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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 810

charmander6000 | Posted 1/31/2010 6:52:41 AM | message detail
Match XXXII: (2) Kratos vs. (15) Miles “Tails” Prower

Information

Name: Kratos
Game/Series: God of War
Previous Contest: 2008
Performance: 4th in round 3

Name: Miles “Tails” Prower
Game/Series: Sonic the Hedgehog
Previous Contest: 2008
Performance: 4th in round 1

Analysis

Usually the thirty second match would be the half way point of this contest; however for this contest it marks the half way point of the first round. I don’t think anyone can disagree that the contest so far has been exciting. Also with it being 12-hours it feels a lot more fast paced and unlike what some people feared the differences between night and day matches haven’t been felt too much other than lower vote totals.

Even if the Sonic crew was at their best in this contest Tails wouldn’t have a chance at this match. Kratos has God of War III coming out in about a month with the game having decent hype. The Sonic team are 3 for 3 in bad performances meaning Tails will be like his 2008 self which means a thorough beating at the hands of one of the favourites of winning this division.

For Kratos to have a chance at taking the title he needs to score the biggest blowout among the favourites in this division. Tails is probably the weakest among the Midna, Frog, HK-47, Duke Nukem group and if he fails to break that bar he would need to hope that Tails is stronger than expected or for God of War III hype to increase exponentially as the contest progresses. Breaking 70% would probably put him in a great position.

Last year Tidus had no problems doubling Tails which means I feel that Kratos is strong enough to hit that mark. Blowouts have been pretty infrequent in this contest due to the vote-ins, but my faith in the Sonic crew is more or less gone and Kratos failing to hit that mark will probably be blamed on his incompetence rather than Tails trying to look respectable.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Kratos > Miles “Tails” Prower

charmander6000’s Prediction: Kratos wins, 72.56% - 27.44%

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Character Battle VIII - 22/30 - Today's Winners: Charizard and Kratos
EternalxCourage | Posted 1/31/2010 7:01:59 AM | message detail
I'm predicting a good showing from Tails. At least 30%.

Also Ezio > Charizard is a lock in my mind.
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Biolizard28 | Posted 1/31/2010 7:02:58 AM | message detail
Ezio isn't even meeting Charizard.
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Achromatic | Posted 1/31/2010 7:03:57 AM | message detail

From: EternalxCourage | #302
I'm predicting a good showing from Tails. At least 30%.

Also Ezio > Charizard is a lock in my mind.


Wha-
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Biolizard28 | Posted 1/31/2010 7:04:48 AM | message detail
Also, there's no reason to assume that Duke of all characters is as strong back then as he is now. It's lunacy.
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EternalxCourage | Posted 1/31/2010 7:05:40 AM | message detail
Someone said that Charizard > Ezio would be a lock. I am saying that Ezio > Charizard IS a lock in my mind. I know they aren't meeting -- but I think that Ezio is stronger.

Also he's going to look a lot better beating Zelda than Charizard is losing to Sora.
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Biolizard28 | Posted 1/31/2010 7:06:33 AM | message detail
Oh god you think Ezio is beating Zelda

I'm sorry for taking you seriously a moment ago.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 1/31/2010 7:07:48 AM | message detail
Ezio will be lucky to break 45%! Zelda's pretty high up there strength-wise.
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Sonic_Factor | Posted 1/31/2010 7:11:50 AM | message detail
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Sonic_Factor | Posted 1/31/2010 7:12:25 AM | message detail
pretty hilarious if you really think ezio > zelda. Zelda's an upper midcarder. Up there with vincent. You haven't even seen ezio battle yet, and I doubt he'll be stronger than altair.
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EternalxCourage | Posted 1/31/2010 7:13:39 AM | message detail
You act like I haven't been here since the first contest. @_@

Anyway, I know Zelda is 'pretty strong', although I know where all the strength comes from (her name.) But I'm taking Altair's win over Liquid at face value (well, slightly less, because Liquid didn't have MGS4 anymore, well he did but it wasn't as fresh), which puts Altair >>>> Zelda (considering Liquid was considered around the same strength as Zelda after last contest, and has never been seen as 60-40 to Zelda).

That said this is all resting on the assumption that Ezio is >= Altair. So, we'll see. But people that think Zelda > Ezio is a lock are just being ignorant (lol but we're talking about Bio here.)
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Sonic_Factor | Posted 1/31/2010 7:14:57 AM | message detail
Zelda > Ezio is a lock. I don't care if you been here since the first contest. It doesn't change the fact that your opinion is stupid.
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EternalxCourage | Posted 1/31/2010 7:17:45 AM | message detail
Zelda > Ezio is a lock based on what? How is it a stupid opinion? Rather than just throwing out 'insults' like a twelve year old actually provide some sort of reasoning behind your opinion. I've already done that part (many times.)
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 1/31/2010 7:18:53 AM | message detail
You're basing it based on a Liquid who may have been overrated in 2008. I'd at least wait and see how Altair does on Vivi and if Ezio can blowout Simon first before clamoring for Ezio > Zelda.
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Sonic_Factor | Posted 1/31/2010 7:19:52 AM | message detail
You haven't even seen Ezio battle for starters. Also you assume he's the same level as altair.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 1/31/2010 7:19:57 AM | message detail
By the way, how strong is Altair using 2007 Liquid?
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 1/31/2010 7:22:26 AM | message detail
I don't think Zelda > Ezio is as big of a lock as you folks think. I don't think Ezio wins, but I bet it's close.
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EternalxCourage | Posted 1/31/2010 7:31:43 AM | message detail
In '07 Liquid beat Alucard and then lost to Yuna and Master Chief. Take that as you will. After MGS4 came out, in '08, Liquid came second to Luigi in round 1 in a close match, and then in the second round beat Luigi (with Bowser in the poll) and then they both lost to Mario and Mega Man X.

So take what you will from it, but unless Liquid has dropped a whole ****load, Altair > Zelda.
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/31/2010 7:35:28 AM | message detail
Don't rush to say that Duke was a 4-way creation. Remember, people have been saying for years that Pokemon was a 4-way creation.

Also, Zelda is strong, but she isn't in Vincent's league anymore, she lost 56-44 to him in 2007.
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Sonic_Factor | Posted 1/31/2010 7:36:50 AM | message detail
So what's everyone opinion on vivi vs altair?
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/31/2010 7:38:20 AM | message detail

From: Sonic_Factor | #320
So what's everyone opinion on vivi vs altair?


Vivi has a chance, but Altair probably just wins easily.

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EternalxCourage | Posted 1/31/2010 7:40:56 AM | message detail
I'm expecting another 60 - 40. But it seems like FF has gotten a boost in general, and their characters are overperforming. So I wouldn't be surprised if Vivi does better than Liquid just based on the FF boost (people are attributing it to Dissidia, which Vivi wasn't in, but I still think it's more than that.)
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/31/2010 7:41:14 AM | message detail
Charizard did well to hold above 64%, but now he's struggling with the morning vote...? I blame Duke's picture.

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Gr8CyberMonkey | Posted 1/31/2010 7:44:14 AM | message detail
I never imagined that Duke would have the largest volume of whiners.
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Biolizard28 | Posted 1/31/2010 7:48:31 AM | message detail
Anyone think Duke could be overperforming due to the pic?
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/31/2010 7:49:03 AM | message detail
Extrapolating through Zack/Duke, Zack/Yuna, Yuna/Zelda, and Zelda/Vincent, Charizard is currently projected to get 50.01% on Vincent. Scary!
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charmander6000 | Posted 1/31/2010 7:58:00 AM | message detail
Also, there's no reason to assume that Duke of all characters is as strong back then as he is now. It's lunacy.

Not really. He was just above the fodder line back then and that is what he did in the previous contest.
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Character Battle VIII - 22/30 - Today's Winners: Charizard and Kratos
rpgapzx | Posted 1/31/2010 8:02:30 AM | message detail
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HaRRicH | Posted 1/31/2010 8:03:58 AM | message detail
Charizard's still ballin'. If you use Duke's one-on-one performances of any year he was in (2002-2004), 'Zard's on or just under Kirby's level...and Duke has looked better in recent years than back then, though it's hard to tell how much of that should be credited to four-ways.
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HaRRicH | Posted 1/31/2010 8:07:38 AM | message detail
Extrapolating through Zack/Duke, Zack/Yuna, Yuna/Zelda, and Zelda/Vincent, Charizard is currently projected to get 50.01% on Vincent. Scary!

Don't forget to use Vincent/Crono from 2007! =P
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charmander6000 | Posted 1/31/2010 8:09:26 AM | message detail
2004 Kirby wasn't as impressive as he is today. Also Duke hasn't really looked stronger in four-ways, people just underrated him in the previous two contests.
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Character Battle VIII - 22/30 - Today's Winners: Charizard and Kratos
LinkMarioSamus | Posted 1/31/2010 8:17:54 AM | message detail
Duke Nukem is probably another one of those characters who always disappoints when we place expectations on him, but impresses without expectations. Yet another strike against Freeman, and I'm afraid for his chances. GFNW to return...

As far as the whole Ezio thing, eh I don't even know how Ezio looks like (assuming he looks like Altair, but I dunno), but anyways Zelda is a high midcarder in these contests. She is probably on Tifa's level (if you assume Tifa is worth 45% on Samus..oh wait, isn't VINCENT worth 45% on the cybernetic woman...yeah, so Tifa is probably worth 40%. I still think Zelda is more popular here). If you want to assume Ezio is strong in these contests, I'd take him to score 45% at most. So far I'm still deciding on who to vote for based on bracket, favorites (only when I absolutely hate somebody, for instance I will be anti-voting all the KH characters and Squall), and/or joke purposes (e.g. voting for Freeman against Tifa if he makes it there, voting for Vincent over Sephiroth).
red sox 777 | Posted 1/31/2010 8:18:18 AM | message detail
Don't forget to use Vincent/Crono from 2007!

Charizard's actually projected to beat Crono 2007 right now. And what's even scarier is that Zelda probably dropped between 2006 and 2007, making Charizard look even stronger. And this is a night match too.......

Probably better not to overreact too much, but I'd feel pretty nervous about Crono/Charizard in the day.
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HaRRicH | Posted 1/31/2010 8:22:32 AM | message detail
It's all being too extrapolated through different years and formats to be efficient anyway...! Does today make you nervous about Missingno yet?
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charmander6000 | Posted 1/31/2010 8:24:41 AM | message detail
Missingno could have done well had it been given a weaker opponent. Charizard probably wins over the glitch, considering he has more going for him than Missingno.
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/31/2010 8:26:55 AM | message detail
I've been kind of nervous about Missingno since the bracket came out. 15% in a 12-way poll is no joke, or rather, it probably is the mark of a joke character. Missingno beat Lightning almost as badly as Sonic did with 2 other Pokemon in the poll, which is very impressive. Of course, it's a joke character in a 12-way poll, which is why Crono will almost certainly win easily, but it's scary nonetheless.
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HaRRicH | Posted 1/31/2010 8:54:24 AM | message detail
Yeah, and it's scarier when Mudkip -- another joke-Pokemon -- was in the poll as well as Toad. Crono should win though.


Charizard with 69.2%.
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EternalxCourage | Posted 1/31/2010 8:56:26 AM | message detail
I think people are over-rating Duke again. Do we really think that Duke would beat Cid and or Lightning? Or Liquid Snake? Come on.

I love how people can get all hyped about Charizard winning over a fodder char, but Altair destroying a universally accepted midcarder-highmidcarder means that they other character dropped because there's no way Altair is that strong. Confounding, really. Charizard won't beat Sora.
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nintendogirl1 | Posted 1/31/2010 8:59:05 AM | message detail
From: EternalxCourage | #338
I think people are over-rating Duke again. Do we really think that Duke would beat Cid and or Lightning? Or Liquid Snake? Come on.

I love how people can get all hyped about Charizard winning over a fodder char, but Altair destroying a universally accepted midcarder-highmidcarder means that they other character dropped because there's no way Altair is that strong. Confounding, really. Charizard won't beat Sora.


http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3277
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3292

Your choice.
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Biolizard28 | Posted 1/31/2010 8:59:50 AM | message detail
nintendogirl bringing the lethal doses of TRUTH
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Master Moltar | Posted 1/31/2010 9:00:12 AM | message detail
Kratos 20%

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Miles 'Tails' Prower 80%

4
TOTAL VOTES 5
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 1/31/2010 9:00:27 AM | message detail
lol Kratos' board vote.
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Biolizard28 | Posted 1/31/2010 9:00:30 AM | message detail
Kratos 27.27%

6
Miles 'Tails' Prower 72.73%

16

Never again
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Chaotic Mind | Posted 1/31/2010 9:00:33 AM | message detail
Vote Accepted
Kratos 45.45%

20
Miles 'Tails' Prower 54.55%

24
TOTAL VOTES 44
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GrapefruitKing | Posted 1/31/2010 9:00:47 AM | message detail
0_o why was Tails leading ??
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/31/2010 9:00:47 AM | message detail
Kratos 53.13% 68
Miles 'Tails' Prower 46.88% 60
TOTAL VOTES 128

Tails board vote?
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 1/31/2010 9:00:48 AM | message detail
oh god owned by ngirl.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/31/2010 9:00:49 AM | message detail
...that's some board vote for Kratos

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EternalxCourage | Posted 1/31/2010 9:01:51 AM | message detail
A niche character in a 4 way contest, that probably wouldn't get many more votes than that in any regular match (unless the opponent was of a relatively unknown level.)

Of course characters like Duke will do well in a 4way (kind of like L-Block.)

But I'm pretty sure that this poll already shows where Duke ranks in 1v1s.
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