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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 800

RPGuy96 | Posted 1/25/2010 2:39:50 PM | message detail
Alucard/Magus makes Arthas look about the same as Magus, which is not a position held in high regard at this point. Where that stands relative to Kefka is up to your interpretation, but I do remember Kefka/Magus being brought up during that match and several people siding with Kefka.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/25/2010 2:41:07 PM | message detail
And that says nothing about Bowser being on 'roids thanks to the Villains Contest.

Yeah, but Bowser still lost to Snake in the most ideal situation he could ever ask for when Snake was the weakest link of the Noble Nine by a decent bit, and he still beat Ryu worse than Mega Man beat him the next year.
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/25/2010 2:42:27 PM | message detail
Kefka/Magus was only brought up in that match because of how badly Magus was doing. Before the match, no one would have taken Kefka, and most wouldn't have taken Arthas over Magus either. Arthas got 42% on Alucard. We knew this before the contest. Alucard then went way above expectations on Magus. How can that possibly make Arthas look bad?

Link/Thrall is also a point in Arthas's favor I think, so to me, it's 2 matches in support of Arthas right now and 1 match (today's, the most flimsy of the 3 for the reason that Prinny is an unknown) against him.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/25/2010 2:44:23 PM | message detail
dismiss it as the ravings of a delusional Kefka fan as you wish.

Will do!
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RPGuy96 | Posted 1/25/2010 2:48:51 PM | message detail
My personal conception of Arthas and Ike was 44% on Pikachu, not 42% on Alucard. I would argue that there's a pretty significant difference there; Ness managed 48% on Alucard, for heaven's sake. Maybe it's just me being blind for remember that first round match and ignoring the second, though. And Ike looks really bad here, and while there's a reasonable argument for decoupling Ike and Arthas, that's what got me thinking about this. I'll grant you that Prinny is unknown but this is embarrassing no matter how you slice it.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/25/2010 2:51:21 PM | message detail
Arthas got 41% on Pikachu in Round 2, with Captain Falcon in the poll. I'm not sure where you got that 44% from.

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RPGuy96 | Posted 1/25/2010 2:52:21 PM | message detail
The first round, admittedly with Ike in the poll.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/25/2010 2:52:38 PM | message detail
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/25/2010 2:53:11 PM | message detail
And I'll say the same thing I said yesterday when people were calling for Zidane's head after he failed to blow out Claptrap: these are new characters. New characters who are possibly benefiting from general joke votes and have massive pic advantages. Are we seriously going to read that far into this?

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red sox 777 | Posted 1/25/2010 2:54:27 PM | message detail
The 44% was his round 1 number, with Ike in the poll.

For what it's worth, Ike did better against Pikachu than Captain Falcon, and Falcon did better against Alucard than Magus despite Diddy Kong being in the poll (and Kratos Aurion, if you believe in ToS/Nintendo overlap).
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 1/25/2010 2:55:54 PM | message detail
The thing with using 4ways is they fluctuate all over the place from round to round, let alone across years.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/25/2010 3:10:17 PM | message detail
Ike with over 64% average that last hour. He's getting better. Breaking 63% is almost assured, though probably not much more than that.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 1/25/2010 3:12:16 PM | message detail
Just out of curiosity, who got the 100th Noble Nine victory over non-NNers (TRE or Luster?)
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/25/2010 3:16:21 PM | message detail
If I did my math correctly, Snake > Soma Cruz in 2006 was victory #100.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/25/2010 3:16:49 PM | message detail
It's very possible I'm wrong though. I was just doing the math off the top of my head.
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ZFS | Posted 1/25/2010 3:17:29 PM | message detail
Hey, that's my Zack pic. Nice.

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MarioSuperstar | Posted 1/25/2010 3:49:52 PM | message detail
The thing is, I'd actually take Magus over Kefka fine.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 1/25/2010 3:55:09 PM | message detail
I've been playing with Jecht in Dissidia (such a bad game, but it's so randomly fun), and it'll be a crime if he doesn't backhand the hell out of Phoenix.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/25/2010 4:09:32 PM | message detail
I don't see any possible way he loses it. He's got good character design and from one of the top games on the site, and if limited screen time couldn't hold back Zack, that shouldn't hurt Jecht either.
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vcharon | Posted 1/25/2010 4:34:05 PM | message detail
For reference, I fully supported the other 800 topic.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 1/25/2010 4:45:19 PM | message detail

From: vcharon | Posted: 1/25/2010 7:34:05 PM | #120
For reference, I fully supported the other 800 topic.


XFD rof- *gets shot*
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 1/25/2010 4:46:52 PM | message detail
my girlfriend should have made the 800 topic!!
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 1/25/2010 4:46:57 PM | message detail
I don't see any possible way he loses it. He's got good character design and from one of the top games on the site, and if limited screen time couldn't hold back Zack, that shouldn't hurt Jecht either.

I'd say that if Jecht fails to make it out of his fourpack, that'd be a massive disappointment.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 1/25/2010 4:50:18 PM | message detail

From: MyWorldIsCrono | Posted: 1/25/2010 7:09:32 PM | #119
I don't see any possible way he loses it. He's got good character design and from one of the top games on the site, and if limited screen time couldn't hold back Zack, that shouldn't hurt Jecht either.


Zack is actually the biggest reason I picked Jecht to win twice. He surely got little to no strength from Crisis Core, and Jecht isn't going to get much strength from being Dissidia's version of Akuma/Meta Knight. His strength will all be from Final Fantasy X.

On the LOL X-stat calculator, 2007 Phoenix beats Sin something like 53-47. Even rounding up and making that 55-45 to account for random 4way nonsense, Jecht can easily make that up. Phoenix is the type of character to be a 4way star who flops 1v1, and Jecht > Sin.
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vcharon | Posted 1/25/2010 4:52:01 PM | message detail
Jecht shouldn't have too much trouble I think. He looked great in the vote-in, though I realize it means very little, but it's the only thing we've got so far.
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/25/2010 4:54:23 PM | message detail
Jecht just doesn't seem like the kind of character Gamefaqs would like. He did do very well in the vote-in though, so maybe my personal expectations are just out of touch with reality.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 1/25/2010 4:57:53 PM | message detail
On the LOL X-stat calculator, 2007 Phoenix beats Sin something like 53-47. Even rounding up and making that 55-45 to account for random 4way nonsense, Jecht can easily make that up. Phoenix is the type of character to be a 4way star who flops 1v1, and Jecht > Sin.

That's Sin value is going through a Ganondorf that got 42% on Sephiroth. Methinks it's more than a bit inflated.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 1/25/2010 4:58:46 PM | message detail
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CP724 | Posted 1/25/2010 4:59:33 PM | message detail
Where is hochimin?:(
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 1/25/2010 5:04:28 PM | message detail
He's already bombing hard, he usually disappears once he gets a debated match wrong.
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/25/2010 5:09:09 PM | message detail
I checked his bracket, and he has a ton of picks that are the opposite of mine.

That's not a good sign, as I greatly respect his contest skills.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 1/25/2010 5:11:40 PM | message detail

From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 1/25/2010 7:57:53 PM | #127
On the LOL X-stat calculator, 2007 Phoenix beats Sin something like 53-47. Even rounding up and making that 55-45 to account for random 4way nonsense, Jecht can easily make that up. Phoenix is the type of character to be a 4way star who flops 1v1, and Jecht > Sin.

That's Sin value is going through a Ganondorf that got 42% on Sephiroth. Methinks it's more than a bit inflated.


So is 4way Phoenix.
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charmander6000 | Posted 1/25/2010 5:16:25 PM | message detail
Match XXI: (3) Mega Man vs. (14) Cid Highwind

Information

Name: Mega Man
Game/Series: Mega Man
Previous Contest: 2008
Performance: 3rd in round 3

Name: Cid Highwind
Game/Series: Final Fantasy VII
Previous Contest: N/A
Performance: N/A

Analysis

Despite taking a nomination hit because of Mega Man X Mega Man still manages to get a 3 seed. However his opponent is arguably one of the strongest 14 seeds of the contest. Mega Man shouldn’t have much trouble winning, but his usual blowout wins won’t be repeated in this contest. Final Fantasy VII also one step closer in completing the set, maybe next year we should rally Red XIII or Barret.

The only information we have on Cid is the vote-in poll and even then he was thrown in the mix with Aerith. Still he was able to equal her suggesting that they have similar strength which would make him a fairly high mid-carder. It’s still not enough to pose a threat to Mega Man, but it will give him at least respectable performance.

Mega Man may have dropped the ball by losing to the WCC can letting Snake score so high on him, but at the same time Zero was in that poll siphoning support. I don’t see Mega Man being threatened by non-Noble Nine members with the exception of the potential breakers and considering there are none in his path it seems nothing is stopping him from reaching the division finals.

It’s a shame that Cid wasn’t given a better spot in the bracket. He could have actually won a few matches if given a better position. Still if the vote-in poll is any indication Cid should be able to break 40% which is far from terrible performance in his maiden contest.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Mega Man > Cid Highwind

charmander6000’s Prediction: Mega Man wins, 57.87% - 42.13%

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Not_Wylvane | Posted 1/25/2010 5:17:17 PM | message detail
ertyu should've made Part 800.

Only reason four-ways should be taken with a grain of salt is because of all the LFF floating around. Other than that, they're surprisingly accurate so far excluding Liquid Snake. Of course, the level of LFF makes things difficult.

I'd take Magus > Kefka in a heartbeat. At least there was a time when Magus was actually strong. Kefka's glory moment was being one of the very few villains in the Villains Contest who wasn't complete fodder, and even then the most impressive thing he did was 70% on Wesker, and even then he still didn't win his division. Magus is pathetic, but he's fallen from a higher point, while Kefka has always been laughably bad ever since his debut match where, after being hyped to be a threat to Crono, he almost lost to Pac-Man. Arthas should have no trouble against Kefka, and the only hope Kefka has is that Knuckles hasn't fallen and Cecil's performance was thanks to an incredibly huge Dissidia boost, which Zidane/Claptrap disagrees with.

Now, Kefka/Shadow, that is a match I want to see, or rather, I would if the very sight of these two characters together wouldn't immediately cause myself severe depression.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 1/25/2010 5:18:34 PM | message detail
I don't respect hochi's contest skills as much as I do his ability to be incredibly arrogant. Now that's a guy who knows how to piss people off and look awesome doing it!
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RPGuy96 | Posted 1/25/2010 5:28:02 PM | message detail
So is 4way Phoenix.

Based on...? If anything, 2007 Phoenix is underrated - he got destroyed in that Mario/Naked Snake/Magus match far worse than his round 1 match predicted.

In fact, let's play with this a little; since you're fond of making baseless assumptions, I'll add some base.

2007 Phoenix got 19% on Mario en route to getting destroyed, when the previous round predicts through Magus that he'd get 24%.

2008 Phoenix got 38% on Liquid who proceeded to get 40% on Mario, admittedly in a pretty bad LFF match. That gives Phoenix 31% on Mario, but that's inflated. Bah, Roxas and Sho are useless and so are Luigi, Bowser, and Geno. I've hit a dead end, unless somebody else can think of something. I'm pretty sure Phoenix 2007 is badly underrated, though I can't say by how much.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/25/2010 5:42:45 PM | message detail
Okay, how about this:

Look at the first 12 hours of any of Phoenix's matches compared to the second half.

That's what Jecht will be facing. He's a night guy too, yeah, but Phoenix is going to make a ridiculous early push and he only has to hold it for half the amount of time he usually would. I picked Jecht and expect him to win, but he'd better bring his A-game to that match.

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 1/25/2010 5:44:41 PM | message detail
I never said Phoenix doesn't have an excellent chance to win. Imagine if it were a 6 hour match.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 1/25/2010 5:44:50 PM | message detail
Phoenix is used to guys who use skillful arguments and even people who falsify evidence, but can Phoenix stand up to a guy who gets so much joy out of verbally berating his own son?

Basically, can Phoenix defend himself against the drunken insults of a sports star, or will Jecht's silver tongue make Phoenix cry like a baby?
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KanzarisKelshen | Posted 1/25/2010 5:45:06 PM | message detail
We thought the same about Ike and destroying Prinny, and he can't even crack the doubling. >_>
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G0EMONIMPACT | Posted 1/25/2010 5:47:17 PM | message detail
aw yeah zidane > ike
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/25/2010 5:47:22 PM | message detail
Phoenix is used to guys who use skillful arguments and even people who falsify evidence, but can Phoenix stand up to a guy who gets so much joy out of verbally berating his own son?

Basically, can Phoenix defend himself against the drunken insults of a sports star, or will Jecht's silver tongue make Phoenix cry like a baby?


If Phoenix ends up crying like a baby, the jury of voters will empathize with him and vote for him.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 1/25/2010 5:47:24 PM | message detail
Phoenix needs to be more manly to beat THE JECHT
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/25/2010 5:47:30 PM | message detail
I almost want to say Phoenix has an outside shot of upsetting Zelda if he gets that far, but he could only hold a lead against Bowser when Luigi was in the same match. Oh well.

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Not_Wylvane | Posted 1/25/2010 5:48:18 PM | message detail
Zelda is royalty. She could change the laws at a whim. Phoenix would have no chance there.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 1/25/2010 5:48:20 PM | message detail
"Difficult-looking legal books stand in a formidable row. They mock me. I tried reading one, and it made my head hurt. When I closed it, it slipped out of my hand. Then my foot hurt too." ~ Phoenix Wright

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 1/25/2010 5:49:20 PM | message detail
There's an outsideshot that Phoenix comes close or even beats Jecht, since we have no idea where Jecht stands.

Phoenix even breaking 40% against Zelda is NEVER going to happen.
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G0EMONIMPACT | Posted 1/25/2010 5:50:09 PM | message detail

From: RPGuy96 | #146
When I closed it, it slipped out of my hand. Then my foot hurt too


"You, beat me? YOU CAN'T EVEN HOLD A BOOK!" *Jecht shots Wright*
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/25/2010 5:50:12 PM | message detail
Zelda? Not a chance. Nintendo could release The Legend of Zelda: Zelda Goes to Kyoto, in which you play as Zelda and go around the world selling copies of Wii Fit and then trading the money for gold which you then deposit into Nintendo's giant gold pool in Kyoto, and Zelda would still win.
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 1/25/2010 5:50:25 PM | message detail
First we have Ezio beating Zelda talk and now PHOENIX beating Zelda talk?

what alternate universe are we in where Zelda is suddenly not a top 15 character?
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