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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/23/2010 10:49:34 AM | message detail
Pikachu didn't get all of his strength increase from one boost in 2005 that matched with the boosts the other Ninty characters were getting. Or at least, there's nothing to suggest he did.

There's nothing to suggest he did because we didn't see him for 4 years.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 1/23/2010 10:49:48 AM | message detail
The first game of the series is usually the strongest because it introduces the fanbase to the franchise/idea. Look at the first 3D Zelda game, the first 3D FF game, the first 3D Mario game, the first Pokemon game, the first 2D Sonic game, the first SNES Zelda, the first SNES FF, etc.

There's a second SNES Zelda!? Where can I purchase this game of wonder?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/23/2010 10:50:15 AM | message detail
Yeah, I was gonna mention that, but I'm not a big Zelda fan, so I thought there must have been one I was forgetting!
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/23/2010 10:51:07 AM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #353
but I'm not a big Zelda fan


^5
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vcharon | Posted 1/23/2010 10:52:05 AM | message detail
Ezio long-name-factor ftl... yeah, too bad I picked Simon for the upset there. So many good picks so far too.
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/23/2010 10:53:17 AM | message detail
Not to mention the difference between the rat in 2003 and 2007-present coincides nicely with the difference between Nintendo in 2003 and Nintendo in 2007-present.

Really?

Pikachu barely beat Parappa, got 20% on Cloud, and 33% on Fox back in 2002-2003. GS got 42% on Xenogears.

In 2007, Pikachu beat Leon and Dante and put 44% on Luigi. In 2008 Pikachu put 46% on Crono and 37% on Samus. In 2009 RBY was arguably our #3 game and GS put 47% on Metal Gear Solid.

This matches up with the difference ordinary Nintendo characters had between 2003 and 2007? Really?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/23/2010 10:53:30 AM | message detail
I never understood why anyone would pick Simon to win that match. Do we not remember what he looked like in 2007? Dude got doubled by Sam Fisher and Raiden!
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/23/2010 10:54:07 AM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #357
I never understood why anyone would pick Simon to win that match. Do we not remember what he looked like in 2007? Dude got doubled by Sam Fisher and Raiden!


And I'd easily expect Ezio to beat them out... it could be a 70%+ win for Ezio there
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ZFS | Posted 1/23/2010 10:54:34 AM | message detail
Not even close.

You're right -- the amount of people who have played AC2 compared to AC1 isn't close!

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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/23/2010 10:55:57 AM | message detail
Assassin's Creed II is like 1 million in sales behind AC1. By the time Ezio's Round 2 match comes up, it will probably have surpassed the original.

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RPGuy96 | Posted 1/23/2010 10:55:58 AM | message detail
The boost, not the magnitude. You seem to think that Pokemon boosted in, I don't know, 2006 and that was completely separate from the fact that all of Nintendo boosted since 2003/4.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/23/2010 10:56:37 AM | message detail
I should really play the first Assassin's Creed. How much does it sell for these days? I just didn't want to spend $60 on a game I wasn't sure I'd like.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/23/2010 10:56:54 AM | message detail
Man, skip AC1. It sucks.

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ZenOfThunder | Posted 1/23/2010 10:56:56 AM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #362
I should really play the first Assassin's Creed. How much does it sell for these days? I just didn't want to spend $60 on a game I wasn't sure I'd like.


It's probably cheap because ACII just came out.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/23/2010 10:57:10 AM | message detail
But I don't want to spend $60 on AC2 either!
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/23/2010 10:57:26 AM | message detail
Then rent it!

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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/23/2010 10:58:00 AM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #346
Heck, there's no way DMC1 beats DMC3, which is more relevant to our AC discussion.


Whoa now, I don't know about that at all. The first one sold a lot more, was fresh and new (overshadowed by the mega blockbusters of late 2001, but I think many gamers respect what the original DMC brought to the table nowadays), and was very well received. The third has more hardcore fans, but I doubt it wins in a poll. Not unlike DKC and DKC2, actually.
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/23/2010 10:58:10 AM | message detail
I think the reasons behind Pokemon's boost were different, or there were more. I seriously doubt it all happened in one year, but I guess there's no way to prove that unless you want to take the Series Contest Metroid/Pokemon match to mean something.
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Lightning Strikes | Posted 1/23/2010 10:58:16 AM | message detail
There's also the fact that Altair is for the most part an unlikeable douche while Ezio is actually likeable. While I do expect Altair to be stronger, Ezio is far more liked within the fanbase from what I've seen.

Of course this is Simon Belmont, so it'll be no contest regardless.
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/23/2010 10:58:24 AM | message detail
AC1 is like 20 bucks at gamestop. cheaper used. Its worth a buy, imo.
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ExquisiteSamurai | Posted 1/23/2010 10:58:28 AM | message detail
Man, skip AC1. It sucks
THIS!

Then rent it!
THIS! Like I did.

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XxSoulxX | Posted 1/23/2010 10:58:53 AM | message detail
But I don't want to spend $60 on AC2 either!

AC2 is worth it. There's not much wrong with that game really.
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vcharon | Posted 1/23/2010 10:59:17 AM | message detail
Simon upset of the ever. You'll see.

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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/23/2010 11:00:10 AM | message detail
Time to use Wikipedia for my arguments aw yeah

On April 16, 2009, Ubisoft revealed that the game [Assassin's Creed] has sold 8 million copies to date.

As of January 2010, Assassin's Creed II has sold over 6 million copies.


So yeah. Sales difference between the two games is negligible on a site like GameFAQs. And AC2 is infinitely better well-received. I mean, AC1 didn't even make the GotY polls here, while AC2 is a candidate for overall GotY.

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ExquisiteSamurai | Posted 1/23/2010 11:00:33 AM | message detail
AC2 is worth it. There's not much wrong with that game really.

Although they did fix a lot of things from AC 2, it was kind of a chore for me to beat the freaking game and don't even get me started on the final boss.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/23/2010 11:00:34 AM | message detail
I'm saving my money for AAI and FFXIII though!

but I guess there's no way to prove that unless you want to take the Series Contest Metroid/Pokemon match to mean something.

...Why wouldn't we? It wasn't an SFF blowout.
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ExquisiteSamurai | Posted 1/23/2010 11:01:16 AM | message detail
I'm saving my money for AAI and FFXIII though!

Wise decision!

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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/23/2010 11:02:01 AM | message detail
Actually, I could probably just buy FFXIII with whatever birthday money I get since it comes out 5 days after my b-day, but still!
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/23/2010 11:03:19 AM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #378
Actually, I could probably just buy FFXIII with whatever birthday money I get since it comes out 5 days after my b-day, but still!


Could you stand being the only one on the board not playing it for 5 days, though?
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/23/2010 11:03:30 AM | message detail
...Why wouldn't we? It wasn't an SFF blowout.

All the better then. That match shows a nice middle point for Pokemon's rise- it would have gotten killed by Metroid back in 2003 and would beat it easily now.

But the reason it's hard to take it as face value is there's no guarantee it would have gotten killed by Metroid in 2003 or would kill it now. Series =/= Games, basically. I think it's a nice illustrative match, but there are sure to be objections if I use it as an argument.
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Japago | Posted 1/23/2010 11:04:35 AM | message detail
I think this is more MGS deboosting than anything. In 07, Liquid wasn't great. He beat Alucard by 3, then completely folded the next round. I think Sephiroth > Snake is pretty safe.

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ZFS | Posted 1/23/2010 11:05:05 AM | message detail
Assassin's Creed II is like 1 million in sales behind AC1. By the time Ezio's Round 2 match comes up, it will probably have surpassed the original.

It's about a million off, but it won't catch up to AC1 by the time this contest finishes. Games like Assassin's Creed are very, very frontloaded. It'll be a slow trickle to get that other million (it's 3.45 million to 2.37 million as it stands now).

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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/23/2010 11:06:08 AM | message detail
it would have gotten killed by Metroid back in 2003 and would beat it easily now.

I was about to say something, but you covered it with the Series =/= Games argument, so we're good.
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ExquisiteSamurai | Posted 1/23/2010 11:06:41 AM | message detail
I don't think I can ever picture myself doing more than a single playthrough of AC1 or 2.. Seems like a one and done deal to me.. Leonhart, you should definitely just rent the game instead and considering you didn't even play the first one, a lot of questions from the first game are answered in the second one so you'll be a little lost on what's going on.

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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/23/2010 11:07:16 AM | message detail
I can summarize the plot of AC1 in about three sentences.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/23/2010 11:07:57 AM | message detail
But I heard there's an epic plot twist at the end!
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/23/2010 11:08:27 AM | message detail
If explaining nothing is a plot twist, than yes!

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ZFS | Posted 1/23/2010 11:08:38 AM | message detail
An epic cliffhanger, maybe.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/23/2010 11:08:59 AM | message detail
Cliffhanger, plot twist, same diff.
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ZFS | Posted 1/23/2010 11:10:56 AM | message detail
AC1's worth a playthrough, though. It's not a great game, but it's not terrible either. Rent or buying it for cheap wouldn't be bad deal at all.

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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 1/23/2010 11:31:05 AM | message detail
Man oh man, Liquid sucks... I wouldn't be too surprised if Altair breaks 60% by the time this is over.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/23/2010 11:31:47 AM | message detail
Actually, I need to get back to playing the DMC series sooner or later. I quit early on in DMC1 and haven't played it in over a year, probably.
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DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 1/23/2010 11:39:55 AM | message detail
This is pathetic. I should have called this happening since anytime I have a CHANCE to get on the leaderboard (I probably would have been top 200 after today) I lose a match.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/23/2010 11:55:07 AM | message detail
I think there was a contest a few years back where I missed one first round match in like four straight divisions. Based on that unwelcome sense of deja vu, I feel compelled to rank the next division in terms of upset potential:

Zack vs. Yuna
Mega Man vs. Cid
Zidane vs. Claptrap
Master Chief vs. Spy
Ike vs. Prinny
Big Boss vs. Edgeworth
Ryu H. vs. Crash
Mari vs. Falco

Everything below Zidane is hanging out at that 0% level, so if anything goes down, it'll probably involve Square.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/23/2010 11:55:29 AM | message detail
just wait till the ADCV
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/23/2010 11:56:47 AM | message detail

From: DaruniaTheGoron | #393
This is pathetic. I should have called this happening since anytime I have a CHANCE to get on the leaderboard (I probably would have been top 200 after today) I lose a match.


Casuals are going to kill us on this one, too. Everyone will have to work their way back up.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/23/2010 11:57:36 AM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #392
Actually, I need to get back to playing the DMC series sooner or later. I quit early on in DMC1 and haven't played it in over a year, probably.


DMC3 is pretty much the best thing ever.

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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/23/2010 11:58:23 AM | message detail
Master Chief vs. Spy

I wouldn't be terribly surprised if MC dropped that, honestly.

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red sox 777 | Posted 1/23/2010 11:59:11 AM | message detail
Casuals are going to kill us on this one, too. Everyone will have to work their way back up

With 127 matches, everyone here will probably end up in the top 1st percentile. Everyone who took Link to win, assuming he wins, anyway.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 1/23/2010 12:00:53 PM | message detail
Everyone who took Link to win

Suckers.
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