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Dissidia boost on par with KHF?

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lol Frog
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Frog has one hour to gain percent before he submits to the ASV.
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Character Battle VIII - 19/26 - Today's Winners: Kefka and Bowser

Actually is seems that Frog is doing better in North America

Go Figure.
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Character Battle VIII - 19/26 - Today's Winners: Kefka and Bowser

Jecht for division finals come on then
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From: charmander6000 | #004
Actually is seems that Frog is doing better in North America

Go Figure.

CT always does best in NA though, doesn't it?
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I'm with ya KH, and it feels like Dissidia's the answer at this point in time...but then I would expect Zidane to kill Claptrap worse than he did. I also don't think Nintendo-characters generally get that kind of boost from the SSB-games (Meta-Knight with SSBB-hype went from 54.25% on Peach in 2007 to 57.46% in last month's vote-in) and we can agree Square's fanfare-fighter on the PSP isn't as big or well-received as Nintendo's fanfare-fighter spanning multiple consoles.

I dunno. Dissida's a common factor here, but given what we've seen before in past stats and similar situations it's hard to give it that kind of credit at this time.
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BT about Round Two: If Snake gets 43-45%, I'll close my account right now.
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Yeah, it could be Dissidia, but it's not as big as Brawl. Cecil's performance could also really be chalked up to Zack Fair who also looked strange in that match. Claptrap is unknown. Kefka is the best evidence of it so far.
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Maybe if you guys played Borderlands you would see that Claptrap is not weak.
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Character Battle VIII - 19/26 - Today's Winners: Kefka and Bowser

Maybe lot of people pirated dissidia, making it a hidden boost of sorts.
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I tried not to hate on Claptrap like a lot of the topic did -- I found him funny and am told it's everywhere in that game. I thought where he landed on Zidane was fine...if Dissidia did nothing. If Dissidia did to Zidane what we think it may have done for Cecil and Kefka though, that's a different story. Since it's a newcomer, it could still be its own strength and I'm just now starting to under-rate him, but I'd like to see more before I believe that.
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BT about Round Two: If Snake gets 43-45%, I'll close my account right now.
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If Claptrap actually is stronger then we thought, that can only mean good things for Vault Boy. He may break 40% on Leon.
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I dunno if he'd be a solid mid-carder just yet.
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Claptrap doesn't need to be a mid-card for Zidane to have a large boost, even high fodder would boost Zidane quite a bit.
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Character Battle VIII - 19/26 - Today's Winners: Kefka and Bowser

Albion, Bowser would need to double Frog here to make Crono/Yoshi look even. Crono's always been that far or farther above Frog.

If this ends around 62%, it'll just look like CT has stayed the same since 2008. That's very disappointing for me since I was expecting a CTDS boost, but doesn't indicate any further dropping.
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6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....

Well Frog got 35% on Ganondorf last year, how would a Ganondorf/Bowser match go?
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Character Battle VIII - 19/26 - Today's Winners: Kefka and Bowser

Probably like Ganon/Luigi: Ganon should win, but a big picture difference might sway the vote. Bowser lost to Luigi pretty easily in 2008, but I don't think that would matter much against Ganon; Bowser/Luigi should probably be equals in this scenario.
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BT about Round Two: If Snake gets 43-45%, I'll close my account right now.
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Assuming a constant Frog from 2008 to 2010 (it pains me so much to say this), and assuming Bowser finishes at 63%, Ganondorf is projected to get 51.91% on Bowser, almost identical to what he was projected to get in 2005 through Sephiroth. If you think Frog boosted then Bowser does better, if you think Frog dropped then Ganon does better.
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6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....

Looking at Magus it's hard to say Frog wouldn't suffer the same fate.
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Assuming a constant Frog from 2008 to 2010 (it pains me so much to say this), and assuming Bowser finishes at 63%, Ganondorf is projected to get 51.91% on Bowser, almost identical to what he was projected to get in 2005 through Sephiroth. If you think Frog boosted then Bowser does better, if you think Frog dropped then Ganon does better.

Seems fair enough. Frog and Magus have clearly dropped from where they used to be, but the last 2 contests they've been consistantly bad. I still would like to see that Bowser/Ganon match one of these days.

Bowser would probablt take out ganon.
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I don't know, the 2 seem tied at the hip. Both looked like crap last year at any rate...

Bowser and ganon may seem similar, but in a straight up match, what stops it being a mario/link situation where nintendo's base goes all ZELDAAAAAAAAA! and breaks bowser?
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k yeah remember what I said about Ike still being the heavy favorite to win in Round 2?

Screw that. Time for ZIDANEFAQS

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From: KamikazePotato | #025
k yeah remember what I said about Ike still being the heavy favorite to win in Round 2?

Screw that. Time for ZIDANEFAQS

Dissidia boost time aw yeah

Man, maybe my Zidane > Ike pick will pay off after all! Worked for Kefka
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holy crap, you used an apostrophe to make a word plural at least 3 times in that post. that's like cryptonite to me if I was batman - Bako Ikporamee

Also, if Dissidia is doing this much, just wait for that massive 358/2 Days boost for Roxas!

(I'm only half joking)

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KrahenProphet lived up to his name.

Roxas > Tidus CONFIRMED

This might work out for you afterall Kamikaze
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holy crap, you used an apostrophe to make a word plural at least 3 times in that post. that's like cryptonite to me if I was batman - Bako Ikporamee

But Tidus was in Dissidia too augh

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A more calm reaction, after a few hours.....

I suppose everything is not lost yet. The CTDS boost is gone, or at least, it was cancelled out by 2 more years of natural falling, but Frog isn't getting completely wiped out here. Crono and Frog are probably around the level of their 2008 selves.
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6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....

Bacon now has USA and World maps. Frog is winning in Russia and China......looks like Mario really is a communist and Bowser is the capitalist hero fighting against him. Frog is of course Mario's apprentice in the Dark Side (winning ultra close matches).
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6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....

aww yea 70% update
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Bowser by the hour:

1:00 | 62.63%
2:00 | 61.89%
3:00 | 62.83%
4:00 | 63.53%

ASV not looking too bad so far. Thinking Frog can end this above 37% with the SNV, even if he falls below that in the next few hours.
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6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....

he MUST end at exactly 63.70 so I can get a perfect prediction
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Oracle Challenge 2k10 - Rank: 42nd
Today's prediction: Bowser with 63.70% Status: good

Good god this ASV sucks for Bowser.

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KrahenProphet lived up to his name.

Aw yeah Kefka won by TEN THOUSAND votes.

Aw yeah Bowser beating up Frog almost as bad as Ganondorf. Makes sense; the pig's a bit stronger than Luigi and Weegi's a bit stronger than the turtle. Excellent results all around. I still wish Kefka/Bowser was a night match, but at least we'll have a fair comparison with Frog.

2007 says Frog is stronger than Midna by a small but not negligible amount (2% on Scorpion; not using Samus for obvious reasons). I'll grant that it's quite possible for that to have changed but I am content to have Bowser > Sora at this point.
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All of Midna's matches had LFF in 2007. Using anything from that year is dumb.

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Who on earth was LFFing Midna in her first round match?
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Kratos Aurion.

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And you're calling *me* dumb?
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Please. Tales being Nintendo isn't exactly a new theory.

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And the support you have for this "theory" is...?
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I find the theory of Tales being Nintendo extremely hard to accept. Or, at least, even if it were true, it's not enough to make up the difference between 40% on Scorpion and 25% on Cloud.
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6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....

You mean besides ToS being on a Nintendo-exclusive console and having the exact same trends as Nintendo characters?

How about Kratos Aurion doing significantly worse with other Nintendo characters in the poll?

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From: RPGuy96 | #042
And the support you have for this "theory" is...?

2008 Midna.
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Midna probably boosted a bit from 2k7 to 2k8 anyway (in addition to being free from LFF), which just makes using 2k7 even more stupid.

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I'll ask this question here, too:

Mewtwo vs. Axel, take your pick.
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It sounds about as good as my Link/Crono LFF theory. Although I still think that makes sense, so......
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6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....

Crono doesn't have similar trends to Nintendo characters. ToS has the exact same trends as Nintendo characters.

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Trends and console LFF is pretty dumb, as you might put it.

And I don't recall Kratos Aurion ever doing anything of note, with or without Nintendo characters in the poll. Perhaps you'd like to back your assertion up?
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