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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 802

KamikazePotato | Posted 1/26/2010 9:39:41 PM | message detail
You mean how Luigi just last year beat the crap out of Bowser while Yoshi couldn't pull away from Fox McCloud?

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MarioSuperstar | Posted 1/26/2010 9:39:45 PM | message detail
This still isn't exactly a bad performance though.
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charmander6000 | Posted 1/26/2010 9:40:20 PM | message detail
Overall Master Chief needs to perform AT LEAST similar to Hayabusa for that match to remain debatable.
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/26/2010 9:40:20 PM | message detail
Still taking Yoshi in a rematch with Luigi. He won the first match and he always wins the favorite Mario character polls, so......

I have no clue how the Bowser/Yoshi/Luigi triangle works in matches between themselves. Most confusing group of contest characters ever.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 1/26/2010 9:40:31 PM | message detail
Why the hell are we debating Ryu H vs Master Chief when it's obvious Spy is going to kick both their asses?

Ryu H's performance against Crash is kinda sad. Master Chief's much stronger than his 2004 anti-Xbox GameFAQs self, and Crash hasn't exactly done anything of note besides a bunch of crappy games nobody even knows existed. Even with MC around his worst and Crash around his best, MC still scored a higher percentage than Ryu is pulling off here. I guess you could blame lower votals, but still.

Master Chief is not going to be a pushover. GameFAQs likes the Xbox line now. Master Chief may not be 2007-level strength, but he's also not the same chump who almost lost to Felix. Master Chief's much more well-known and has had a lot of solid match behind him in recent years. He'll pull a respectable performance against Spy and get 55-60% on Ryu next round. Thinking MC's weak enough to lose to Ryu H is like thinking Gordon's still weak enough to lose to Tina Armstrong. Master Chief now is a whole other beast than the Master Chief of before.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/26/2010 9:40:58 PM | message detail
It's really not confusing at all. Luigi would just...win. With ease.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/26/2010 9:41:43 PM | message detail
Yoshi/Luigi 2004 means nothing since it occurred pre-site shift when Luigi would have struggled to beat Jill Valentine. Now Princess Peach struggles to beat Jill Valentine.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 1/26/2010 9:42:25 PM | message detail
Luigi > Bowser > Yoshi now

Chief is going to suck later, and I doubt it matters in any way unless he scores 51% or something.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 1/26/2010 9:42:39 PM | message detail
Luigi didn't exactly blow out Kirby or anything, and Pikachu was eerily close to him in 2k7. Fox isn't exactly a chump, either. That match doesn't sit well, as I said.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 1/26/2010 9:42:59 PM | message detail
Crash today is nowhere near Crash of the past. Didn't he get blown out by KOS-MOS once upon a time? He's actually been decent in 4-ways and statistically speaking he's right around the fodder line; I doubt Chief would get 70% himself if only Samus managed a tripling.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 1/26/2010 9:43:05 PM | message detail
Again, Bowser and Yoshi have plenty of reason to fall the past couple of years due to increased irrelevancy (besides Bowser's Inside Story, which only came out recently), while Luigi's been in the limelight as much as ever while shaking off his wuss-stigma. Luigi has great reason to be above Bowser and Yoshi at this rate.

Yet I have a feeling I'll have to post this a few more times before people actually read it.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/26/2010 9:43:21 PM | message detail
Fox isn't a chump, but he shouldn't have been closer to Yoshi than Yoshi was to LFF'd Sora.
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HaRRicH | Posted 1/26/2010 9:43:30 PM | message detail
I don't buy Halo getting any special respect on this site -- whether it be Halo barely beating SW:KotOR to determine the biggest game on the Xbox, Halo 3 losing to several then-less-established FPS-games like CoD4 or Portal to maintain its position as the FPS-series of our time, or MC against other Xbox-prominent characters.

I mean, do you take MC to SFF HK-47? SFF GlaDOS or WCC? Would Halo SFF Morrowind? This site and the internet in general has shown a pretty clear disdain for the series, so I don't count on him to SFF much of anything not Halo-related. MC's looking good to win this match if he doesn't choke against Spy, but MC's not winning over Hayabusa because of an Xbox-hierarchy. If he wins, it's because he's stronger.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 1/26/2010 9:44:08 PM | message detail
Fox isn't a chump, but he shouldn't have been closer to Yoshi than Yoshi was to LFF'd Sora.

...I blame Squall's inability to look happy without scaring children.
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/26/2010 9:44:12 PM | message detail
Luigi rising relative to Bowser/Yoshi isn't what caused that group to be confusing in the first place. Yoshi's dominance of the favorite Mario character polls did that.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/26/2010 9:44:30 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1342

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2544
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2117

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3278

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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/26/2010 9:45:03 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #465
Luigi rising relative to Bowser/Yoshi isn't what caused that group to be confusing in the first place. Yoshi's dominance of the favorite Mario character polls did that.


Yeah, but when he lost handily to Bowser in 2003, that poll kind of went out of the window.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/26/2010 9:45:03 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #462
Fox isn't a chump, but he shouldn't have been closer to Yoshi than Yoshi was to LFF'd Sora.


Who knows? Fox did pretty darn well against Sora in R1 and dismantled Pikachu back in the day. If he's still clearly stronger than Pikachu, who held up relatively well against Luigi, I can see Fox doing as well as he did no problemo.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/26/2010 9:46:13 PM | message detail
Fox did pretty well, but he was closer to Chris Redfield than he was to Sora at the same time.

Speaking of Fox/Pikachu, I'd like to see how that match goes today, actually. We've already seen Sora turn around a doubling on Aerith. I have a feeling Pikachu could do the same.
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/26/2010 9:46:39 PM | message detail
I've always thought very highly of Fox, and don't hold that against Yoshi at all. He put 25% on Cloud in 2002, doubled Pikachu, and did only a tad worse against Link than Yoshi did, before his contest hiatus of several years. In that time he became the face of SSBM, while Smash became dramatically stronger, so he had plenty of reason to be strong when he returned to the contest.
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 1/26/2010 9:46:41 PM | message detail
Again, Bowser and Yoshi have plenty of reason to fall the past couple of years due to increased irrelevancy (besides Bowser's Inside Story, which only came out recently), while Luigi's been in the limelight as much as ever while shaking off his wuss-stigma. Luigi has great reason to be above Bowser and Yoshi at this rate.


Every game Luigi's in, Bowser is in too. There's no reason Bowser would become irrelavent when Luigi is rising. Yoshi probably has the best reason of any of them to boost now (since it looks like Bowser's Inside Story doesn't count for much here) because he just had his first appearance in a major Mario game since what.. Sunshine? And no one even liked Sunshine ;>_>
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 1/26/2010 9:47:32 PM | message detail
Eh, I can kind of see an Xbox character hierarchy. Not so much a game hierarchy considering how weak the Halo games are here, but I can see Master Chief being the strongest Xbox character.

The thing is, there aren't really "Xbox characters" like there are Nintendo characters or Square characters. It'd be like filing Vercetti, Kratos, and Crash into a PS2 hierarchy. I'd feel confident Kratos would crush any non-Square PS2 character, but is it really PS2 hierarchy or just Kratos being stronger than a bunch of characters on his console?

Yeah, on second though, I'm not buying the Xbox hierarchy myself. Sorry, guys.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/26/2010 9:47:45 PM | message detail
Hayabusa is over 64% now, if anyone cares.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 1/26/2010 9:48:01 PM | message detail
I sure hope people don't think Mario characters boost based on their games!
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/26/2010 9:49:06 PM | message detail
I only care if I get to see more of KH's spin on how this isn't a bad result for Ryu at all

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red sox 777 | Posted 1/26/2010 9:49:59 PM | message detail
It isn't if you take Crash's 4-way results against Samus seriously.

Considering I did exactly the opposite of that though, I have no room to do damage control here.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/26/2010 9:50:16 PM | message detail

From: Not_Wylvane | #472
Eh, I can kind of see an Xbox character hierarchy. Not so much a game hierarchy considering how weak the Halo games are here, but I can see Master Chief being the strongest Xbox character.

The thing is, there aren't really "Xbox characters" like there are Nintendo characters or Square characters. It'd be like filing Vercetti, Kratos, and Crash into a PS2 hierarchy. I'd feel confident Kratos would crush any non-Square PS2 character, but is it really PS2 hierarchy or just Kratos being stronger than a bunch of characters on his console?

Yeah, on second though, I'm not buying the Xbox hierarchy myself. Sorry, guys.


This is actually a very good point. With the increased popularity of multiplatform games, you start seeing less and less "This character is a _________ character" because they're very rarely associated with one console anymore. Console loyalty or company loyalty was something that really didn't matter by the time the XBox rolled around.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/26/2010 9:50:48 PM | message detail
Based on the LOL 4-way stats, Hayabusa's projected to get 65% on Crash.
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creativename | Posted 1/26/2010 9:51:01 PM | message detail
This Master Chief will console SFF Ryu nonsense is monkey-tard levels of dumb, honestly. This is GameFAQs, not XBoxfanboymagazine.com. This is one of those "...seriously, stats topic?" moments.

MC should be significantly stronger than Ryu, especially during the day.

But needless to say, nothing is given with Chief. Especially with Halo 3 hype even further removed now. It's possible Chief has weakened, though I could not guess what the probability of that is.


I don't buy Halo getting any special respect on this site -- whether it be Halo barely beating SW:KotOR to determine the biggest game on the Xbox, Halo 3 losing to several then-less-established FPS-games like CoD4 or Portal to maintain its position as the FPS-series of our time, or MC against other Xbox-prominent characters.

I mean, do you take MC to SFF HK-47? SFF GlaDOS or WCC? Would Halo SFF Morrowind? This site and the internet in general has shown a pretty clear disdain for the series, so I don't count on him to SFF much of anything not Halo-related. MC's looking good to win this match if he doesn't choke against Spy, but MC's not winning over Hayabusa because of an Xbox-hierarchy. If he wins, it's because he's stronger.


^Yeah, what he said.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 1/26/2010 9:51:35 PM | message detail
So why is Crash's number on Samus weird? Isn't Crash through Magus giving you a similar result anyway? (as in, the Magus that got trounced by Alucard?)

I don't see anything Crazy about Crash being high end fodder.
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ZFS | Posted 1/26/2010 9:52:31 PM | message detail
If he wins, it's because he's stronger.

Yep, this is a good post. If Hayabusa loses it won't be because he got SFF'd thanks to being lower on a 'Xbox hierarchy.' I will say it makes sense for some characters to share fans, but Hayabusa and Master Chief don't strike me as pulling from the same group of people. Hayabusa isn't even strictly an Xbox character to begin with. Both of Ninja Gaiden and Ninja Gaiden II are on the PS3.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/26/2010 9:52:54 PM | message detail

From: MarioSuperstar | #480
So why is Crash's number on Samus weird? Isn't Crash through Magus giving you a similar result anyway? (as in, the Magus that got trounced by Alucard?)

I don't see anything Crazy about Crash being high end fodder.


There isn't. People can't get over a result from 2004 though, for some reason.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 1/26/2010 9:53:11 PM | message detail
I only care if I get to see more of KH's spin on how this isn't a bad result for Ryu at all

Based on Hayabusa = Zero 2k8 R2 and using Crash's match from last year, Snake is expected to beat Samus with 53% right now. That's a pretty bad result but there's room for improvement!
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AsurasKordoth | Posted 1/26/2010 9:53:20 PM | message detail
Man I just realized how boring this entire Mushroom division has been... It's been all about predicting the percentage not the winner. Wake me up when it's Kefka/Arthas. At least that one should be semi-interesting.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/26/2010 9:54:05 PM | message detail

From: AsurasKordoth | #484
Man I just realized how boring this entire Mushroom division has been... It's been all about predicting the percentage not the winner. Wake me up when it's Kefka/Arthas. At least that one should be semi-interesting.


The Mushroom Division has moved me from 10th in the Oracle to 60th.

I can't wait to get out of this stupid division.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 1/26/2010 9:54:07 PM | message detail

From: MoogleKupo141 | #471
Again, Bowser and Yoshi have plenty of reason to fall the past couple of years due to increased irrelevancy (besides Bowser's Inside Story, which only came out recently), while Luigi's been in the limelight as much as ever while shaking off his wuss-stigma. Luigi has great reason to be above Bowser and Yoshi at this rate.


Every game Luigi's in, Bowser is in too. There's no reason Bowser would become irrelavent when Luigi is rising. Yoshi probably has the best reason of any of them to boost now (since it looks like Bowser's Inside Story doesn't count for much here) because he just had his first appearance in a major Mario game since what.. Sunshine? And no one even liked Sunshine ;>_>


Bowser's only big game besides M&L3 was Galaxy, which he wasn't too big a factor in other than the token boss, and Bowser didn't even do much in NSMB or NSMBW, with Bowser Jr. doing all the work (most underrated character ever, BTW). Meanwhile, Luigi's back to being the number 2 for Mario, and Galaxy was the first time Luigi was playable in a 3D platformer (sorry, Luigi's Mansion, but people want Luigi to ****ing jump), plus he's unlockable in NSMB. And he's not a wuss in any of them!

Bowser and Yoshi are essentially non-entities compared to Luigi at this point. Of course, this year could be different thanks to Bowser's Inside Story giving Bowser his first huge role in awhile and NSMBW finally putting Yoshi back in the limelight (though honestly it's easy to forget Yoshi's even in the game since he's only available in a few levels and you can't use him outside of them, essentially making Yoshi the Kuribo's Shoe of NSMBW). Of course, Yoshi has SMG2 to look forward to, and that's probably the boost he'll need to keep up with everyone else. Better hope Yoshi plays a bigger role in SMG2 than he does in NSMBW!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/26/2010 9:55:07 PM | message detail
Dude, Bowser was AWESOME in Mario Galaxy. One of my favorite final boss fights in any game.
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Lucid Faia | Posted 1/26/2010 9:55:23 PM | message detail
It really is amazing how you guys talk about old matches like they happened yesterday. Last year, I was thrilled when Snake outlasted Sephiroth, and I completely forgot it ever happened.

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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/26/2010 9:55:43 PM | message detail
Zack matches are never boring in this topic. Seriously, whoever introduced the idea to get Zack Fair into the contests has my sincere gratitude.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 1/26/2010 9:55:44 PM | message detail
Wake me up when it's Kefka/Arthas. At least that one should be semi-interesting.

Hmm... Methinks Chokefka will do what he does best.
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/26/2010 9:55:49 PM | message detail
Based on Hayabusa = Zero 2k8 R2 and using Crash's match from last year, Snake is expected to beat Samus with 53% right now. That's a pretty bad result but there's room for improvement!

That actually sounds very reasonable. 44% on Cloud vs. 41% on Cloud.....
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TheCodeisBosco | Posted 1/26/2010 9:55:54 PM | message detail
Wake me up when it's Kefka/Arthas. At least that one should be semi-interesting.

I'm personally looking forward to Laharl/Neku as well, but that's just me.

(most underrated character ever, BTW).

Nah, that's gotta be Kamek. Poor guy still isn't in a Smash Bros. game. :(

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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/26/2010 9:55:54 PM | message detail
Meanwhile, in Wyoming...

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Woah.

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ZFS | Posted 1/26/2010 9:56:28 PM | message detail
Zack Fair A++ character

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Karma Hunter | Posted 1/26/2010 9:56:30 PM | message detail
Last year, I was thrilled when Snake outlasted Sephiroth, and I completely forgot it ever happened.

That wasn't (just) Sephy, that was Cloud! Seph lost to Kirby!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/26/2010 9:56:41 PM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #489
Zack matches are never boring in this topic. Seriously, whoever introduced the idea to get Zack Fair into the contests has my sincere gratitude.


...Didn't we use to talk about getting Zack into the contests as a joke before he got Crisis Core?
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I tried once but no one followed my lead.
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/26/2010 9:58:13 PM | message detail
I don't remember anyone talking about Zack until during nominations in 2008. Then he made the bracket, some people thought he'd win his division easily, while others thought he'd lose to Wario or Shadow, and the fun began.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/26/2010 9:58:26 PM | message detail
*backstabs Chief*

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Lucid Faia | Posted 1/26/2010 9:58:28 PM | message detail
Ness, A+++ character

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