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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 801

CCatalyst | Posted 1/26/2010 1:35:05 PM | message detail
How am I being a 'bad fan' because I think that Zack can beat Mega Man, and I'm just asking you guys to give me his chances based on that hypothetical situation.

I don't get it -- you guys don't like trolls, but when someone tries to stop being a troll and just talk about stats you give the person such a hard time it makes them not even want to try. That doesn't really make sense.
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DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 1/26/2010 1:36:00 PM | message detail
Zack isn't consistently taking 60+% gains per update. Yuna will cut a bit in the night vote, so this should end up somewhere between 58-59% by the end of the match. Impressive win, I thought 55-57% would be most likely.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 1/26/2010 1:36:33 PM | message detail
Speaking of Mega Man, as a big detractor of him over the past few years I do have to give credit to him for doing that to Cid. I didn't think the Blue Bomber was capable of doing that to any FF7 character anymore (well... maybe Zolom). I'm not really sold on him being out of the reach of the near-elites, of course - he was stumbling even before he walked into that Cube loss, and Zero looked absolutely awful last year - but it's definitely given me reason to hold the door open and see what the rest of the MM crowd does. That Price match does make me uncomfortable still...
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/26/2010 1:37:47 PM | message detail
Well, we'll just have to wait and see what Zero does against Marcus Fenix soon.
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charmander6000 | Posted 1/26/2010 1:38:16 PM | message detail
Again hypothetical situations don't really work unless there's a chance of it happening. This is almost like Pokemon Trainer Red again.

If it makes you feel better if Sonic > Mega Man, Zack chances would be 50%, whether you think Sonic hasn't dropped or if he has dropped.
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Sonic_Factor | Posted 1/26/2010 1:39:03 PM | message detail
So, will MM break 40% on Mario?
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 1/26/2010 1:40:06 PM | message detail

From: CCatalyst | Posted: 1/26/2010 4:30:28 PM | #445
Also, assuming that Lightning = Cid (so we assume Sonic > Mega Man), where does that put Zack's chances at beating Mega Man assuming Yuna would beat Cid/Lightning with at least 55/45?

Stop ignoring me; I'm seriously curious. In this assumption we are giving Sonic the benefit of the doubt that he is still stronger than Mega Man (there's no reason, really, to believe that Mega Man gained on Sonic for some reason). Where does this put Zack against Mega Man??


Well to be 100% serious, the absolute ceiling for Zack is Sora: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2552

He could easily do about that well. And to also be 100% serious, I'm not taking an account bet on a stupidly obvious match against someone with 20 karma. If I didn't want to read your posts or whatever, I'd use the ignore button.
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CCatalyst | Posted 1/26/2010 1:40:20 PM | message detail
I like his chances then. I'll stop being overzealous -- but I think Zack has a legit shot at both Sonic and Mega Man, and I love Sonic.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/26/2010 1:41:14 PM | message detail

From: Sonic_Factor | #456
So, will MM break 40% on Mario?


I'd be surprised if he didn't (barring some weird SFF in there). He'd have to get 55% on Snake before he could hit 60% on Mega Man (Well, assuming the Blue Bomber hasn't changed since 2006, but who knows? I can't get a good read on the guy. All I know is that he doesn't look as bad as Sonic).
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Karma Hunter | Posted 1/26/2010 1:41:29 PM | message detail
I wonder how much that match will actually tell us. Are we going to see the Fenix who's worth a smidge more than Ocelot, or the one that's a hair under Rydia? And if Zack SFFed Cecil, what's to say Auron didn't SFF Rydia (okay... I can think of two big reasons)?

Zero's been really inconsistent even before his bombs last year, though. 2k7 was a mess too.
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Sonic_Factor | Posted 1/26/2010 1:41:34 PM | message detail
Zack is pretty strong, but I don't see him being as strong as Vincent. I could see Vincent hitting 60% on Yuna.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/26/2010 1:42:01 PM | message detail
I could buy Zack having a decent shot at Sonic, but not Mega Man. I doubt he beats either of them though. It'd put him too close to Auron, really.
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Lopen | Posted 1/26/2010 1:43:28 PM | message detail
Master Chief gonna be shreddin Mega Man in two rounds. "Out of reach of elites" we'll see that one proven wrong in a hurry...!
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 1/26/2010 1:43:45 PM | message detail
Zack beating Sonic this year would have been priceless. But Mega Man hasn't embarrassed himself nearly as much as Sonic has, and actually still has respect in most gaming circles. Sonic's just a damn has-been at this point.
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Sonic_Factor | Posted 1/26/2010 1:43:47 PM | message detail
55% on Snake is pretty much a given perhaps. Snake only hit 47.5% on Samus with MGS4 hype. That, and Snake didn't even hit 43% on Mario in their last encounter. Snake has gone up some though obviously.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/26/2010 1:44:05 PM | message detail
Also, Wyoming'd

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3751&region=USXWY

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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/26/2010 1:44:59 PM | message detail
Snake has gone up a lot since then, and 2006 was when Nintendo was at its peak. Snake vs. Mario or Samus would be decently close nowadays, I figure.

From: Lopen | #463
Master Chief gonna be shreddin Mega Man in two rounds. "Out of reach of elites" we'll see that one proven wrong in a hurry...!


I didn't realize Master Chief was even going to be facing Mega Man in this contest!
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ShatteredElysium | Posted 1/26/2010 1:46:31 PM | message detail
I could buy Zack having a decent shot at Sonic, but not Mega Man. I doubt he beats either of them though. It'd put him too close to Auron, really.

Granted it's stupidly old but don't 2k5 xstats put Zack pretty much bang on 2k5 Auron?
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HaRRicH | Posted 1/26/2010 1:46:42 PM | message detail
Until we see more from the Sonic-crew -- specifically Sonic -- I'm not giving Lightning much credit. We've seen Sackboy based off of hype and Lucas based off of a non-NA game (plus SSBB)...and, though those are worst-case scenarios, it gives me little hope for Lightning to mean a lot until FF13 hits America. Axel still beat her in the vote-in polls, and he barely broke 30% on Mega Man in 2006.

I'm taking every established new-Square character we've seen so far over Lightning...except Zidane (probably). Zack definitely beats her, and I imagine most of us take Cid, Rikku, Vivi, and Yuna over her too. Assuming all that's correct, Sonic's not looking very good.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/26/2010 1:47:27 PM | message detail

From: ShatteredElysium | #468
I could buy Zack having a decent shot at Sonic, but not Mega Man. I doubt he beats either of them though. It'd put him too close to Auron, really.

Granted it's stupidly old but don't 2k5 xstats put Zack pretty much bang on 2k5 Auron?


Auron's stronger now than he was in 2005. He had KHII after SC2K5.
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charmander6000 | Posted 1/26/2010 1:48:31 PM | message detail
Speaking of Master Chief, who badly do you think he'll get anti-voted? Pikachu was able to get 67% on Spy last contest if you need a reference.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 1/26/2010 1:48:39 PM | message detail
Snake in 2006 had Brawl/MGS4 hype. Snake in 2008 had Brawl and MGS4 RELEASED.

If you don't think he can at least make up the difference against Samus of all characters with that, I don't know what to tell you. Were his 2k8 matches not impressive enough or something?
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charmander6000 | Posted 1/26/2010 1:49:40 PM | message detail
who = how

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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/26/2010 1:49:40 PM | message detail
Were his 2k8 matches not impressive enough or something?

Impressive enough that BT should have closed his account if he weren't a welcher!
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Sonic_Factor | Posted 1/26/2010 1:50:35 PM | message detail
I believe he's at least = to Samus now. Still, Mario is the next level. He's proven it in all formats.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/26/2010 1:51:27 PM | message detail
Mario's not even that far above Snake or Samus anymore, really. He looked pretty bad against Samus (compared to 2005 and the Battle Royale in 2006) last year.
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ShatteredElysium | Posted 1/26/2010 1:51:44 PM | message detail
Auron's stronger now than he was in 2005. He had KHII after SC2K5.

I haven't played any Kingdom Hearts game so have no clue. Did Yuna not get a KH appearance too?
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KanzarisKelshen | Posted 1/26/2010 1:52:10 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | Posted: 1/26/2010 4:51:27 PM | #476
Mario's not even that far above Snake or Samus anymore, really. He looked pretty bad against Samus (compared to 2005 and the Battle Royale in 2006) last year.


Because using Mario's last year makes a lot of sense. >_>
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Karma Hunter | Posted 1/26/2010 1:52:18 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3304

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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/26/2010 1:52:28 PM | message detail

From: ShatteredElysium | #477
Auron's stronger now than he was in 2005. He had KHII after SC2K5.

I haven't played any Kingdom Hearts game so have no clue. Did Yuna not get a KH appearance too?


Yuna's KH appearance was...well, awful, in a word. Forgettable, to add a second word.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/26/2010 1:52:42 PM | message detail

From: KanzarisKelshen | #478
Because using Mario's last year makes a lot of sense. >_>


Against Samus, it does.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 1/26/2010 1:53:56 PM | message detail
Because using Mario's last year makes a lot of sense. >_>

What's wrong with using last year's semifinal? Samus resists SFF more than Mario or something? Sure, I can buy tha-

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2122

...oh. Oh right.
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Sonic_Factor | Posted 1/26/2010 1:54:17 PM | message detail
Did you seriously just link that? LOL, cmon man. Link in a match means he gets the votes.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/26/2010 1:54:46 PM | message detail

From: Sonic_Factor | #483
Did you seriously just link that? LOL, cmon man. Link in a match means he gets the votes.


Compare it to 2006 when Link was in the poll with Mario and Samus, too. There's a decent bit of difference.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 1/26/2010 1:55:39 PM | message detail
Just like how Link's presence in the 2006 Battle Royale meant that Snake was going to lose to Sephiroth in 2008?

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KanzarisKelshen | Posted 1/26/2010 1:56:13 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | Posted: 1/26/2010 4:52:42 PM | #481
Against Samus, it does.


Unless my calculations are failing me horribly, he scored 58.52% against Samus head to head. Am I missing something here?
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Sonic_Factor | Posted 1/26/2010 1:56:45 PM | message detail
/facepalm. because theyre both nintendo
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/26/2010 1:56:47 PM | message detail

From: KanzarisKelshen | #486
Unless my calculations are failing me horribly, he scored 58.52% against Samus head to head. Am I missing something here?


In 2008? Calculate again.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/26/2010 1:57:52 PM | message detail

From: Sonic_Factor | #487
/facepalm. because theyre both nintendo


Yes, but what makes Mario perform worse relative to Samus in 2008 compared to 2006?

It's not Link.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 1/26/2010 2:02:23 PM | message detail
Aw yeah the return of ZackFAQs. Pretty good show, but I don't think he's got a shot at Mega Man. How did that come up?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/26/2010 2:03:34 PM | message detail

From: RPGuy96 | #490
Aw yeah the return of ZackFAQs. Pretty good show, but I don't think he's got a shot at Mega Man. How did that come up?


*shrugs*

It just...did.
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Sonic_Factor | Posted 1/26/2010 2:05:00 PM | message detail
Which match in 2k6 are you referring to exactly leonhart? If you look at the 2k6 TOC match where samus was eliminated, the difference between the 2k8 poll was nearly the same. That was only 1 year after Mario destroyed samus.
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Seginustemple | Posted 1/26/2010 2:06:34 PM | message detail
I still believe Mario isn't a level above Snake=Samus except for when he faces the latter. I think Snake takes him any day of the week right now.
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DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 1/26/2010 2:07:54 PM | message detail
Personally I'd put Snake on Mario's level. Especially considering how well BIG BOSS did with a good picture.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 1/26/2010 2:08:23 PM | message detail
Mario's percentage on Samus in the 2006 Battle Royale - 59.96%
Mario's percentage on Samus in the 2008 Semifinals - 52.92%
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/26/2010 2:09:15 PM | message detail

From: Sonic_Factor | #492
Which match in 2k6 are you referring to exactly leonhart? If you look at the 2k6 TOC match where samus was eliminated, the difference between the 2k8 poll was nearly the same. That was only 1 year after Mario destroyed samus.


If you're talking raw percentage, yeah, but there's more to it than that.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 1/26/2010 2:09:51 PM | message detail
What's funny is Snake could beat Seph, and I'd still take Seph > Mario > Snake > Seph. Nintendo doesn't have the Square stigma.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 1/26/2010 2:09:53 PM | message detail
Err, *53.92%. Lousy typos.
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Sonic_Factor | Posted 1/26/2010 2:10:08 PM | message detail
mm=weakest n9
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Sonic_Factor | Posted 1/26/2010 2:10:26 PM | message detail
aw ccrap fail
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