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Oh man, I just have to take this one.


He's still stronger than Mega Flop and Cranus.

Mega Man did as good on Cid Highwind as Sonic did on Lightning. Crono managed to beat Vincent last year, while Sonic lost to Kirby.


Both of which he outclassed in the last 1v1, and both of which have dropped way more than he could have in the last two years.

The last time MM and Sonic met 1 v 1, Mega Man won. Also, MM and Crono have done nothing to offend the general gaming populace in the last several years. Sonic has. He has much more reason to drop.

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KrahenProphet lived up to his name.

We don't know lightning or cid's strength. That's one thing you're forgetting.
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Nominate Red XIII for the Character Battle VII!
He's the Lion with a fire tail from Final Fantasy VII.

Lightning is from a game that hasn't been released yet. Cid Highwind is a Final Fantasy VII party member. I would be very, very surprised if Cid wouldn't beat Lightning comfortably.

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KrahenProphet lived up to his name.

Well, we don't know. FF13 is very hyped, and she's seems to be the first widely liked main FF character in a long time. Just look at the boost MC got before Halo 3 was even out. He was near N9 lvl.
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Nominate Red XIII for the Character Battle VII!
He's the Lion with a fire tail from Final Fantasy VII.

Ulti I was joking about you taking Kratos to the end of this division.

Also KP, you are putting far too much stock in the 4 ways (just like everyone else did) and you'll pay for it. Sonic would never lose to Kirby in a 1v1. Also Sonic lost to MM in a very close match in 05, then beat Crono (who beat Mega Man) in 06.

If Sonic has reason to drop, Mega Man and Crono have even more reason to drop (and considering how bad CC characters have done this contest, if MM doesn't lose to Zack, Crono will likely lose to Bowser.) Sonic on the other hand is constantly gaining exposure (usually geared towards a younger generation, and as more of them start coming to this site I think his strength will only increase.) Eventually we are going to see the effects of shifting demographics, and I think Sonic is going to continue to stay strong with the times (Mega Man might have an argument to do the same, but Crono is going to be out of it soon enough.)

Sonic will always be stronger than Mega Man and Crono at this point, unless something drastic happens.

Also I would take Lightning (the female cloud) over Cid. Prove to me that there's ample evidence this shouldn't be true (aside from you believing MM > Sonic.)
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Curt - PSN - CPhoenixM
I am the master of my fate; I am the captain of my soul.

Sonic would probably have defeated Kirby if it wasn't for the bandwagon anyways.
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Character Battle VIII - 22/30 - Today's Winners: Charizard and Kratos

It was fanboyism. I love Kratos, but I did kind of want to take THE ZARD.
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Even if you ignore 4-ways, Sonic has been stronger than Crono and Megaman 1 year out of 5, and wasn't projected to beat either with more than 51%. He may beat Ganon and Kirby- but the real test of his worthiness as a Noble Niner would be to face characters like Vincent and Squall.
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6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....

Yeah I took Charizard, but I had considered taking Kratos and was a bit worried before his match.
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Curt - PSN - CPhoenixM
I am the master of my fate; I am the captain of my soul.

I only took Charizard > Kratos to be consistent with Red > MMX. Well, that's -2 points for Red > MMX, and +6 points for Charizard > Kratos, so it was a net gain for me.
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6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....

Well red, how do you think mm/crono would fair against vincent/squall? In 2k6, if I recall, MM was placed to beat vincent by less then a % if I recall. Crono by a tiny bit more. Since then, there is evidence of Crono dropping a bit.
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Nominate Red XIII for the Character Battle VII!
He's the Lion with a fire tail from Final Fantasy VII.

But why does he have to face them for the real test when characters like Crono and Mega Man have much easier opponents? Crono faces Yoshi as his stiffest test, while Mega Man's is Zack. Why, when Sonic has already beaten Crono in the most recent 1v1, does Sonic have to prove himself as opposed to the opposite? Same goes for Mega Man (who lost to Crono in the last 1v1 before Sonic beat Crono.)

I feel like because 4 ways were introduced it was like an excuse for people to hope Crono and Mega Man got better, or stayed constant, whereas Sonic dropped. I understand that people on this board really love Crono and Mega and tend not to like Sonic for whatever reason...but I don't see why he has this extra onus.

Sonic > Crono > Mega Man until proven otherwise in 1v1.
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Curt - PSN - CPhoenixM
I am the master of my fate; I am the captain of my soul.

While I would argue that Zack is going to beat Mega Man, I still think that statistically speaking, Ganon and Kirby are stiffer tests than Zack and Yoshi. So it's hardly a fair burden to put on Sonic that he has to face Squall or Vincent to prove his worthiness of the N9 title.
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Curt - PSN - CPhoenixM
I am the master of my fate; I am the captain of my soul.

Sorry, my mistake. Snake beat Mega Man that year, but Sonic did better against Snake than MM did.
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Curt - PSN - CPhoenixM
I am the master of my fate; I am the captain of my soul.

http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/picard-facepalm.jpg

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KrahenProphet lived up to his name.

Well red, how do you think mm/crono would fair against vincent/squall? In 2k6, if I recall, MM was placed to beat vincent by less then a % if I recall. Crono by a tiny bit more. Since then, there is evidence of Crono dropping a bit.

Crono beat Vincent last year by the narrowest of margins, so he's equal with him for now. Megaman hasn't been tested in a long time, I'll grant you that, but 63% on Cid is pretty impressive. I actually thought MM did alright against Snake last year, considering Zero was in the poll, but it was hard to tell due to the LFF.

But why does he have to face them for the real test when characters like Crono and Mega Man have much easier opponents? Crono faces Yoshi as his stiffest test, while Mega Man's is Zack. Why, when Sonic has already beaten Crono in the most recent 1v1, does Sonic have to prove himself as opposed to the opposite? Same goes for Mega Man (who lost to Crono in the last 1v1 before Sonic beat Crono.)

He doesn't have to face the Square near-elites to prove himself. He just has to beat up Ganon and Kirby with big margins, and/or do well on Link.
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6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....

Ganondorf was never that far off from Sonic. At least not by looking at 2k6. About 4%. If Sonic can win by at least that much, I think people will perhaps realize he has retained his strength. A 45-55 win over kirby would seem good too. Though, that's just me.
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Nominate Red XIII for the Character Battle VII!
He's the Lion with a fire tail from Final Fantasy VII.

ya though, continuing from my last post. What % do you guys think sonic has to score on both kirby/ganon to solidify his place in the n9?
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Nominate Red XIII for the Character Battle VII!
He's the Lion with a fire tail from Final Fantasy VII.

From: Sonic_Factor | #167
A 45-55 win over kirby would seem good too.

No, it wouldn't. It would make Ganon look bad (depending on how well he did) and Sonic would still be a laughing stock.

Or if you meant 55-45 like I think you did, then it makes Sonic look marginally good.
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The Gamer In Me
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ya though, continuing from my last post. What % do you guys think sonic has to score on both kirby/ganon to solidify his place in the n9?

Over 50.
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Oh, sorry, I got distracted by KrahenProphet.
http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=99

From: Sonic_Factor | #168
ya though, continuing from my last post. What % do you guys think sonic has to score on both kirby/ganon to solidify his place in the n9?

Pig Ganon: 55+%
Kirby: 54+%
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The Gamer In Me
"Ike and Ash and co. saw a Yoshi and didn't catch it" - Mer telling us his dream

55-45 would make Sonic look decent, but it's still far below what he was projected to get on Kirby in 2006 (62%). There's a pretty good case to be made that Ganon and Zelda were riding TP hype in 2006 and fell off a good deal after, so Sonic getting 55% on Ganon wouldn't mean he was still at his 2006 level, especially with Bacondorf. 60-40 would make Sonic look pretty good.
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6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....

I think there's a lot of underestimation of Lightning going on here. People say here game's not out yet, which sounds like they're comparing her to Sackboy. But she's the main character of Final Fantasy XIII, a much-hyped game that's already out in Japan as well as the first FF, if I'm not mistaken, to have an initial release on more than one console. Add in the fact that we have ample evidence to suggest that a character is stronger during the hype before a release then after, as well the fact that Lightning herself seems to be pretty well-received already, and it's not unreasonable to suggest that Sonic actually did fine in his match against her.

Tail's comparative success underscores that Sonic Team hasn't all dropped down to midcarder/fodder status like some of the hyperbole here suggests. Knuckles' bomb could be explained by Dissidia and as for Shadow, I think his popularity has dropped the most because more and more people see him as the personification of Sega's bad decision making over the last ten years.

Of course I haven't run any numbers, so I don't know how strong Lightning would have to be in order for Sonic to look good-to-decent. But given the ambiguities of these things, I think she has a wide range and a very high ceiling. In any case, I think the jury's still out on Sonic Team, as well as Lightning and the Dissidia boost for that matter.
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Congrats to Krahenprophet for his well-deserved victory.

FFXIII hype isn't that big on this site right now though, come march it'll be the talk of town, but right now it ain't so hot.
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Shakes Fist!

The vote-in poll actually did a very good job of predicting Sonic/Lightning, though it could have been coincidence, so take it as you will. Lightning got 48% on Axel in that poll, who got 30% on Megaman in 2006 and went even with Frog in 2007.
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6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....

Axel's boosting a bit though, KH 358/2's just gonna refresh people's memory on how awesome he is.
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Shakes Fist!

KH 179 Days should not exist.
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Roxas and Axel are awesome in 358/2 Days.

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KrahenProphet lived up to his name.

you think too much stuff shouldn't exist, if you had it your way, we'd be l;iving in a barren wasteland with occasional areas where melee and FF Tactics can be found.
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Shakes Fist!

Aggro was awesome in Shadow of the Colossus. Says nothing of whether or not the game should exist.
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This was a triumph.

Kratos isn't even going to double Tails... Pathetic.
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"Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia

and Fire Emblem installments annually
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holy crap, you used an apostrophe to make a word plural at least 3 times in that post. that's like cryptonite to me if I was batman - Bako Ikporamee

What in the world happened in this topic?
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"But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside."
"I am lightning...the rain transformed."

I turned up.
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Shakes Fist!

The problem in this topic isn't with you!

Seriously, what was the last two pages of "discussion," if it can be termed that?
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"But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside."
"I am lightning...the rain transformed."

*starts reading topic*

aw come on, i could understand us getting bored and going off on a tangent during laharl/neku, but this match sets up a potentially very interesting charizard/kratos match where charizard appears to be the fav, yet GoW 3 can bail kratos out, seriously i didn't get the lightning talk, but now aw man, not kewl, eddie/ratchet will be worse methinks now.
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Shakes Fist!

Whats to talk about? Neither Char or Kratos doubled their respective opponents, but Charizard definitely outshined him and will probably win against Kratos.

And thats it. *shrugs*
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holy crap, you used an apostrophe to make a word plural at least 3 times in that post. that's like cryptonite to me if I was batman - Bako Ikporamee

Though in retrospect, Kratos was benefitting from SFF in all the matches he won...
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"Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia

I'd still pick Kratos purely because of the hype his game will generate.
it's already close and this could be the difference maker.
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Shakes Fist!

From: voltch | #190
I'd still pick Kratos purely because of the hype his game will generate.
it's already close and this could be the difference maker.

The new Pokemon game is closer >_>
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holy crap, you used an apostrophe to make a word plural at least 3 times in that post. that's like cryptonite to me if I was batman - Bako Ikporamee

Kratos is doing so heartwarmingly awful there there really isn't much to talk about wrt to Charizard/Kratos. The hype kinda died on that one.
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Hype can only do so much, especially when you think he should have some hype right now.
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Character Battle VIII - 22/30 - Today's Winners: Charizard and Kratos

Holy ****. I was worried looking at those old polls that Kratos would be much weaker than I expected him to be (that'll teach me to actually do research next time I make a big upset), but this is horrible. Kratos is close to Donkey Kong's level right now. Kratos > L-Block in 2007 almost looks like a fluke since L-Block should have little trouble beating him in a rematch now. Charizard went from the underdog to the huge favorite and ready to make another epic RBY run.

And how the hell is Tails the most impressive Sonic character in this thing? The guy who's biggest achievement prior to this was...

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1763

Wow, he got that on Dante?

OK, maybe Tails overperforms on badasses or something. Definitely seemed stronger in 1v1's, even if he hasn't been in one since 2004.
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Not Wylvane

And how the hell is Tails the most impressive Sonic character in this thing? The guy who's biggest achievement prior to this was...

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1763

Wow, he got that on Dante?

OK, maybe Tails overperforms on badasses or something. Definitely seemed stronger in 1v1's, even if he hasn't been in one since 2004.

I'd say that this isn't so much as Tails impressing as it is Kratos flopping hardcore.
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"Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia

Kratos > L-Block in 2007 almost looks like a fluke since L-Block should have little trouble beating him in a rematch now.

L-Block wasn't nearly as strong in the opening rounds of the 2007 contest as he is now. Winning a contest and smashing Link and Cloud will do that for you- the block gave Gamefaqs contests more exposure than ever they've gotten.
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6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....

That Dante was before DMC3/4, the one who lost handily to Ryu, not the one who put 46% on Vincent.
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holy crap, you used an apostrophe to make a word plural at least 3 times in that post. that's like cryptonite to me if I was batman - Bako Ikporamee

Dante ain't bosting though, Ryu's reaching saturation at this point though, MvC2 on psn/live, SSFIV, SFIV and TvC, no one game ought to give him a giga boost, but as a collective whole he's become the face of fighting again to the point where he's becoming an icon again.
So Dante may be the fav, but Ryu's got sooooo much exposure, that's gotta count for something.
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Shakes Fist!

For the record, people who mark use of the word "rape" in CS&D are BAD PEOPLE.
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****ing warned.

Kratos > L-Block in 2007 almost looks like a fluke since L-Block should have little trouble beating him in a rematch now.

I would probably take L-Block over Kratos now if they were to somehow meet up again. Tails is pulling of a higher percentage on Kratos than he did against WCC last year. I would probably place L-Block slightly below WCC based on how they both did last year.

WCC scored 68.50% on Tails last year, though I have to wonder about the role of Donkey Kong possibly LFFing Tails a bit. We've seen Nintendo cause some problems for the Sonic Team, most notably Link last year with Zidane beating out Shadow.
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