FF7 has looked terrible are completely forgetting about Zack


Thats because he faced another FF character. SFF matches aren't the best to get a read on characters from.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 2/4/2010 10:23:01 PM | message detail
he still manhandled Yuna in a way that we all would love to do but could never match Mr. unFair's manliness.
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