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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 803

MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/27/2010 9:04:22 AM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #148
By saying he can jump from 61% to 70%

That'd about do it


Chiefs board vote + massive asv is a good recipe to jump from the board vote

Though to be fair, when I said 70% he was at 63% and climbing.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 1/27/2010 9:04:24 AM | message detail
Well Chief probably ends with 65 or so at least. Not bad enough to make his match against Ryu interesting.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/27/2010 9:04:49 AM | message detail
This seems to be stabilizing. Spy wrecked the board vote, which was then canceled out by the bracket votes, and...here we are.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/27/2010 9:04:53 AM | message detail

From: The n00b Avenger | #152
Well Chief probably ends with 65 or so at least. Not bad enough to make his match against Ryu interesting.


Still overestimation, likely.

Sora's ASV > Chief's, by the way
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KanzarisKelshen | Posted 1/27/2010 9:04:58 AM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | Posted: 1/27/2010 12:03:59 PM | #149
Ike has a claim to best ASV of all time and he could barely move against Prinny. What makes you think Chief will be different?


...Best ASV of all time? KP, you just lost a ton of respect. I mean, that MIGHT make sense if you said "best ASV of all time relative to character strength" or something, but...seriously?
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 1/27/2010 9:05:00 AM | message detail
Well I'll say this: 70% is certainly out of reach right about now. Also, Spy/Crash seems to be debatable to most people, so.. I'd say both guys have done around expected so far...


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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/27/2010 9:05:35 AM | message detail

From: KanzarisKelshen | #155
...Best ASV of all time? KP, you just lost a ton of respect. I mean, that MIGHT make sense if you said "best ASV of all time relative to character strength" or something, but...seriously?


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KingBartz | Posted 1/27/2010 9:05:36 AM | message detail
Ryu Hayabusa 74.80%

not bad predicting, all the perfects got the match too.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/27/2010 9:05:46 AM | message detail
And I think people are really underestimating Crash because of how bad he used to be. I really don't think he's that bad anymore. You have to throw away any results before 2005 because that was before the site shift.
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Team Rocket Elite | Posted 1/27/2010 9:05:47 AM | message detail
Score-Brackets-% Right
22------9------------100.0000000
21------90----------97.7777778
20------429--------92.3076923
19------1039------86.7179981
18------2137------83.9026673
17------3263------79.2828685
16------4103------77.1874238
15------4032------74.6527778
14------3507------72.4265754
13------2700------69.9629630
12------1753------69.2527096
11------1080------68.3333333
10------614--------66.2866450
9--------292--------65.0684932
8--------185--------63.2432432
7--------91----------53.8461538
6--------43----------32.5581395
5--------30----------30.0000000
4--------30----------13.3333333
3--------23----------8.6956522
2--------12----------8.3333333
1--------33----------3.0303030
0--------73----------0.0000000

Nothing really special today either.

2 people fell off the Top 50 today. Sandyoso and alexcri90 thought Crash could take down Ryu Hayabusa.
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/27/2010 9:05:49 AM | message detail
Didn't SSBM beat Halo and KH with the ASV in the games contest? Nothing wrong with saying Ike has a claim to the best ASV ever.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 1/27/2010 9:05:51 AM | message detail
I'll choose this as a sign that Spy has legit strength!

All aboard the Heavy > Roxas train!
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/27/2010 9:06:21 AM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #154
Still overestimation, likely.

Sora's ASV > Chief's, by the way


you think projecting 4.5% from the board vote for a guy with a bad board vote and an amazing asv is overestimation ... ?
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 1/27/2010 9:06:33 AM | message detail
I had the first vote for the Chief.

Bad start for the Chief, but GAME FUEL should give him the power to rise up to around 66% by the end of the match to make my Oracle look good.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/27/2010 9:07:07 AM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #161
Didn't SSBM beat Halo and KH with the ASV in the games contest? Nothing wrong with saying Ike has a claim to the best ASV ever.


KH and Halo don't seem to have as great of a day vote as Sora and Chief though, for whatever the reason.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/27/2010 9:07:16 AM | message detail
People are really overestimating how much Chief can rise here. The ASV isn't quite what it used to be.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/27/2010 9:07:46 AM | message detail

From: MyWorldIsCrono | #163
you think projecting 4.5% from the board vote for a guy with a bad board vote and an amazing asv is overestimation ... ?


Yep.

You seem to underestimate how much of an increase that is.

If Chief jumps up to like 62%+ on this next update, then maybe.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/27/2010 9:07:59 AM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #166
People are really overestimating how much Chief can rise here. The ASV isn't quite what it used to be.


its mid day versus a board 8 fad character
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 1/27/2010 9:08:00 AM | message detail
Wow, I typed that comment when Chief was at like 63%. I had no idea Chief is barely above 60%.

Well, I guess over-confident Chief backers are just clinging to dear life now.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/27/2010 9:08:27 AM | message detail
Spy is a B8 fad character what

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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/27/2010 9:08:27 AM | message detail

From: MyWorldIsCrono | #168
its mid day versus a board 8 fad character


Sounds like Ike vs. Prinny to me!
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 1/27/2010 9:08:29 AM | message detail
This needs to be legit Spy strength so my Heavy > Roxas blunder ends up not being a blunder.

Go Spy!
red sox 777 | Posted 1/27/2010 9:08:35 AM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/images/poll_graph.php?matchnum=3489&type=2&seconds=60&max=0

Actually, SSBM/KH was on a weekend I think, so it's inconclusive when talking about ASV power, but here is the graph for SSBM/Halo.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 1/27/2010 9:09:02 AM | message detail
Well you count on Master Chief jumping nearly a percent just within the next 10 minutes so, going from like 61.5 or 62% to 65% through the course of the entire match isn't all that implausible.

Of course if he decides to go in the opposite direction or something in the first 15 minutes then it's a different story
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yoshifan823 | Posted 1/27/2010 9:09:07 AM | message detail
Dear Master Chief,

My Oracle prediction is 66.66%. Get that, and stay there.

love,
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 1/27/2010 9:09:14 AM | message detail
I don't get why people would hate Crash before and suddenly like him now that he's irrelevant. It's not like Pokemon or Master Chief, both of which are still going strong today. Nobody even notices Crash's underwhelming games anymore. He hasn't done anything worth noting since the PS1. Why would he have a big fan base all of a sudden?

Not to mention the horrible votals his match had. If anything, it shows Ryu H is not the vote drawer we think he is, and thus it only hurts his standing against the more well-known Master Chief. If Ryu H can't get votes at all from his character design, how is he going to beat someone established?
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KanzarisKelshen | Posted 1/27/2010 9:09:26 AM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | Posted: 1/27/2010 12:05:49 PM | #161
Didn't SSBM beat Halo and KH with the ASV in the games contest? Nothing wrong with saying Ike has a claim to the best ASV ever.


But that's a mistake. The best ASV likely belongs to the most powerful contest entrant with the highest % jump during that timeframe, or, in other words, Link, most likely, and Sora after that. Ike PROBABLY does not pull in the same amount of % increase during that time of the day, though it might be debatable.
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yoshifan823 | Posted 1/27/2010 9:09:48 AM | message detail

From: ExThaNemesis | #172
This needs to be legit Spy strength so my Heavy > Roxas blunder ends up not being a blunder.

Go Spy!


I'll take that. Sub-Zero > Heavy too.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/27/2010 9:10:19 AM | message detail
hmm, maybe 63-64% is a better prediction for chief here
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 1/27/2010 9:10:21 AM | message detail
I don't get why people would hate Crash before and suddenly like him now that he's irrelevant.

It's called a different site shift. Last time we saw Crash before 4-ways, the poll option was barely noticeable as well.

In fact, a lot of mainstream characters have slowly come back to life in these things: Lara Croft, Scorpion, etc.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/27/2010 9:10:22 AM | message detail
I think the fact that Crash is no longer relevant probably means that nobody really hates him anymore. He doesn't get anti-voted like he used to, I figure.

And there's nostalgia.

Not a big increase for Chief there.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/27/2010 9:10:41 AM | message detail

From: KanzarisKelshen | #177
But that's a mistake. The best ASV likely belongs to the most powerful contest entrant with the highest % jump during that timeframe, or, in other words, Link,


What in the world

No one uses trends like that

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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/27/2010 9:11:07 AM | message detail
And yeah, even Lara Croft isn't as bad as she used to be either, likely for the same reasons. In 2004, she got quadrupled by Samus.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 1/27/2010 9:11:09 AM | message detail
Decent increase by MC, but is it enough to propel him to over 65%?
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/27/2010 9:11:36 AM | message detail

From: Not_Wylvane | #184
Decent increase by MC, but is it enough to propel him to over 65%?


Probably not. I was hoping about 1% at least.
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/27/2010 9:12:07 AM | message detail
But that's a mistake. The best ASV likely belongs to the most powerful contest entrant with the highest % jump during that timeframe, or, in other words, Link, most likely, and Sora after that. Ike PROBABLY does not pull in the same amount of % increase during that time of the day, though it might be debatable.

Um, what? Percentage increase does not have to do with strength. If you're talking about ASV strength (and no one does), then it goes Link > Cloud > Sephiroth > Snake > Samus > etc.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/27/2010 9:12:43 AM | message detail
Oh, and I told you guys you shouldn't be going around calling Chief > Hayabusa a lock before we see Chief pulling his usual antics!
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 1/27/2010 9:13:01 AM | message detail
So let's be generous and say MC finishes at say, 63/64%. Do we amount this to a Spy increase?
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KanzarisKelshen | Posted 1/27/2010 9:13:05 AM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | Posted: 1/27/2010 12:10:41 PM | #182
What in the world

No one uses trends like that


Well, there's two measuring sticks for "strongest ASV" as I see it: the literal version, AKA the one where a character scoops up the most votes out of every single ASV ever, and "strongest ASV in relation to character strength", where a character suddenly spikes WAY up during the ASV. Unless I'm missing something, Ike has VERY strong competition for the latter, and obviously is not in the running for the former.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/27/2010 9:13:12 AM | message detail
It mostly is a lock. Spy would beat Crash fairly easily.

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/27/2010 9:13:25 AM | message detail
If it was a night match I'd say Ryu H would be the favorite after this match. Chief is doing worse on Spy then ARTHAS. Granted, Ryu H didn't look good either, but still. Chief isn't outdoing a low midcard.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/27/2010 9:13:28 AM | message detail
Kan, look at what red sox just posted.

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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/27/2010 9:13:58 AM | message detail

From: MarioSuperstar | #188
So let's be generous and say MC finishes at say, 63/64%. Do we amount this to a Spy increase?


Spy has definitely boosted. TF2 and Steam in general are a lot more well known and liked than they were last year. Selling games for pennies will do that. <3
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 1/27/2010 9:14:21 AM | message detail
Spy would beat Crash fairly easily.

I still have problems accepting this for some reason. Win, sure, but 'fairly easy'?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/27/2010 9:14:31 AM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #190
It mostly is a lock. Spy would beat Crash fairly easily.


...Why? What did Spy do last year to make you think this?
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/27/2010 9:14:37 AM | message detail
55% is fairly easily to me!


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KanzarisKelshen | Posted 1/27/2010 9:14:41 AM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | Posted: 1/27/2010 12:13:28 PM | #192
Kan, look at what red sox just posted.


If it is not percentage during the ASV compared to other hours, then what exactly are we discussing, then? Because I honestly don't see anything else you could use to give Ike claim to one of the most powerful ASV's ever. :-/
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/27/2010 9:14:43 AM | message detail

From: MarioSuperstar | #194
Spy would beat Crash fairly easily.

I still have problems accepting this for some reason. Win, sure, but 'fairly easy'?


I'd take Crash in a 55% win.
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/27/2010 9:14:57 AM | message detail
Well, there's two measuring sticks for "strongest ASV" as I see it: the literal version, AKA the one where a character scoops up the most votes out of every single ASV ever, and "strongest ASV in relation to character strength", where a character suddenly spikes WAY up during the ASV. Unless I'm missing something, Ike has VERY strong competition for the latter, and obviously is not in the running for the former.

No one has used trends in the former sense in years. And of course Ike has very strong competition for the latter, namely Master Chief, Sora, and pure Smash characters like Master Hand. It's perfectly reasonable to say that he's in the running for top ASV though.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 1/27/2010 9:15:12 AM | message detail
GAME FUEL!

Wow Chief, quite some jump there.
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