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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 809

LeonhartFour | Posted 1/30/2010 9:22:28 AM | message detail
I'm not saying that he'll win, but the guy will probably get around the mid-forties on Charizard at least.

Only silly people who pick Charizard to go past round two don't think this!
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/30/2010 9:23:02 AM | message detail
I need Charizard to win.....have him losing in round 4.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 1/30/2010 9:23:06 AM | message detail
Plus Duke > Charizard would dethrone Cecil/Knux as my favorite match this contest.
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voltch | Posted 1/30/2010 9:23:29 AM | message detail
I expected duke to get 45, after the pic, i reckon 48, who the hell expects charizard to cruise to over 60?
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/30/2010 9:23:45 AM | message detail

From: Not_Wylvane | #049
Man, if Duke actually upsets Charizard, the stats topic and the board in general will descend into chaos.

I'm still convinced Charizard > Duke, but if Duke pulls this off... it will be so glorious.


they deserve it for overrating a character so much who has never even made a contest before

i mean seriously, how do you go from not making enough noms to get in, to beating kratos and sora like a lot of people are saying? o.O Boggles the mind how big of pokemon fanboys people are to be blinded that much
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Lightning Strikes | Posted 1/30/2010 9:24:32 AM | message detail
What's the point of having a fodder line at a decently strong(albeit choketastic) character?

I mean lots of people who would lose to Kefka can beat quite a few regulars. And remember, Arthas got beaten pretty badly yet the weaker Thrall put over 20% on Link-that's pretty respectable.
red sox 777 | Posted 1/30/2010 9:24:51 AM | message detail
Did you forget about Vincent?
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 1/30/2010 9:24:55 AM | message detail
i mean seriously, how do you go from not making enough noms to get in, to beating kratos and sora like a lot of people are saying?

how do you go from not making enough noms to get in to beating Dante and Magus like a lot of people are saying?

I say this as someone who has Duke > Char. >_>
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 1/30/2010 9:25:01 AM | message detail
Charizard just might break 60%. Duke lost to Marth, who lost to Donkey Kong pretty easily. If you think Charizard > Donkey Kong by even a slight amount and assuming Duke hasn't boosted or anything, it's possible.
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/30/2010 9:25:40 AM | message detail
In a 128 character bracket, more than half the field are going to be fodder. Otherwise in a 64-character bracket, there would be no fodder.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/30/2010 9:26:08 AM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #057
Did you forget about Vincent?


You mean the guy who couldn't get in due to the FFVII cap? Nothing prevented Charizard from getting in.
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voltch | Posted 1/30/2010 9:26:24 AM | message detail
in 64 there would still be fodder as guybrush would make the field.
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vcharon | Posted 1/30/2010 9:26:31 AM | message detail
Wow, looking good Isaac.
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charmander6000 | Posted 1/30/2010 9:26:32 AM | message detail
i mean seriously, how do you go from not making enough noms to get in, to beating kratos and sora like a lot of people are saying? o.O Boggles the mind how big of pokemon fanboys people are to be blinded that much

Vincent, Tifa, Zack...

Not impling anything, but expect those people to be your counter arguement.


I still think Red was much more overrated. At least Charizard had a chance to be decent.
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 1/30/2010 9:26:40 AM | message detail
In a 64 character bracket, we would have gotten Wesker doing better on Sonic than he did on Kefka in the first round.

....man.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/30/2010 9:27:38 AM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #064
i mean seriously, how do you go from not making enough noms to get in, to beating kratos and sora like a lot of people are saying? o.O Boggles the mind how big of pokemon fanboys people are to be blinded that much

Vincent, Tifa, Zack...

Not impling anything, but expect those people to be your counter arguement.


I still think Red was much more overrated. At least Charizard had a chance to be decent.


As I said, a cap. Nothing ever prevented Charizard.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 1/30/2010 9:27:45 AM | message detail
You mean the guy who couldn't get in due to the FFVII cap? Nothing prevented Charizard from getting in.

There was a cap of 10 Nintendo characters, just like there was a cap of 10 Square characters (Cloud, Sephiroth, Auron, Squall, Crono, Frog, Magus, Aeris/Tifa, Tidus, Kefka).
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/30/2010 9:28:11 AM | message detail
The other thing the fodder line is associated with is 20% on Link, or perhaps 20% on Base Link.
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Lightning Strikes | Posted 1/30/2010 9:28:40 AM | message detail
Felix's one match was more impressive than anything Isaac ever did until today, and even then, it's Isaac doubling Layton.

Felix would be a lot more interesting to see again than most other characters, even if he does pull a Ken.


Again, antivote. The fact that Felix's game had JUST come out may have helped, but there is NO reason for Felix to be any stronger than Isaac now.
charmander6000 | Posted 1/30/2010 9:28:42 AM | message detail
The other thing the fodder line is associated with is 20% on Link, or perhaps 20% on Base Link.

20% Base Link.
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Team Rocket Elite | Posted 1/30/2010 9:32:24 AM | message detail
As I said, a cap. Nothing ever prevented Charizard.

Nomination strength doesn't say much about how strong you really are. Not being able to get in sooner is defintely not a good sign, but it doesn't mean the character can't have a lot of strength.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 1/30/2010 9:32:34 AM | message detail

From: Lightning Strikes | #069
Felix's one match was more impressive than anything Isaac ever did until today, and even then, it's Isaac doubling Layton.

Felix would be a lot more interesting to see again than most other characters, even if he does pull a Ken.


Again, antivote. The fact that Felix's game had JUST come out may have helped, but there is NO reason for Felix to be any stronger than Isaac now.


GS2's the more popular game of the two, and Felix is a lot more notable a character than Isaac, plus he stands out more. The potential for Felix to be stronger than Isaac is there even if you ignore 2003. All Isaac really has on Felix is Brawl, and that didn't do any wonders for Shadow or Little Mac.
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Lightning Strikes | Posted 1/30/2010 9:32:48 AM | message detail
In a 128 character bracket, more than half the field are going to be fodder. Otherwise in a 64-character bracket, there would be no fodder.

Nah

The male side of CBV was only 32, cut out some stronger characters, and still had fodder. Fodder can quite easily get lots of nominations, I mean Layton didn't need to get voted in but say, Liquid Snake, did.

The other thing the fodder line is associated with is 20% on Link, or perhaps 20% on Base Link.

The latter is much better, but around 17-18% on Base Link would be ideal I think.
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/30/2010 9:33:43 AM | message detail

From: XxSoulxX | #067
You mean the guy who couldn't get in due to the FFVII cap? Nothing prevented Charizard from getting in.

There was a cap of 10 Nintendo characters, just like there was a cap of 10 Square characters (Cloud, Sephiroth, Auron, Squall, Crono, Frog, Magus, Aeris/Tifa, Tidus, Kefka).


In 2004 there was. That's it.
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voltch | Posted 1/30/2010 9:33:54 AM | message detail
tales characters are the perfect example of insane hardcore noms, but pathetic character strength.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 1/30/2010 9:35:00 AM | message detail
Tingle got in the 2006 Male Bracket.

Somehow, Tingle was in the Top 32 male nominations.

That should end all discussions of fodder making 64-character brackets.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 1/30/2010 9:35:29 AM | message detail
And he did that despite having larger breasts than half the female contestants!
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Lightning Strikes | Posted 1/30/2010 9:39:02 AM | message detail
GS2's the more popular game of the two, and Felix is a lot more notable a character than Isaac, plus he stands out more. The potential for Felix to be stronger than Isaac is there even if you ignore 2003. All Isaac really has on Felix is Brawl, and that didn't do any wonders for Shadow or Little Mac.

Whaaaaaaaaaaat

Seriously, Isaac is far more prominent in the games than Felix. The fact that he talks in TLA helps a lot-while Felix spoke in 1 he wasn't really there much. But anyway, as I said Isaac is far more popular among the fandom and is the series main. GS2 is generally regarded by fans as better, but like most first games GS1 sold a bit better and should be stronger. Also, the fact that the lead of GS3 is a carbon copy(assuming it isn't actually him) of Isaac says a lot. Oh yeah, and Isaac's like, the best assist trophy in Brawl. Not that it would be MUCH of boost, but it's more than Felix has.

And of course, the fact that Isaac keeps getting in(6th seed no less) and Felix doesn't says quite a lot.
Fayt_Esteed | Posted 1/30/2010 9:41:36 AM | message detail
32, 64, 128 - it doesn't matter how many characters are in the contest, there'll always be fodder.
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Lightning Strikes | Posted 1/30/2010 9:41:58 AM | message detail
Also, screw Felix, next year let's go for the GS3 guy assuming he isn't actually Isaac.

On an unrelated note, Charizard was never really rallied and until 2006 Pokémon flat out could not get in except for Pikachu because Ceej was being silly.
red sox 777 | Posted 1/30/2010 9:45:56 AM | message detail
Sure, but there's going to be a lot more fodder in a 128 character bracket- way more than twice as many.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/30/2010 9:50:12 AM | message detail
is it just me or are the maps gone from the result page
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HaRRicH | Posted 1/30/2010 9:55:11 AM | message detail
Maps are gone, yeah.
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KingBartz | Posted 1/30/2010 10:00:32 AM | message detail
I am surprised Isaac is so high... a doubling is not what I expected.
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/30/2010 10:04:36 AM | message detail
Maps are back. I'm guessing it was because they're supposed to update every hour, and Bacon turned off live updates for the first hour.
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TheCodeisBosco | Posted 1/30/2010 10:07:51 AM | message detail
Whoa. I had a good feeling about Isaac, but I didn't think he'd completely destroy Layton like this.

Layton/Fawful. Who ya got?

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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/30/2010 10:08:19 AM | message detail
Uhhhh....

Layton, I guess.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 1/30/2010 10:09:15 AM | message detail
I'd pick Layton too. He's a lot more recognizable to those who haven't played either series, even if M&L is the bigger series here.
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Lightning Strikes | Posted 1/30/2010 10:15:25 AM | message detail
Layton.

Oh, and as expected, Layton's keeping it close in the UK. He's even winning in Scotland and Northern Ireland.
MarioSuperstar | Posted 1/30/2010 10:24:02 AM | message detail
Depends on how you expect Isaac/Glados to go.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/30/2010 10:29:11 AM | message detail
I'd expect GlaDOS to win, personally.
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TheCodeisBosco | Posted 1/30/2010 10:31:46 AM | message detail
I'd probably take GlaDOS as well, but that's a tough choice. As such, I'd probably choose Fawful over Layton... but of course, I've put too much confidence in Fawful in the past!

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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 1/30/2010 10:34:16 AM | message detail
Maps are back. I'm guessing it was because they're supposed to update every hour, and Bacon turned off live updates for the first hour.

Correct. They do update every hour.
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voltch | Posted 1/30/2010 10:53:45 AM | message detail
So uh, Isaac vs Magus, just want to know how low people think he's gone.
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Team Rocket Elite | Posted 1/30/2010 10:56:21 AM | message detail
I'll still go with Magus. At least until Golden Sun 3.
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LuniNutz99 | Posted 1/30/2010 11:00:45 AM | message detail
Magus definitely in that match.

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LOLContests | Posted 1/30/2010 11:01:10 AM | message detail
I'm happy that Isaac is as popular as I thought he could be! I knew he'd been getting SFFd all these years.

I do have to say that Isaac > Felix popularity wise. Looking at 2003, adjusting for Chief anti-votes and possible SFF with Samus the two seem about equal anyway, and that was when Golden Sun 2 was new and recent. It is the better game, but the original sold better and probably is more popular overall. Felix has better character development, but that's all he really has going for him. Isaac is a *SPOILERS*playable character*END SPOILERS* in the second game, while in the first game Felix only shows up now and then. I would definitely take Isaac both 1v1 and indirectly.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/30/2010 11:01:45 AM | message detail
Day match, I would take isaac.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/30/2010 11:06:41 AM | message detail
I'll still take Magus until I see how well Isaac does against the Block next round. This match really tells me nothing.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/30/2010 11:08:49 AM | message detail
Chart from the night match:

Time | L-Block | HK-47 | Votes
0:05 | 66.01% | 33.99% | 1265
1:00 | 65.24% | 34.76% | 9248
2:00 | 63.89% | 36.11% | 6201
3:00 | 61.99% | 38.01% | 4573
4:00 | 64.53% | 35.47% | 3592
5:00 | 63.42% | 36.58% | 2933
6:00 | 63.05% | 36.95% | 2563
7:00 | 64.33% | 35.67% | 2492
8:00 | 63.21% | 36.79% | 2786
9:00 | 63.36% | 36.64% | 3346
10:00 | 62.97% | 37.03% | 4267
11:00 | 63.77% | 36.23% | 4974
12:00 | 64.79% | 35.21% | 5118

L-Block's first hour is his best hour, as expected, but there wasn't much shift in the trends beyond that other than HK getting a 38% hour that he never really came close to matching again.
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