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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 808

TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 1/29/2010 4:57:54 PM | message detail
Meh, I don't see what the big deal was. Sure, Kefka turned out to be far weaker than we originally expected him to be, but he's still generally able to beat most fodder. I'm guessing that most of the other B8ers had Arthas overrated based on his advancing to Round 2, ignoring the fact that he narrowly got by an SFFed Ike and that his 3rd place finish in exiting was also by only a couple of percent ahead of an SFFed Nintendo character. In other words...Pikachu made Arthas look better than he actually was. Yeah, that sounds really weird when you say it, but without Pikachu in the poll, Ike almost certainly beats Arthas and Captain Falcon might have as well.
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TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 1/29/2010 5:00:02 PM | message detail
Unrealistic expectations? Hey now, I managed to stop myself from actually taking Frog > Bowser this year! And since I didn't take Crono > Sephiroth either (a far far worse pick), I only lost 1 point in picking CT-based upsets this year.

...so far. Oh, wait, that would be points lost taking a CT-based favorite, wouldn't it?
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/29/2010 5:02:06 PM | message detail
Alucard was the favorite over Magus. Crono is favored over Missingno and Yoshi, and I didn't take him over Sephiroth, so it's not possible for me to lose any more points this year on a CT-based upset. I lost 1 point on Magus, and that's it.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/29/2010 5:02:39 PM | message detail
crono > yoshi is an upset now tbqh
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yzman | Posted 1/29/2010 5:02:46 PM | message detail
Did anyone notice Japan seems to vote for the losers the majority of the time?
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/29/2010 5:03:08 PM | message detail
Not in the Guru it isn't.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/29/2010 5:03:27 PM | message detail

From: MyWorldIsCrono | #154
crono > yoshi is an upset now tbqh


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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/29/2010 5:03:58 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #156
Not in the Guru it isn't.


The guru was made pre contest when we had no 1v1 data in 4 years.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/29/2010 5:05:21 PM | message detail

From: MyWorldIsCrono | #158
The guru was made pre contest when we had no 1v1 data in 4 years.


Hey, and guess who we still don't have 1-on-1 data from in 4 years?

Come on, this isn't hard.
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/29/2010 5:06:02 PM | message detail
And I made my bracket before bracket lockdown too. I can't lose points picking an upset that wasn't an upset when I picked it.

Besides, Crono's still a big favorite over Yoshi. Bowser didn't go high enough today to make Yoshi's chances look good.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/29/2010 5:06:48 PM | message detail
There's no problem with Kratos's pic, but he and Tails contrast 100%. Something like that could help out the weaker character. Tails did manage almost 43% against Dante in 2004 with a similar pic.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/29/2010 5:07:45 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #159
Hey, and guess who we still don't have 1-on-1 data from in 4 years?

Come on, this isn't hard.


magus losing a match he should win and Frog doing worse than expected are CT 1v1 data we've gotten this year.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/29/2010 5:09:10 PM | message detail
Hint: Neither one of those characters is Crono, and Bowser's expected to get 63.80% on Frog based on LOL 4-WAY XSTATS, so he's not doing worse than expected.

Also, you seem to be forgetting we have zero data on Yoshi, too.
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/29/2010 5:10:13 PM | message detail
If you're basing Crono on Magus, you may have an argument, although it's really hard to compare Alucard and Yoshi.

But not with Frog's match today. In 2005 Crono was would have scored at least a doubling on Frog indirectly, and looking at 2007 and 2008 the gap has only increased if anything.
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TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 1/29/2010 5:12:51 PM | message detail
True, but the trends are definitely showing that CT is down. I agree, though; Frog is actually doing better than I expected, so now I'm concerned about my Yoshi>Crono pick.
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/29/2010 5:17:08 PM | message detail
China has flipped into Bowser's column now that it is morning over there.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 1/29/2010 5:29:06 PM | message detail
I'm interested to see how Crono holds up, now that we've seen Sonic flop horribly and Mega Man do quite well. I'm not sure on which end of the scale he performs, but he'd have to be pretty far on the Sonic side to start being worried about Yoshi. But I guess we won't find out anything from the first round match anyway.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/29/2010 5:30:51 PM | message detail
The fact his team mates look more like Sonic team and hasn't had a game in forever makes it logically to think he's closer to sonics fall then mega man.
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charmander6000 | Posted 1/29/2010 5:31:04 PM | message detail
Yukon, Northwest Territory and Nunavut (the three north ones) must get a combine total of 10 votes I bet. Looking over some matches have them grey which either means a tie or no votes.
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charmander6000 | Posted 1/29/2010 5:31:55 PM | message detail
Magus and Frog don't look any worse compare to 2008 so Crono should be safe.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/29/2010 5:32:35 PM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #170
Magus and Frog don't look any worse compare to 2008 so Crono should be safe.


How about compared to their 2006 versions? I'm talking about their 1v1 strength, not 4way.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 1/29/2010 5:33:40 PM | message detail
Crono's downward spiral hasn't been nearly as vicious as Sonic's, though Magus' probably has. Crono's looked more like Mega Man over the duration of fourways - never particularly good, but not embarrassingly awful like Sonic.
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charmander6000 | Posted 1/29/2010 5:35:51 PM | message detail
Well Frog and Magus weren't in 2006 while Crono seems to have dropped from 51% to 49% on Vincent between 2006 and 2007.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/29/2010 5:41:14 PM | message detail
holy Duke

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red sox 777 | Posted 1/29/2010 5:43:14 PM | message detail
How about compared to their 2006 versions? I'm talking about their 1v1 strength, not 4way.

Magus and Aeris have shown that characters in the same game aren't attached at the hip, but if you assume the proportion between Crono and Frog from 2005 hasn't changed.......

Setting Samus = Mario in 2005, Frog was worth 32.44% on Crono in 2005. Frog is worth more on Crono if you think Samus > Mario indirectly in 2005, less if you think Mario > Samus.

Holding that proportion and using Frog's current percentage, Bowser is projected to get 44.44% on Crono now, in a day match.
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6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/29/2010 5:43:17 PM | message detail
Oh, and props to whoever made that Isaac pic as well. Very nice.

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/29/2010 5:44:40 PM | message detail
Hmm... Sora/Kratos would be March 14th. God of War 3 comes out March 16th... possible upset?
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/29/2010 5:55:57 PM | message detail
45% update for Frog, second night vote arriving.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/29/2010 5:57:48 PM | message detail
lol 50 vote spike for frog now back down to normal
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 1/29/2010 6:18:54 PM | message detail
why are people worried about charizard? i thought most of you assumed it'd just be a blowout anyway.

I see no problem with most of these pictures anyway.
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 1/29/2010 6:22:04 PM | message detail
Oh, and props to whoever made that Isaac pic as well. Very nice.

I think that's mine, although the one I submitted was flipped the other way (didn't think to check which way they should be facing at the time)... so it's either mine or someone who submitted something very similar flipped the right way ;>_>
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creativename | Posted 1/29/2010 6:22:28 PM | message detail
Wide range of expectations for L-Block.

I put HK-47 between 18.79%-23.08% via Crono in 2K7. I peg Crono at 35% both years, so the block's performances in 2K8 against Crono puts him between 30.8% and 32.459%.

Based on those numbers, L could get between 71.06% and 62.53%.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/29/2010 6:23:33 PM | message detail

From: MoogleKupo141 | #181
Oh, and props to whoever made that Isaac pic as well. Very nice.

I think that's mine, although the one I submitted was flipped the other way (didn't think to check which way they should be facing at the time)... so it's either mine or someone who submitted something very similar flipped the right way ;>_>


Bacon flipped my Alucard picture around because I submitted it facing the wrong direction, so it's probably yours.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/29/2010 6:24:09 PM | message detail
Am I crazy for thinking HK has a shot tonight?
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creativename | Posted 1/29/2010 6:26:54 PM | message detail
Even the original L-Block who got 40% on Kirby should be strong enough to beat HK.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 1/29/2010 6:27:22 PM | message detail
charmander6000 | Posted 1/29/2010 8:31:04 PM | message detail
Yukon, Northwest Territory and Nunavut (the three north ones) must get a combine total of 10 votes I bet. Looking over some matches have them grey which either means a tie or no votes.


Probably. Those 3 territories have a low population, with each one under 50000 each.

I also looked at Australian provinces and it seems like almost no one is from the "Northern Territory". Almost every match (except Kefka/Arthas and Sora/Midna) shows one part of the Australian map shown in grey, which is the Northern Territory province.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 1/29/2010 6:31:37 PM | message detail
Based on those numbers, L could get between 71.06% and 62.53%.

71.06% was the result I got when placed these 2 numbers into the Linear X-Stat Estimator:

http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/node/53?input_values=46.37%0D%0A26.84

I know that gives out 71.059%, but that could be rounded up to 71.06% anyways. 46.37 was L-Block's percentage against Crono in round 2 last year, while 26.84 was HK-47's percentage against Crono in 2007.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/29/2010 6:34:55 PM | message detail
I know that gives out 71.059%, but that could be rounded up to 71.06% anyways

Thanks for that, Luster.
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charmander6000 | Posted 1/29/2010 6:43:32 PM | message detail
The following characters are indirectly stronger than Link meaning I can use a bunch of polls showing that character winning over Link. Note this doesn't include this contest.

Aerith
Altair
Alucard
Arthas
Auron
Bidoof
Big Boss
Bowser
Cloud
Crono
Dante
Diablo
Donkey Kong
Duke Nukem
Fox
Frog
Ganondorf
Gordon Freeman
Jill Valentine
Kefka
Kirby
Knuckles
KOS-MOS
Kratos
L-Block
Leon Kennedy
Liquid Snake
Luigi
Magus
Marcus Fenix
Mario
Marth
Master Chief
Max Payne
Mega Man
Mega Man X
Meta Knight
Mewtwo
Midna
Niko Bellic
Pac-Man
Pikachu
Princess Peach
Raiden
Revolver Ocelot
Riku
Rydia
Ryu
Ryu Hayabusa
Sam Fisher
Samus
Sandbag
Scorpion
Sephiroth
Solid Snake
Sonic
Sora
Squall
Sub-Zero
Tidus
Tifa
Tina Armstrong
Tommy Vercetti
Vivi
Weighted Companion Cube
Yoshi
Yuna
Zack Fair
Zelda
Zero

Total: 70

So far this contest has added Pokemon Trainer Red
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 1/29/2010 6:44:21 PM | message detail
I like that list
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/29/2010 6:46:40 PM | message detail
You forgot Jay Solano.

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charmander6000 | Posted 1/29/2010 6:47:43 PM | message detail
He doesn't count, official GameFAQs matches only.
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 1/29/2010 6:50:27 PM | message detail
oh hey, back on subject of match pics, Allen totally should have accepted my Samus it was like way better

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y263/MoogleKupo141/Samus.jpg

oh yeah

stole that SSB art idea from someone
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 1/29/2010 6:59:36 PM | message detail
The following characters are indirectly stronger than Link meaning I can use a bunch of polls showing that character winning over Link.

XD, that's good stuff right there.
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/29/2010 7:13:57 PM | message detail
China is back in Frog's column.

Tonight will be interesting, to see how much L-Block depended on 4-ways for his strength. I'm hoping he turns out to be a solid high midcarder in 1v1.
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 1/29/2010 7:24:14 PM | message detail
Yeah, it's true that SSB64 has never shown itself in these contests. Not even through match pics.
UltimaterializerX | Posted 1/29/2010 8:02:18 PM | message detail
First time looking at the poll, LOL Bowser looks like total crap today. Failing to marauder Frog in a day match is all sorts of failure.
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G0EMONIMPACT | Posted 1/29/2010 8:06:38 PM | message detail
Its like Sora all that much better on Midna, even though I do have Sora > Bowser
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G0EMONIMPACT | Posted 1/29/2010 8:07:21 PM | message detail
*its not like Sora did

>_<
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 1/29/2010 8:09:29 PM | message detail
Man... Why are there so few blowouts...?
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