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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 796
Chaotic Mind | Posted 1/23/2010 9:32:24 AM | message detail |
Cecil/Knux
didn't surprise me at all. This match doesn't really either, Liquid is
the most inconsistent SOB in these things. I hate that i let his 2k8
performance lead me to pick him when i knew he couldn't be trusted. --- "The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it." - George Bernard Shaw |
Not_Wylvane | Posted 1/23/2010 9:33:22 AM | message detail |
Feeling better and better about my Kratos > Sora upset! --- Not Wylvane |
paraboxx | Posted 1/23/2010 9:33:53 AM | message detail |
At last, one of the tough picks goes my way, but not the board's. Go Altair! I'd comment on all the projections/implications/etc being talked about, but it's Saturday and I just woke up. You guys are making my head hurt, heh. But yeah, count me in with everyone else shocked that DK had 60% backing. It did not take a lot of research to come up with a Vivi > DK pick for that one. They've already had a freaking match. Wasn't a lot of evidence that things would change much, either. |
Seginustemple | Posted 1/23/2010 9:34:04 AM | message detail |
...okay,
we the stats-geezers are probably going to get rocked this year. There
are a lot of things not making sense just two divisions in and --
though we don't know exactly when or in what way yet -- there's likely
been a site-shift sometime during our four-way tenure and we
missed/ignored it. Our expectations are hardly standing up in most of
these matches thus far. You said it man, though I'd say L-block winning was the obvious crack of the seismic shift that this site's taste underwent. The average age of the user is different, we've had a new console generation since the 4-ways, it's all just bad news bears. --- http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n237/Danielyoon10/B8sigbet-2.jpg tell me what to put here in my sig! |
red sox 777 | Posted 1/23/2010 9:34:07 AM | message detail |
This
match doesn't have *anything* to do with Zack. The Altair Zack faced
got 19% on Link. This is very clearly a different Altair. He got last place in a 4-way in that match. Better to base him off of his performance on Duke in round 2 and Duke's performance on Link in round 3. If it doesn't have anything to do with Zack, it does have to do with people not understanding just how strong Link is (i.e. how much 30% on him is really worth). --- 6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno 'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared.... |
vcharon | Posted 1/23/2010 9:34:44 AM | message detail |
Oh, there is no ASV today... Wtf Liquid --- :> |
HaRRicH | Posted 1/23/2010 9:34:54 AM | message detail |
Sonic Team is a clue we mostly ignored from the four-way contests though, and if it's been like this
since 2007 that's a pretty savage shift for the crew from 2006 to 2007.
Between that and seeing that most older games that aren't Square or
especially Nintendo were nearly forgotten between BGE and BGE2 (don't
know if they're related or not), that's a sign of the site shifting
between 2006 and 2007...which we overlooked ever since then in many
ways thanks to four-ways. It would mak sense though, since we got the
PS3 and Wii at the very end of 2006's contest; they would probably
bring in new gamers to the site. --- T E A M C H O C O L A T E http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7355/64590879.png |
RPGuy96 | Posted 1/23/2010 9:37:34 AM | message detail |
He
got last place in a 4-way in that match. Better to base him off of his
performance on Duke in round 2 and Duke's performance on Link in round
3. If it doesn't have anything to do with Zack, it does have to do with
people not understanding just how strong Link is (i.e. how much 30% on
him is really worth). That puts Altair all the way up to 21% on Link and still pretty clearly has nothing to do with today's match. --- Mustache...and Green... http://backloggery.com/rpguy96 |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/23/2010 9:38:02 AM | message detail |
Guys I think we have a new noble nine breaker contender... ! --- http://i48.tinypic.com/24ytvz8.png Albion Hero is the Cream of Loli Fanboyism |
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/23/2010 9:38:23 AM | message detail |
So is this Liquid proving last year was a fluke, Altair increasing, making Luigi look really bad, or what? --- "Stay with me until the end. Please." "Not until the end. Always." |
Not_Wylvane | Posted 1/23/2010 9:39:19 AM | message detail |
From: MyWorldIsCrono | #209 Yeah, and his name is Guybrush Threepwood! Guybrush > Vincent believe. --- Not Wylvane |
Biolizard28 | Posted 1/23/2010 9:39:35 AM | message detail |
Methinks Altair's run last year was more impressive than we thought. But I'd say a Liquid fluke is an acceptable alternative. --- It may be insulting, but it's true! Now this is entertainment! |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/23/2010 9:39:42 AM | message detail |
So... Rank these 3: Mewtwo Rikku Liquid Snake --- http://i48.tinypic.com/24ytvz8.png Albion Hero is the Cream of Loli Fanboyism |
XxSoulxX | Posted 1/23/2010 9:39:58 AM | message detail |
liquid overperformed last year and altair getting a boost. --- "Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename |
Biolizard28 | Posted 1/23/2010 9:40:34 AM | message detail |
Albion, the point of rankings is to NOT put them in the right order when you ask. --- It may be insulting, but it's true! Now this is entertainment! |
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/23/2010 9:41:02 AM | message detail |
From: Biolizard28 | #215 He didn't. Rikku's the strongest of those three. --- "So cold. I am always by your side." "There ain't no gettin' off of this train we on!" |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/23/2010 9:41:12 AM | message detail |
From: Biolizard28 | #215 Honestly I'd put Liquid over Rikku >_> --- http://i48.tinypic.com/24ytvz8.png Albion Hero is the Cream of Loli Fanboyism |
love0vs0hate | Posted 1/23/2010 9:41:12 AM | message detail |
The Boss> Nathan Drake Altair>Liquid Is The Boss>Liquid? --- Vote for CATS!!! PSN- BeaverMoose |
red sox 777 | Posted 1/23/2010 9:41:21 AM | message detail |
That puts Altair all the way up to 21% on Link and still pretty clearly has nothing to do with today's match. That's actually quite a big difference- Altair through Duke is projected to 57-43 Altair through Link. That's the difference between Altair and Liquid right now. And it has a lot to do with this match, because 22% on Link and 45% on Luigi aren't that far apart. It was within range of a large boost, and Altair got one. --- 6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno 'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared.... |
Kotetsu534 | Posted 1/23/2010 9:41:26 AM | message detail |
Anyone up for Altair > Kirby? Hehe. --- Currently Playing: Final Fantasy Tactics, Ocarina of Time, Final Fantasy IX |
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/23/2010 9:41:30 AM | message detail |
From: love0vs0hate | #218 No, Altair would kill Drake. --- "Stay with me until the end. Please." "Not until the end. Always." |
Biolizard28 | Posted 1/23/2010 9:41:45 AM | message detail |
From: LeonhartFour | #216 Well, that's just, like, your opinion man. --- It may be insulting, but it's true! Now this is entertainment! |
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/23/2010 9:42:15 AM | message detail |
because 22% on Link and 45% on Luigi aren't that far apart How do we even know that? --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
-LusterSoldier- | Posted 1/23/2010 9:43:01 AM | message detail |
Liquid
having to rely on a vote-in poll to make it in was the first sign to me
that seemed to suggest Liquid wasn't going to be as strong as last
year. Because if Liquid was still going to be as strong as last year,
then he should have had no problem making into the bracket through
normal means. So I ended up picking Altair for this reason. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as KrahenProphet, Guru Champ! |
Chaotic Mind | Posted 1/23/2010 9:43:06 AM | message detail |
Rikku>=Mewtwo>Liquid Snake --- "The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it." - George Bernard Shaw |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/23/2010 9:43:07 AM | message detail |
but seriously, if altair somehow beats kirby, and sonic gets through bacondorf... I believe Altair will have the bandwagon to take down Sonic for the lulz --- http://i48.tinypic.com/24ytvz8.png Albion Hero is the Cream of Loli Fanboyism |
RPGuy96 | Posted 1/23/2010 9:43:41 AM | message detail |
because 22% on Link and 45% on Luigi aren't that far apart *snicker* --- Mustache...and Green... http://backloggery.com/rpguy96 |
red sox 777 | Posted 1/23/2010 9:43:51 AM | message detail |
How do we even know that? If you didn't think that before this match, you'd do well to consider it now. --- 6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno 'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared.... |
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/23/2010 9:43:53 AM | message detail |
Altair won't get a bandwagon though. I wouldn't be surprised if he's the bracket favorite to get that far. --- "The great GF...Bahamut." "...GF? I...? Using my powers...It is you humans...I fear..." |
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/23/2010 9:44:40 AM | message detail |
From: red sox 777 | #228 But we don't even know if this is Liquid being Liquid, if Altair boosted, if what both did last year was legit and makes Luigi look bad, or what. There is nothing to work with, especially since all Luigi's had so far is an SFF beatdown of Meta Knight. --- "Spoil it for me. I'm never going to play that game so I want to know if he's going to be another Auron or another Sin." - Soul about Jecht vs. PW |
Chaotic Mind | Posted 1/23/2010 9:44:44 AM | message detail |
From: -LusterSoldier- | #224 That's a damn good point Luster, wish i would've seen that when making my bracket. --- "Flash runs alongside balefire watching marshmallows stop existing" - War |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/23/2010 9:44:55 AM | message detail |
From: LeonhartFour | #229 I doubt Kirby last year was the bracket favorite to get that far, but he got a bandwagon. By round 4, most peoples brackets will be dead anyway. --- http://i48.tinypic.com/24ytvz8.png Albion Hero is the Cream of Loli Fanboyism |
Not_Wylvane | Posted 1/23/2010 9:46:41 AM | message detail |
Altair being the one to take down Sonic would be pretty damn hilarious. --- Not Wylvane |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/23/2010 9:47:00 AM | message detail |
Altair
is about as unlikely to get a bandwagon as Kratos. Established, beloved
characters (and joke entrants) are far more likely. --- Yoblazer: http://i43.tinypic.com/25z1non.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/23/2010 9:47:25 AM | message detail |
I doubt Kirby last year was the bracket favorite to get that far, but he got a bandwagon. That's the point. Kirby got a bandwagon because he wasn't the bracket favorite. I wouldn't be surprised if Altair was. --- "So cold. I am always by your side." "There ain't no gettin' off of this train we on!" |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/23/2010 9:48:00 AM | message detail |
From: Not_Wylvane | #233 yeah, thats my point. I'm sure even this board might give altair the board vote just to see him beat Sonic. --- http://i48.tinypic.com/24ytvz8.png Albion Hero is the Cream of Loli Fanboyism |
red sox 777 | Posted 1/23/2010 9:49:28 AM | message detail |
Of course Altair boosted. How much did he boost? Would he double his former self? Would he beat Zack now? It's not like Luigi being well below 30% on Link is unprecendented or anything. He was right around 25% before the Boost. Vincent was worth about 32% on Link in 2007. Set Vincent = Squall and Luigi = Yoshi and you get Luigi around 27%, which still gives Altair a very large boost (more than 60-40 on his former self). --- 6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno 'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared.... |
Jmast7 | Posted 1/23/2010 9:51:14 AM | message detail |
Excellent Altair! Great for my bracket - too bad I didn't have the stones to change my Oracle pick. :P --- Currently playing: FE8, Zelda: Spirit Tracks Currently Watching: BSG: Season 3, LOST: Season 5 (rewatch) |
XxSoulxX | Posted 1/23/2010 9:51:15 AM | message detail |
It's
not like Luigi being well below 30% on Link is unprecendented or
anything. He was right around 25% before the Boost. Vincent was worth
about 32% on Link in 2007. Set Vincent = Squall and Luigi = Yoshi and
you get Luigi around 27%, which still gives Altair a very large boost
(more than 60-40 on his former self). The problem with this is you're making Liquid equal between last year and this year. --- "Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/23/2010 9:51:15 AM | message detail |
So who's ready for some Claptrap > Zidane --- http://i48.tinypic.com/24ytvz8.png Albion Hero is the Cream of Loli Fanboyism |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/23/2010 9:52:01 AM | message detail |
If
Altair beats Kirby, I'll rally for him against Sonic and buy Assassin's
Creed. As of right now, we're still not sure if he beats Vivi. --- Yoblazer: http://i43.tinypic.com/25z1non.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/23/2010 9:52:05 AM | message detail |
Yeah, relying on Liquid to be any sort of constant is a mistake at this point. ...Too bad I didn't realize my mistake when I filled out my bracket. --- "So cold. I am always by your side." "There ain't no gettin' off of this train we on!" |
HaRRicH | Posted 1/23/2010 9:52:10 AM | message detail |
Claptrap's gonna dance all up on Zidane's monkey-ass. --- T E A M C H O C O L A T E http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7355/64590879.png |
paraboxx | Posted 1/23/2010 9:54:03 AM | message detail |
Liquid
having to rely on a vote-in poll to make it in was the first sign to me
that seemed to suggest Liquid wasn't going to be as strong as last year. Interesting logic. Worked pretty well with Ken, too. Not so much with Rikku, though, unless Kirby's fallen completely off the map and about to lose to Altair. |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/23/2010 9:54:21 AM | message detail |
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3745®ion=ASI Even Asia likes Altair more. --- http://i48.tinypic.com/24ytvz8.png Albion Hero is the Cream of Loli Fanboyism |
red sox 777 | Posted 1/23/2010 9:54:34 AM | message detail |
The problem with this is you're making Liquid equal between last year and this year. I see no reason why he'd be much weaker this year than last year, a little, maybe. Projections are always about figuring out the most likely scenario, i.e. the one that minimizes extremely unlikely events. If you don't find Altair getting a boost this large surprising, then alright. If you do (and I think most of us do, given that most of us took Liquid), then you'd do well to consider if your assumptions about these characters' strengths in 2008 were wrong. --- 6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno 'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared.... |
vcharon | Posted 1/23/2010 9:57:42 AM | message detail |
Altair
is a special case with these "new gen" characters. Drake's game may be
more loved (arguably, not the point) but Altair by far has the most
iconic appearance of any character in recent years. He's not a measure
of anyone else though. Zidane 65%+ against Claptrap. Doesn't even look hokey enough to attract joke voting, being very liberal with that prediction since it's Zidane. --- :> |
XxSoulxX | Posted 1/23/2010 9:57:45 AM | message detail |
I see no reason why he'd be much weaker this year than last year, a little, maybe. Better question would be how he was so much stronger last year than the year before. Liquid Snake was injected with steroids and than some last year. There was no way in hell he would retain that unbelievable strength this year. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
red sox 777 | Posted 1/23/2010 9:58:07 AM | message detail |
And I'm not saying that this match is proof of anything. It's just one more piece of evidence, a pretty strong one to me. --- 6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno 'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared.... |
red sox 777 | Posted 1/23/2010 9:59:57 AM | message detail |
Better
question would be how he was so much stronger last year than the year
before. Liquid Snake was injected with steroids and than some last
year. There was no way in hell he would retain that unbelievable
strength this year. Well, the answer would be MGS4. Also, was Liquid really that bad in 2007? He went even with.....Alucard. Alucard......just 58-42'd Magus. --- 6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno 'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared.... |
