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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/28/2010 11:00:03 PM | message detail
You do know suggesting this is only because of his pic, and not du e to Arthas falling from 4way levels makes it so Kefka is a mid carder/high mid carder, right?
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Lieutenant Kettch | Posted 1/28/2010 11:00:34 PM | message detail
About 95% of the comments on Kefka's picture before the match were that it was horrible.
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/28/2010 11:01:23 PM | message detail
The thing that caught me off guard here was that I thought this picture was worse than last year's before the match. I mean......Bath Towel Kefka looks kind of like Sephiroth, and this Kefka looks about as hideous as Lettuce Kefka, if more humanoid.
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KanzarisKelshen | Posted 1/28/2010 11:01:34 PM | message detail
Yeah, I think this is just Kefka being awesome in Dissidia and becoming more well known due to it. Remember that Zack never made it to a contest before CC, after all, and he's definitely legit.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/28/2010 11:02:37 PM | message detail

From: Lieutenant Kettch | #202
About 95% of the comments on Kefka's picture before the match were that it was horrible.


Not 95%, but I did read quite a few "oh great, another awful Kefka picture" comments. His picture is definitely more appealing than the drab Amano/lettuce, but this isn't a Melty Boss-to-Naked Snake transformation here.
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/28/2010 11:02:44 PM | message detail
It's probably a combination of a bunch of reasons. And if this is all from Dissidia, then Frog can certainly boost enough from CTDS to beat Bowser in 10 hours!
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/28/2010 11:04:21 PM | message detail
If Kefka went from fodder line to high mid card through dissidia, then Cloud > Link
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creativename | Posted 1/28/2010 11:04:30 PM | message detail
You do know suggesting this is only because of his pic, and not du e to Arthas falling from 4way levels makes it so Kefka is a mid carder/high mid carder, right?

Dissidia could certainly be a factor, and Arthas probably has fallen from his 4way levels. I'm not saying this is 100% pic, but that should be the majority of the source of Kefka Variance.

And really, "It's Kefka" is enough most of the time. The guy is nuts. We don't need crazy "WoW does better in 4ways even though Thrall did great" theories with zero evidence for this.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 1/28/2010 11:04:57 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #206
It's probably a combination of a bunch of reasons. And if this is all from Dissidia, then Frog can certainly boost enough from CTDS to beat Bowser in 10 hours!


Yeah, just like Mag--

oh...nvm
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/28/2010 11:05:52 PM | message detail
Once again, Thrall getting 20% means nothing because Warcraft without a doubt can have 20% hardcore fans that'll vote for it regardless. That match means NOTHING to this.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/28/2010 11:06:10 PM | message detail
I've been pretty content with "it's Kefka" since one minute into the poll. Can't wait for the next round. He's winning the board vote!
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/28/2010 11:06:31 PM | message detail
CT Spoilers

Clearly all the people who played the game on SNES chose to get Magus on their party, while all the people who played it on DS chose to have Frog duel him.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/28/2010 11:07:08 PM | message detail
"It's Kefka" is easily the best explanation for this.

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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/28/2010 11:08:40 PM | message detail

From: MyWorldIsCrono | #210
Once again, Thrall getting 20% means nothing because Warcraft without a doubt can have 20% hardcore fans that'll vote for it regardless. That match means NOTHING to this.


Nah, Thrall did a lot better against Link than he did in his 4way match against Ganon/Vergil/Whoever, and now Arthas is doing a lot worse here than he did in the 4way format. The two Warcraft characters have produced opposite results.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 1/28/2010 11:09:26 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #213
"It's Kefka" is easily the best explanation for this.


Honestly, I think we can just settle on that. Stop trying to argue 4-ways legitimacy, Dissidia boosts, pic advantages, max percentages(seriously? LOL), etc.

ITS KEFKA
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/28/2010 11:10:00 PM | message detail
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/28/2010 11:10:08 PM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #214
Nah, Thrall did a lot better against Link than he did in his 4way match against Ganon/Vergil/Whoever, and now Arthas is doing a lot worse here than he did in the 4way format. The two Warcraft characters have produced opposite results.


I'm 100% sure that Arthas could have gotten that same 20% if not more on Link.
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creativename | Posted 1/28/2010 11:10:24 PM | message detail
Remember that Zack never made it to a contest before CC, after all, and he's definitely legit.

Starting in one's own game like Zack did should be much more of a factor than Dissidia for Kefka. Dissidia boost is still sensible enough for Kefka though, albeit uncertain.

e.g. in Cecil's case I think the majority of the surprise was from people underrating Cecil due to 1) Amano art (ugh that was awful) and 2) SFF. And a significant amount from Dissidia. That's my guess.


If Kefka went from fodder line to high mid card through dissidia, then Cloud > Link

Not necessarily. Kefka would have more room for improvement, he was pretty weaksauce. Also newer gamers weren't as familiar with him. Dissidia improved his name recognition among newer FF fans, whereas it wouldn't have done anything for Cloud in that department.

Also it's highly doubtful Kefka is high mid-card. Arthas barely got 40% against Alucard last year. So Kefka~=Alucard based on this. Much as we all love The Plan, Alucard is *not* high mid-card.
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General_Zimbad | Posted 1/28/2010 11:11:14 PM | message detail
I think we can all agree that kefka is fairly awesome right now.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 1/28/2010 11:11:34 PM | message detail
Frog can certainly boost enough from CTDS to beat Bowser in 10 hours!

One big reason why I'm glad to NOT be a Chrono Trigger fanboy: You CT fanboys never fail to set yourselves up for disappointment. It wasn't much help for Magus. And I find it difficult to believe that Frog HASN'T weakened.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/28/2010 11:12:14 PM | message detail
I can't believe people are actually trying to argue with the biggest arthas fanboy on the board that is saying he's fodder level now that we're in 1v1s
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creativename | Posted 1/28/2010 11:12:14 PM | message detail
*starring in one's own game
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 1/28/2010 11:13:04 PM | message detail

From: Fayt_Esteed | #220
Frog can certainly boost enough from CTDS to beat Bowser in 10 hours!

One big reason why I'm glad to NOT be a Chrono Trigger fanboy: You CT fanboys never fail to set yourselves up for disappointment. It wasn't much help for Magus. And I find it difficult to believe that Frog HASN'T weakened.


You shut your damn mouth.
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/28/2010 11:14:22 PM | message detail
Setting myself up for disappointment is what I do with regards to the contest and sports. Actually, I like Bowser a lot, and if it weren't for contest history and the emotional attachment that goes with it, I'd actually vote for him tomorrow.
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creativename | Posted 1/28/2010 11:14:37 PM | message detail
One big reason why I'm glad to NOT be a Chrono Trigger fanboy: You CT fanboys never fail to set yourselves up for disappointment. It wasn't much help for Magus. And I find it difficult to believe that Frog HASN'T weakened.

That's just our lovable Sox :) I'm a bigger Frog fan than he is but my expectations are realistic. I don't think he's breaking 40%. 40% would be more than satisfactory for me.
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Djungelurban | Posted 1/28/2010 11:16:27 PM | message detail
I'd like for everyone that were basically mocking me for picking Kefka and (named kawaiifan) TO GROVEL BEFORE MY FEET! You pretty much called me stupid for reasoning that the four way format hurt Diablo and two way helped him and that's why Diablo lost to Arthas in 07 and still beat Kefka in the Villains contest, but that with all that still it was likely that Kefka would beat Arthas in a two way. Cause you know, genius, FOUR WAYS CHANGES THINGS... They are not directly applicable on two ways. Ok? Got that now? Good! Now go away and stand in the corner and work on your superiority complex.

The day couldn't have started better...
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 1/28/2010 11:16:59 PM | message detail
I don't think the CT fans (redsox) care about Magus or Frog all that much.

It's Crono that is important.

Also, years of Crono disappointment was totally made up for by CB7.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/28/2010 11:17:35 PM | message detail
If Frog challenges then I'll seriously start proposing a Twilight Alucard boost.
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creativename | Posted 1/28/2010 11:20:16 PM | message detail
I'd like for everyone that were basically mocking me for picking Kefka and (named kawaiifan) TO GROVEL BEFORE MY FEET!

XD I have absolutely no idea who you are, but kawaiifan>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>you. She's one of the best contest analyzers of all-time, if not the best. Get a track record and then talk trash, you look better that way :)
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creativename | Posted 1/28/2010 11:21:49 PM | message detail
Where's kawaii posting these days anyway? I didn't think so posted about the contest anymore. I'd love to see what she's saying.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 1/28/2010 11:22:03 PM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #228
If Frog challenges then I'll seriously start proposing a Twilight Alucard boost.


Kefka gets The Dark Knight boost, Alucard gets Twilight boost...

HK-47 is gonna get that Transformers boost!
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 1/28/2010 11:22:29 PM | message detail

From: creativename | Posted: 1/29/2010 2:20:16 AM | #229
I'd like for everyone that were basically mocking me for picking Kefka and (named kawaiifan) TO GROVEL BEFORE MY FEET!

XD I have absolutely no idea who you are, but kawaiifan>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>you. She's one of the best contest analyzers of all-time, if not the best. Get a track record and then talk trash, you look better that way :)


Pfft, you don't need a track record to talk trash. That's the whole point of talking trash.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 1/28/2010 11:23:17 PM | message detail

From: creativename | #230
Where's kawaii posting these days anyway? I didn't think so posted about the contest anymore. I'd love to see what she's saying.


I'm pretty sure Ulti called her a bad name when she was in her trolling phase, so she left.
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KingOfTheKoopas | Posted 1/28/2010 11:23:51 PM | message detail
There are like 5 people in this contest I've never heard of. Arthas is one of them. I figured this was an easy pick.

But who cares about that we're counting down until THE KING OF AWESOME begins his march into the Noble Nine!

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Redtooth | Posted 1/28/2010 11:24:02 PM | message detail
I care about Magus...

But yea, Crono's run was excellent indeed! Time to repeat!

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nintendo girl | Posted 1/28/2010 11:29:01 PM | message detail
Someone make the world make sense.

;_;
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creativename | Posted 1/28/2010 11:29:37 PM | message detail
It's Crono that is important.

Frog is the most important to me, and I don't care all that much about Magus (him losing to Sandbag was a bit off-putting, but still entertaining). Crono I love but not as much as Frog. You just feel bad for Crono though, he's the most victimized contest character. Most tragic history of any elite character.

Whereas Frog just victimizes chumps himself ;)


Pfft, you don't need a track record to talk trash. That's the whole point of talking trash.

Most of the time if you talk trash to people who have more game than you, you just end up looking like a clown. There's typically a hierarchy at work which everyone playing recognizes. Unless everyone knows each other and is just goofing around of course :) ...what the hell were we talking about?
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Djungelurban | Posted 1/28/2010 11:30:11 PM | message detail
Well, in both four way contest I finished in (or near) the top 50 site wide so I think I'm doing alright... And the fact that she has a track record doesn't change the fact that she was horribly wrong and, even worse, kinda mocked me while being horribly wrong... Just in general it's not recommended to do that (and yes, I know I'm being guilty on that same thing right now) but if you're gonna, you better god damn know that you're right. Doing it and being wrong... You end up looking all kinds of foolish.

The funny thing is I actually like kawaiifan, she was one of my few supporters back in 2002 and 2003 when I ran a RPG contest on this board...
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DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 1/28/2010 11:32:02 PM | message detail
I don't know how this result is THIS surprising to you guys. I mean yeah, the percentage is a bit shocking, but the result isn't. Personally I didn't pick Kefka for ****s and giggles, I had some solid reasoning behind it, mainly that I did not trust Arthas to appeal to most voters, being a Warcraft character and now having the WoW stigma (possibly leading to anti-votes). Also, technically Kefka > Arthas in 2007 x-stats >_> Yeah, 2008 Arthas did better, but his 4pack wasn't exactly the strongest either. 20% against Pikachu, Alucard and Falcon isn't THAT far off from 20% against Marth, Niko and Duke (Kefka is 2% behind Arthas in x-stats on Leonhart's standings), and Arthas would DEFINITELY have a stronger hardcore fanbase whereas I think Kefka will be a bit of casual bait (as evidenced by getting picked by 63% of brackets against Tommy, 56% against Knux, 71% against Fenix (57% in 1st place), and probably a lot against Diablo in the Villains contest). Kefka did crumble against many characters in the past but they were all well known to casual users of the site so Kefka never got their backing. And I'd definitely pick Diablo over Arthas in a 1v1, even before seeing this result.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 1/28/2010 11:33:03 PM | message detail
The Midgar Division is a mess...
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creativename | Posted 1/28/2010 11:34:45 PM | message detail
Where was this argument with kawaii though? Does she still post about the contest somewhere?
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 1/28/2010 11:35:21 PM | message detail
Time for some spin.

Arthas's performance here means that the Pikachu 4-pack last year was probably overrated. Which means that L-Block was overrated. Which means that Ryu sux confirming Dante > Ryu (as if there was any doubt beforehand!).

Yes, I like the looks of that.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 1/28/2010 11:36:56 PM | message detail
Where was kawaii talking trash? She hasn't posted here since like 2004. Unless you mean her personal forum, but she's really nice there.
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Djungelurban | Posted 1/28/2010 11:39:51 PM | message detail
It might have been one of these, might have been another topic... It wasn't a topic of mine (cause I rarely make topics at all) and I'm pretty sure it wasn't a topic of hers. It was a week back atleast... Not frequenting this board too much means not paying too much attention.
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Lieutenant Kettch | Posted 1/28/2010 11:40:12 PM | message detail
Which means that Ryu sux confirming Dante > Ryu (as if there was any doubt beforehand!).

Which means Bowser is overrated. Frog > Bowser coming up!
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 1/28/2010 11:42:08 PM | message detail
Nah, because that all means that Alucard was overrated too.

Which means Magus really sucked this year. CTDS deboost.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/28/2010 11:43:10 PM | message detail
Which makes Spy really weak...which makes Master Chief REALLY weak...which means we should probably stop before we end up with more A>B>C>A scenarios.

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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 1/28/2010 11:46:17 PM | message detail
No, keep going this is fu-*remembers Chief's 4-pack last year*

Yeah okay we should probably stop.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 1/28/2010 11:46:48 PM | message detail
Arthas's performance here means that the Pikachu 4-pack last year was probably overrated. Which means that L-Block was overrated. Which means that Ryu sux confirming Dante > Ryu (as if there was any doubt beforehand!).

I thought we saw that Ryu was overrated in 2008, considering that he rolled over against L-Block twice?
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creativename | Posted 1/28/2010 11:49:02 PM | message detail
You know, Kefka doing this today means we now actually have to kick him out of the Fourpack of Doom (or Fourpack of Suck if you prefer). What he's doing here puts him about equal to Alucard, who 60/40'd Magus, so Kefka might actually dominate this fourpack (egads). Thankfully we can simply replace him with Lettuce Kefka.


Which means that Ryu sux confirming Dante > Ryu (as if there was any doubt beforehand!).

Before the contest I was actually quite surprised at how favored Dante was over Ryu, that didn't make sense to me. After seeing Ken's performance though it's hard to pick Ryu there, much as I want to. Hopefully Wesker just boosted due to RE5 and Ken doesn't suck hard - but, I'm not convinced of that.
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