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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 802
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 1/26/2010 9:22:08 PM | message detail |
Terra is going to beat the chump Revan! --- http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/020/b/f/Ariel_by_lolita_art.jpg |
MoogleKupo141 | Posted 1/26/2010 9:22:12 PM | message detail |
Hayabusa's
big game is pretty Xbox-oriented... but he does have a bunch of
non-xbox appearances... MC should SFF him to a degree, but he does have
NES/PS3/DS stuff to draw from as well for the three people who played
the DS game. --- For your health. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/Cyclo/pokewhat.jpg This is my Chocomander, KrahenProphet |
KamikazePotato | Posted 1/26/2010 9:22:26 PM | message detail |
For
me to even begin to buy that Ryu Hayabusa would be affected at all by
an 'Xbox hierarchy', him and Chief would need to share similar trends. They don't. ToS characters have the exact same trends as every other Nintendo character. Chief and Ryu aren't even close. --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
charmander6000 | Posted 1/26/2010 9:22:48 PM | message detail |
It is when Ninja Gaiden games apparently have a god awful playrate on gamefaqs if the goty polls are any indication. Which is why Hayabusa is fodder, oh wait. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 16/22 - Today's Winners: Ryu Hayabusa and Master Chief |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/26/2010 9:22:59 PM | message detail |
From: Lopen | #400 seriously. like i said earlier, he woulda beaten both kirby and dante in final 12 horus of those matches last year, and nobody would consider Ryu H at that level. People need to lay off of him as being weak when he's a high mid carder if not better. --- http://i48.tinypic.com/24ytvz8.png Albion Hero is the Cream of Loli Fanboyism |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 1/26/2010 9:23:14 PM | message detail |
From: LOLContests | Posted: 1/27/2010 12:19:33 AM | #387 Do I really need to bust out games =/= characters? --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´`·.,¸¸,.·´ WHAT'S THE MATTER, SCARED?? |
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/26/2010 9:23:25 PM | message detail |
From: Lopen | #400 Not sure what Auron/Zero has to do with this because Auron would wipe the floor with Chief. Zero doesn't have to be that strong for Hayabusa to beat Chief. --- "Hold on a minute! That testimony stinks!" "Witness! You can't just say 'Hello' and expect us to get anywhere! I want you to testify!" |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/26/2010 9:23:31 PM | message detail |
From: charmander6000 | #404 he's not fodder because he excels with awesome character design. its why strider was a low mid carder when he had a game nobody had ever even played. --- http://i48.tinypic.com/24ytvz8.png Albion Hero is the Cream of Loli Fanboyism |
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 1/26/2010 9:23:46 PM | message detail |
KamikazePotato Posted 1/27/2010 12:22:26 AM message detail For me to even begin to buy that Ryu Hayabusa would be affected at all by an 'Xbox hierarchy', him and Chief would need to share similar trends. They don't. ToS characters have the exact same trends as every other Nintendo character. Chief and Ryu aren't even close. Except it's commonly accepted here that Snake SFF'd Hayabusa in both of their matches. PS3 hierarchy then? --- http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/020/b/f/Ariel_by_lolita_art.jpg |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 1/26/2010 9:24:30 PM | message detail |
I am NOT the one that brought up Mario/Samus. --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´`·.,¸¸,.·´ TurnTurnTurn your brain in. |
KamikazePotato | Posted 1/26/2010 9:24:54 PM | message detail |
Snake
SFFd Hayabusa because Hayabusa gets a lot of 'hey, that guy looks cool'
votes. 'Badass SFF' or whatever. Snake stole all of them. --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
MoogleKupo141 | Posted 1/26/2010 9:24:58 PM | message detail |
Except it's commonly accepted here that Snake SFF'd Hayabusa in both of their matches. PS3 hierarchy then? Stealthy hero hierarchy. Just like GlaDOS SFFed Fawful with the humorous villain hierarchy. It's everywhere. --- For your health. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/Cyclo/pokewhat.jpg This is my Chocomander, KrahenProphet |
charmander6000 | Posted 1/26/2010 9:25:01 PM | message detail |
he's
not fodder because he excels with awesome character design. its why
strider was a low mid carder when he had a game nobody had ever even
played. Which helps prove Characters =/= Games. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 16/22 - Today's Winners: Ryu Hayabusa and Master Chief |
ExThaNemesis | Posted 1/26/2010 9:25:19 PM | message detail |
Wow are we seriously thinking Ryu H is going to beat Chief? Alright, then. --- "I learned in England not to deceive the referees" - Cristiano Ronaldo http://i50.tinypic.com/ohsr5j.jpg |
LOLContests | Posted 1/26/2010 9:25:26 PM | message detail |
Do I really need to bust out games =/= characters? But it's the same basic theory. If anything games would fall into a hierarchy better than characters anyway. Do you deny that point? This is also excluding the fact that a noticeable part of Hayabusa's popularity comes from his design anyway. --- "And you mustached brothers shall be the delicious mustard on that bread! The mustard of your doom! "--Fawful Yesmar |
Lopen | Posted 1/26/2010 9:25:55 PM | message detail |
I'm saying the only evidence to support Chief being weaker than Ryu H was that one match with Zero from 2k8 By the way I called that match right and I still don't think it's worth the bandwidth it's printed on as it relates to Hayabusa's strength. There were definitely... factors... to support Ryu H there that don't really necessitate being too much stronger than he was in the past. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/26/2010 9:26:07 PM | message detail |
From: ExThaNemesis | #414 its just some people trying desperately to find a way to laugh at Chief. the 85% chief has in the guru shows its a massive longshot. --- http://i48.tinypic.com/24ytvz8.png Albion Hero is the Cream of Loli Fanboyism |
TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 1/26/2010 9:26:34 PM | message detail |
From: ExThaNemesis | #414 We're not. Albion is. --- holy crap, you used an apostrophe to make a word plural at least 3 times in that post. that's like cryptonite to me if I was batman - Bako Ikporamee |
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/26/2010 9:26:39 PM | message detail |
From: ExThaNemesis | #414 How's your bracket doing, ExTha! --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/26/2010 9:26:48 PM | message detail |
From: TheKoolAidShoto | #418 uhhhh --- http://i48.tinypic.com/24ytvz8.png Albion Hero is the Cream of Loli Fanboyism |
Karma Hunter | Posted 1/26/2010 9:26:53 PM | message detail |
And meanwhile, during all this commotion, Ryu H continues to steadily inch his way up. --- turnturnturn your brain in http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/020/b/f/Ariel_by_lolita_art.jpg |
KamikazePotato | Posted 1/26/2010 9:26:59 PM | message detail |
Oh god, Chief has bracket support? That's never happened before! He's unstoppable! --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/26/2010 9:27:02 PM | message detail |
From: MyWorldIsCrono | #417 Yeah, because Chief's never lost as a massive Guru favorite before! --- "Spoil it for me. I'm never going to play that game so I want to know if he's going to be another Auron or another Sin." - Soul about Jecht vs. PW |
charmander6000 | Posted 1/26/2010 9:27:27 PM | message detail |
Yeah,
all of this is about whether or not Hayabusa is stronger than the
Chief. I still stand by that if the Chief wins it will be because he's
stronger. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 16/22 - Today's Winners: Ryu Hayabusa and Master Chief |
DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 1/26/2010 9:27:41 PM | message detail |
From: UltimaterializerX | #343 Pretty much. The Xbox was my main console (I had like 4 games for my PS2 since it got DREs and stuff for a while before I fixed it myself since Sony wanted me to renew the warranty for $200 to fix it LOL). And I had tons of friends who also had an Xbox and was heavily involved in the Halo community (check my only FAQ for proof). Anybody who thinks that Ninja Gaiden and Halo do not share a lot of their fanbase just never had an Xbox. The hierarchy exists for other consoles, and it definitely does for the Xbox. --- CBVIII: 19/21 - 19 pts - Losses: Ocelot, Liquid Day Pick:Zack Fair Night Pick: Ryu H |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/26/2010 9:27:55 PM | message detail |
From: LeonhartFour | #423 he lost to a guy who then went on to get over 40% on auron, proving that he actually had some serious strength, not that Chief just massively flopped. --- http://i48.tinypic.com/24ytvz8.png Albion Hero is the Cream of Loli Fanboyism |
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/26/2010 9:28:01 PM | message detail |
Heck, Hayabusa has 10 times as much support as Sub-Zero did back in 2006! --- "I can set you free, mate." "My freedom was forfeit long ago!" |
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/26/2010 9:28:27 PM | message detail |
From: MyWorldIsCrono | #426 Then say that. Don't bring up Guru stats. --- "The great GF...Bahamut." "...GF? I...? Using my powers...It is you humans...I fear..." |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/26/2010 9:28:46 PM | message detail |
From: charmander6000 | #424 Even if Ryu H is stronger, Chief still has a great shot to win cuz its a day match. The dude can change 8-10% from night to day vote. --- http://i48.tinypic.com/24ytvz8.png Albion Hero is the Cream of Loli Fanboyism |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 1/26/2010 9:29:39 PM | message detail |
The
only thing the Zero match proves is a very obvious overlap between
Nintendo and Mega Man. I thought we decided this ages ago. --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´`·.,¸¸,.·´ "Capcom aren't bad people, they're just IDIOTS." -Yahtzee |
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/26/2010 9:29:41 PM | message detail |
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3752®ion=USXWY Wyoming unstoppable --- "Hold on a minute! That testimony stinks!" "Witness! You can't just say 'Hello' and expect us to get anywhere! I want you to testify!" |
charmander6000 | Posted 1/26/2010 9:30:06 PM | message detail |
Heck the heirarchy breaks down for Nintendo too. Mario > Kirby yet Meta Knight defeated Peach for example. Heck Samus' inability to SFF Nintendo characters could mean that her series is technically lower on the heirarchy. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 16/22 - Today's Winners: Ryu Hayabusa and Master Chief |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 1/26/2010 9:31:16 PM | message detail |
From: charmander6000 | Posted: 1/27/2010 12:30:06 AM | #432 Very much so. Samus is stronger than characters who series would trounce hers in game polls. --- "Like, he thinks about Starcraft while having sex (his girlfriend said it was the best ever, so he must've been doing something right)." -G0EMON |
charmander6000 | Posted 1/26/2010 9:31:46 PM | message detail |
Even
if Ryu H is stronger, Chief still has a great shot to win cuz its a day
match. The dude can change 8-10% from night to day vote. Not against Hayabusa. Heck those matches you brought up from last year there's only a 3k difference between night and day. You can't be that confident based on only 3k votes. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 16/22 - Today's Winners: Ryu Hayabusa and Master Chief |
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/26/2010 9:31:53 PM | message detail |
From: UltimaterializerX | #433 So what does Halo > Ninja Gaiden prove then exactly? --- "So cold. I am always by your side." "There ain't no gettin' off of this train we on!" |
Karma Hunter | Posted 1/26/2010 9:32:02 PM | message detail |
Very much so. Samus is stronger than characters who series would trounce hers in game polls. This is the ONE thing that makes me terrified of Ryu H here. --- turnturnturn your brain in http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/020/b/f/Ariel_by_lolita_art.jpg |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/26/2010 9:32:07 PM | message detail |
Didnt Metroid end up like only 20% on base link in the series contest? I remember it doing quite bad --- http://i48.tinypic.com/24ytvz8.png Albion Hero is the Cream of Loli Fanboyism |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/26/2010 9:32:49 PM | message detail |
From: charmander6000 | #434 The matches I bring up are with characters who would also blow Ryu H away. --- http://i48.tinypic.com/24ytvz8.png Albion Hero is the Cream of Loli Fanboyism |
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/26/2010 9:32:53 PM | message detail |
From: MyWorldIsCrono | #437 Yeah, but so did like every other series. --- "Stay with me until the end. Please." "Not until the end. Always." |
red sox 777 | Posted 1/26/2010 9:33:05 PM | message detail |
Metal Gear ended up at like 25% on Legend of Zelda. That contest was Zelda, Final Fantasy, Mario, and everything else. --- 6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno 'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared.... |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 1/26/2010 9:33:22 PM | message detail |
From: MyWorldIsCrono | Posted: 1/27/2010 12:32:07 AM | #437 It got SFFd. Hard. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2449 --- "Not everybody is a perfect person in the world. Everyone kills people, murder people, steals from you, steals from me, whatever." -Ohio State |
Karma Hunter | Posted 1/26/2010 9:33:43 PM | message detail |
Metroid
ran straight into LoZ, its ranking means nothing (and lol using BL
there). Its slim win over Pokemon was considered pretty embarrassing at
the time, though. In retrospect, that's the most impressive thing
Metroid's ever done in these contests. --- turnturnturn your brain in http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/020/b/f/Ariel_by_lolita_art.jpg |
LOLContests | Posted 1/26/2010 9:34:32 PM | message detail |
Company hierarchies =/= console hierarchies. No one has bothered answering my points as to why console hierarchies did not come into play for KOTOR or God of War. --- "And you mustached brothers shall be the delicious mustard on that bread! The mustard of your doom! "--Fawful Yesmar |
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/26/2010 9:35:05 PM | message detail |
From: LOLContests | #443 Because the games are multiplatform! Seriously, that's the only argument I've heard. --- "Spoil it for me. I'm never going to play that game so I want to know if he's going to be another Auron or another Sin." - Soul about Jecht vs. PW |
charmander6000 | Posted 1/26/2010 9:35:21 PM | message detail |
The matches I bring up are with characters who would also blow Ryu H away. If you want to go by percent Chief went from 47% - 51%, that's pretty confident calling one side debatable and not the other, especially with a diluted ASV. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 16/22 - Today's Winners: Ryu Hayabusa and Master Chief |
red sox 777 | Posted 1/26/2010 9:37:02 PM | message detail |
Hierarchies
are overrated. Look at Nintendo. Supposing there is some SFF hierarchy
that determines how good you are at SFF apart from strength, how often
has it mattered? Mario/Samus alone, out of all the matches between
Nintendo characters we've seen. --- 6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno 'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared.... |
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/26/2010 9:37:51 PM | message detail |
From: red sox 777 | #446 Not to mention, we've seen hierarchies change within Nintendo. Before 2006, it was pretty clearly Bowser > Yoshi > Luigi. Now Luigi is on top of that hierarchy. --- "I can set you free, mate." "My freedom was forfeit long ago!" |
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/26/2010 9:38:33 PM | message detail |
And I shouldn't even have to mention Pokemon's shift in that hierarchy. --- "I can set you free, mate." "My freedom was forfeit long ago!" |
Karma Hunter | Posted 1/26/2010 9:38:52 PM | message detail |
I still wanna see Luigi v Yoshi. Something doesn't sit right about that match to me. --- turnturnturn your brain in http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/020/b/f/Ariel_by_lolita_art.jpg |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 1/26/2010 9:39:32 PM | message detail |
Luigi would crush that match now. --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´`·.,¸¸,.·´ XFD rofl bad u mad? QQ moar |