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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 789

creativename | Posted 1/20/2010 9:16:12 PM | message detail
My expectations for Ganon/Sonic haven't really budged even with the Lightning and Cecil results - Lightning was unknown and had potential, while Cecil had reasons to be highly underrated in previous years, and also had reason to boost on top of that.

I still think Sonic Team sucks and has fallen off a cliff, but think Sonc will have enough to beat Ganon, especially with the sprite round. But, Ganon has a shot.

It's Kirby I'm looking at more though.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 1/20/2010 9:16:20 PM | message detail
The Companion Cube got 60% on Mewtwo. Ganondorf is weaksauce

That's about as legit as Squall/Sora's 41% on Mewtwo.
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Scott_Pilgrim | Posted 1/20/2010 9:18:37 PM | message detail
Also how does this bode for Charizard vs. Kratos? I can see Charizard being about the same as Mewtwo, if not a little bit stronger because he's a starter/ the face of Pokemon Red/ a ****ing dragon. And surely we'd all take Ganondorf over Kratos, right?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/20/2010 9:19:09 PM | message detail
This doesn't really say anything about Charizard/Kratos, I don't think.
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Team Rocket Elite | Posted 1/20/2010 9:19:13 PM | message detail
The Companion Cube got 60% on Mewtwo. Ganondorf is weaksauce

So that's around Mega Man level? That's not bad at all.
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Team Rocket Elite | Posted 1/20/2010 9:20:56 PM | message detail
This doesn't really say anything about Charizard/Kratos, I don't think.

At the very least it shows Pokemon won't be falling apart just because it's 1 on 1.
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paraboxx | Posted 1/20/2010 9:20:57 PM | message detail
Actually, looking back on it...what contest veteran hasn't underperformed? Link couldn't break 80% against Thrall. Luigi and X couldn't double Meta Knight and Price. Alucard and Amaterasu looked okay, but that was more about Shadow and Magus bombing. Could this be some sort of contest-wide backlash or something?

The only victory that's been impressive so far has been the Cube's...
The n00b Avenger | Posted 1/20/2010 9:21:07 PM | message detail
And they're around Tidus level so they are weaksauce too
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/20/2010 9:21:21 PM | message detail
Ganondorf isn't underperforming. This should've been about what anyone expected.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 1/20/2010 9:22:11 PM | message detail
Hm.. I wonder how much Kratos would get on Ganondorf now.
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/20/2010 9:22:13 PM | message detail
Mewtwo's doing better here than he did against Bowser with Toad, and Ganondorf is supposed to be stronger, so he's doing pretty well.
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UltraBaller1000 | Posted 1/20/2010 9:22:34 PM | message detail
Mewtwo barely beat Midna. Ganondorf should be doing better. I guess nobody likes Zelda anymore ;_;

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KanzarisKelshen | Posted 1/20/2010 9:22:39 PM | message detail

From: paraboxx | Posted: 1/21/2010 12:20:57 AM | #157
Actually, looking back on it...what contest veteran hasn't underperformed? Link couldn't break 80% against Thrall. Luigi and X couldn't double Meta Knight and Price. Alucard and Amaterasu looked okay, but that was more about Shadow and Magus bombing. Could this be some sort of contest-wide backlash or something?

The only victory that's been impressive so far has been the Cube's...


Good question. Personally, however, I think the answer isn't that: it's the votals. We've calibrated things for much higher votals, where the winner wins broadly due to the amount of votes cast and how important appeal is. With a return to 2k2/2k4esque votals, winners have performed at more sensible levels.
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charmander6000 | Posted 1/20/2010 9:22:54 PM | message detail
This may be only the 11th match, but the average victory percent is a lot lower compare to other 1v1. So far 4 matches had the winner finish below 55%.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/20/2010 9:23:41 PM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #164
This may be only the 11th match, but the average victory percent is a lot lower compare to other 1v1. So far 4 matches had the winner finish below 55%.


Yeah, but we've already had a higher amount of debatable matches than usual, mostly due to seeding, I think. Normally, a 2/15 matchup isn't debatable.
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/20/2010 9:23:48 PM | message detail
Well, we haven't seen any strong characters aside from Nintendo and Sonic yet, so let's wait until we see some Square or other characters first.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/20/2010 9:23:58 PM | message detail
Man, Mewtwo has 3 good matches and people never shut up about the Midna match which was 1. Obviously against a decent Midna, considering how she did the previous round 2. An outlier.

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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 1/20/2010 9:24:14 PM | message detail
How do people manage to overreact on an expected result.
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charmander6000 | Posted 1/20/2010 9:24:17 PM | message detail
Mewtwo's doing better here than he did against Bowser with Toad, and Ganondorf is supposed to be stronger, so he's doing pretty well.

No he isn't unless you add all of Toad's votes.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/20/2010 9:24:54 PM | message detail

From: KleenexTissue50 | #168
How do people manage to overreact on an expected result.


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Zenithian Legend | Posted 1/20/2010 9:25:08 PM | message detail
Why did I pick MewTwo here... I know I originally had Ganon, and said, "Oh Pokemon, Gamefaqs loves those." Oh well... can't win 'em all.
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/20/2010 9:25:11 PM | message detail
Oh- I read the x-stats on the page wrong. I forgot Ryu won that match.
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Chaotic Mind | Posted 1/20/2010 9:25:31 PM | message detail
We just had a lot of matches with people close in strength. I expect to see a lot more bigger gaps in the coming divisions.

Of course i expected Ganon to be around 64-65% today, so what do i know.
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charmander6000 | Posted 1/20/2010 9:25:41 PM | message detail
Besides at this rate it seems that Ganondorf will finish with over 60%, pretty good.
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KanzarisKelshen | Posted 1/20/2010 9:25:45 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | Posted: 1/21/2010 12:23:58 AM | #167
Man, Mewtwo has 3 good matches and people never shut up about the Midna match which was 1. Obviously against a decent Midna, considering how she did the previous round 2. An outlier.


Struggling to beat a super-SFFd AND LFFd Squall is NOT impressive, much as I like him. It's just a big bomb.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/20/2010 9:26:30 PM | message detail
Struggling?

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3297

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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/20/2010 9:27:05 PM | message detail
Heck, Mewtwo got a better percent on Cloud in that match than some Noble Niners would be able to hack these days!

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charmander6000 | Posted 1/20/2010 9:27:18 PM | message detail
Struggling to beat a super-SFFd AND LFFd Squall is NOT impressive, much as I like him. It's just a big bomb.

Not sure what match you're watching, but Mewtwo won that match rather easily.
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AsurasKordoth | Posted 1/20/2010 9:28:47 PM | message detail
Uh Mewtwo is supposed to be impressive in that match when Cloud, Squall, and Sora were all present? lol.
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Silverflash-x | Posted 1/20/2010 9:29:12 PM | message detail
Heck, Mewtwo got a better percent on Cloud in that match than some Noble Niners would be able to hack these days!

*coughChronocough*
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paraboxx | Posted 1/20/2010 9:29:20 PM | message detail
How do people manage to overreact on an expected result.

I expected 65/35, so that's how I'm managing it.

Well, we haven't seen any strong characters aside from Nintendo and Sonic yet, so let's wait until we see some Square or other characters first.

A point. The strongest Square entrant we've seen so far has been Cecil (and if you factor in the bracket support, he looked pretty damn good). Won't have to wait long for that to change, either, since Rikku and Vivi are coming right up.
red sox 777 | Posted 1/20/2010 9:30:13 PM | message detail
Any Noble Niner would easily beat Mewtwo's percentage if put into his spot in that poll.

The only one who might not do it is Sephiroth if Cloud decides to turn on the SFF boosters, hard.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/20/2010 9:30:18 PM | message detail
Okay, Ganondorf! Stay right there for the next 11 and a half hours! My Oracle is perfect!
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RPGuy96 | Posted 1/20/2010 9:30:37 PM | message detail
Mewtwo got 34% on Cloud in that triple LFF match.
Zack got 34% on Link in a triple LFF match where he nearly beat Mario.

I mean, yeah, those are obviously inflated thanks to the whole triple LFF thing, but that's damned impressive anyway.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/20/2010 9:31:31 PM | message detail
Oh, and Midna's not as bad as people think she is. She got a bad rap for getting blown out by Scorps in 2007, but I'm half convinced that Kratos LFF'd her back then.
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Lightslayer987 | Posted 1/20/2010 9:32:03 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #182
Any Noble Niner would easily beat Mewtwo's percentage if put into his spot in that poll.

The only one who might not do it is Sephiroth if Cloud decides to turn on the SFF boosters, hard.


Cloud (2007c) VS Crono (2007c)

Cloud has a strength of 51.90.
Crono has a strength of 34.61.

Cloud wins with 66.66% of the vote!
A win of 59,102 with 177,408 total votes cast.


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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/20/2010 9:32:24 PM | message detail
I'm pretty much fully convinced, considering she had no reason to boost yet...did.

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AsurasKordoth | Posted 1/20/2010 9:32:27 PM | message detail
Kratos and Midna has the same fanbase, how?
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/20/2010 9:32:53 PM | message detail
ToS is basically Nintendo.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/20/2010 9:32:57 PM | message detail

From: AsurasKordoth | #188
Kratos and Midna has the same fanbase, how?


Tales of Symphonia is a Gamecube exclusive, and it has Nintendo trends.
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/20/2010 9:33:14 PM | message detail
Did you miss the part about Squall and Sora being in the poll, Albion?
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 1/20/2010 9:33:36 PM | message detail
Oh, and Midna's not as bad as people think she is. She got a bad rap for getting blown out by Scorps in 2007, but I'm half convinced that Kratos LFF'd her back then.

A Zelda character LFF'd by a TALES character? Not buying it. Kratos couldn't even beat a SFF'd Diddy Kong last contest and I'm supposed to believe he LFF'd Midna a significant amount?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/20/2010 9:34:08 PM | message detail
Kratos couldn't even beat a SFF'd Diddy Kong last contest and I'm supposed to believe he LFF'd Midna a significant amount?

Because he was being LFF'd by Captain Falcon and Diddy himself!
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Lightslayer987 | Posted 1/20/2010 9:34:18 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #191
Did you miss the part about Squall and Sora being in the poll, Albion?


no i didnt

since i'm pretty sure having 4 square characters in the poll, Cloud would just demolish them all
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/20/2010 9:35:03 PM | message detail
Let's assume that Mewtwo ends this match with 41% and that Charizard is a bit stronger. What do you guys think Kratos would get on Ganondorf 1v1?
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 1/20/2010 9:35:47 PM | message detail
Let's assume that Mewtwo ends this match with 41% and that Charizard is a bit stronger. What do you guys think Kratos would get on Ganondorf 1v1?

40.98%


yeah get on the sort of sffed Mewtwo > Kratos train
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/20/2010 9:35:59 PM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #195
Let's assume that Mewtwo ends this match with 41% and that Charizard is a bit stronger. What do you guys think Kratos would get on Ganondorf 1v1?


Hmmm...45%+ at least.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 1/20/2010 9:41:44 PM | message detail
Jill/Ocelot got roughly 40% on Kratos and 21% on Cloud - that gives Kratos 26.25% on Cloud. That eyeballs nicely with his 29% on Sephiroth last year, at least to me. It's also about what Mewtwo got on Cloud in the Cloud/Snake/Cube/Mewtwo match, where I think you have a decent argument for LPF.

So if you think Charizard is about equal to or stronger than Mewtwo, he's got a pretty good shot.
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creativename | Posted 1/20/2010 9:43:03 PM | message detail
So you're saying stats-wise Kratos is pretty close to Mewtwo RPGuy?
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/20/2010 9:43:35 PM | message detail

From: creativename | #199
So you're saying stats-wise Kratos is pretty close to Mewtwo RPGuy?


That sounds about right to me. Kratos would probably beat him with 55% or so.

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