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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 812

UltimaterializerX | Posted 1/31/2010 9:24:00 PM | message detail
The last Metroid is in captivity. The galaxy is at peace. And Samus can jump almost as high as Frog himself.

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~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~
www.gamefaqscontests.com

~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~
http://board8.wikia.com/

~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~
http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/
http://thengamer.com/xstats
http://thengamer.com/stats

~*Character Contest Histories (Thanks to Raven 2 for the info transfer)*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Contest_Histories

~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

~*All the match pics*~
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/index.php

~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages

~*Poll Start Times*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Character_Battle_8_Poll_Start_Times

~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~

SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them.

X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process.

Noble Nine - Link, Cloud, Sephiroth, Mario, Crono, Solid Snake, Sonic, Samus and Mega Man.

Near-Elite - The Squall, Auron, Tifa, Vincent, Zelda, Kirby, etc group that has come at, near or even ahead of Noble Nine characters in the past.

The Fodder Line - A final X-Stat value of 15% or below.

For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/31/2010 9:25:18 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2100

You forgot to include this!
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 1/31/2010 9:26:07 PM | message detail
From the same year in which Samus got SFFd by Mario!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/31/2010 9:26:33 PM | message detail
She did? I don't remember that! Nobody ever talks about it!
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 1/31/2010 9:58:19 PM | message detail
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Anagram | Posted 1/31/2010 9:58:48 PM | message detail
She did? I don't remember that! Nobody ever talks about it!

Much of the board thought Samus would beat Mario, so once he stomped her easily, people didn't talk about it.
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AppreciateTrees | Posted 1/31/2010 9:59:26 PM | message detail
Someone tell me why Phoenix is considered the underdog.
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ZFS | Posted 1/31/2010 10:00:25 PM | message detail
i just remembered samus was involved in the worst match ever damn you samus

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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/31/2010 10:00:53 PM | message detail
Samus/Squall was a pretty awful match, I agree.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 1/31/2010 10:01:21 PM | message detail
A list of all the junk you need to collect in DK64:

Item: Five-hundred (500) bananas per level, color-coded and thus only collectable by the appropriate character. These are spent to unlock a boss in each level. Item: Banana coins, used as currency to buy new moves, also colour-coded so that only one character can collect each different color. Item: Twenty-five (25) golden bananas per level, five per character, used to unlock the entrances to new levels on the hub. Item: Five (5) blueprint pieces per level, which are worth one golden banana for each handed in, and give you extra time to complete the final level. Also color-coded! Item: Five (5) banana medals per level, one per character, earned by completing a mini-game for each character and used to unlock the Jetpak game. Item: Two (2) banana fairies per level, and four (4) in the hub, used for unlocking items in the bonus menu. Item: One (1) battle crown per level, and two (2) in the hub, earned by completing a mini-game in which you kill a bunch of enemies, used to unlock a door in the final level. Item: One (1) Boss Key per level, usually found by defeating a boss, used to unlock the final boss fight. Item: One (1) Rareware coin, earned for reaching a particular score in an emulated version of Rare's first game, Jetpak for the ZX Spectrum. Item: One (1) Nintendo coin, earned for completing eight boards of an emulated version of the Donkey Kong arcade game. Both coins are used to unlock a door in the final level that contains a Boss Key. And all of this is ignoring the ammo for weapons, the musical instrument charges for special music-based attacks, the orange grenades for ****s 'n' giggles, the banana-skin film for photographing (and thus acquiring) the banana fairies, and the crystal coconuts for special movement abilities.

* If you've noticed that the battle crowns and banana medals are pretty much the same thing, give yourself a point.
* If you've noticed that the two branded coins appear to be rewards for going through Rare's cheap filler, give yourself a point.
* If you've noticed that the battle crowns and branded coins have the exact same job, give yourself a point.
* If you've noticed that the blueprints are pretty much equivalent to a golden banana, and thus could safely have been a golden banana so long as you found some other way to do the time-limit, give yourself a point.
* If you've noticed that you basically have to go through the same level five times to get everything, give yourself a point.
* If you've noticed that there are more varieties of ammo for weapons and abilities than there are for most first-person shooters, give yourself a point.
* If you've noticed that a platform game appears to have grenades, something that makes absolutely no sense for a genre where health is plentiful and enemies mostly only have melee attacks, give yourself a point.
* If you've noticed that Rare is really flogging the banana theme for all they're worth, and are wondering why they didn't come up with anything else that could appeal to gorillas (for instance, the original Donkey Kong was awfully fond of Pauline), give yourself a point.

Now, add up your score. If you scored 1 or higher, congratulations! You scored higher than Rare's designers did.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 1/31/2010 10:01:29 PM | message detail

From: ZFS | Posted: 2/1/2010 1:00:25 AM | #008
i just remembered samus was involved in the worst match ever damn you samus


Pretty much all the 4way matches tie for worst ever.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 1/31/2010 10:01:29 PM | message detail
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Team Rocket Elite | Posted 1/31/2010 10:02:18 PM | message detail
Someone tell me why Phoenix is considered the underdog.

He wouldn't be Phoenix if he wasn't the underdog. <_<
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YoAriel33 | Posted 1/31/2010 10:02:27 PM | message detail
Hey, I didn't realize we've got four pretty good matches in a row.

I'm still feeling confident in Jill, but we can at least use that one to help gauge whether Wesker received a nice boost or whether Ken just bombed. Roxas/Heavy got a bit more interesting after Spy's performance, and then we've got two of the most debated R1 matches in a row. Should be fun.
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ZFS | Posted 1/31/2010 10:02:36 PM | message detail
Actually didn't involve Squall or four-ways!

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2070

argh

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red sox 777 | Posted 1/31/2010 10:02:37 PM | message detail
Wow, Samus just keeps rising. Over 81% and still going.....
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SHINE GET 64 | Posted 1/31/2010 10:03:26 PM | message detail
yep I got everything in DK64 except for one colored banana for Tiny Kong in stage...5 or 6....I think. I couldn't find it for the life of me.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/31/2010 10:03:31 PM | message detail

From: ZFS | #015
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2070


Oh yeah, that one was pretty bad, although I've only come to realize this recently!
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/31/2010 10:04:09 PM | message detail
The Prince of Persia is winning in Iran!
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/31/2010 10:04:24 PM | message detail
This...may be a bad idea, but does anyone else get the impression that Samus would win a Mario/Samus rematch? 2k5 Mario was on major roids thanks to everyone loving Nintendo at the time. I think now that that love has worn off, he won't have nearly the bite that he did back then, both with the SFF hammer and in normal strength.

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YoAriel33 | Posted 1/31/2010 10:04:45 PM | message detail

From: SHINE GET 64 | #017
yep I got everything in DK64 except for one colored banana for Tiny Kong in stage...5 or 6....I think. I couldn't find it for the life of me.


I got everything in that game. Every. Last. Motherflippin thing. And then I turned the game on a year later and my save file was corrupted. Never touched the damn game again.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 1/31/2010 10:05:34 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | Posted: 2/1/2010 1:04:24 AM | #020
This...may be a bad idea, but does anyone else get the impression that Samus would win a Mario/Samus rematch?


No. Never.
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YoAriel33 | Posted 1/31/2010 10:06:31 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #020
This...may be a bad idea, but does anyone else get the impression that Samus would win a Mario/Samus rematch? 2k5 Mario was on major roids thanks to everyone loving Nintendo at the time. I think now that that love has worn off, he won't have nearly the bite that he did back then, both with the SFF hammer and in normal strength.


I wish, but nope. Mario beat Samus last year despite Link in the poll, and I would assume Link would hurt Mario more due to their status as Nintendo's two biggest icons. It might not be a 60/40 again, but I don't see Samus threatening.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 1/31/2010 10:06:42 PM | message detail
I got most of it :/ I know enough to beat the final boss(which was actually pretty cool!). But man, looking back on it...I can't believe I had the attention span to go through that. SO MANY STUPID MINIGAMES!!!!!
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 1/31/2010 10:07:10 PM | message detail
This...may be a bad idea, but does anyone else get the impression that Samus would win a Mario/Samus rematch?

Not a chance.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/31/2010 10:07:12 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #020
This...may be a bad idea, but does anyone else get the impression that Samus would win a Mario/Samus rematch? 2k5 Mario was on major roids thanks to everyone loving Nintendo at the time. I think now that that love has worn off, he won't have nearly the bite that he did back then, both with the SFF hammer and in normal strength.


She probably doesn't get 60/40'd, but I don't see her winning.

But I'd laugh gleefully until the end of time if she ever did, and I don't even like Samus!
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/31/2010 10:07:20 PM | message detail
Well, she broke 46% on him last year. Doubt she can make up the remaining distance though, and it's possible Link affected things in that match (although it's very unusual for the bottom character in a Triple SFF ladder to stand up well like Samus did.....usually the SFF is magnified and the character at the bottom of Triple SFF gets annhilated).
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/31/2010 10:08:29 PM | message detail
But yeah, the same reasoning as in 2005 applies: Can you imagine the average Nintendo fan voting for Samus over Mario?
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YoAriel33 | Posted 1/31/2010 10:09:39 PM | message detail
Samus is kinda the Big 3's odd man out. She's not a gaming legend in the same sense the other two are; she just kicks lots of ass and has an incredibly appealing design. I think a few people were expecting her to hold up well in that match, and she didn't disappoint.
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KanzarisKelshen | Posted 1/31/2010 10:10:51 PM | message detail

From: YoAriel33 | Posted: 2/1/2010 1:09:39 AM | #029
Samus is kinda the Big 3's odd man out. She's not a gaming legend in the same sense the other two are; she just kicks lots of ass and has an incredibly appealing design. I think a few people were expecting her to hold up well in that match, and she didn't disappoint.


As an aside, having three tiers of three in the NN is great. You've got Clinkeroth, the Big Three, and the Loser's Club. All good names, too.
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YoAriel33 | Posted 1/31/2010 10:10:55 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #028
But yeah, the same reasoning as in 2005 applies: Can you imagine the average Nintendo fan voting for Samus over Mario?


Honestly, it's easier to imagine now that the average Nintendo fan doesn't even like Nintendo. I voted for Mario in 2005. My vote easily goes to Samus today.
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/31/2010 10:12:36 PM | message detail
I voted for Mario in 2005. My vote easily goes to Samus today.

Same here!
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 1/31/2010 10:13:32 PM | message detail

From: KanzarisKelshen | #030
As an aside, having three tiers of three in the NN is great. You've got Clinkeroth, the Big Three, and the Loser's Club. All good names, too.


Even though I love the characters in the worst group more than the other two, I fully endorse those names ^_^
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/31/2010 10:13:49 PM | message detail
Fine, fine.

Another random thought: Zelda and Mega Man seem to have a bigger overlap than Mega Man and other Nintendo stuff. LoZ fodderized MMX in the series contest, Link embarrassed Mega Man back in...2k4 I think, and in 2k8 Mega Man X had his worst showing against Mario when Link was in the poll.

Basically what this is leading up to is the fact that Link can potentially meet both Mega Mans, which could really screw up the first 1 v 1 X-stats we've had in years.

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red sox 777 | Posted 1/31/2010 10:15:44 PM | message detail
Well, Megaman also destroyed Yoshi with SFF pretty badly in 2005. But yes, Link's going to rampage through his side of the bracket. MMX, Luigi, Sonic, Mario........the upper half of the bracket is going to look like a joke when Link is through with it.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 1/31/2010 10:17:22 PM | message detail
Nonono, Ganondorf has to make it out of his division just for the Link match.
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/31/2010 10:19:41 PM | message detail
Nonono, Ganondorf has to make it out of his division just for the Link match.

Link will win blowout of the contest yet!
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/31/2010 10:20:45 PM | message detail
I don't think Ganondorf beats Kirby, even if he beats Sonic. Nintendo villain vs. Nintendo hero never turns out well for the villain.

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ZFS | Posted 1/31/2010 10:23:32 PM | message detail
Now Kirby is someone who should not be as popular as he is. That one confuses me.

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RPGuy96 | Posted 1/31/2010 10:23:46 PM | message detail
I'm hoping so, because I have Kirby > Ganondorf > Sonic, but you never know. Ganondorf did beat Luigi in a more or less fair match (more fair than the match Luigi won in, anyway).
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 1/31/2010 10:25:59 PM | message detail
I voted Samus in 2005, and I'd vote for her again in a rematch. I always vote for who I like more, no matter what my bracket says.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/31/2010 10:26:24 PM | message detail
Kirby? Kirby has awesome games, absolutely adorable, cool powers, 100% likable. he deserves all his popularity.

Personally, I've always thought Yoshi was the weird one. He's just the dinosaur Mario rides, barely has any games of his own...

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ZFS | Posted 1/31/2010 10:29:23 PM | message detail
Kirby sux. Never been a fan of his games either -- and they don't seem too popular to begin with.

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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 1/31/2010 10:29:54 PM | message detail
Yeah, I like Yoshi and all, but I've never quite gotten why he's so many peoples favorite... like when my friends would pick him for Party or Kart it's just like... what?
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/31/2010 10:31:33 PM | message detail
Kirby is really popular with everyone I've known, though. If you're in a large group of people playing Smash and you pick Kirby, you're guaranteed to get some cheers.

Never seen that with Yoshi, personally.

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red sox 777 | Posted 1/31/2010 10:32:50 PM | message detail
Kirby is a puffball who is happy and carefree. Lots of people like that.
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HSGF_2 | Posted 1/31/2010 10:33:28 PM | message detail
A little trivia for you guys. Name all the characters who have scored greater than 90% on at least 2 other characters in 1v1s.
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/31/2010 10:34:13 PM | message detail
I think that would be Megaman alone. Am I right?
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 1/31/2010 10:34:14 PM | message detail
I think Solid Snake might be the only one, but let me check.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 1/31/2010 10:34:27 PM | message detail
Or Mega Man in 2002.
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