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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 809

UltimaterializerX | Posted 1/29/2010 9:39:15 PM | message detail
Lower thine guard, and thou'rt allowing the enemy in.

I don't care if Frog's match was yesterday.



~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~
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~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~
http://board8.wikia.com/

~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~
http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/
http://thengamer.com/xstats
http://thengamer.com/stats

~*Character Contest Histories (Thanks to Raven 2 for the info transfer)*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Contest_Histories

~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

~*All the match pics*~
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/index.php

~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages

~*Poll Start Times*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Character_Battle_8_Poll_Start_Times

~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~

SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them.

X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process.

Noble Nine - Link, Cloud, Sephiroth, Mario, Crono, Solid Snake, Sonic, Samus and Mega Man.

Near-Elite - The Squall, Auron, Tifa, Vincent, Zelda, Kirby, etc group that has come at, near or even ahead of Noble Nine characters in the past.

For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything.
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Anagram | Posted 1/29/2010 10:05:22 PM | message detail
I do, Ulti.



I do.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/29/2010 10:26:34 PM | message detail
Quite the night vote for the Block.
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nintendo girl | Posted 1/30/2010 12:26:41 AM | message detail
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Duke is dead.
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voltch | Posted 1/30/2010 9:07:34 AM | message detail
we? WE? you can go it alone.
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charmander6000 | Posted 1/30/2010 9:08:06 AM | message detail
So how many states does the All American Hero win tomorrow?
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 1/30/2010 9:09:21 AM | message detail
Tag
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/30/2010 9:10:11 AM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #007
So how many states does the All American Hero win tomorrow?


51.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/30/2010 9:11:02 AM | message detail
woo blow out time
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 1/30/2010 9:11:16 AM | message detail
Whoop.

This is getting decent votals, too. This certainly is no Laharl/Neku apathy match.

We really need to bring back Felix.
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Lightning Strikes | Posted 1/30/2010 9:11:16 AM | message detail
:D

Aww yeah, Isaac.

Yes it's only Layton but he is pretty high-end fodder, or at least he should be given that he's had a European release(Layton is HUGE here) and a sequel.
red sox 777 | Posted 1/30/2010 9:11:53 AM | message detail
Pikachu's percentage on Crono in round 4: 42.28%
Duke's percentage on Zack: 39.55%

Zack got 49% on Mario last year while Crono got 57%, but Crono was in a more favorable position with Samus instead of MMX, so Crono probably gets 55% or so on Zack. That matches up with Zack looking to be around Zelda level against Yuna pretty well.

If Charizard is at Pikachu's level, he shouldn't have any problems. If he's only at Mewtwo level, Duke has a great chance of winning this.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/30/2010 9:12:03 AM | message detail
Isaac is pretty high-end fodder.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 1/30/2010 9:12:04 AM | message detail
Of course, I voted for Layton. He's a pretty badass dude and I ****ing love puzzles.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 1/30/2010 9:13:00 AM | message detail
If he's only at Mewtwo level, Duke has a great chance of winning this.

Duke would beat Mewtwo?
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Lightning Strikes | Posted 1/30/2010 9:13:39 AM | message detail
Stop saying bring back Felix

Among the fandom, Isaac is more popular than Felix, more prominent than Felix, his main game came first, and he was in Brawl. Felix simply capitalised on a massive anti-vote. If it had been Isaac, maybe he would have even won.
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/30/2010 9:13:50 AM | message detail

From: MarioSuperstar | #016
If he's only at Mewtwo level, Duke has a great chance of winning this.

Duke would beat Mewtwo?


Eh, probably not. Charizard probably has to be at Lucario levels for Duke to win, and that ain't happening. Even with the pic advantage, I don't see Duke winning.
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voltch | Posted 1/30/2010 9:13:53 AM | message detail
Does Isaac have ads where girls aloud play with him? nooooo
Layton's a pimp.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/30/2010 9:14:04 AM | message detail
Bring back Felix
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 1/30/2010 9:14:24 AM | message detail
Yes it's only Layton but he is pretty high-end fodder

If Layton is high-end fodder this puts Isaac (and Lucario) at around Yoshi level, and Zack around Mega Man or something.

...

oh god GameZACKS
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 1/30/2010 9:14:50 AM | message detail
I think people are just overreacting at the pic. Duke lost to Marth of all people. Even Pokemon Trainer would probably beat Duke.
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HaRRicH | Posted 1/30/2010 9:14:58 AM | message detail
It's fun to think about how close Pikachu/Mewtwo could be; if you look at Ganon/Mewtwo and Luigi/Pikachu, it's hard to say there's a big difference between them. Pikachu's definitely had the more (legitimate) impressive performances between them though.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 1/30/2010 9:15:14 AM | message detail
Felix's one match was more impressive than anything Isaac ever did until today, and even then, it's Isaac doubling Layton.

Felix would be a lot more interesting to see again than most other characters, even if he does pull a Ken.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/30/2010 9:15:31 AM | message detail
Aw yeah Isaac rising to heaven

Break 70%!

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Not_Wylvane | Posted 1/30/2010 9:16:08 AM | message detail
And Isaac keeps climbing.

Climb to 70%!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/30/2010 9:16:09 AM | message detail
So Layton got the board vote, huh?
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 1/30/2010 9:16:16 AM | message detail
Duke lost to Marth of all people.

Altair would have lost to Marth last year.

You know, the guy who just 60/40'd Liquid.
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Team Rocket Elite | Posted 1/30/2010 9:16:31 AM | message detail
Score-Brackets-% Right
28------1------------100.0000000
27------25----------92.0000000
26------179--------96.0893855
25------616--------93.5064935
24------1334------92.0539730
23------2146------88.7232060
22------2846------85.4181307
21------3352------81.4140811
20------3458------77.2990168
19------3108------72.4581725
18------2612------65.8116386
17------2027------61.8154909
16------1394------54.6628407
15------922--------50.6507592
14------591--------49.7461929
13------340--------42.9411765
12------165--------40.0000000
11------94----------44.6808511
10------67----------31.3432836
9--------35----------28.5714286
8--------27----------25.9259259
7--------26----------7.6923077
6--------28----------3.5714286
5--------25----------4.0000000
4--------21----------4.7619048
3--------19----------0.0000000
2--------12----------0.0000000
1--------30----------3.3333333
0--------68----------7.3529412

We actually lost a few 0 brackets somehow. Other than that, a pretty normal round.

2 people fell off the Top 50 today. Firaga_Fighter and tazzyboyishere thought L-Block wouldn't be able to beat Hk-47 in 1 on 1 combat.

1 person got the match wrong and survived. Former second place manticore16 also thought L-Block would lose.
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/30/2010 9:16:32 AM | message detail
Duke faced Kefka, Altair, and Zack last year, and all of them have looked terrific this year. Duke being decent shouldn't be too surprising considering he put up 22% on Link last year, but people have been hesitant about taking that and Zack's 30% seriously.

As for Mewtwo, 25% on Cloud should be better than 22% on Link, but not by any huge amount. I'd take Mewtwo over Duke normally, but in a night match and with the picture Duke has, he could pull out a win.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/30/2010 9:17:00 AM | message detail
quite the board vote layton had
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charmander6000 | Posted 1/30/2010 9:17:12 AM | message detail
Even Pokemon Trainer would probably beat Duke.

The same guy who went even with Ocelot, lol no.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 1/30/2010 9:17:30 AM | message detail
Slightly behind Bowser/Frog, yet ahead of Master Chief/Spy.

I'm impressed these votals aren't Laharl/Neku bad. Go figure that Isaac and Layton could attract votes, especially since they're both handheld characters!
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/30/2010 9:17:36 AM | message detail
Ocelot>Duke

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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/30/2010 9:17:41 AM | message detail
if you look at Ganon/Mewtwo and Luigi/Pikachu, it's hard to say there's a big difference between them.

Yeah, but even though it's not by much, it does put Pikachu clearly ahead of Mewtwo. Mewtwo's never really had a performance that made me think he's stronger than Pikachu nowadays anyway.
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voltch | Posted 1/30/2010 9:17:51 AM | message detail
golden sun 2 is that big a boost without even being released?
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Lightning Strikes | Posted 1/30/2010 9:18:25 AM | message detail
The term "fodder" is used too lightly. According to this Isaac would give Raiden and Kain a match(granting Layton something of a boost).

Now, fodder should be reserved for only the absolute first round blowout guys. I mean CATS level. The people who have no chance except against someone equally weak, and then it'll be close.

I mean, I'd say Guybrush is about the fodder line, and we already saw how that played out.
MarioSuperstar | Posted 1/30/2010 9:18:46 AM | message detail
I'll admit the fourpack that Duke was in have looked good but at least the people who have so far have a reason to boost.. at least I think. I still can't look at Duke and say he's a solid Mid-carder though I wouldn't take him to come anywhere close to 40% on Ganondorf; that's for sure.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/30/2010 9:18:51 AM | message detail
Fodder is anyone who can't beat Kefka.

Or at least it used to be. Who's our fodder line now?
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/30/2010 9:18:52 AM | message detail
Eh, probably not. Charizard probably has to be at Lucario levels for Duke to win, and that ain't happening. Even with the pic advantage, I don't see Duke winning.

Lucario? Altair nearly doubled Lucario last year, albeit with Isaac in the poll, and Duke beat Altair. If you give 100% of Isaac's votes to Lucario, Altair/Lucario ends up extremely close.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 1/30/2010 9:18:58 AM | message detail
And I've been saying you all have been underestimating Duke. Watch him pull off a great performance against Charizard.
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charmander6000 | Posted 1/30/2010 9:19:08 AM | message detail
Ocelot>Duke

You must have missed Duke having no trouble against Kefka.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/30/2010 9:19:33 AM | message detail
Ocelot>Gay Towel Kefka

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MarioSuperstar | Posted 1/30/2010 9:19:36 AM | message detail
The same guy who went even with Ocelot, lol no.

I'd take Ocelot over Duke myself.. although in a close one maybe. Trainer would have won easily in a 24 hour match anyway.
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voltch | Posted 1/30/2010 9:19:40 AM | message detail
yeah, who should be the fodder line these days?
the boss maybe?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/30/2010 9:20:05 AM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #040
Eh, probably not. Charizard probably has to be at Lucario levels for Duke to win, and that ain't happening. Even with the pic advantage, I don't see Duke winning.

Lucario? Altair nearly doubled Lucario last year, albeit with Isaac in the poll, and Duke beat Altair. If you give 100% of Isaac's votes to Lucario, Altair/Lucario ends up extremely close.


Yeah, I forgot just how badly Altair won that and how badly it makes Lucario look.

But I'd still say Charizard > Marth though, and Marth cleanly beat Duke in round 1.
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/30/2010 9:20:41 AM | message detail
Kefka's still the fodder line unless and until he validates his strength against Bowser.
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charmander6000 | Posted 1/30/2010 9:21:41 AM | message detail
Lots of Duke underestimation ITT. I'm not saying that he'll win, but the guy will probably get around the mid-forties on Charizard at least.

Unless you guys still think Charizard > Pikachu.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 1/30/2010 9:21:55 AM | message detail
Man, if Duke actually upsets Charizard, the stats topic and the board in general will descend into chaos.

I'm still convinced Charizard > Duke, but if Duke pulls this off... it will be so glorious.
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voltch | Posted 1/30/2010 9:22:16 AM | message detail
but that makes arths suddenly look pathetically weak and a whole bunch of guys are now fodder or even worse canon fodder.
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