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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 794
KamikazePotato | Posted 1/22/2010 6:51:46 AM | message detail |
Uh...I said earlier that Kirby would need 57% against Rikku to beat Sonic. And he got it. This result is fine. --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
vcharon | Posted 1/22/2010 6:52:44 AM | message detail |
Lol whos making all the excuses now vcharon? hilarious, what a hypocrite. Excuses? It's not an excuse; it's a fact (LOL). Do you even know the definition of the term "hypocrite"? --- :> |
Sonic_Factor | Posted 1/22/2010 6:53:05 AM | message detail |
Yea, Rikku =Tifa. Oh wait. --- Nominate Red XIII for the Character Battle VII! He's the Lion with a fire tail from Final Fantasy VII. |
Sonic_Factor | Posted 1/22/2010 6:54:07 AM | message detail |
you
called me out for the same thing, yet youre doing it. Also, no it's not
a fact. All ACTUAL evidence shows kirby under performing. --- Nominate Red XIII for the Character Battle VII! He's the Lion with a fire tail from Final Fantasy VII. |
KamikazePotato | Posted 1/22/2010 6:55:01 AM | message detail |
Tifa
would probably beat the pants off of Sonic these days. Kirby's 57%
against Rikku is much more impressive than Sonic's 63% against
Lightning. --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
vcharon | Posted 1/22/2010 6:55:10 AM | message detail |
lol x-facts? Okay. --- :> |
Sonic_Factor | Posted 1/22/2010 6:55:59 AM | message detail |
Sure
she would bud. You're basing everything on sonic 4way matches, nothing
on 1 on 1. Also, you're trying to use Lightning, who we have no
evidence on to support your claims. You have nothing. --- Nominate Red XIII for the Character Battle VII! He's the Lion with a fire tail from Final Fantasy VII. |
MarioSuperstar | Posted 1/22/2010 6:56:34 AM | message detail |
Wait.. this is a surprising result for some people? Where did you people place Rikku exactly? --- *is Dranze* Krahen Prophet did a fatality. |
KamikazePotato | Posted 1/22/2010 6:57:58 AM | message detail |
So far, results from 4-ways have been extremely accurate. --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
voltch | Posted 1/22/2010 6:58:03 AM | message detail |
rikku is blond, so rikku=link+cloud. --- Shakes Fist! |
KamikazePotato | Posted 1/22/2010 6:58:32 AM | message detail |
And I seriously doubt I need evidence to say that Rikku>Lightning. Lightning doesn't even have a game yet. --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
voltch | Posted 1/22/2010 7:00:11 AM | message detail |
but lightning's got crazy hype going for her. --- Shakes Fist! |
KamikazePotato | Posted 1/22/2010 7:00:39 AM | message detail |
She has no game. --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
vcharon | Posted 1/22/2010 7:00:45 AM | message detail |
I know these lists things are easy for you to follow since you enjoy creating them, so here goes: 1) I'm not a fanboy of either Sonic or Kirby; meaning, I am not biased 2) Your role as "crazed Sonic fanatic" precludes you from being biased 3) Sonic scored only 5% more on Lightning than Kirby did on Rikku 4) Regardless of your "information about Lightning" claim; she's from a game no one has played 5) lol Sonic --- :> |
Sonic_Factor | Posted 1/22/2010 7:02:11 AM | message detail |
If
you're saying 4way matches are so accurate Sonic's falloff didn't
happen last year, it happened in 2k7. The FIRST 4way. He went from
being > crono/Megaman to losing to Tifa who he hit 57% on? Right.
Also, ya you're wrong saying Rikku > Lightning because you simply
have no evidence of it. If she happened to be we don't know by how
much. I'm pretty sure Lightning has been overall far better received
than say Vaan. At least from what I've noticed. People actually like
her. --- Nominate Red XIII for the Character Battle VII! He's the Lion with a fire tail from Final Fantasy VII. |
vcharon | Posted 1/22/2010 7:03:06 AM | message detail |
Vaan has a lot to do with Rikku obviously. Being two totally different characters from two different games and such. --- :> |
red sox 777 | Posted 1/22/2010 7:04:29 AM | message detail |
Sonic didn't lose to Tifa in 2007. And no one should be calling Sonic/Kirby a lock, for either character. We don't really know the strength gap between Rikku and Lightning. --- 6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno 'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared.... |
KanzarisKelshen | Posted 1/22/2010 7:05:20 AM | message detail |
From: vcharon | Posted: 1/22/2010 9:50:40 AM | #099 More like Nintendo's deboosted, if anything. --- Placeholder anti-capslock sig. |
Sonic_Factor | Posted 1/22/2010 7:05:45 AM | message detail |
I'm
honestly not trying to be biased. You guys keep bringing up 4way
matches, Sonic characters have shown great weakness in them since they
began. This is about 1 on 1. From all evidence, Kirby just does not
have what it takes to beat Sonic. The guy lost to Bower/Luigi. It
happened every single year even in 1 on 1. You guys severely
underestimated Sonic, and were proven wrong. The difference is that
Sonic has had GREATER obstacles in the past, and has surpassed them.
Tifa/Vincent/Ryu(was stronger in past) and perhaps aeris. --- Nominate Red XIII for the Character Battle VII! He's the Lion with a fire tail from Final Fantasy VII. |
KamikazePotato | Posted 1/22/2010 7:05:56 AM | message detail |
There's absolutely nothing so far to suggest a Nintendo deboost. --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
Not_Wylvane | Posted 1/22/2010 7:06:10 AM | message detail |
Kirby's doing fine here. Pre-contest, I was thinking GlaDOS would 60-40 Fawful and that Fawful didn't have a chance. Now? I'd be shocked it it wasn't close. Fawful winning wouldn't surprise me just because of how crazy this contest is. Ezio vs Simon? Common sense says Ezio should crush Simon since Simon should be incredibly weak, but then again we've just seen Cecil almost upset Knuckles. I'm certainly not going to count out Simon now that we know that even some fodder could overperform in this format (unless you're Magus). --- Not Wylvane |
KamikazePotato | Posted 1/22/2010 7:06:28 AM | message detail |
4-way matches from 2k7 and 2k8 are far more accurate than anything from 2k6 and before. --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
Sonic_Factor | Posted 1/22/2010 7:06:36 AM | message detail |
My point is Vaan was never well received. Even before ff12 came out in the US, people disliked him. --- Nominate Red XIII for the Character Battle VII! He's the Lion with a fire tail from Final Fantasy VII. |
red sox 777 | Posted 1/22/2010 7:07:55 AM | message detail |
I'm
honestly not trying to be biased. You guys keep bringing up 4way
matches, Sonic characters have shown great weakness in them since they
began. This is about 1 on 1. Then take a look at how Sonic characters have been doing this year, in 1v1 matches. Look at Shadow, Sonic, and Knuckles, especially Knuckles. It matches up perfectly with Sonic Team's performance in 2008 and not at all with their performance in the last 1v1 contest, 2006, which was more than 3 years ago. --- 6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno 'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared.... |
Sonic_Factor | Posted 1/22/2010 7:08:18 AM | message detail |
No,
they aren't. Simply because they are just that, 4 way. We don't know
where the other split votes would go. Nintendo has a far larger set
fanbase on this site than Sega. This was shown in many 4 ways, not just
kirby/sonic. Past polls that don't relate to the character battle have
proven it as well. --- Nominate Red XIII for the Character Battle VII! He's the Lion with a fire tail from Final Fantasy VII. |
vcharon | Posted 1/22/2010 7:09:07 AM | message detail |
Do
you really see no problem with using "evidence" that is like 3 years
old, Sonic_Factor? Sonic had no excuse to lose to Kirby or Auron in the
4-way poll. Sonic characters have shown "a great weakness" this
year in 1v1 format. Lightning making a fool out of Sonic, Knuckles
nearly losing to Cecil and Shadow taking it from behind from Amaterasu. What about your "facts" on Shadow? You really think that before this match you could have said "He put up 44% on Mario, he's good!"? It's old and outdated information. --- :> |
Lightslayer987 | Posted 1/22/2010 7:09:24 AM | message detail |
From: Sonic_Factor | #119 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3303 "oops" --- http://i48.tinypic.com/24ytvz8.png Albion Hero is the Cream of Loli Fanboyism |
Biolizard28 | Posted 1/22/2010 7:09:45 AM | message detail |
You know, after seeing how Ken did yesterday, I can't help but remember how Persona 4 nearly beat SFIV in the game's contest. Jack Frost > Wesker COME ON THEN --- It may be insulting, but it's true! Now this is entertainment! |
Sonic_Factor | Posted 1/22/2010 7:11:44 AM | message detail |
because i was talking about 4way matches. GG --- Nominate Red XIII for the Character Battle VII! He's the Lion with a fire tail from Final Fantasy VII. |
KamikazePotato | Posted 1/22/2010 7:12:24 AM | message detail |
What part of 4-way matches have been accurate so far do you not understand? --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
Lightslayer987 | Posted 1/22/2010 7:12:31 AM | message detail |
so
far we've seen his fall from 4ways is pretty much equal to his 1v1
strength. All 3 sonic team members have embaressed themselves so far;
thats no coincidence. --- http://i48.tinypic.com/24ytvz8.png Albion Hero is the Cream of Loli Fanboyism |
Fayt_Esteed | Posted 1/22/2010 7:12:58 AM | message detail |
You know, after seeing how Ken did yesterday, I can't help but remember how Persona 4 nearly beat SFIV in the game's contest. That was just pathetic on SFIV's part. Getting taken for a ride for THE WHOLE DAY by frigging PERSONA, of all things, in a knock-down, drag-out match where the biggest lead never even broke 300?? --- "Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia |
Sonic_Factor | Posted 1/22/2010 7:13:25 AM | message detail |
Red
sox, do you honestly believe Sonic would fall anywhere near as much as
side characters? It won't happen. Just look at the difference between
Crono, and the now joke characters Frog/Magus. Hell, Megaman/Zero as
well. zero went from getting 47% on Mario, to not even being able to
beat Luigi. --- Nominate Red XIII for the Character Battle VII! He's the Lion with a fire tail from Final Fantasy VII. |
Sonic_Factor | Posted 1/22/2010 7:14:32 AM | message detail |
The part where you're basing Sonic's first 1 on 1 match on his performance against a character with an UNKNOWN level maybe? --- Nominate Red XIII for the Character Battle VII! He's the Lion with a fire tail from Final Fantasy VII. |
Biolizard28 | Posted 1/22/2010 7:14:59 AM | message detail |
From: Fayt_Esteed | #132 Well, I'm mostly just being optimistic here, but Persona can still have some strength on this site. I mean, it's not like it would be the first time a supposedly cult game/character came out and won a match. --- It may be insulting, but it's true! Now this is entertainment! |
KamikazePotato | Posted 1/22/2010 7:15:20 AM | message detail |
A character who has. No. Game. Not to mention Shadow and Knuckles sucking it up. --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
vcharon | Posted 1/22/2010 7:15:27 AM | message detail |
Arguing with you is so pointless. See you when Sonic puts up 52% on Ganondorf. --- :> |
Not_Wylvane | Posted 1/22/2010 7:16:31 AM | message detail |
Sonic
won't have to far too far to get beat by Kirby. It's not like Kirby's a
weakling strength-wise, and Sonic would already lose to near-elites
like Squall, Vincent, and Auron (who he already lost to legitimately). Kirby may not need a bandwagon to beat Sonic now. --- Not Wylvane |
Sonic_Factor | Posted 1/22/2010 7:17:12 AM | message detail |
Considering
Ganondorf hit 48% on Vincent. Vincent hit nearlt 48% on Sonic. I
wouldn't hold it against Ganondorf to come within 2%. We all know how
this site loves to boost Nintendo. Also, Lightning has no game in the
US. Guess what, it doesn't change the fact that you have absolutely no
knowledge of her level. --- Nominate Red XIII for the Character Battle VII! He's the Lion with a fire tail from Final Fantasy VII. |
Not_Wylvane | Posted 1/22/2010 7:17:15 AM | message detail |
From: vcharon | #137 Sonic wishes he could get 52% against Bacondorf! --- Not Wylvane |
voltch | Posted 1/22/2010 7:17:21 AM | message detail |
argh Rikku start doing better already. --- Shakes Fist! |
Lightslayer987 | Posted 1/22/2010 7:17:59 AM | message detail |
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Wii_TuRtLe | Posted 1/22/2010 7:18:20 AM | message detail |
Sonic went from being equal to
Mega Man/Crono. You can't definitively say who was stronger in 2006
because the 3 of them were so close together that simple day-to-day
variation could give you any combination of results. Sonic barely beat
Crono, then scored only .5% better on Snake (which could be attributed
to him sapping some of Snake's Brawl hype or something) than Mega Man.
Sonic didn't start his freefall of suck until 2007. Since then he has
done nothing but disappoint, and I would take most, if not all of our
upper tier non-NN characters over him. If round 3 wasn't the sprite
round, I would be taking Ganondorf to demolish him. If I didn't have
doubts about Kirby's strength, I'd have taken him as well. In summary,
Sonic will be lucky to get out of a division that has no NNers and none
of the Vincent/Squall/Auron elites. That's pretty damn sad. |
voltch | Posted 1/22/2010 7:19:02 AM | message detail |
vote ins are as reliable as those favourite sonic characters polls where Knuckles beat sonic. --- Shakes Fist! |
Lightslayer987 | Posted 1/22/2010 7:19:10 AM | message detail |
Lightning lost to Axel and the Boss in the vote in. She can't be THAT strong. --- http://i48.tinypic.com/24ytvz8.png Albion Hero is the Cream of Loli Fanboyism |
KamikazePotato | Posted 1/22/2010 7:19:31 AM | message detail |
From: Sonic_Factor | #139 There's something called 'educated guesses' that smart people make instead of jumping up and down and using stats from 5 years ago. The chances of Lightning having good strength when her game hasn't been released outside of Japan are very slim. --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
Wii_TuRtLe | Posted 1/22/2010 7:20:52 AM | message detail |
And
if you want to go the lol xstats route, Auron got what, 53-54% on Sonic
last year? And didn't Ganondorf beat Auron with 55% in 2005? Bacondorf > Sonic the Failhog confirmed |
red sox 777 | Posted 1/22/2010 7:21:14 AM | message detail |
Red
sox, do you honestly believe Sonic would fall anywhere near as much as
side characters? It won't happen. Just look at the difference between
Crono, and the now joke characters Frog/Magus. Hell, Megaman/Zero as
well. zero went from getting 47% on Mario, to not even being able to
beat Luigi. No, actually. I agree with that- side characters falling/boosting more than main characters has been my pet theory this year, though it still needs more evidence before I start treating it as fact. However, when side characters collapse, main characters fall too, just not by as much. Zero went from strong near-elite to middle of the line midcarder, and Megaman went from the middle of the Noble Nine to near the bottom. Magus turned into a joke, and Crono went from beating Mario to going even with Vincent. (Frog is however not a joke character and has fallen probably at a rate much closer to Crono's than Magus's. That's because he keeps winning while Magus keeps losing his matches!) With Sonic, perhaps he fell less than Shadow and Knuckles- but when Knuckles is getting 52% on a character Kirby once got 75% on, that's not much of a comfort. And since we have a better idea of Sonic's strength than the other characters in his series anyway, the argument for Kirby is not really about them that much. --- 6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno 'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared.... |
Biolizard28 | Posted 1/22/2010 7:22:50 AM | message detail |
From: KamikazePotato | #146 Not to defend Sonic sucking it up or anything, but most people on this site probably know she's the protagonist of FFXIII, and that's good enough for them to give her the vote. Alternatively, people anti-vote Sonic. Even more alternatively, TJF. --- It may be insulting, but it's true! Now this is entertainment! |
red sox 777 | Posted 1/22/2010 7:26:40 AM | message detail |
It
may be coincidence, but extrapolating through the vote-in poll (using
Axel/Megaman and Sonic/Auron) gave me very accurate results for
Sonic/Lightning. --- 6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno 'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared.... |
