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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 814

The n00b Avenger | Posted 2/2/2010 12:02:58 PM | message detail
The same amount that had Arthas winning
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 2/2/2010 12:03:56 PM | message detail
I think the BOP had Sub-Zero in R3 while the Guru had Tidus. That's enough to seal the deal, apparently.
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TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 2/2/2010 12:15:14 PM | message detail
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 2/2/2010 2:51:54 PM | #244
HOW DID LUIGI SFF META KNIGHT, IT SHOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED.

There wasn't any SFF involved. If anything, there really was a little bit of rSFF--hence Luigi's failure to double Meta Knight, which quite honestly, he probably should have done.

Then again, maybe not--Meta Knight is evidently fairly popular as well, if Board 8's NCAA characters contest is any indication. Meta Knight is ranked #17 in the most recent poll, which means he's obviously been doing well. Luigi, of course, is ranked #2 and has yet to lose a match, though, which pretty much proves the point--MK didn't stand a chance, and the percentages fell right in line with what we all would've expected if no SFF was present. Why are you bringing this up?
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Lightslayer987 | Posted 2/2/2010 12:15:56 PM | message detail

From: TsunamiXXVIII | #253
There wasn't any SFF involved. If anything, there really was a little bit of rSFF--hence Luigi's failure to double Meta Knight, which quite honestly, he probably should have done.


XFD
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 2/2/2010 12:16:21 PM | message detail

From: TsunamiXXVIII | Posted: 2/2/2010 3:15:14 PM | #253
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 2/2/2010 2:51:54 PM | #244
HOW DID LUIGI SFF META KNIGHT, IT SHOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED.

There wasn't any SFF involved. If anything, there really was a little bit of rSFF--hence Luigi's failure to double Meta Knight, which quite honestly, he probably should have done.


And you honestly wonder why you aren't taken seriously?
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 2/2/2010 12:17:12 PM | message detail
Quiet Ulti, Meta-Knight has a sword.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 2/2/2010 12:24:05 PM | message detail
SWORD rSFF BROKEN-IN-BRAWL FACTOR, HOW DID I NOT SEE THIS COMING
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voltch | Posted 2/2/2010 12:24:23 PM | message detail
Board 8's NCAA characters contest is any indication.

heheheHAHAHAHAHA.

Now correct me if I'm wrong, but Ulti, in your best game contest, doesn't FFVII usually megabomb?
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 2/2/2010 12:25:22 PM | message detail
Somebody get this guy out of here.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 2/2/2010 12:29:40 PM | message detail

From: voltch | Posted: 2/2/2010 3:24:23 PM | #258
Board 8's NCAA characters contest is any indication.

heheheHAHAHAHAHA.

Now correct me if I'm wrong, but Ulti, in your best game contest, doesn't FFVII usually megabomb?


FF7 has never won a match.

THIS CLEARLY MEANS FF7 WOULD NEVER WIN A MATCH ON THE MAIN PAGE GUYZ! WE'VE FIGURED IT OUT.
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charmander6000 | Posted 2/2/2010 12:33:02 PM | message detail
Wait the BOP has Roxas > Tidus/Subby?

No BOP has Sub-Zero > Roxas while Guru has Tidus > Roxas. Since Tidus has already lost even if Roxas pulls the unlikely upset the BOP will still be 2 points ahead of the Guru.
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TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 2/2/2010 12:35:27 PM | message detail
So, let me just confirm this, you're saying Luigi overperformed, right? Because first you said that it shouldn't have been possible that Luigi would win by that much, and when I said that if anything, Meta Knight might have overperformed a little, you laughed at me. Of course, it's clear that both characters are quite popular, but this was kind of like the Bowser-Frog battle. Oops, bad example--Bowser underperformed as well.

The moral of the story: When both characters are popular, unless there is massive SFF, do not expect a doubling. A lesson learned.
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CB8 record through 35 matches: 32-3
Incorrect picks: Ocelot, Wesker, Fawful
ExThaNemesis | Posted 2/2/2010 12:37:09 PM | message detail
FFVII has only never won a match because Ulti intentionally rigs it up against joke games or cult board favorites.
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EternalxCourage | Posted 2/2/2010 12:46:27 PM | message detail
FFVII is the best game ever. It has gotten more votes total than any other game on this site.
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Wii_TuRtLe | Posted 2/2/2010 12:47:08 PM | message detail
Unlikely upset? Pssh, Roxas has it in the bag.

And how is anybody surprised by this "upset"? I was honestly shocked when I checked the guru today and saw that Teedus was the favourite. After what Subby did on Auron in 2006, this match never seemed to be in question for me.
TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 2/2/2010 12:48:45 PM | message detail
No, no, it's obvious that FFVII does poorly in Board 8 polls because it gets anti-voted. But that's irrelevant, because the answer to this match is clear: Americans love fighting games.

The geolocation function makes it quite clear--the majority of the Americas are favoring Sub-Zero, while Australia and most of Asia favors Tidus, Europe seems somewhat split, and there's not enough data to figure out a trend for Africa. Based on these voting trends, I would guess that Tidus might have been able to win this if it had been a night match, but because it's a day match, it will likely only become a bigger blowout as the match rolls on. I can only hope that I'm wrong about this, because I had Tidus advancing to round 3 before losing to Samus, and this would be my first major mistake as all of my previous wrong picks were going to be heavy underdogs in round 2 anyway.
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CB8 record through 35 matches: 32-3
Incorrect picks: Ocelot, Wesker, Fawful
LeonhartFour | Posted 2/2/2010 12:49:23 PM | message detail
I'm not sure how this makes Tidus look bad. I've mentioned it before, but if I weren't such a Tidus fanboy, I almost certainly would have picked Sub-Zero to win this match. He's just looked stronger. I knew Tidus wasn't completely out of his league (as this match shows. It's gonna end up 54/46 at worst), but Sub-Zero by all rights should have been the favorite to win this match. 40% on Auron is more impressive than anything Tidus has ever done.
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TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 2/2/2010 12:51:34 PM | message detail
Don't be so sure. Roxas/Sub-Zero is another day match, so if the same trends hold, Sub-Zero should be able to win again.
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CB8 record through 35 matches: 32-3
Incorrect picks: Ocelot, Wesker, Fawful
GrapefruitKing | Posted 2/2/2010 12:52:44 PM | message detail
I thought Tidus would manage to make a few cuts during the ASV, but it seems like Sub won't let him

Great stuff from Subby
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KamikazePotato | Posted 2/2/2010 12:53:12 PM | message detail
The fact that Subby isn't putting away Tidus now that the ASV rolling is a bad sign for him. KH day vote is one of the strongest out there.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/2/2010 12:54:37 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #270
The fact that Subby isn't putting away Tidus now that the ASV rolling is a bad sign for him. KH day vote is one of the strongest out there.


Roxas has to be strong enough for that day vote to matter, and he isn't.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 2/2/2010 12:55:37 PM | message detail

From: ExThaNemesis | Posted: 2/2/2010 3:37:09 PM | #263
FFVII has only never won a match because Ulti intentionally rigs it up against joke games or cult board favorites.


I've only done this once, with Barkley. Phoenix Wright and Big Rigs were just bad luck.
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EternalxCourage | Posted 2/2/2010 12:56:21 PM | message detail
I really hope Roxas somehow pulls this match out of his ass. It would make me feel a whole lot better about picking Tidus to beat Sub. :(
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 2/2/2010 12:56:24 PM | message detail
Roxas > Sub-Zero would be a cool upset, but I don't think they're close enough for it to happen. Roxas is probably Riku's level, and I wouldn't take Riku > Sub ever.
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nintendo girl | Posted 2/2/2010 12:56:59 PM | message detail
From: KamikazePotato | #270
The fact that Subby isn't putting away Tidus now that the ASV rolling is a bad sign for him. KH day vote is one of the strongest out there.

You went with Roxas > Subby
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 2/2/2010 12:57:40 PM | message detail
Anyone else think Roxas has a shot at beating Sub-Zero?
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 2/2/2010 12:58:55 PM | message detail

From: TsunamiXXVIII | Posted: 2/2/2010 3:35:27 PM | #262
So, let me just confirm this, you're saying Luigi overperformed, right? Because first you said that it shouldn't have been possible that Luigi would win by that much, and when I said that if anything, Meta Knight might have overperformed a little, you laughed at me. Of course, it's clear that both characters are quite popular, but this was kind of like the Bowser-Frog battle. Oops, bad example--Bowser underperformed as well.

The moral of the story: When both characters are popular, unless there is massive SFF, do not expect a doubling. A lesson learned.


As usual, you are wrong. Bowser/Frog was .02% away from going exactly as 2008 said it would: http://www.oraclechallenge.com/archives.php?contest=SpC2k10&type=match&match=28
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 2/2/2010 12:59:37 PM | message detail
I don't. I wouldn't take Riku over Sub, and I wouldn't take Roxas considerably over Tidus. Day match or not.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 2/2/2010 1:00:27 PM | message detail
Roxas has the same problem Tidus does: It looks like a female.
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TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 2/2/2010 1:03:30 PM | message detail
I'm not sure how this makes Tidus look bad. I've mentioned it before, but if I weren't such a Tidus fanboy, I almost certainly would have picked Sub-Zero to win this match. He's just looked stronger. I knew Tidus wasn't completely out of his league (as this match shows. It's gonna end up 54/46 at worst), but Sub-Zero by all rights should have been the favorite to win this match. 40% on Auron is more impressive than anything Tidus has ever done.

Tidus got 41% on a member of the Noble Nine and 49% on Ganondorf, who is roughly Auron's equal...and has a 1-0 record against Auron. So no, Sub-Zero's 40% on Auron isn't more impressive than anything Tidus has ever done.

However, the two aforementioned results came from the first two contests. I agree, upon further examination, Tidus's recent results do not compare favorably to Sub-Zero's, and I definitely regret not seeing that earlier. Tidus has indeed been weakening over time. I was merely pointing out that you were incorrect in saying that Tidus had never done anything impressive; he finished 11th and 13th in the first two contests, but has been unable to maintain that high standard ever since.
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voltch | Posted 2/2/2010 1:05:13 PM | message detail
Americans love fighting games.

I agree so hard, SFIV demolished Persona 4 to the point where being a P4 fan was shameful.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 2/2/2010 1:06:11 PM | message detail
Yeah. I don't expect Roxas to actually beat Subby, but it isn't entirely out of the question.

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Zylo the wolf | Posted 2/2/2010 1:06:43 PM | message detail
The fact that Subby isn't putting away Tidus now that the ASV rolling is a bad sign for him. KH day vote is one of the strongest out there.

WHAT? Subby have increased his lead with over 100 in a few updates during the ASV. He's kicking Tidus butt pretty good with the ASV.
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nintendo girl | Posted 2/2/2010 1:08:03 PM | message detail
WTH Subby with a 94 vote gain.
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voltch | Posted 2/2/2010 1:08:09 PM | message detail
we knew from the start that subby/tidus was likely to be a 3 point match right of the bat though.
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nintendo girl | Posted 2/2/2010 1:09:58 PM | message detail
Hmm.. not completely out the blue. He gained 103 a couple updates back and a 79. But mixed amongst some 20-40 vote gains.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 2/2/2010 1:10:50 PM | message detail

From: Zylo the wolf | #283
The fact that Subby isn't putting away Tidus now that the ASV rolling is a bad sign for him. KH day vote is one of the strongest out there.

WHAT? Subby have increased his lead with over 100 in a few updates during the ASV. He's kicking Tidus butt pretty good with the ASV.


Since 3, Subby's % has raised a grand total of .08%. One update ago it would have been .01%.

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TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 2/2/2010 1:13:32 PM | message detail
Yes, but why would you expect the 2008 stats to accurately reflect the 2010 results? For one thing, 4-way stats have been proven to be unreliable in predicting 1v1s. Now, Frog's only new game since Summer '08 was a remake of his original game, which might have increased his exposure a little, but remakes are usually trying to appeal to nostalgia anyway. (I have Chrono Trigger DS, and the box art isn't exactly the type that leaps out at you if you happen to see it in the store.) Said remake came out in late 2008. Bowser, on the other hand, has featured prominently in two games released within a month of each other, both in the final quarter of 2009. One of these games actually has his name in the title, which is a first for him. By "only" performing at the level that the 2008 stats would predict, Bowser underperformed.
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CB8 record through 35 matches: 32-3
Incorrect picks: Ocelot, Wesker, Fawful
Zylo the wolf | Posted 2/2/2010 1:15:34 PM | message detail
Since three Sub-Zero have increased his lead with 700 votes. How is that doing bad with the ASV in a somewhat close match?
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nintendo girl | Posted 2/2/2010 1:17:13 PM | message detail
Because it's exactly in line with what he was doing pre-ASV.

Guybrush is a Europe vote king, but he's still gonna lose a ****-ton of votes to Link during the Europe vote.
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charmander6000 | Posted 2/2/2010 1:19:15 PM | message detail
The ASV doesn't seem to cause much shifts compare to the first three hours. Ike, Master Chief and Bowser didn't exactly gain that much percent.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 2/2/2010 1:27:00 PM | message detail
Fawful did!

>_>

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HaRRicH | Posted 2/2/2010 1:31:23 PM | message detail
49% on Ganondorf, who is roughly Auron's equal...and has a 1-0 record against Auron.

Context, come on.
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rpgapzx | Posted 2/2/2010 1:35:10 PM | message detail
TsunamiXXVIII Posted 2/2/2010 12:48:45 PM message detail
The geolocation function makes it quite clear--the majority of the Americas are favoring Sub-Zero, while Australia and most of Asia favors Tidus, Europe seems somewhat split, and there's not enough data to figure out a trend for Africa. Based on these voting trends, I would guess that Tidus might have been able to win this if it had been a night match, but because it's a day match, it will likely only become a bigger blowout as the match rolls on. I can only hope that I'm wrong about this, because I had Tidus advancing to round 3 before losing to Samus, and this would be my first major mistake as all of my previous wrong picks were going to be heavy underdogs in round 2 anyway.

I addressed this conjecture at the beginning of the thread. It likely would have made a difference, but given that Sub Zero is up 7% and not 2 or 3%, it probably would not have been enough unless there were other voting patterns that were different in a day/night split.
RPGuy96 | Posted 2/2/2010 1:58:01 PM | message detail
Woo Subby, get me back on that leaderboard! (And Phoenix better keep me on, not like that jerk Liquid. Or Neku, but at least he had the decency to lose before Kefka rather than immediately after.)

Given that Sub-Zero got between 37-40.5% on Auron and Tidus got 38% on Mega Man, this is going more or less exactly as I would have expected it to go last year. Which is evidence against a Dissidia boost, at least for Tidus, and I remain convinced that Kefka was the result of him getting a recognizable picture.
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Naomi_Diamond | Posted 2/2/2010 1:58:15 PM | message detail
The "Crew" really gets a lot of these close matches wrong. So glad I don't follow you guys. >->

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Naomi_Diamond | Posted 2/2/2010 2:01:53 PM | message detail
Not that I don't appreciate the insight or anything. Commentary is more fun than nobody caring.

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RPGuy96 | Posted 2/2/2010 2:03:06 PM | message detail
Maybe the Guru should nominate Guybrush so he gets a 2 seed!

There is a strong possibility that I would do this!
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DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 2/2/2010 2:06:19 PM | message detail
Yeah the Crew has been downright bad this year >_> I read it sometimes just for some entertainment or humour.. not for actual predictions.
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HaRRicH | Posted 2/2/2010 2:07:00 PM | message detail
I would take every fifteen-seed this contest to at least 60-40 Guybrush...!
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