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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 788
Jman_maximum | Posted 1/20/2010 11:18:09 AM | message detail |
Surely you must understand why I'm a little skeptical of Crono's strength as a Noble Niner and you aren't even more skeptical of Sonic's? Crono lost to the strongest non noble nine character then came back to beat him. Sonic lost to ...Kirby. |
charmander6000 | Posted 1/20/2010 11:18:31 AM | message detail |
Actually
during the 2002 character, the big talk was about Mario, Crono, Link,
and Sephiroth. A lot of people thought that Snake was comparatively
mid-tier. What? Snake/Sephiroth was the popular final. Those 5 characters were known as the big 5. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 5/8 - Today's Winners: Sonic and Knuckles |
HaRRicH | Posted 1/20/2010 11:19:02 AM | message detail |
The
Noble Nine was basically the elite 8 of 2003 plus Crono. First they
were all from a previous contest and second they looked to be the
strongest characters (especially in 2002). Remember this was done
before x-stats that showed Magus > Sonic. Yep, and in 2002 they had the majority of the Elite Eight as well; bracket placement allowed Scorpion to make it that far while pitting Sonic and Mega Man against Samus and Sephiroth (respectively) in the Sweet Sixteen. Considering Mega Man has 49+% on Sephiroth and Sonic arguably lost to Samus due to cheating in the first HUGE match of contest-history (anybody remember the lag?), people didn't need to see Sonic/Mega Man beat one of those guys to know they were a step above the rest. --- T E A M C H O C O L A T E http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7355/64590879.png |
charmander6000 | Posted 1/20/2010 11:19:57 AM | message detail |
Wait sorry, the big 5 were Mario Cloud Solid Snake Link Sephiroth Thought Crono was Cloud for a second. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 5/8 - Today's Winners: Sonic and Knuckles |
Cyclo_Reaper | Posted 1/20/2010 11:20:01 AM | message detail |
Plus Mega Man was an early star of the 2002 contest with those massive blowouts he was doing --- http://i48.tinypic.com/24ytvz8.png Albion Hero is the Cream of Loli Fanboyism |
XxSoulxX | Posted 1/20/2010 11:20:37 AM | message detail |
Tsunami
has posted in these topics since the contest started, and every one of
his posts is almost the exact same. It's like he's learning all of
these terms and ideas that we use, but he's learning them wrong and
acts like he's completely right. He doesn't seem to understand that
he's wrong in his ideas (just look at his understanding of the NN) but
just keeps trying to push us into his way of thinking. It is kind of funny actually. --- Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename |
Dark_Spiral | Posted 1/20/2010 11:21:32 AM | message detail |
I'm
saying the entire cast of Sonic characters are looking a hell of a lot
weaker then they did in previous contests. Sonic putting up 63% on
Lightning is a huge indicator of this (yet you're ignoring it based off
of a couple hundred "upset voters"), so I'm pointing you towards the
fact that the other Sonic characters have looked like **** so far,
proving that Sonic has fallen. You can believe what you want, but don't say that Sonic is as strong as before without anything to back you up. Fair enough. And I'm not ignoring anything, but at this point we'll agree to disagree. We'll just have to wait and see how the match turns out to see how whether it holds up or not. If Sonic does beat Ganon, he'll probably beat Kirby though. A few people in the b8 mafia chat and others I've talked to online seem to think Crono will pull it off.(Names are obviously a no-no. Don't want those poor bastards getting flamed or laughed at. >.>) |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 1/20/2010 11:23:35 AM | message detail |
Just now woke up. LOL SONIC TEAM ARE YOU KIDDING? Kirby would have to really suck (lololol) to not win the division. --- "Opinions are like butts, little girl. Everyone has one and no one thinks theirs stinks." -Lunar 2 |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 1/20/2010 11:24:31 AM | message detail |
From: XxSoulxX | Posted: 1/20/2010 2:20:37 PM | #256 He's the guy who kept yelling at everyone that Meta Knight > Luigi was a legitimate match. All you need to know about how serious you need to take him. --- "I want to crawl into a hole and die every time I read a lihlih post." -FFDragon |
XxSoulxX | Posted 1/20/2010 11:24:41 AM | message detail |
I
know of one or two people claiming Crono will beat Sephiroth, but
they're just hoping for that result rather than expecting it. And if Sonic > Ganon happens, it will be because of the sprite round making Ganondorf a lot weaker than what he is capable of. Kirby will be Sonic's first legit test (if Ganondorf doesn't knock him out already). If Sonic can beat Kirby straight up, than I'll concede. Until that time though, Sonic's got a lot of proving to do, and I'm not going to believe in him being an elite character until that match. --- "Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename |
charmander6000 | Posted 1/20/2010 11:24:47 AM | message detail |
I do agree that if Sonic gets past Ganondorf, he'll get past Kirby. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 5/8 - Today's Winners: Sonic and Knuckles |
TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 1/20/2010 11:25:01 AM | message detail |
LeonhartFour
says that the 2002 X-Stats determined the Noble Nine. Okay, fair
enough, but I'm curious: How did they come to the conclusion of "Nine"?
I'm looking at those X-Stats on the wiki, and while it's true that the
Noble Nine were the top nine in the 2002 X-Stats, it's also true that
#9 (Solid Snake) was closer in percentage to #11 than he was to #8. So, why 9? Interestingly enough, in 2003, Snake moved up to 8th, but it was a newcomer that finished 9th, ahead of Sonic. In 2004, Sonic was back into the top 8 at #7, but Snake was 11th. And in 2005, Sonic and Snake were in the top 8, but Samus was 13th. It seems to me that it was a somewhat arbitrary number at first, and you just kind of lucked out when 2006 validated it with head-to-head results. |
WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 1/20/2010 11:25:16 AM | message detail |
Given the potential Nintendo drop, can I still talk about Sora > Mario and be taken seriously? >_> --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png |
XxSoulxX | Posted 1/20/2010 11:25:21 AM | message detail |
He's
the guy who kept yelling at everyone that Meta Knight > Luigi was a
legitimate match. All you need to know about how serious you need to
take him. Yes! That's why I remember him. He didn't understand what SFF meant. --- "Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename |
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 1/20/2010 11:25:43 AM | message detail |
The
only arguments you could possibly make for momentum are Starcraft (Holy
crap, an awesome game that was a 16 seed is winning! Sweet!) and
L-Block (Ha! A Tetris piece in the third round. How awesome would it be
if he beat that loser Link for a change?) Kirby Vs. Cloud Vs. Sephiroth Vs. Snake Massive PS1 SFF? Before yesterday, I would have agreed with you because Kirby beat Sonic, but clearly Sonic is somehow down in that Kirby/Yoshi/Luigi area now for whatever reason. And Sonic beating Ganondorf means nothing because we all saw what happened last time Bacondorf reared its ugly head. Kirby > Bacondorf. --- http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/020/b/f/Ariel_by_lolita_art.jpg |
WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 1/20/2010 11:26:53 AM | message detail |
CECIL CUT EARLY SIGNS OF ASV MAYBE? ....It's still possible to me, damnit! --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png |
XxSoulxX | Posted 1/20/2010 11:27:25 AM | message detail |
Tsunami, stop arguing. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
Achromatic | Posted 1/20/2010 11:27:44 AM | message detail |
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Dark_Spiral | Posted 1/20/2010 11:27:58 AM | message detail |
I
know of one or two people claiming Crono will beat Sephiroth, but
they're just hoping for that result rather than expecting it. And if Sonic > Ganon happens, it will be because of the sprite round making Ganondorf a lot weaker than what he is capable of. Kirby will be Sonic's first legit test (if Ganondorf doesn't knock him out already). If Sonic can beat Kirby straight up, than I'll concede. Until that time though, Sonic's got a lot of proving to do, and I'm not going to believe in him being an elite character until that match. Btw, thanks for not being a douche and actually elaborating on your points. So many discussions seem to fall into that category unfortunately. >.> I'm more concerned with Ganon then I am Kirby. He seems to be the go to guy when it comes to taking characters out unless he gets stuck against the the usual group that make it to the finals. |
Achromatic | Posted 1/20/2010 11:27:59 AM | message detail |
From: TsunamiXXVIII | #262 Snake just looked better, honestly. --- SK Mason? No way is a host that stupid. Sir Chris |
XxSoulxX | Posted 1/20/2010 11:29:03 AM | message detail |
Massive
PS1 SFF? Before yesterday, I would have agreed with you because Kirby
beat Sonic, but clearly Sonic is somehow down in that Kirby/Yoshi/Luigi
area now for whatever reason. There was a lot of SFF there, but because of Kirby's upset over Sonic, he gained tonnes of momentum. Enough to defeat Sephiroth and lead Cloud for hours. --- "Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename |
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 1/20/2010 11:29:13 AM | message detail |
Aside from the fact that: a) They are all the respective leads of the biggest franchises on this site, that anyone who is a regular would correctly predict to be strong b) After the first 2 contests it was clear they were in a league of their own (well, until Magus/Link threw doubt into it, but then Crono/Magus happened and that argument basically went out the window until Snake was looking primed to lose to one of the near elites). The Noble Nine was infallible until Snake looked like he was going to job, but then Brawl happened and they were safe for another year. --- http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/020/b/f/Ariel_by_lolita_art.jpg |
marsman57 | Posted 1/20/2010 11:30:20 AM | message detail |
From: charmander6000 | #252 I dunno, I got a lot of flack for having Snake over Crono. I guess a mid-tier comparison was a bit extreme to say, but a lot of people at the time did say they thought he was weaker than the other 4 by a decent amount, kind of like people say of Sonic and the NN now. --- Maybe PICS NAO later, WTF do you think this is, Neopets or something! No ****ing maybe no ****ing later, PICS NAO or DAIIIIII!! -- LeighDaMan |
XxSoulxX | Posted 1/20/2010 11:30:59 AM | message detail |
Btw, thanks for not being a douche and actually elaborating on your points. No probs! --- Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename |
marsman57 | Posted 1/20/2010 11:31:25 AM | message detail |
From: charmander6000 | #252 Also, I definitely meant Cloud when I wrote Crono in that first post. --- Maybe PICS NAO later, WTF do you think this is, Neopets or something! No ****ing maybe no ****ing later, PICS NAO or DAIIIIII!! -- LeighDaMan |
charmander6000 | Posted 1/20/2010 11:32:00 AM | message detail |
I
dunno, I got a lot of flack for having Snake over Crono. I guess a
mid-tier comparison was a bit extreme to say, but a lot of people at
the time did say they thought he was weaker than the other 4 by a
decent amount, kind of like people say of Sonic and the NN now. Well by that time Solid Snake had three underperformances while Crono tore up his half of the bracket, Snake's biggest blowout was smaller than Crono's smallest win. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 5/8 - Today's Winners: Sonic and Knuckles |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 1/20/2010 11:34:04 AM | message detail |
From: Dark_Spiral | Posted: 1/20/2010 2:21:32 PM | #257 Sonic will probably beat Ganon because of it being the sprite round. A mock pic: http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/6669/sonicvganonr3other.jpg The Ganon is definitely getting used, no one knows what the Sonic picture is yet. Either way, the last match where anything from Sonic Team looked good in was Sonic > Crono comeback. And then he follows this up by letting Snake blow his doors off, and you can blame Crono having his worst year that year. Basically, 2005 was the last time Sonic Team didn't suck in this. This is a fact, and no amount of spin or damage control changes it. The voters have finally gotten sick of them. --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´`·.,¸¸,.·´ http://img.imgcake.com/wesker.gif |
charmander6000 | Posted 1/20/2010 11:35:17 AM | message detail |
Ganondorf getting a sprite picture isn't the same as Solid ****. He only went from 52.5% on Luigi to 49%. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 5/8 - Today's Winners: Sonic and Knuckles |
Silverflash-x | Posted 1/20/2010 11:36:58 AM | message detail |
Woohoo, I'll be 7/10 when this is done. >_> <_< This is my worst contest start ever. --- Q. If your canoe is in a tree with its headlights on, how many pancakes does it take to get to the moon? A. None. Snakes don't have armpits. |
marsman57 | Posted 1/20/2010 11:37:38 AM | message detail |
From: charmander6000 | #276 Yeah, it was a valid point, but it is definitely why people were wary of Snake at the time as a top performer. I wish I had done better in that contest. I had Snake taking the tournament, but the thing is that for the most part I made my picks that year based on who I liked the best since there were no stats or history to go on. I did exceptionally well in the first round, but after that it all fell to pieces. --- Maybe PICS NAO later, WTF do you think this is, Neopets or something! No ****ing maybe no ****ing later, PICS NAO or DAIIIIII!! -- LeighDaMan |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 1/20/2010 11:38:06 AM | message detail |
From: TsunamiXXVIII | Posted: 1/20/2010 2:25:01 PM | #262 The Noble Nine was not a term used until after the 2003 contest. Slowflake invented it, it sounded catchy and became common lingo, as it were. It has nothing to do with stats. It's a 1v1 winning streak from 9 characters that have been in every contest since 2002. The streak has only ever been broken in 4ways, but people obviously take 4way results with a huge grain of salt. Arguing what something means when you weren't here at the time of its conception and clearly have no idea what you're talking about makes you look pretty stupid. --- .,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´`·.,¸¸,. You're not a good person. You know that, right? |
Zenithian Legend | Posted 1/20/2010 11:39:27 AM | message detail |
Hmm,
why is everyone assuming Ganon beats Mewtwo? Don't get me wrong, I
think Ganon is a far superior character, but the site's infatuation
with Pokemon has risen over the years, so I think Ganon winning is far
from a lock. Plus look how poorly Ganon performed when he went up
against Samus & Vincent, even falling behind Gordon. I'm not saying bet the farm on Mewtwo, I'm just saying I wouldn't guarantee Ganon wins that match already. |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 1/20/2010 11:39:50 AM | message detail |
Granted, you're the "SFF CANNOT HAPPEN BETWEEN LUIGI AND META KNIGHT BECAUSE META KNIGHT IS SO AWESOME" guy. --- "Opinions are like butts, little girl. Everyone has one and no one thinks theirs stinks." -Lunar 2 |
XxSoulxX | Posted 1/20/2010 11:40:26 AM | message detail |
Hmm,
why is everyone assuming Ganon beats Mewtwo? Don't get me wrong, I
think Ganon is a far superior character, but the site's infatuation
with Pokemon has risen over the years, so I think Ganon winning is far
from a lock. Plus look how poorly Ganon performed when he went up
against Samus & Vincent, even falling behind Gordon. Bowser already beat Mewtwo, and Ganondorf has always looked stronger then Bowser. --- "Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename |
WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 1/20/2010 11:40:36 AM | message detail |
Mewtwo barely beat Midna, he's not touching Ganondorf. --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 1/20/2010 11:40:46 AM | message detail |
From: Zenithian Legend | Posted: 1/20/2010 2:39:27 PM | #282 Ganon's absolute worst (barring SFF) can beat Mewtwo's absolute best. But you can be sure Mewtwo has my vote in that one. Love the guy. --- .,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´`·.,¸¸,. "Oh that the world were more like Ulti." -Meeks54 |
charmander6000 | Posted 1/20/2010 11:40:55 AM | message detail |
Hmm,
why is everyone assuming Ganon beats Mewtwo? Don't get me wrong, I
think Ganon is a far superior character, but the site's infatuation
with Pokemon has risen over the years, so I think Ganon winning is far
from a lock. Plus look how poorly Ganon performed when he went up
against Samus & Vincent, even falling behind Gordon. - Mewtwo couldn't defeat Bowser with Toad in the poll in 2007 - Mewtwo went even against Midna, Ganondorf > Midna (unless you think Cloud RPG SFF him) --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 5/8 - Today's Winners: Sonic and Knuckles |
voltch | Posted 1/20/2010 11:42:32 AM | message detail |
Mewtwo's getting stomped by ganon end of. --- Shakes Fist! |
charmander6000 | Posted 1/20/2010 11:42:36 AM | message detail |
What's with these Cecil spikes? --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 5/8 - Today's Winners: Sonic and Knuckles |
Dark_Spiral | Posted 1/20/2010 11:43:35 AM | message detail |
No idea. Not going to jump to conclusions on the spikes considering how close it was before, but it could be the time of day |
WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 1/20/2010 11:43:48 AM | message detail |
These are really Cecil spikes so much as they're Knuckles dropping off. ...Knuckles is cheating confirmed imhooooo DO IT BACON. --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png |
WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 1/20/2010 11:44:05 AM | message detail |
*aren't really --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png |
ffmasterjose | Posted 1/20/2010 11:46:04 AM | message detail |
Plus look how poorly Ganon performed when he went up against Samus & Vincent, even falling behind Gordon. That happens when Samus is in the poll and you're a fellow Non-NN Nintendo character. --- 7/9 points - The Great GameFAQs Character Battle VIII NP: Sonic the Hedgehog > Lightning | Knuckles the Echidna > Cecil Harvey |
HaRRicH | Posted 1/20/2010 11:46:04 AM | message detail |
Bacondorf shouldn't matter a whole lot: ( http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/cb6/cb6-41.jpg ) http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2903 ( http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/cb6/cb6-53.jpg ) http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2915 That's in an SFF-match with Luigi, whose sprite is a lot more recognizable as well. We also don't know how much having Mudkip in the match before affected Ganon/Luigi from the round before. I also don't recall people hating on Bacondorf much for his performance in this match (though it's his SNES-sprite): ( http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/spc2k5/b23.jpg ) http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2011 Sonic's sprite should help him take advantage of Bacondorf, but I don't think it'll matter as much as people make it sound. If he gets a sprite from LoZ:LttP, it should be a little better for him. Sonic's going to have his hands full, and Ganon finally gets a great shot to break the Noble Nine (he's deserved it since 2005!). PS - more official pictures of Ganon: http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/sc2k5/b50.jpg http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/spc2k5/b31.jpg CJay was so cool. --- T E A M C H O C O L A T E http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7355/64590879.png |
Zenithian Legend | Posted 1/20/2010 11:46:22 AM | message detail |
Mewtwo barely beat Midna, he's not touching Ganondorf. Oh ya, that makes sense then. Mewtwo obviously only slid by Sora & Squall because they were both in that 4-way match with Cloud sff'ing them to death. |
Biolizard28 | Posted 1/20/2010 11:51:28 AM | message detail |
I want so badly for Cecil to win. I don't care if it doesn't matter since he's getting beaten by Sonic. I just want this **** to happen. --- It may be insulting, but it's true! Now this is entertainment! |
Lightslayer987 | Posted 1/20/2010 11:51:54 AM | message detail |
10 minutes till Cecil time --- http://i48.tinypic.com/24ytvz8.png Albion Hero is the Cream of Loli Fanboyism |
XxSoulxX | Posted 1/20/2010 11:53:05 AM | message detail |
Speaking
of match pictures, who is currently running the gamefaqscontests.com
website? I really hate going through the match pictures and having to
pretty much guess where my picture I'm looking for is. I was trying to
find some sprite Ganondorf pictures and I have to go through every
single contest, every single page before I found them all. Whenever you (the person in charge) have time, can you please implement some sort of search feature for match pics? Like if I type in "Ganondorf", it will show all of his match pictures. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
Zenithian Legend | Posted 1/20/2010 11:53:17 AM | message detail |
This
is a really bizarre match, as Cecil seems to inch closer and closer,
only for Knuckles to post another small gain. Hopefully Cecil pulls
this one off, although I don't think losing another point here is going
to make or break my bracket. --- ~Dammit the Karma Boost blasted me over 3000, no milestone post for me. |
WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 1/20/2010 11:53:44 AM | message detail |
Alright kiddies, now is your time to prove yourself. Guide Cecil to victory, and you will become the greatest heroes of all time. *deep breath* Let's do this. --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png |
