GameFAQs Contests

Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 796

ZFS | Posted 1/23/2010 10:25:51 AM | message detail
Being a Western character has nothing to do with oh Albion

---
wheresoever you go, go with all your heart
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/23/2010 10:26:31 AM | message detail
Alucard being stronger than expected and Luigi (2008 and later) being weaker than we expected makes it make a lot more sense. It's not like Luigi has any matches after 2007 saying he's still at his old levels, and we've seen Bowser and Yoshi tank.

That wasn't Alucard being stronger than expected. That was Magus being weaker than expected. I wouldn't be surprised if Magus did lose to Ness at this point.

And it's not like Luigi had a lot of opportunities to prove he was at his 2007 levels last year. Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if Liquid overperformed in round 1 last year due to the OFPUF (Obvious First Place Underperformance Factor), which was accelerated by the fact that the other two characters had no chance to win and Sho did really poorly. We saw Falco do it last year, and we've been Nightmare do it twice.

I'm starting to think Liquid's first round match was just an anomaly, but the fact that he got two rounds of LFF after that helped him cover it.
---
"Spoil it for me. I'm never going to play that game so I want to know if he's going to be another Auron or another Sin." - Soul about Jecht vs. PW
KamikazePotato | Posted 1/23/2010 10:27:25 AM | message detail
Or Liquid just fluked last year while Altair boosted.

---
KrahenProphet lived up to his name.
params7 | Posted 1/23/2010 10:27:31 AM | message detail
Altair is 2-3 years old. AC2 boost only helped him because Ezio looks so much like him.

From: KamikazePotato | #298
Ezio > Zelda?


I would think so lol
---
King Of The World
Demon's Souls = THE game of the year 2009
RPGuy96 | Posted 1/23/2010 10:27:33 AM | message detail
I suppose we've forgotten about Luigi getting 56% on the rat?
---
Mustache...and Green...
http://backloggery.com/rpguy96
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/23/2010 10:28:58 AM | message detail
Theres no reason to think that Altair is stronger than Ezio, and this match makes Altair look at least same as Luigi from last year... and Luigi = Zelda, right? So Ezio/Zelda should be a good one. Probably my most anticipated match of r2 now.
---
http://i48.tinypic.com/24ytvz8.png
Albion Hero is the Cream of Loli Fanboyism
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/23/2010 10:29:10 AM | message detail
...And now that I think about it, I can't believe I didn't consider OFPUF for Liquid last year. I should've known something was wrong when Liquid seemingly got a big MGS4 boost and Ocelot got nothing.
---
"But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside."
"I am lightning...the rain transformed."
red sox 777 | Posted 1/23/2010 10:29:44 AM | message detail
That wasn't Alucard being stronger than expected. That was Magus being weaker than expected. I wouldn't be surprised if Magus did lose to Ness at this point.

We don't know that, and won't until Alucard faces Link. It's most likely a combination of the two.
---
6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....
TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 1/23/2010 10:29:54 AM | message detail
Liquid technically got beat TWICE this year :/
---
holy crap, you used an apostrophe to make a word plural at least 3 times in that post. that's like cryptonite to me if I was batman - Bako Ikporamee
XxSoulxX | Posted 1/23/2010 10:30:38 AM | message detail
I'm starting to think Liquid's first round match was just an anomaly, but the fact that he got two rounds of LFF after that helped him cover it.

Bingo.
---
"Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever
Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/23/2010 10:30:45 AM | message detail
What reason does Alucard have to be getting stronger now when he's been getting weaker for the last 3-4 years?
---
"But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside."
"I am lightning...the rain transformed."
red sox 777 | Posted 1/23/2010 10:31:50 AM | message detail
I suppose we've forgotten about Luigi getting 56% on the rat?

That was 2007 (pre-Deboost), and also a match in which Pikachu took last place.
---
6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....
XxSoulxX | Posted 1/23/2010 10:32:17 AM | message detail
Theres no reason to think that Altair is stronger than Ezio, and this match makes Altair look at least same as Luigi from last year... and Luigi = Zelda, right? So Ezio/Zelda should be a good one. Probably my most anticipated match of r2 now.

Ignoring the second part of this statement because it makes no sense, Altair is stronger than Ezio, easily. Altair is the face of the franchise.
---
Good Times,
Great Memories
KamikazePotato | Posted 1/23/2010 10:32:42 AM | message detail
Ezio>Altair.

---
KrahenProphet lived up to his name.
KanzarisKelshen | Posted 1/23/2010 10:32:59 AM | message detail

From: XxSoulxX | Posted: 1/23/2010 1:32:17 PM | #313
Theres no reason to think that Altair is stronger than Ezio, and this match makes Altair look at least same as Luigi from last year... and Luigi = Zelda, right? So Ezio/Zelda should be a good one. Probably my most anticipated match of r2 now.

Ignoring the second part of this statement because it makes no sense, Altair is stronger than Ezio, easily. Altair is the face of the franchise.


Both of them are. I'd guess they're just a couple points apart IMO.
---
Placeholder anti-capslock sig.
ffmasterjose | Posted 1/23/2010 10:33:33 AM | message detail
Augh Liquid
---
13/15 points - The Great GameFAQs Character Battle VIII
NP: Vivi > Donkey Kong | Liquid Snake > Altair
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/23/2010 10:34:57 AM | message detail
That was 2007 (pre-Deboost), and also a match in which Pikachu took last place.

And Pikachu didn't deboost?

red sox, I just think you're trying too hard to prove a point here. I don't know why you're so determined to prove Luigi deboosted.
---
"So cold. I am always by your side."
"There ain't no gettin' off of this train we on!"
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/23/2010 10:35:24 AM | message detail
Ezios game reviewed better, selling faster then the first, he has a PSP, DS, and Iphone game as well... and he's been confirmed for AC3 as the main character. I see no reason to expect Altair to be stronger.
---
http://i48.tinypic.com/24ytvz8.png
Albion Hero is the Cream of Loli Fanboyism
KamikazePotato | Posted 1/23/2010 10:35:48 AM | message detail
red sox throws around the term 'Deboost' more than the rest of the Stats Topic combined.

---
KrahenProphet lived up to his name.
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/23/2010 10:36:24 AM | message detail
Why would Ezio be stronger than Altair? Altair was the star of the first game, the one that sold more and had more hype (it at least seemed more hype to me since it was something new and fresh).

Ezio looks like Altair, not the other way around.
---
Yoblazer: http://i33.tinypic.com/ml36gl_th.gif
Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world!
red sox 777 | Posted 1/23/2010 10:37:11 AM | message detail
What reason does Alucard have to be getting stronger now when he's been getting weaker for the last 3-4 years?

He fell from 2002 to 2006. We don't have evidence that he's continued to fall since then- indeed, he did quite well in 2008, getting 36% on Crono possibly after LPF, and doing well against a Pikachu that went on to kill L-Block and get 37% on Samus and 42% on Crono/Vincent. You can't trust the L-Block match for obvious reasons, but that round 4 match of Pikachu's really really impressed me. He went up against 2 Noble Niners and the assumed #10 and stood up to both SFF and LPF.

And it's not really that Alucard has to have boosted- he could have exceeded our expectations merely by not falling.
---
6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/23/2010 10:37:11 AM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #320
Why would Ezio be stronger than Altair? Altair was the star of the first game, the one that sold more and had more hype (it at least seemed more hype to me since it was something new and fresh).

Ezio looks like Altair, not the other way around.


I'm just taking the word of people who've actually played the game, and they all seem to think Ezio's gonna be stronger.
---
"Stay with me until the end. Please."
"Not until the end. Always."
KamikazePotato | Posted 1/23/2010 10:37:47 AM | message detail
No one who has played both games would take Altair over Ezio in a matchup.

---
KrahenProphet lived up to his name.
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/23/2010 10:37:51 AM | message detail
Also, the fact that Ezio looks like Altair, not the other way around, can only help him, quite frankly.
---
"I can set you free, mate."
"My freedom was forfeit long ago!"
RPGuy96 | Posted 1/23/2010 10:37:58 AM | message detail
red sox throws around the term 'Deboost' more than the rest of the Stats Topic combined.

And never to CT characters, to whom it actually applies to.
---
Mustache...and Green...
http://backloggery.com/rpguy96
ZFS | Posted 1/23/2010 10:38:24 AM | message detail
Altair will almost certainly be the stronger character, but Ezio shouldn't be significantly weaker just because they look the exact same.

---
wheresoever you go, go with all your heart
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/23/2010 10:39:19 AM | message detail
36% on Crono isn't what it used to be, but that's not bad. That round 2 match against Pikachu means nothing though, quite frankly. I picked Alucard to beat Magus and everything, but Magus looked bad because he's weaker than we expected, not the other way around.
---
"But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside."
"I am lightning...the rain transformed."
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/23/2010 10:39:39 AM | message detail
And even if Altair turns out stronger this year, Ezio has more growth for potential since it seems like they're sticking with him as the character the franchise is gonna build around.
---
http://i48.tinypic.com/24ytvz8.png
Albion Hero is the Cream of Loli Fanboyism
XxSoulxX | Posted 1/23/2010 10:39:40 AM | message detail
Ezios game reviewed better,

Doesn't matter.

selling faster then the first,

Doesn't matter, first still has a hell of a lot more sales.

he has a PSP,

lol

DS, and Iphone game as well...

lol

and he's been confirmed for AC3 as the main character.

Doesn't matter.

I see no reason to expect Altair to be stronger.

Altair was the main character when the franchise first hit. It became a major success, with over 7 million sales. This is like comparing RBY and G/S. GS is technically the better game and was much more well received, but RBY is what introduced us to that franchise and is stronger because of that.
---
"Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever
Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename
red sox 777 | Posted 1/23/2010 10:40:23 AM | message detail
And Pikachu didn't deboost?

Pokemon's always been immune to the general Nintendo boost/deboosts. The original Boost also impacted Mario characters more than anyone.
---
6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/23/2010 10:40:49 AM | message detail
Not really seeing the correlation between RBY and G/S with Assassin's Creed here. Those games aren't old enough to have "nostalgia factor" going for them.
---
"So cold. I am always by your side."
"There ain't no gettin' off of this train we on!"
XxSoulxX | Posted 1/23/2010 10:41:11 AM | message detail
Pokemon's always been immune to the general Nintendo boost/deboosts.

Explain 2002/2003 Pikachu and modern day Pikachu then.
---
Good Times,
Great Memories
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/23/2010 10:41:18 AM | message detail
Assassins Creed 2 is only like a million behind the first, anyway. It'll likely outsell it.
---
http://i48.tinypic.com/24ytvz8.png
Albion Hero is the Cream of Loli Fanboyism
KamikazePotato | Posted 1/23/2010 10:41:36 AM | message detail
Ezios game reviewed better,

Doesn't matter.


What planet do you live on

---
KrahenProphet lived up to his name.
TheCodeisBosco | Posted 1/23/2010 10:41:39 AM | message detail
Well folks, it's been fun, but... my bracket is officially fried now.

---
Fawful > GlaDOS: Not a triumph.
CURRENTLY PLAYING: Electroplankton (DS), Pokemon Gold (GBC)
KamikazePotato | Posted 1/23/2010 10:42:19 AM | message detail
And that comparisan sucks. AC was considered heavily disappointing by many. RBY was a phenomenon.

---
KrahenProphet lived up to his name.
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/23/2010 10:42:31 AM | message detail
Since when is Boost capitalized? Was it prophesied in the Bible or something?
---
Yoblazer: http://i32.tinypic.com/zlf1w7.gif
Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world!
Fayt_Esteed | Posted 1/23/2010 10:42:52 AM | message detail
For someone who likes to throw the "Deboost" term around, red sox... I guess you don't realize the very subject of your fanboyism is where that term applies the most.
---
"Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/23/2010 10:43:28 AM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #330
And Pikachu didn't deboost?

Pokemon's always been immune to the general Nintendo boost/deboosts. The original Boost also impacted Mario characters more than anyone.


The only character we can really say looked bad for sure last year was Yoshi. That's it, and even then I'm not sure he dropped that much (Squall being an uber beastly character all the way!). Luigi/Bowser was already a potential tossup based on the 2006 stats anyway. Bowser looked fine in round 1, and if you think Liquid's round 1 was OFPUF, Luigi looks fine. Mario had LFF to deal with in every single match, which tells us nothing. The fact that Luigi is apparently on top of the Yoshi/Luigi/Bowser trio after spending 3-4 years on the bottom of it tells me that, if they have dropped, he's dropped the least.

And we have no way of knowing if Pokemon deboosted or not. We didn't see a single one in 2005 and only Nidoran F in 2006, Nintendo's two best years. Who knows what Pikachu would've done if he was in SC2K5 or SC2K6?
---
"Spoil it for me. I'm never going to play that game so I want to know if he's going to be another Auron or another Sin." - Soul about Jecht vs. PW
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/23/2010 10:44:34 AM | message detail
So what is the consensus on Altair now? Mid Card? High Mid Card?
---
http://i48.tinypic.com/24ytvz8.png
Albion Hero is the Cream of Loli Fanboyism
XxSoulxX | Posted 1/23/2010 10:45:04 AM | message detail
Not really seeing the correlation between RBY and G/S with Assassin's Creed here. Those games aren't old enough to have "nostalgia factor" going for them.

Nostalgia has nothing to do with it. Even when GS was first released RBY would have killed it.

The first game of the series is usually the strongest because it introduces the fanbase to the franchise/idea. Look at the first 3D Zelda game, the first 3D FF game, the first 3D Mario game, the first Pokemon game, the first 2D Sonic game, the first SNES Zelda, the first SNES FF, etc.

I know games =/= characters, but that theory still stands because Ezio pretty much is Altair to the unaware casuals.
---
"Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever
Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename
red sox 777 | Posted 1/23/2010 10:45:15 AM | message detail
I thought we'd always capitalized the Nintendo Boost since it was coined back in 2005. It refers to a specific boost in 2005 and not to all boosts in general.
---
6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/23/2010 10:45:18 AM | message detail
Waiting until the match with Vivi, but I'm saying midcard for now. If he wins or loses by a small margin, he's middle of the pack. If he can whip Vivi, then you can consider him in the high midcard range.
---
"I can set you free, mate."
"My freedom was forfeit long ago!"
XxSoulxX | Posted 1/23/2010 10:46:45 AM | message detail
And yeah, those games have nostalgia as well, but compare them to the next game in the series' when the new game was fresh. Do you really think the newer games would beat them?
---
Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever
Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename
KamikazePotato | Posted 1/23/2010 10:47:07 AM | message detail
AC2 destroys AC1 in popularity.

---
KrahenProphet lived up to his name.
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/23/2010 10:47:21 AM | message detail
The first game of the series is usually the strongest because it introduces the fanbase to the franchise/idea. Look at the first 3D Zelda game, the first 3D FF game, the first 3D Mario game, the first Pokemon game, the first 2D Sonic game, the first SNES Zelda, the first SNES FF, etc.

The first Final Fantasy, the first Mario game, the first 2-D Sonic game (which won't be the strongest one, regardless of what the stats last year say) all differ. Heck, there's no way DMC1 beats DMC3, which is more relevant to our AC discussion.

And the first SNES FF loses big time to FFVI, so I'm not sure what you mean with that one.
---
"Hold on a minute! That testimony stinks!"
"Witness! You can't just say 'Hello' and expect us to get anywhere! I want you to testify!"
RPGuy96 | Posted 1/23/2010 10:47:55 AM | message detail
And we have no way of knowing if Pokemon deboosted or not. We didn't see a single one in 2005 and only Nidoran F in 2006, Nintendo's two best years. Who knows what Pikachu would've done if he was in SC2K5 or SC2K6?

Not to mention the difference between the rat in 2003 and 2007-present coincides nicely with the difference between Nintendo in 2003 and Nintendo in 2007-present.
---
Mustache...and Green...
http://backloggery.com/rpguy96
red sox 777 | Posted 1/23/2010 10:48:40 AM | message detail
Explain 2002/2003 Pikachu and modern day Pikachu then.

Pikachu didn't get all of his strength increase from one boost in 2005 that matched with the boosts the other Ninty characters were getting. Or at least, there's nothing to suggest he did.
---
6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....
ExquisiteSamurai | Posted 1/23/2010 10:48:47 AM | message detail
I have beaten both AC1 and 2 and figured Ezio as a clone of Altair.. Maybe I am just the very minority on this though. (Although 2 > 1 by far)

---
Awaiting Final Fantasy XIII
KamikazePotato | Posted 1/23/2010 10:49:24 AM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/xbox360/home/930278.html
http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/xbox360/home/956858.html

http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/ps3/home/930022.html
http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/ps3/home/956856.html

Not even close.

---
KrahenProphet lived up to his name.