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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 796

Lucid Faia | Posted 1/23/2010 1:07:48 PM | message detail
Add me to Team Altair. 8/8 in this division.

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Janus5000 | Posted 1/23/2010 1:07:50 PM | message detail
Very impressive showing from Altair. I had a feeling he'd win, but not by this much.

His match against Vivi's during the day, too. Altair's getting to round 3 in all likelihood.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 1/23/2010 1:08:24 PM | message detail
Leon didn't say anything hilariously quotable, but he picked Liquid too.

I'm not to brag past that, since anyone who says this wasn't a tossup is a liar. But Liquid dying like this is a surprise. Where was this MGS day vote fail during THE DRAKE match?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/23/2010 1:10:39 PM | message detail
And based on the 2007 stats, Vivi beats Liquid with 55.13% (though I don't know whose stats Ngamer's LOL XSTATS machine uses or how the numbers were arrived at), so yeah.

Based on Liquid 2007, Altair 2010 gets 51.52% on Altair 2008, which isn't a big boost, but it's a little. Now I'm sure a lot of you guys aren't going to take this stuff seriously (I don't entirely believe all of it myself). It's just something to think about more than anything else.
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KanzarisKelshen | Posted 1/23/2010 1:10:48 PM | message detail
There WAS fail, it's just that Drake was too weak to capitalize on it.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/23/2010 1:11:57 PM | message detail
Where was this MGS day vote fail during THE DRAKE match?

It helps when you have a day vote. I told you Drake wasn't going to have one, and lo and behold, he didn't.
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paulg235 | Posted 1/23/2010 1:12:27 PM | message detail
To be fair, I actually had Altair in my bracket at first, but then looked at how well Liquid did last contest and changed the pick to him. I still considered it a tossup match, though.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 1/23/2010 1:13:25 PM | message detail
But I figured THE DRAKE could beat Boss in a close match (which it was) since he's in the same boat as the other casual characters I picked. The guy still had a massive boost, just not quite good enough. I blame Zen, rofl
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 1/23/2010 1:13:43 PM | message detail
...Stupid Liquid and MATEL GAER.

cost me 2 matches, and now I see Ima lose 100 bucks :(
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/23/2010 1:14:20 PM | message detail
Honestly, I thought Liquid would win this one fairly easily. Altair's surprising me with how well he's doing. I'm not trying to make excuses for Altair or anything, but this feels more like a Liquid turd (gross) than Altair impressing, like Alucard/Magus was.

All that said, I'd still lean toward calling Altair the favorite over Vivi next round. Don't see him beating Kirby either way though.
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voltch | Posted 1/23/2010 1:14:22 PM | message detail
This board made me pick Liquid, screw you guys, man i changed to magus and liquid, i can't believe this.
i coulda been perfect and Leon would have been stopped by me for good on that leaderboard.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 1/23/2010 1:14:31 PM | message detail

From: paulg235 | Posted: 1/23/2010 4:12:27 PM | #457
To be fair, I actually had Altair in my bracket at first, but then looked at how well Liquid did last contest and changed the pick to him. I still considered it a tossup match, though.


See I virtually ignored 4ways completely. All you can pull from them are time-of-day trends and eye tests, and even then I would have picked Liquid with an eye test. He was on steroids last year.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/23/2010 1:15:42 PM | message detail
You can keep thinking 4-ways are entirely useless, but my top ten Oracle ranking (...well, until today anyway) says differently.
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Wii_TuRtLe | Posted 1/23/2010 1:16:25 PM | message detail
So the next interesting match will be.... Zack/Yuna. Going to be a boring 3 days.
hellfire104 | Posted 1/23/2010 1:17:06 PM | message detail
eternalXcourage you are a moron.

Sorry but Zack isn't beating Megaman OR MC. Ryu DEFINATELY isn't being Dante. Any many many other picks you made that are ridiculous.
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My Bracket Says: Night: Vivi Day: Altair
red sox 777 | Posted 1/23/2010 1:17:26 PM | message detail
Honestly, I thought Liquid would win this one fairly easily. Altair's surprising me with how well he's doing. I'm not trying to make excuses for Altair or anything, but this feels more like a Liquid turd (gross) than Altair impressing, like Alucard/Magus was.

It's really impossible to know this until we them in action next round. You can't tell just from one match.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/23/2010 1:18:00 PM | message detail
It's really impossible to know this until we them in action next round. You can't tell just from one match.

Then stop talking about Luigi Deboosts!
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paulg235 | Posted 1/23/2010 1:18:05 PM | message detail

From: Wii_TuRtLe | #464
So the next interesting match will be.... Zack/Yuna. Going to be a boring 3 days.


Unless... we get another SUPRISE CLOSE MATCH.

I'm looking at you, Mega Man/Cid!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/23/2010 1:18:31 PM | message detail
Cid having an unexpectedly close match with Mega Man would be epic.
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voltch | Posted 1/23/2010 1:21:16 PM | message detail
but cid/mm being close is already expected by some, we need a bigger surprise.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 1/23/2010 1:22:15 PM | message detail
Zack > MM. Let 'er fly.
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/23/2010 1:22:23 PM | message detail
I'm not saying this is all Liquid doing bad though. If you assume half of this result is from Altair boosting and half is from Liquid/Luigi being overrated, Luigi still looks really bad. Make it 2/3 or 3/4 and Luigi still looks bad. It may not be conclusive, but I don't see how this match doesn't make Luigi look bad.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 1/23/2010 1:23:22 PM | message detail
I think you're the only person that thinks this is the same Liquid that we saw last year against Luigi.
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voltch | Posted 1/23/2010 1:26:00 PM | message detail
I think right now AC2 was a much bigger game than we thought, AC1 was mixed, but the second had a fantastic reception an Altair's got "the look", so he's the Kratos of this generation.
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Gaddswell | Posted 1/23/2010 1:27:09 PM | message detail
Whoa, Altair!

What happened to that boost last year, Liquid?
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/23/2010 1:32:07 PM | message detail
I think you're the only person that thinks this is the same Liquid that we saw last year against Luigi.

He may not be the same, but the gap between Altair's percentage here and what he was expected to get is suggestive nonetheless. You'd need an absolutely huge boost from Altair and/or a huge overperformance or drop by Liquid to explain this otherwise, and there's a very easy explanation that matches up with what we saw from the rest of Nintendo in 2008 that makes this match substantially easier to explain.

It's not like I just started saying Luigi deboosted now; I've been calling Zack > Luigi since round 2 of last year.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 1/23/2010 1:33:34 PM | message detail

From: Gaddswell | Posted: 1/23/2010 4:27:09 PM | #475
Whoa, Altair!

What happened to that boost last year, Liquid?


rofl 4way stats
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LOLContests | Posted 1/23/2010 1:34:38 PM | message detail
rofl 4way stats

What does Liquid boosting have to do with 4 way stats?
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/23/2010 1:36:17 PM | message detail
I gotta agree with Bostonboy here. this match just feels too weird to just blame it all on liquid just dropping hard. And I wouldn't even expect much of a MGS4 boost for him last year...<spoilers>



he's not even in the game outside of an arm as far as I know.



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And with AC2 being a popular new game, and with Altair looking almost identical to Ezio, this could be the Big Boss kinda phenomenon. That both Ezio and Altair will just give eachother strength since they look so close to eachother.. so it won't matter who is in what game, voters will think of them as the same.

Basically, in summary, I'm sayign that this is the AC2s boost all around, that has made Altair a high mid carder.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 1/23/2010 1:39:08 PM | message detail
Sigh. That's about as sensible as saying Zelda is going to crash and burn because she only got 54% on Knuckles, who was terrible this year.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 1/23/2010 1:40:22 PM | message detail
Or, if you want to go the other way, that Vivi is a near elite because Wesker did well.
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/23/2010 1:41:47 PM | message detail
Sigh. That's about as sensible as saying Zelda is going to crash and burn because she only got 54% on Knuckles, who was terrible this year.

Zelda had Mario in that match, so no, it's quite different. Though if you want, yes, Knuckles doing badly is a bad sign for Mario and Zelda- just a pretty weak sign.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 1/23/2010 1:42:08 PM | message detail
So Albino thinks that an Assassin's Creed game that only mentions Altair a few times boosted him, while it's ridiculous that a Metal Gear Solid game that only mentions Liquid a few times boosted him last year?

lol albino
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/23/2010 1:42:46 PM | message detail

From: BlAcK TuRtLe | #483
So Albino thinks that an Assassin's Creed game that only mentions Altair a few times boosted him, while it's ridiculous that a Metal Gear Solid game that only mentions Liquid a few times boosted him last year?

lol albino


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RPGuy96 | Posted 1/23/2010 1:43:42 PM | message detail
And Luigi could well be the victim of OFPF and a similar LFF as Zelda - you seem eager enough to discount any bad performance by last place characters like Altair Rd3 and Liquid in 2007, I don't see why you wouldn't do the same for first place characters when there's just as much evidence supporting it.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 1/23/2010 1:46:00 PM | message detail
Oh hey, I got on the leaderboard before I lost my perfect today just like I wanted.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 1/23/2010 1:47:19 PM | message detail
DK was the bracket favorite against Vivi? What the hell?
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/23/2010 1:47:49 PM | message detail
And Luigi could well be the victim of OFPF and a similar LFF as Zelda - you seem eager enough to discount any bad performance by last place characters like Altair Rd3 and Liquid in 2007, I don't see why you wouldn't do the same for first place characters when there's just as much evidence supporting it.

That's true, I agree with that. I think FPF probably didn't do too in that match for the reason that it usually happens in matches where the margin is much wider. Though I guess SMW/FF1 had a similar margin and a ton of FPF, so it's possible. I would give Luigi a lot more slack here if it weren't for Yoshi and Bowser (and to a lesser extent, a lot of the other Nintendo characters).
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RPGuy96 | Posted 1/23/2010 1:48:42 PM | message detail
It's even more weird when we've seen plenty of Nintendo characters in action - including Luigi- and they've looked pretty good. And yet you are so insistent on this match making Luigi look bad.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 1/23/2010 1:49:36 PM | message detail
Who is Luigi up against in round 2?
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/23/2010 1:49:45 PM | message detail
Ammy I think?
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/23/2010 1:51:25 PM | message detail
I disagree that the Nintendo characters have looked pretty good, and I'm not saying Luigi deboosted worse than normal for a Ninty character or anything. I don't buy that he's going to stay at this 2007 strength while the other Nintendo characters fall.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 1/23/2010 1:51:29 PM | message detail
Luigi's path sucks, he gets Ammy next round and then either Cube or The Boss before getting destroyed by Link.

This bracket would be better if some of the Square in the lower half switched with some of the Nintendo in the upper half, but oh well.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 1/23/2010 1:51:42 PM | message detail
My Oracle there will be around 70%. There's no way Luigi stayed constant while everyone else in Nintendo has looked pretty good.

DK was the bracket favorite against Vivi, when casuals love picking the higher seed and the match had already happened once. I can't get over this.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 1/23/2010 1:52:26 PM | message detail
Casuals don't remember what happened almost 6 years ago.
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KanzarisKelshen | Posted 1/23/2010 1:52:35 PM | message detail
Amaterasu, yes. Then WCC/Boss, then Link.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 1/23/2010 1:53:30 PM | message detail
To be fair, everyone's path sucks when you throw Link in.

spoilers link wins
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 1/23/2010 1:54:10 PM | message detail
What do you mean by that? The fact that Ocelot lost to Jill after MGS4? I think it's pretty much universally agreed that those 2 matches don't make any sense, and to try and base any arguments off of them is moronic. There could have been any number of factors to explain it, Cloud SFFing Jill harder than Ocelot, Kratos SFFing Ocelot harder than Jill, MGS' hardcore fanbase making a bigger difference in the match with less votes (because Cloud was eating up 2/3 of the votes)
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/23/2010 1:54:41 PM | message detail
play shining force 2
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/23/2010 1:54:46 PM | message detail
now
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