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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 798

UltimaterializerX | Posted 1/24/2010 5:21:15 AM | message detail
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~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~
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~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~
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~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~
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http://thengamer.com/stats

~*Character Contest Histories (Thanks to Raven 2 for the info transfer)*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Contest_Histories

~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

~*All the match pics*~
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~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages

~*Poll Start Times*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Character_Battle_8_Poll_Start_Times

~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~

SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them.

X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process.

Noble Nine - Link, Cloud, Sephiroth, Mario, Crono, Solid Snake, Sonic, Samus and Mega Man.

Near-Elite - The Squall, Auron, Tifa, Vincent, Zelda, Kirby, etc group that has come at, near or even ahead of Noble Nine characters in the past.

For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything.
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voltch | Posted 1/24/2010 5:22:52 AM | message detail
war has changed.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/24/2010 6:04:25 AM | message detail
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/24/2010 6:04:44 AM | message detail
("Is this why Wright always looks so smug whenever he points out a contradiction?...")

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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 1/24/2010 6:37:36 AM | message detail

From: voltch | #002
war has changed.


Thats not what Fallout 3 said
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holy crap, you used an apostrophe to make a word plural at least 3 times in that post. that's like cryptonite to me if I was batman - Bako Ikporamee
voltch | Posted 1/24/2010 6:51:06 AM | message detail
snake doesn't care about yo fallout 3s and w/e the hell they say.
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Pondos | Posted 1/24/2010 6:52:54 AM | message detail
Is that officially the most badass picture Mario has ever had?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/24/2010 10:57:22 AM | message detail
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 1/24/2010 11:03:49 AM | message detail
I've considered Vincent the favorite over Megaman since 2006, although I'm not sure who I'd take now. That's a match we really really need to see. Megaman's not had to face any of the near-elites since Sora in 2006, and has never faced the top end of the near-elite group.

Stupid for a few reasons.

1) Sonic beat Vincent comfortably in 2006, and Mega Man 2k6 = Sonic 2k6
2) Mega Man has had more going for him in the last 2 years than Sonic, Crono or Vincent
3) If Crono can still beat Vincent with how much Frog/Magus have dropped, Mega Man should have no trouble with him.
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vcharon | Posted 1/24/2010 11:05:43 AM | message detail
The flawed part of that is that Crono cannot beat Vincent.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 1/24/2010 11:06:11 AM | message detail
Except Crono has beaten Vincent.
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vcharon | Posted 1/24/2010 11:06:51 AM | message detail
He wouldn't now. The 4-way is good enough evidence for me. Crono has no excuses.
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/24/2010 11:08:04 AM | message detail
1) Sonic beat Vincent comfortably in 2006, and Mega Man 2k6 = Sonic 2k6

That's not what I thought in 2006, though I agree with it now. Hence, that's why I considered Vincent the favorite in 2006 but consider it even now.

3) If Crono can still beat Vincent with how much Frog/Magus have dropped, Mega Man should have no trouble with him.

Crono = Megaman = Vincent = Squall in 2008 sounds pretty reasonable to me.
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EternalxCourage | Posted 1/24/2010 11:11:10 AM | message detail
Zack is going to beat Mega Man this year anyway.
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ExquisiteSamurai | Posted 1/24/2010 11:22:09 AM | message detail
Eternal knows what's up.. Oh and I added you as a friend for SFIV (ps3)

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DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 1/24/2010 11:47:48 AM | message detail
The only reason Mario broke 80% was because of SFF.

Big Boss is putting up 75% in a non-SFF match.

Big Boss (with Naked Snake pic) > Mario next round confirmed.
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Masato_Tanaka | Posted 1/24/2010 11:57:45 AM | message detail
We shall see
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/24/2010 11:58:22 AM | message detail
Big Boss with Naked Snake pic vs. Mario at night? Now thats an interesting match.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/24/2010 12:07:03 PM | message detail
I wonder if Big Boss can outdo Snake's 2005 percentage against Mario.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 1/24/2010 12:11:02 PM | message detail
We're gonna need a badass Big Boss picture though

http://www.videogamesblogger.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/metal-gear-solid-peace-walker-big-boss-artwork.jpg
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/24/2010 12:11:43 PM | message detail
That was the slowest 500 ever.

Also, Big Boss saluting pic needed.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/24/2010 12:12:56 PM | message detail
The best picture for Boss is one in which he looks as much like Solid Snake as possible. That Peace Walker art is obviously better than Old Man Boss in that regard, but it isn't quite as good as the pic he's got today.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 1/24/2010 12:13:06 PM | message detail
As long as we don't get old man/Sean Connery look, he could do really well actually.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 1/24/2010 12:14:21 PM | message detail
The closer to Solid Snake, the better

http://img.qj.net/uploads/articles_module/121027/Big%20Boss_qjpreviewth.jpg
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/24/2010 12:14:50 PM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #022
The best picture for Boss is one in which he looks as much like Solid Snake as possible. That Peace Walker art is obviously better than Old Man Boss in that regard, but it isn't quite as good as the pic he's got today.


That's Peace Walker Boss, too, dude.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/24/2010 12:15:02 PM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #022
The best picture for Boss is one in which he looks as much like Solid Snake as possible. That Peace Walker art is obviously better than Old Man Boss in that regard, but it isn't quite as good as the pic he's got today.


Isnt this Peace Walker we got today? I don't recognize this as MGS3 render..
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/24/2010 12:16:25 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #025
That's Peace Walker Boss, too, dude.


Yes, but one looks more like Solid than the other.

From: TheKoolAidShoto | #024
The closer to Solid Snake, the better

http://img.qj.net/uploads/articles_module/121027/Big%20Boss_qjpreviewth.jpg


Ah, the match where he took Kirby to school. Amazing how he can go from melty old man to arguably the most badass picture in contest history.
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voltch | Posted 1/24/2010 12:17:46 PM | message detail
Nah, we'll need a younger looking face snake pic against Mario, cos it looks more like solid.

if this guy is used though,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Boss_%28Metal_Gear%29

I will hunt down the guy who submitted it and i will make him cry out in pain.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/24/2010 12:20:35 PM | message detail
Speaking of Boss, I never thought about how wasted he was in this bracket. Even in a night match, a good performance against Mario would be no joke. If he can hit the low 40s, he'll make a serious claim to being the strongest non-Square, non-Noble Nine character. I doubt Dante could match that, and I'm not sure if even Ganon or Zelda can match it before SFF.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/24/2010 12:22:10 PM | message detail
I don't think we'll have to worry about Melty Old Boss again. The guy has tons of great artwork now, and he's a board favorite. That, and Bacon seems to take the more appealing pictures. Has Bacon ever given us Amano art when other options were available?
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voltch | Posted 1/24/2010 12:30:03 PM | message detail
remember, when some people thought amano art was a good thing?
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 1/24/2010 12:32:45 PM | message detail

From: voltch | #031
remember, when some people thought amano art was a good thing?


I was never one of those people. Seriously, how is that guy still there, and yet even Hamauzu is gone now?
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Karma Hunter | Posted 1/24/2010 12:34:37 PM | message detail
So to indulge my fanboy tilt in the wake of this match, how much would BB need to get on Mario before people started worrying seriously about Snake > Sephiroth?
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voltch | Posted 1/24/2010 12:34:42 PM | message detail
well does this Big Boss break 25% on Mario?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/74/MG1_Boss.jpg
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EternalxCourage | Posted 1/24/2010 12:34:57 PM | message detail
Who else thinks that Ryu is beating Dante and Leon this year?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/24/2010 12:35:56 PM | message detail

From: Karma Hunter | #033
So to indulge my fanboy tilt in the wake of this match, how much would BB need to get on Mario before people started worrying seriously about Snake > Sephiroth?


51%
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/24/2010 12:37:37 PM | message detail
Chart from the day match:

Time | Mario | Falco | Votes
0:05 | 80.47% | 19.53% | 1280
1:00 | 80.35% | 19.65% | 9911
2:00 | 80.65% | 19.35% | 6537
3:00 | 80.32% | 19.68% | 4801
4:00 | 81.08% | 18.92% | 3732
5:00 | 81.14% | 18.86% | 3123
6:00 | 82.55% | 17.45% | 2819
7:00 | 81.23% | 18.77% | 2610
8:00 | 82.80% | 17.20% | 2919
9:00 | 81.99% | 18.01% | 3503
10:00 | 81.59% | 18.41% | 4395
11:00 | 80.61% | 19.39% | 5147
12:00 | 80.83% | 19.17% | 5447

Boring SFF match is boring.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 1/24/2010 12:39:26 PM | message detail

From: EternalxCourage | #035
Who else thinks that Ryu is beating Dante and Leon this year?


*raises hand*

Dante is very strong, but Ryu has always been so consistently good throughout his contest history. I really can't see the year Street Fighter 4 comes out he would drop. Whoever wins here beats Leon, thats for sure.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/24/2010 12:50:00 PM | message detail
Yeah, but Ryu needs to do more than just "not drop." Dante's looked stronger than him the last few years.
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/24/2010 12:55:16 PM | message detail
This division has got to be the most boring 4 matches of the contest. It's a good thing it only lasts 2 days before we get back to interesting matches again.
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G0EMONIMPACT | Posted 1/24/2010 1:02:09 PM | message detail
Thats why I hope SF4 gives Ryu a boost, and I hope Ken is just LOL-worthy.
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/24/2010 1:03:35 PM | message detail
So to indulge my fanboy tilt in the wake of this match, how much would BB need to get on Mario before people started worrying seriously about Snake > Sephiroth?

I already think Snake > Sephiroth is possible, but I don't think Mario/BB will change my opinion on that one very much one way or the other. It's not clear what the strength gap between Snake and BB is.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/24/2010 1:04:57 PM | message detail
I wonder how a match between Solid Snake and Big Boss would go. I remember they had that contest on IGN where Solid Snake barely beat Naked Snake (closest match of the contest, if I recall correctly), and Solid Snake won the whole thing.
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voltch | Posted 1/24/2010 1:07:46 PM | message detail
I was wondering the same thing leon.

but it's a match pic roulette.
Solid **** vs Big ****
Old Snake vs Peace Walker Boss
Young Snake vs Naked Snake

and any other variations, what are your % predictions for each scenario?
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/24/2010 1:08:37 PM | message detail
Solid **** vs. Naked snake would be awesome
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/24/2010 1:09:08 PM | message detail
I have faith in the voters. Solid Snake wins with all picture combinations (though Naked Snake vs. NES sprite Snake would be close).
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/24/2010 1:09:54 PM | message detail
I have faith in the voters.

Sonic vs. Crono 2006
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EternalxCourage | Posted 1/24/2010 1:10:45 PM | message detail
Keep in mind people could just be underestimating Ken's opponent.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/24/2010 1:11:46 PM | message detail

From: EternalxCourage | #048
Keep in mind people could just be underestimating Ken's opponent.


Yeah, I guess Ryu supporters can just hope Wesker got a big RE5 boost.

Time to start rooting for Chris Redfield > Cloud then
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ZFS | Posted 1/24/2010 1:12:06 PM | message detail
Any pic of Big Boss where has his eyepatch and is from a game where he's featured is good. It doesn't matter how much like Solid Snake he looks, because everyone who has ever followed MGS at this point knows the difference between the two.

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