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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 814

RPGuy96 | Posted 2/2/2010 2:11:40 PM | message detail
Oh ye of little faith, Guybrush won entire hours against Isaac and Lucario. And he beat Ike on a couple of updates while sharing the poll with two PC characters!

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3247&region=EUR

All we have to do is ensure that only Europeans are allowed to vote in his matches!
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 2/2/2010 2:11:57 PM | message detail
Huh, ertyu out of all people made me realize:


Subby has the Ninja Turtle vote
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Team Rocket Elite | Posted 2/2/2010 2:12:35 PM | message detail
Here's something odd I noticed from looking at the Guru brackets. Of the 143 out of 229 brackets to choose Jecht over Phoenix, 71 favored Tidus and 72 favored Sub-Zero. The 86 brackets with Phoenix favored Tidus over Sub-Zero 61-25. Jecht backers were more likely to bet against Tidus. I would have guessed that people with faith in one FFX character would have more faith in the other FFX character.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 2/2/2010 2:13:56 PM | message detail
I went against both and took Auron over Squall.
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Obviously I was banking on a Dissidia deboost.
draarrowgant | Posted 2/2/2010 2:17:08 PM | message detail
First round retrospect

Current:
16:56:06
46.37% -Tidus
53.63%- Sub
2789- Lead


Best DAY matches thus far:

16:56:02
52.54% -Ami
47.46%- Shadow
2188 - Lead


16:56:07
48.31% - Cecil
51.69% - Knuckles
1192 - Lead


16:56:07
49.99% - Wesker
50.01% - Ken
4 - Lead





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HaRRicH | Posted 2/2/2010 2:17:40 PM | message detail
I banked on Auron (by beating Squall), Jecht, and Yuna more than Tidus. He and Rikku were the only two FFX-characters I didn't bet on.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/2/2010 2:22:40 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #282
Yeah. I don't expect Roxas to actually beat Subby, but it isn't entirely out of the question.


Ehhhh, I wouldn't take Roxas to beat Tidus, much less to score 54-55%+ on him. I'd have a hard time seeing Riku do that, and Roxas ain't beatin' Riku. I'm not sure Riku beats Tidus at all, honestly.

But I generally don't hold fanboy picks against people because I make plenty of them myself, such as today.
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"Spoil it for me. I'm never going to play that game so I want to know if he's going to be another Auron or another Sin." - Soul about Jecht vs. PW
LeonhartFour | Posted 2/2/2010 2:23:30 PM | message detail
Auron > Squall pickers goin' down!
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 2/2/2010 2:24:07 PM | message detail

From: Team Rocket Elite | #303
Here's something odd I noticed from looking at the Guru brackets. Of the 143 out of 229 brackets to choose Jecht over Phoenix, 71 favored Tidus and 72 favored Sub-Zero. The 86 brackets with Phoenix favored Tidus over Sub-Zero 61-25. Jecht backers were more likely to bet against Tidus. I would have guessed that people with faith in one FFX character would have more faith in the other FFX character.


Its kinda like how I put Red > Ocelot, but The Boss > Drake. I got to gauge the strength of their opponent, because all MGS/FFX characters are not equal >_>
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 2/2/2010 2:29:27 PM | message detail
Anyone want to know something interesting?

This match goes exactly as expected if you use what Tidus got on Kirby and extrapolate from Kirby in 2006 on 2006 Sub-Zero.

And it would give you the exact percentage you have at this very moment (or extremely close).
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General_Zimbad | Posted 2/2/2010 2:33:51 PM | message detail
Awwwwwwww, Tidus is losing. I just woke up btw. This is bad for my bracket and I do love FFX D:
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Team Rocket Elite | Posted 2/2/2010 2:34:32 PM | message detail
I'm not trying to say that if a person thinks MGS character A is strong that they automatically think MGS characters B is stronger. However, I would imagine that someone who thinks character A is strong is more likely to think character B is strong than someone who thinks character A is weak. Red vs Ocelot and Drake vs The Boss actually show the relationship I would expect. The brackets with Ocelot over Red were slightly more likely to have The Boss over Drake than brackets with Red over Ocelot. Drake was still the majority pick for both the "Red > Ocelot" and "Ocelot > Red" groups.
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DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 2/2/2010 2:37:27 PM | message detail

From: MarioSuperstar | #310
Anyone want to know something interesting?

This match goes exactly as expected if you use what Tidus got on Kirby and extrapolate from Kirby in 2006 on 2006 Sub-Zero.

And it would give you the exact percentage you have at this very moment (or extremely close).


Which is why I mainly used old 1 v 1 stats rather than 4ways. Obviously there have been changes in strength because of new games or loss of appeal.. but that's easily factored in. In the case of Tidus and Sub-Zero, they basically had little reason to change in strength since 2006.
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Master Moltar | Posted 2/2/2010 2:38:04 PM | message detail

From: DaruniaTheGoron | #299
Yeah the Crew has been downright bad this year >_> I read it sometimes just for some entertainment or humour.. not for actual predictions.


Hey now, counting today we've only gotten 6 matches wrong...

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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/2/2010 2:38:21 PM | message detail
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/2/2010 2:38:41 PM | message detail
Hey, I took 4 out of 5 FFX characters to win!

But whatever.
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"Spoil it for me. I'm never going to play that game so I want to know if he's going to be another Auron or another Sin." - Soul about Jecht vs. PW
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 2/2/2010 2:39:25 PM | message detail
I'll have you know that certain members of the crew have only gotten 4 matches wrong.
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red sox 777 | Posted 2/2/2010 2:39:55 PM | message detail
That's interesting, that Phoenix supporters were more likely to pick Tidus today. I don't feel good about Phoenix at all, and there was always a bit of wishful thinking behind that one, but it might work out yet.
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nintendo girl | Posted 2/2/2010 2:42:42 PM | message detail
From: KleenexTissue50 | #317
I'll have you know that certain members of the crew have only gotten 4 matches wrong.

Gawd, NGirl >>>>> the Crew

Even these alleged "better ones".
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 2/2/2010 2:47:00 PM | message detail

From: Team Rocket Elite | Posted: 2/2/2010 5:12:35 PM | #303
Here's something odd I noticed from looking at the Guru brackets. Of the 143 out of 229 brackets to choose Jecht over Phoenix, 71 favored Tidus and 72 favored Sub-Zero. The 86 brackets with Phoenix favored Tidus over Sub-Zero 61-25. Jecht backers were more likely to bet against Tidus. I would have guessed that people with faith in one FFX character would have more faith in the other FFX character.


I do this lumping sometimes. I went with Altair > Liquid, so I figured Drake could beat The Boss.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/2/2010 2:54:24 PM | message detail
What posers!

I see a poser!

</Kefka>
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"Spoil it for me. I'm never going to play that game so I want to know if he's going to be another Auron or another Sin." - Soul about Jecht vs. PW
charmander6000 | Posted 2/2/2010 3:10:36 PM | message detail
As person who took Sub-Zero and Jecht I do say that I felt weird about that while filling out my bracket. I just felt that Sub-Zero and Jecht would come out top despite Tidus sharing a game.

Looking over my bracket I did the same thing with Kefka and Terra, but then again I had all of the MGS characters reaching the second round.
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Character Battle VIII - 26/34 - Today's Winners: Roxas and Sub-Zero
MarioSuperstar | Posted 2/2/2010 3:12:16 PM | message detail
I just think they're two completely different scenarios.
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 2/2/2010 3:14:58 PM | message detail
I figured the play-in characters would be legit, especially the higher seeded ones, so I took Subby , Jecht, The Boss, HK, and X all to the third round.

...Well, at least Subby looks good so far!
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 2/2/2010 3:20:53 PM | message detail
So, I got bored the other day and made this thing here.

http://www.filefactory.com/file/a2h3906/n/CBATP.xls

It ranks all the characters in every main character battle, giving them points based on their performance the same way the ATP tour does rankings for Tennis players. Also, Quarterfinals or better appearances are color coded.

Round of 128 = 10pts
Round of 64 = 45pts
Round of 32 = 90pts
Round of 16 = 180pts
Quarterfinals = 360pts (Blue)
Semifinals = 720pts (Yellow)
Finals = 1200pts (Red)
Winner = 2000pts (Green)

Obviously these don't mean anything in terms of strength, but I know most of you guys like numbers and stuff like this, so it might be fun to look at! It's current through Tidus/Sub-Zero.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 2/2/2010 3:56:47 PM | message detail
After seeing that Kefka squash, I'm wondering just how good Revan's chances of beating Terra are...
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charmander6000 | Posted 2/2/2010 3:58:00 PM | message detail
If Revan is stronger than HK-47 than he should be fine.
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Character Battle VIII - 26/34 - Today's Winners: Roxas and Sub-Zero
Team Rocket Elite | Posted 2/2/2010 4:09:47 PM | message detail
Assuming Kefka's performance was mostly caused by Kefka boosting, I'm not sure I'd say HK-47 is safe from a Terra that recieved a similar boost.
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charmander6000 | Posted 2/2/2010 4:13:20 PM | message detail
Match XXXVII: (3) Phoenix Wright vs. (14) Jecht

Information

Name: Phoenix Wright
Game/Series: Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
Previous Contest: 2008
Performance: 4th in round 2

Name: Jecht
Game/Series: Final Fantasy X
Previous Contest: N/A
Performance: N/A

Analysis

You know Phoenix Wright doesn’t seem to be the character that would get such a high seed. I know his fans are pretty hardcore, but the higher seeds are often reserved for more mainstream characters. Due to having such a high seed and the vote-ins bringing in stronger competition the once usual 3/14 blowout has become a debatable match with the 14 seed as the favourite. Kind of surprising since Phoenix is such a board favourite.

I’m a large supporter of Phoenix Wright performing better in four-ways because of his hardcore fanbase. However going back to 2006 Phoenix Wright wasn’t exactly that weak, sure it was during the height of the fad, but Phoenix can probably manage against low mid-cards and fodder line opponents. Whether or not Jecht is that weak is up for debate.

Jecht received mild support during the nomination period which was good enough to put him in the vote-ins. While we can’t take anything from those things Jecht at least showed up that we won’t likely be fodder and that he has some support. Jecht’s appearance in Final Fantasy X could be compared to Zack, minus the looking like the main character which in this case may help him. The guy is referenced a lot in the game, but I would be surprised if that alone made him comparable to Tidus and gang in terms of strength.

Jecht’s main ticket to win is likely his appearance in Dissidia. While some characters were already pretty exposed Jecht will most likely get one of the bigger boosts from the game. Still the boost hasn’t exactly been proven yet though weaker Final Fantasy characters have had decent performance while the more known characters seem to be performing as expected.

I think Jecht should still be the favourite going into the match, but I wouldn’t be surprised if Phoenix won. If Phoenix isn’t ahead during the board vote that could spell out trouble especially with Jecht having the whole night work going to his advantage. Also given how weak the characters are in the next match the winner here will likely reach the third round.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Jecht > Phoenix Wright

charmander6000’s Prediction: Jecht wins, 53.87% - 46.13%

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Character Battle VIII - 26/34 - Today's Winners: Roxas and Sub-Zero
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 2/2/2010 4:15:46 PM | message detail
R1 matches I'm most worried about:

1. Soap/Daddy
2. Revan/Terra
3. Phoenix/Jecht
4. Sackboy/Kratos A.

I'd consider any other R1 match where the result diverged from my bracket a surprise.
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 2/2/2010 4:17:17 PM | message detail
Heh Jecht might be one of the few characters that can win the board vote over Phoenix, never thought that that could happen.

Cats VS PW, who wins the board vote?
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 2/2/2010 4:18:29 PM | message detail
Phoenix, and I very much doubt Jecht wins it over him. I don't think Jecht would get killed (more due to brackets than anything else), but it's hard to imagine Phoenix increasing on any character after the freeze.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 2/2/2010 4:20:09 PM | message detail
Assuming Kefka's performance was mostly caused by Kefka boosting, I'm not sure I'd say HK-47 is safe from a Terra that recieved a similar boost.

The question is: Was it Kefka boosting? Or was it Arthas being exposed as having been overrated? I'd personally say it's the latter.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 2/2/2010 4:22:22 PM | message detail
I think Arthas was horribly overrated by 4ways and is another Kerrigan 1v1.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 2/2/2010 4:25:23 PM | message detail
It's not like Kerrigan did any better in fourways compared to 1v1s.
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red sox 777 | Posted 2/2/2010 4:29:29 PM | message detail
It was mostly Arthas being overrated, I'd say. That and Kefka getting a better picture.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 2/2/2010 4:30:41 PM | message detail
His picture can only be so good. The guy is a clown.
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charmander6000 | Posted 2/2/2010 4:32:36 PM | message detail
But that's who he is, it's like saying Tidus' picture is bad when that is exactly what he looks like.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 2/2/2010 4:39:25 PM | message detail
I think Arthas was horribly overrated by 4ways and is another Kerrigan 1v1.

That's just what I'm thinking. Also, Arthas was benefitting from SFF in both his matches in 2008.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 2/2/2010 4:40:45 PM | message detail
That awful FMV Kefka just doesn't look like him, and it's no good to boot. Using that is like having blonde hair on Terra or something.

And then he gets art that (gasp!) does look like him, and he excels (see also: Kefka/Wesker).

It's not impossible for Arthas to be overrated, but he actually did get into WoW as opposed to last year when he was just hype, and he put up reasonable numbers on Alucard (roughly equal to Magus). Add to that the fact that Diablo looked about the same in fourways and 1v1s (ie decent) and Kerrigan looked about the same (ie terrible) and StarCraft actually looked (much) worse in fourways and I don't really accept the premise that Arthas was a fourway creation.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 2/2/2010 4:41:56 PM | message detail
Eh, it's one of those weird matches that might never make sense. We'll see if Kefka gets a good picture and does well on Bowser.
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red sox 777 | Posted 2/2/2010 4:42:00 PM | message detail
Diablo and Starcraft aren't hated by more than half the site though, like WoW is.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/2/2010 4:42:25 PM | message detail

From: Fayt_Esteed | #339
I think Arthas was horribly overrated by 4ways and is another Kerrigan 1v1.

That's just what I'm thinking. Also, Arthas was benefitting from SFF in both his matches in 2008.


LFF can only mask weakness so much. Plus, it doesn't explain how he beat Diablo when he should by all means have been killed by him. We'll just have to wait and see what Kefka does against Bowser next round before we can say Kefka boosted or Arthas was just a 4-way fluke.

Oh, and no way Jecht wins the board vote over Phoenix Wright. It ain't happening.
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voltch | Posted 2/2/2010 4:42:58 PM | message detail
there's probably a mix of both, arthas being overrated and the pic factor.
I just can't see how a guy who keeps jobbing was able to look like his kefka/wesker self.
heck i think Angel kefka doesn't even look like the classic version every player will be familiar with.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 2/2/2010 4:44:32 PM | message detail
Diablo and Starcraft aren't hated by more than half the site though, like WoW is.

Conveniently, Arthas is also in WarCraft III, and, just as conveniently, that's all he had in 2007 as there was no hype for him in WoW at that point. And he still beat Diablo.
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voltch | Posted 2/2/2010 4:51:53 PM | message detail
I don't know anything about Warcraft, but is a Warcraff IV type of game theoretically possible?
It's just to see if there's any reason to ever trust arthas again.
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 2/2/2010 4:54:36 PM | message detail
Not while WoW is still ranking in the dough.

They'll be getting China back soon anyways.
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voltch | Posted 2/2/2010 4:58:48 PM | message detail
I really wonder if the Wow crowd cares much about characters though, It's really the RTS crowd which i reckon vote the most for him, but I got no real proof of that.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 2/2/2010 5:00:58 PM | message detail
I think losing to KOS-MOS was probably Arthas' only sign of being weaker than Kefka, and.. maybe we should have taken it more seriously.

But that still doesn't explain Diablo.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/2/2010 5:02:17 PM | message detail
Just for the curious, if Kefka/Arthas was all Kefka boosting and 2008 Arthas is correct, Kefka is expected to get 39.5%~ on Bowser next round. Something to keep in mind.

At the very least, if what Kefka did was legit, he should outdo Frog.
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