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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 802

MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/26/2010 9:11:31 PM | message detail
spy > chief sounds even more crazy then the peach > gordon people!
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ShatteredElysium | Posted 1/26/2010 9:11:31 PM | message detail
Gdi, I knew it >_>
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charmander6000 | Posted 1/26/2010 9:11:34 PM | message detail
I honestly can't tell if this is sarcasm, but people denying the Xbox hierarchy have flat-out never played Halo or new Ninja Gaiden. This is one of those "look at nothing but past stats, use no common sense" deals.

Master Chief winning has nothing to do with the Xbox hierarchy, he'll be flatout stronger than him.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/26/2010 9:11:53 PM | message detail
Like you said, very clear cut hierarchy.

What's so clear cut about it?
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/26/2010 9:12:08 PM | message detail

From: nintendo girl | #349
From: UltimaterializerX | #343
I honestly can't tell if this is sarcasm, but people denying the Xbox hierarchy have flat-out never played Halo or new Ninja Gaiden. This is one of those "look at nothing but past stats, use no common sense" deals.

Halo went even with KotOR. I'm not seeing a heirarchy here.


an Xbox/PC rpg made by a third party company means anything ... ?
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/26/2010 9:12:18 PM | message detail
That's it, Xbox deboost + Valve boost = Spy wins in 12 hours.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 1/26/2010 9:12:20 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | Posted: 1/27/2010 12:11:53 AM | #354
Like you said, very clear cut hierarchy.

What's so clear cut about it?


Spoken like someone that has not played Halo or new Ninja Gaiden :)
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 1/26/2010 9:12:34 PM | message detail
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From: charmander6000 | #310
Again 70% is an impossible number for Hayabusa, no way is Crash that weak considering how well he did in the last two contests.


Not really, Crash sucks and is only getting worse.


Not to mention today's Chief (even outside of his 2007 run) is much stronger than Chief was in 2004. This is a big "whoops" for Hayabusa > Chief backers.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/26/2010 9:12:59 PM | message detail

From: UltimaterializerX | #357
Spoken like someone that has not played Halo or new Ninja Gaiden :)


Oh look, it's Ulti being smug instead of explaining himself this is helpful
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/26/2010 9:13:32 PM | message detail
This is a big whoops, I won't deny that. The only hope now is Chief choking.

There is still hope.
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/26/2010 9:13:38 PM | message detail
This makes Zero look awful, BT. He's barely projected to beat Magus right now.
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Lopen | Posted 1/26/2010 9:14:14 PM | message detail
There is an old saying among XBox owners:

The XBox has two functions: Off and Halo.

One's the flagship for a system and one's just a really great title. It's like comparing Mario with Kirby or something.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 1/26/2010 9:14:22 PM | message detail
Naw, what we really have to take away from this match is that Zero is about to get pasted by GeoW2 boosted Marcus Fenix :3
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HaRRicH | Posted 1/26/2010 9:14:36 PM | message detail
Just a thought: Crash, like Pokemon, had some hate back in the days of 2002-2004. Nowadays though, the hate has been uplifted from them and can be seen from a more fond point of view now. We saw them both improve since 2007 in the four-way format since the old days...heck, I don't think Lara Croft looked too back in 2007 either (considering LFF and how weak she's been in the past). Perhaps a new age of nostalgia has hit where things hated in the 32-64 bit-era aren't so much anymore.


Still expected Hayabusa to do better than this, stronger Crash or not. Let's see what MC's got tomorrow.
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TheCodeisBosco | Posted 1/26/2010 9:15:30 PM | message detail
I can't lie: I was one of the people who helped Crash's board vote. How can you say no to that picture?!? It's almost as awesome as Prinny's!

spy > chief sounds even more crazy then the peach > gordon people!

Nah, it really doesn't. Heck, Heavy > Roxas doesn't sound as crazy as Peach > Gordon...

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 1/26/2010 9:15:45 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | Posted: 1/27/2010 12:12:59 AM | #359
Oh look, it's Ulti being smug instead of explaining himself this is helpful


So you haven't played Halo.
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Redtooth | Posted 1/26/2010 9:15:56 PM | message detail
Wait, people hated Crash?

Who are they and why are they allowed to breath?

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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/26/2010 9:16:17 PM | message detail
I voted for Crash because I like him more than Ryu.

Shocking, I know!

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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 1/26/2010 9:16:25 PM | message detail

From: Lopen | #362
There is an old saying among XBox owners:

The XBox has two functions: Off and Halo.

One's the flagship for a system and one's just a really great title. It's like comparing Mario with Kirby or something.


WTF, maybe when for the first 6 months of the original Xbox lifespan.

Get with the times, Lopen.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 1/26/2010 9:16:28 PM | message detail
Except that:

A) Hayabusa has every reason to overperform last year because of NG2
B) Zero was being weighed down by Pit/DeDeDe
C) If you want to go this route, Zero's impressive 2007 showing on Crono points to Crono being in serious trouble against Yoshi if you extrapolate through Hayabusa

Clearly Hayabusa is the outlier in his 2007 and 2008 matches for obvious reasons. He was all kinds of fishy both years.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 1/26/2010 9:16:28 PM | message detail
Yeah, what reason could there be for Crash hate
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/26/2010 9:16:34 PM | message detail

From: Redtooth | #368
Wait, people hated Crash?

Who are they and why are they allowed to breath?


of course n64 fanboys would hate the ps1s mascot

its why people hate chief if they don't have a 360.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/26/2010 9:16:46 PM | message detail
But the idea that Chief is going to "XBox SFF" Hayabusa just seems so ludicrous to me.

But hey, "THIS IS OBVIOUSLY COMING FROM SOMEONE WHO'S NEVER PLAYED AN XBOX" so what do I know!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/26/2010 9:17:24 PM | message detail

From: UltimaterializerX | #367
So you haven't played Halo.


Yes, I have.
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LOLContests | Posted 1/26/2010 9:17:32 PM | message detail
So you haven't played Halo.

I'm not sure I understand your point. If there are console hierarchies than how come Halo almost lost to KOTOR and how come San Andreas lost to God of War?
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 1/26/2010 9:17:39 PM | message detail
So you haven't played Halo.


what does playing Halo have to do with anything? Master Chief's a pretty crappy character, Hayabusa definitely comes across as the guy to vote for if you've played both series
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/26/2010 9:17:49 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #374
But the idea that Chief is going to "XBox SFF" Hayabusa just seems so ludicrous to me.

But hey, "THIS IS OBVIOUSLY COMING FROM SOMEONE WHO'S NEVER PLAYED AN XBOX" so what do I know!


Does Mario or Link sffing Kirby/Fox/etc sound ludicrous to you?
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paulg235 | Posted 1/26/2010 9:18:13 PM | message detail

From: MyWorldIsCrono | #373
of course n64 fanboys would hate the ps1s mascot

its why people hate chief if they don't have a 360.


Did you just compare Crash with Master Chief?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/26/2010 9:18:32 PM | message detail

From: MyWorldIsCrono | #378
Does Mario or Link sffing Kirby/Fox/etc sound ludicrous to you?


I didn't realize Bungie made Ninja Gaiden.
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Lopen | Posted 1/26/2010 9:18:36 PM | message detail
Obviously the XBox is more than Halo now, but back in the day (and for longer than 6 months) that's what the thing was good for. That means a lot.

But no this isn't a SFF deal necessarily this is just a "why on earth would Ryu H be as strong as the Chief" deal.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/26/2010 9:18:49 PM | message detail

From: MoogleKupo141 | #377
So you haven't played Halo.


what does playing Halo have to do with anything? Master Chief's a pretty crappy character, Hayabusa definitely comes across as the guy to vote for if you've played both series


ask any xbox/xbox 360 owner who they prefer. A random ninja from a game that didnt even sell 1 million copies, or the icon of the system that has sold nearly 30 million copies

i'm pretty sure chief wins.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 1/26/2010 9:19:18 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | Posted: 1/27/2010 12:16:46 AM | #374
But the idea that Chief is going to "XBox SFF" Hayabusa just seems so ludicrous to me.

But hey, "THIS IS OBVIOUSLY COMING FROM SOMEONE WHO'S NEVER PLAYED AN XBOX" so what do I know!


Uh, think Mario vs... I dunno, Mega Man or something. Mega isn't technically Nintendo, but he's naturally weaker and would never get SFF favor. That's pretty much how Chief/Ryu H would go on a normal day.

Now I say "normal day" because Chief has a ludicrous hate on this site and isn't at all transitive. Ryu or Spy could win solely on anti-votes and I wouldn't blink.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/26/2010 9:19:28 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #380
I didn't realize Bungie made Ninja Gaiden.


Okay I'll give you another example

we constantly say that Nintendo sff's ToS. If it sff's ToS, why would Halo not SFF Ninja Gaiden?
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 1/26/2010 9:19:32 PM | message detail

ask any xbox/xbox 360 owner who they prefer. A random ninja from a game that didnt even sell 1 million copies, or the icon of the system that has sold nearly 30 million copies

i'm pretty sure chief wins.


I asked myself

hayabusa wins

;>_>
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LOLContests | Posted 1/26/2010 9:19:33 PM | message detail
I should point out that I think Ulti's theory makes sense in theory, and is something that I believed, but it seemed to be proved wrong pretty clearly in the last Games Contest. If Ryu H. collapses against M. Chief I would expect it to come more from losing design votes more than anything.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/26/2010 9:19:37 PM | message detail
But no this isn't a SFF deal necessarily this is just a "why on earth would Ryu H be as strong as the Chief" deal.

If Chief were a strong character, this might be a valid argument.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 1/26/2010 9:19:48 PM | message detail
Just thinking, what's with platforming mascots being obscure animals? I mean, hedgehogs? Echidnas? Bandicoots? I guess odd animals like that are consider more "hip", which is why everyone seems to rebel against them when they grow up.
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charmander6000 | Posted 1/26/2010 9:20:13 PM | message detail
ask any xbox/xbox 360 owner who they prefer. A random ninja from a game that didnt even sell 1 million copies, or the icon of the system that has sold nearly 30 million copies

Looks like somebody hasn't played Ninja Gaiden

/ulti

Also sales have played such a big role in determining the winner.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 1/26/2010 9:20:29 PM | message detail
because games = characters. No wonder the Call of Duty characters are doing so well this year.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/26/2010 9:20:31 PM | message detail

From: MyWorldIsCrono | #385
Okay I'll give you another example

we constantly say that Nintendo sff's ToS. If it sff's ToS, why would Halo not SFF Ninja Gaiden?


One of these isn't console exclusive

Can you guess which one?
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LOLContests | Posted 1/26/2010 9:20:39 PM | message detail
ask any xbox/xbox 360 owner who they prefer. A random ninja from a game that didnt even sell 1 million copies, or the icon of the system that has sold nearly 30 million copies

How is the same not true for Halo/KOTOR or San Andreas/God of War?
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/26/2010 9:21:11 PM | message detail
It's comparable to Mario/Samus, though we haven't seen the result of this one yet. Give Chief a chance to flop too.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/26/2010 9:21:12 PM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #390
ask any xbox/xbox 360 owner who they prefer. A random ninja from a game that didnt even sell 1 million copies, or the icon of the system that has sold nearly 30 million copies

Looks like somebody hasn't played Ninja Gaiden

/ulti

Also sales have played such a big role in determining the winner.


It is when Ninja Gaiden games apparently have a god awful playrate on gamefaqs if the goty polls are any indication.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 1/26/2010 9:21:26 PM | message detail
I'm pretty sure after Drake jobbing to The Boss that any claims that the PS3 is a console worth discussing have gone out the window.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 1/26/2010 9:21:29 PM | message detail
On the subject of Halo/KOTOR... would I be the only one to take Darth Revan over MC?

Or Hayabusa?

...I'd take Revan over a lot of characters okay
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LOLContests | Posted 1/26/2010 9:21:42 PM | message detail
It is when Ninja Gaiden games apparently have a god awful playrate on gamefaqs if the goty polls are any indication.

Then how did Okami come close to Halo 2?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/26/2010 9:21:48 PM | message detail
How is the same not true for Halo/KOTOR or San Andreas/God of War?

Because KOTOR was on PC, too!

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Lopen | Posted 1/26/2010 9:22:08 PM | message detail
Chief isn't a weak character. Really the only stats that would have him below Ryu H are those which still treat Zero as a good match for Auron.

I'm not the one that's stuck in the past here.
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