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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 814
voltch | Posted 2/2/2010 9:07:39 AM | message detail |
DISSIDIA BOOST! Believe! ~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~ www.gamefaqscontests.com ~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~ http://board8.wikia.com/ ~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~ http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/ http://thengamer.com/xstats http://thengamer.com/stats ~*Character Contest Histories (Thanks to Raven 2 for the info transfer)*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Contest_Histories ~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~ A = Strongest Character B = Character Weaker than A C = Character Weaker than B To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA ~*All the match pics*~ http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/index.php ~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages ~*Poll Start Times*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Character_Battle_8_Poll_Start_Times ~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~ SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them. X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process. Noble Nine - Link, Cloud, Sephiroth, Mario, Crono, Solid Snake, Sonic, Samus and Mega Man. Near-Elite - The Squall, Auron, Tifa, Vincent, Zelda, Kirby, etc group that has come at, near or even ahead of Noble Nine characters in the past. The Fodder Line - A final X-Stat value of 15% or below. For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything. --- Shakes Fist! |
rpgapzx | Posted 2/2/2010 9:35:36 AM | message detail |
Reposting this here, as its likely to get lost in end of 813 I did North America gets 70% in the night and 80% in the day Europe gets 18% at night and 12% at day The others shift about 2%. Nice. When you say night, you mean our night?(midnight-noon) So in a match like this where NA is SZ 54/46 and Europe is 46/54(current numbers, small sample size at this point, examples sake), those numbers would peg a NA/Europe only match at Day: SZ wins 48.7%-43.3% = Net 5.4% Night: SZ wins 46.1%-41.9% = Net 4.2% So the difference is just above 1% with split difference in such an example. If the differences in voting patterns b/w Europe/NA are larger than this, it can have even a larger effect. Obviously, this is super simplistic, and doesn't account for the fact that voting patterns change within NA and Europe themselves because of whether the match is day or night, but it pretty much confirms what we already know - it only makes a difference if the splits are pronounced or if the match was close in the first place. |
Lightslayer987 | Posted 2/2/2010 9:45:47 AM | message detail |
Massive spike for Tidus there. --- http://i47.tinypic.com/28gtj5g.jpg Albion Hero is the Cream of Loli Fanboyism |
Tequilla Gundam | Posted 2/2/2010 9:46:37 AM | message detail |
mmmmm |
Nomchan | Posted 2/2/2010 9:46:48 AM | message detail |
Tidus is still in this. --- ~ Birth by Sleep ~ A flat chest is a status symbol, it has immeasurable value. - Mayumi-chan |
nintendo girl | Posted 2/2/2010 9:47:17 AM | message detail |
From: Lightslayer987 | #003 Massive spike for Tidus there. And subby still gained! --- Ha HAA! |
Achromatic | Posted 2/2/2010 9:47:20 AM | message detail |
Is
this going to turn into one of those "Subby will build a lead in the
first hour, lose steam, tidus will come back, andwinner will barely win' if so those are cool --- "Because some charities are corrupt." -bobby1986 on why it is better to give to the church instead of a charity. Sir Chris |
WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 2/2/2010 9:47:21 AM | message detail |
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Darth_Voltch | Posted 2/2/2010 9:47:22 AM | message detail |
you just need faith! --- Join the Dark Side |
Masato_Tanaka | Posted 2/2/2010 9:47:23 AM | message detail |
YEAAAAAH SUB-ZERO --- Elephant Talk: A New Kind Of Music Blog! http://elephantmusictalk.blogspot.com/ |
vcharon | Posted 2/2/2010 9:47:24 AM | message detail |
Come on, cut upcoming. --- :> |
WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 2/2/2010 9:47:47 AM | message detail |
I DELETED IT IT DOESN'T COUNT! --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png |
LeonhartFour | Posted 2/2/2010 9:48:05 AM | message detail |
From: Nomchan | #005 He didn't cut votes, so I doubt it. Just glad he at least got a percentage cut. I'm sure everyone will nom the winner's choice when it comes down to it, though. I dunno. A lot of people renegged on nominating Toadette. I know Crono's a different situation, but I think a lot of people would react badly to a Noble Niner being chosen as the Guru choice. --- "Stay with me until the end. Please." "Not until the end. Always." |
KamikazePotato | Posted 2/2/2010 9:48:18 AM | message detail |
In response to this: I know sox won't really nominate Crono, but even if he did, I'd get upset at anyone who just refused to hold onto their end of the deal. I'm sure everyone will nom the winner's choice when it comes down to it, though. I consider the Guru nomination a great way for us to get new blood into this contest, even if it's someone random favorite fodder character like Prinny. Using a Guru nomination on Crono is flat-out insulting and serves no purpose. I've nominated several people I didn't like/thought would be trash that were picked for the Guru, but I would never, ever support a Noble Niner. --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
MarquessLaus | Posted 2/2/2010 9:48:28 AM | message detail |
Man
I like Dissidia so much, I still want to see Tius take this even after
realsing my bracket clearly says Sub-Zero for the next match. --- When you've got a pretty-boy monkey on your back constantly calling you a puppet, you hardly want to seem like you're happy to be used. - DSakaCharanJ |
Darth_Voltch | Posted 2/2/2010 9:48:32 AM | message detail |
Ngirl will embarass you too, somehow. --- Join the Dark Side |
Redtooth | Posted 2/2/2010 9:49:38 AM | message detail |
excellent 500 post IMO. Why bother joining the guru unless you're ready to nom whatever crap the winner decides. Unless you don't care that no one would nominate your pick if that comes around... --- I thought I'd never change, but FastFalcon beat me into shape! |
Lightslayer987 | Posted 2/2/2010 9:50:09 AM | message detail |
I'd
be fine with nominating a fringe character, like say... Axel for
example, just to make sure he gets in. But a noble niner? I'd refuse. --- http://i47.tinypic.com/28gtj5g.jpg Albion Hero is the Cream of Loli Fanboyism |
nintendo girl | Posted 2/2/2010 9:50:16 AM | message detail |
I still don't know if I'd pick Epona or Chibi-Robo... Probably Chibi because I hope Epona gets a big rally anyway. And there's no other way in hell Chibi-Robo ever gets in. --- ;_; |
WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 2/2/2010 9:51:18 AM | message detail |
I
would complain about Crono, but if I won I'd probably force a Cecil
nomination so he could get a chance at making it to the third round.
>_> --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png |
Darth_Voltch | Posted 2/2/2010 9:51:23 AM | message detail |
chibi-robo? --- Join the Dark Side |
LeonhartFour | Posted 2/2/2010 9:51:28 AM | message detail |
If
someone picks a character like Crono for the Guru nom, I'll do my part
and nominate him, but I sure ain't gonna be happy about it! That's like
if I put Crono in the NRT and he won. It's a waste. --- "Stay with me until the end. Please." "Not until the end. Always." |
KamikazePotato | Posted 2/2/2010 9:51:35 AM | message detail |
I would certainly hope that people would ignore me if I won the Guru and picked Link or some crap. --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
Agent M | Posted 2/2/2010 9:51:52 AM | message detail |
Losing Jecht wouldn't be much of a hit. Kinda like how we don't really need to see Cid again. Just because a character doesn't break 40% on a NN doesn't mean they're worthless. Meanwhile, a lot of characters that ARE worthless persist on making every contest. I'd say Cid is good, heck he held up better than Yoshi did. --- Signature |
KamikazePotato | Posted 2/2/2010 9:52:08 AM | message detail |
Cecil would be fine. --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
ShatteredElysium | Posted 2/2/2010 9:52:15 AM | message detail |
I
hope Tidus makes some sort of fightback even if he ultimately loses
just so things are at least interesting. Bored and need something to
keep me entertained! --- PSN ~ Soidisant |
ZFS | Posted 2/2/2010 9:52:19 AM | message detail |
I'm
not in the Guru thing, but someone who follows contests choosing a
Noble Nine character to nominate is pretty much asking for people to
rebel against the pick. --- wheresoever you go, go with all your heart |
-LusterSoldier- | Posted 2/2/2010 9:52:21 AM | message detail |
Massive spike for Tidus there. And then Tidus dropped off hard next update. Going from 337 to 394 and back down to 309 is weird. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as KrahenProphet, Guru Champ! |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 2/2/2010 9:52:28 AM | message detail |
It's a waste, I'd mouth of to sox, but we still gotta do it. That said, if I win, I might nominate Jill just to guarantee her a high seed. >_> It's between Jill, Bayonetta, and Sheik at this point. --- Yoblazer: http://i38.tinypic.com/2s024p4.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
Darth_Voltch | Posted 2/2/2010 9:52:41 AM | message detail |
Prof oak or Zell, hmmm, gotta win the guru! --- Join the Dark Side |
LeonhartFour | Posted 2/2/2010 9:52:48 AM | message detail |
I'm okay with not seeing Cid again as long as it's to replace him with Barret next year! --- "Spoil it for me. I'm never going to play that game so I want to know if he's going to be another Auron or another Sin." - Soul about Jecht vs. PW |
HaRRicH | Posted 2/2/2010 9:53:31 AM | message detail |
I
get the dissent about Guru-nomming a Noble Niner; I'm all about the
new-blood, too...but if you sign up for the Guru-contest knowing there
are certain characters you won't nominate, you shouldn't have signed up. --- T E A M C H O C O L A T E http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7355/64590879.png |
KamikazePotato | Posted 2/2/2010 9:53:32 AM | message detail |
If I won the Guru I would probably pick Gilgamesh or something. I don't know. I would have to think about it. --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 2/2/2010 9:53:39 AM | message detail |
It's between Jill, Bayonetta, and Sheik at this point. I'd be all for nominating Sheik as long as I know she's eligible. Someone would have to confirm that one with Bacon first. --- "I can set you free, mate." "My freedom was forfeit long ago!" |
nintendo girl | Posted 2/2/2010 9:53:46 AM | message detail |
From: Darth_Voltch | #016 Ngirl will embarass you too, somehow. ExTha doesn't even need embarrassing. He's about to get 2 consecutive losing matches! --- That's just BAD. |
ZFS | Posted 2/2/2010 9:54:11 AM | message detail |
Just
because a character doesn't break 40% on a NN doesn't mean they're
worthless. Meanwhile, a lot of characters that ARE worthless persist on
making every contest. I wasn't really saying Cid is worthless, he's just pointless to see again. He's not especially strong and it's just another FFVII character. You could honestly fill in some other random FF character in Cid's place and be fine. --- wheresoever you go, go with all your heart |
KamikazePotato | Posted 2/2/2010 9:54:44 AM | message detail |
I'd rather see Cid than any other FF7 guy because Cid is actually a good character! --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
Lightslayer987 | Posted 2/2/2010 9:54:59 AM | message detail |
From: HaRRicH | #032 If the winner decides to troll everyone, we get to troll him back by refusing to nominate it. --- http://i47.tinypic.com/28gtj5g.jpg Albion Hero is the Cream of Loli Fanboyism |
ZFS | Posted 2/2/2010 9:55:20 AM | message detail |
Cid a good character I don't think so! --- wheresoever you go, go with all your heart |
TheCodeisBosco | Posted 2/2/2010 9:55:26 AM | message detail |
I've
never participated in the Guru, but if I did, I'd be willing to
nominate Crono. That having been said, it'd certainly be a wasted
opportunity - like KP said, it's best used on new characters and
veterans at risk of being excluded. There are a bunch of characters I'd consider choosing, personally. It'd probably end up being Jimmy T. from WarioWare, but then there's Marin, Fulgore, Kamek, New Age Retro Hippie... and The Blue Marble, of course! --- KRATOS > CHARIZARD: Somehow, I found an upset even dumber than Fawful > GlaDOS. |
nintendo girl | Posted 2/2/2010 9:55:38 AM | message detail |
http://www.myds.com.au/img/game/large/Chibi-Robo-Park-Patrol-2.jpg Chibi-Robo. Had an awesome GameCube game and then a follow up DS game. They were however, incredibly rare and because they look like kid's games and the main concept is tidying/cleaning/doing chores it got cast aside by gamers. --- Sad. |
Redtooth | Posted 2/2/2010 9:55:48 AM | message detail |
I'd
probably have to go Ecco. And I thought I'd nominate whatever the
winner decided, but after seeing some of you claim to renege for no
reason, I wouldn't feel bad ignoring whatever you choose even if I
liked it >_> --- I thought I'd never change, but FastFalcon beat me into shape! |
Lightslayer987 | Posted 2/2/2010 9:56:26 AM | message detail |
And as I've said before, I'd go for Crono's Mom. Best character from CT to not get into a contest yet. --- http://i47.tinypic.com/28gtj5g.jpg Albion Hero is the Cream of Loli Fanboyism |
Greyfeld | Posted 2/2/2010 9:56:55 AM | message detail |
I'd love to see Bayonetta in next year, but I'm 100% sure that she'd get voted off right away. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 2/2/2010 9:56:58 AM | message detail |
but then there's Marin, Fulgore, Kamek, New Age Retro Hippie... and The Blue Marble, of course! Glacius or nothing! --- "Hold on a minute! That testimony stinks!" "Witness! You can't just say 'Hello' and expect us to get anywhere! I want you to testify!" |
TheCodeisBosco | Posted 2/2/2010 9:57:02 AM | message detail |
Chibi-Robo is pretty awesome, though! Park Patrol was a great game. --- KRATOS > CHARIZARD: Somehow, I found an upset even dumber than Fawful > GlaDOS. |
KamikazePotato | Posted 2/2/2010 9:57:16 AM | message detail |
Ignoring
a Noble Niner pick for the Guru isn't 'for no reason'. I'm pretty sure
I've nominated every other Guru choice, even Toadette, and pretty much
everyone reneged on Toadette. --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
nintendo girl | Posted 2/2/2010 9:57:49 AM | message detail |
I'd
nominate anyone, be it a complete joke (Blue Marble), joke fodder
(Chibi-Robo), Edgers (Axel), Noble Nine or even Link himself. --- Don't expect me to be happy about it though. |
Fayt_Esteed | Posted 2/2/2010 9:58:27 AM | message detail |
Just
because a character doesn't break 40% on a NN doesn't mean they're
worthless. Meanwhile, a lot of characters that ARE worthless persist on
making every contest. Agreed. I'm STILL appalled that GUYBRUSH, of all people, not only continues to make the contests, but also at the fact that he's disgustingly overseeded. --- "Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia |
Darth_Voltch | Posted 2/2/2010 9:58:36 AM | message detail |
I'd
be mighty ****** if Link or Cloud got the noms, but there may be a
point for someone like Megaman X who needed the vote ins or Crono to
get a 2 seed, it's purely for placements in the bracket, rather than
testing new blood though. But a win's a win and you gotta respect that, not happy? Then you should have outpredicted the winner. --- Join the Dark Side |