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ZFS | Posted 1/19/2010 10:45:00 PM | message detail
Squall wasn't anywhere near as popular as he is now the further back in time you go -- and a good chunk of what he has now is owed to Kingdom Hearts, not just FFVIII. The better comparison would be FFXII, but FFXIII will almost definitely be a more popular game than that. It's definitely not going to be as strong as FFVIII out of the gate, I'd be very surprised if it was.

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HaRRicH | Posted 1/19/2010 10:45:07 PM | message detail
Squall's the product of FF8 and the KH-series though; he didn't do well at all against Solid until KH hit.
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/19/2010 10:45:50 PM | message detail
Sure he is. He was only 2% behind Bowser and Luigi in 2005-6, and he was on the rise as a Nintendo character at that time already.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/19/2010 10:46:23 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #199
I wouldn't trust those polls. Taking that kind of poll right after a game comes out gives you absurd stuff like.....

Chrono Cross > FFVII + FFVIII combined


Yeah, but FFXII not even being able to beat FFIX fresh off of its release basically predicted that Balthier was going to bomb (even though we didn't expect he'd be weak enough to lose to ADA WONG).
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/19/2010 10:46:28 PM | message detail

From: HaRRicH | #202
Squall's the product of FF8 and the KH-series though; he didn't do well at all against Solid until KH hit.


I think he woulda looked better if he wasn't stuck with Snake round 1, plus FFVIII hate was a lot stronger back then then it is now.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/19/2010 10:46:54 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #203
Sure he is. He was only 2% behind Bowser and Luigi in 2005-6, and he was on the rise as a Nintendo character at that time already.


No, he wasn't. He looked weaker in 2006 than he did in 2005, and he didn't look great in 2007 or 2008 until about round three of the latter contest.
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/19/2010 10:47:02 PM | message detail
Eh, I don't really think that highly of Kirby. I just don't think much of the strength of the Luigi/Bowser/Yoshi trio these days, post-Deboost.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/19/2010 10:47:40 PM | message detail

From: KleenexTissue50 | #200
I hope Kirby loses to Rikku just because of how much people are overestimating him because of last year.


Same. I think Rikku will do well enough to at least make people reconsider Sonic as the division winner.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 1/19/2010 10:48:03 PM | message detail
Lightning was pretty much built to be the one of the most likable character in the series. If FF13 is received well here, there's no reason she shouldn't be at least hanging with guys like Bowser and Luigi.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/19/2010 10:48:41 PM | message detail
Rikku breaking 45% on Kirby wouldn't surprise me at all since she did it to Ryu. I don't think Kirby/Ryu is a lock for either side.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/19/2010 10:49:23 PM | message detail
Plus a night match should only help Rikku. Plus if she gets some ecchi pic, that would seal her win ... !
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/19/2010 10:49:49 PM | message detail
I hope Rikku gets the Dark Knight pic I made for her so she can tap into that old school FF night vote!
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/19/2010 10:50:00 PM | message detail
And I would take Zack over anyone on that list besides Kirby too, maybe even over him.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/19/2010 10:50:53 PM | message detail
Fact/Fiction: Knuckles beats Sonic if Sonic gets a Werehog pic

(Hint hint: Someone go make one)
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/19/2010 10:51:28 PM | message detail
Lightning gets her first 40% update!
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/19/2010 10:51:31 PM | message detail
I'll probably give Rikku 45% in the Guru unless I see something that sways me. It's funny how people are claiming Nintendo-deboost while others (if not the same people, which would be even funnier) are handing Kirby the division title. If there's a Nintendo decline, I doubt Kirby is somehow immune.

Also, we all know KNUCKLES is taking the division title.
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AmazingKirby | Posted 1/19/2010 10:54:02 PM | message detail
I hope Rikku gets the Dark Knight pic I made for her so she can tap into that old school FF night vote!

I hope Rikku gets the FFX pic I made for her so she can tap into that anti-FFX-2 vote!
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HaRRicH | Posted 1/19/2010 10:54:45 PM | message detail
Rikku will do well, yes, and people will inevitably start to doubt Kirby winning the division...but right now, this division may be closer to a free-for-all than anything else if Sonic is bombing and the sprite round is back.

Just curious: how much should Vivi get on Sonic? He'd cleanly beat Magus.....
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HaRRicH | Posted 1/19/2010 10:56:26 PM | message detail
Fact/Fiction: Knuckles beats Sonic if Sonic gets a Werehog pic

...let's find out. We must make this happen.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/19/2010 10:56:30 PM | message detail
Seriously speaking, are we considering Knuckles>Sonic? Knuckles will obviously have to impress tomorrow - something that seems to be impossible for Sonic Team nowadays - but if he does, what's stopping it from happening?

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/19/2010 10:57:22 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #220
Seriously speaking, are we considering Knuckles>Sonic? Knuckles will obviously have to impress tomorrow - something that seems to be impossible for Sonic Team nowadays - but if he does, what's stopping it from happening?


I think its another Crono/Magus match, tbh. People think Magus is cooler and people say the fanbase prefers him, but crono laid the beat down on him.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/19/2010 10:57:39 PM | message detail
Vivi or Liquid, whichever!

Based on char's stats, Vivi gets 41.50% on Sonic and Liquid gets 42.40% on him. Who knows though. If you think Luigi could beat Sonic now, Liquid breaks 45%.
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 1/19/2010 10:57:59 PM | message detail
I would hope not.

Unless you guys really have lost it
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/19/2010 10:58:12 PM | message detail

From: MyWorldIsCrono | #221
I think its another Crono/Magus match, tbh. People think Magus is cooler and people say the fanbase prefers him, but crono laid the beat down on him.


Nah, we're looking at Mega Man/Zero I here!
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/19/2010 10:58:35 PM | message detail
Crono/Magus could always happen, but this situation is different. Sonic is starting to be outright hated thanks to his recent ventures, while Knuckles is the character everyone thinks of when they think of a return to the glory days of Sonic.

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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 1/19/2010 10:58:39 PM | message detail
Knuckles > Sonic would be awesome because it means that "favorite character" polls hold some weight!

Which means that Yoshi is the strongest Mario character !
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/19/2010 10:58:39 PM | message detail
Man, Sonic can't even get 100 vote gains now.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/19/2010 10:59:02 PM | message detail
The fact that Sonic should still be a good bit stronger. Knuckles needs to not have fallen as far as the others (which I think is possible since people seem to hate him less), needs to get a bit of that Mega Man/Zero rSFF magic, and needs for people to simply want that result to happen. It won't be easy, but I wouldn't call it impossible.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/19/2010 10:59:21 PM | message detail

From: Shoenin_Kakashi | #223
I would hope not.

Unless you guys really have lost it


Sonic is currently failing to double a character without a game released outside of Japan.

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/19/2010 11:00:09 PM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #228
The fact that Sonic should still be a good bit stronger. Knuckles needs to not have fallen as far as the others (which I think is possible since people seem to hate him less), needs to get a bit of that Mega Man/Zero rSFF magic, and needs for people to simply want that result to happen. It won't be easy, but I wouldn't call it impossible.


I do expect the board vote to be strong for knux, sending people into chaos
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/19/2010 11:00:11 PM | message detail
Yeah, I don't expect it to happen at all but then you look at today's poll and wonder how low Sonic can sink.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/19/2010 11:00:26 PM | message detail
Of course, Knuckles would have to pull a Kirby and triple Cecil before I'd seriously consider it.
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/19/2010 11:01:05 PM | message detail
I'll probably give Rikku 45% in the Guru unless I see something that sways me. It's funny how people are claiming Nintendo-deboost while others (if not the same people, which would be even funnier) are handing Kirby the division title. If there's a Nintendo decline, I doubt Kirby is somehow immune.

Yeah, I might be a little guilty of that, although I've never handed Kirby the division title, took Sonic, and still think Sonic is the favorite. And actually, Kirby's round 1 performance did make it look like he deboosted, but it was hard to argue that after he beat Sonic. Maybe it just means that Sonic is really really pathetic though and Kirby did deboost after all.

When I said that Kirby was on the rise, I was principally referring to how he improved every year from 2002 to 2005, absorbing the strength of the character who'd beaten him the previous year. Also, he's clearly a character favored by the younger generation of Nintendo fans, and you can see this by how he went even in the ASV with Bowser and Luigi after losing the first part of the poll by a few thousand votes. In 5 more years, I think Kirby will be the #4 Nintendo character, at least unless Ocelot got a huge MGS4 boost that was covered up by 4-ways and Red is #4 after all (it's hard to let go...).
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 1/19/2010 11:01:34 PM | message detail
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/19/2010 11:02:03 PM | message detail
I think Kirby has a good ASV because he gets a lot of his strength from Smash.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/19/2010 11:02:39 PM | message detail

From: ZenOfThunder | #234
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BELIEVE


Knuckles with 62%

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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/19/2010 11:03:07 PM | message detail
36.7% hour for Lightning. I wonder if she can get a 40% hour.
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/19/2010 11:03:20 PM | message detail
Exactly. SSBM is representative of the Gamecube generation of Nintendo, and SSBB is to a (much) lesser degree representative of current gen Nintendo.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/19/2010 11:03:25 PM | message detail

From: ZenOfThunder | #234
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BELIEVE


This MUST happen
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 1/19/2010 11:03:59 PM | message detail
Except its still crazy to think Sonic would lose to a character from his own series.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/19/2010 11:04:45 PM | message detail

From: Shoenin_Kakashi | #240
Except its still crazy to think Sonic would lose to a character from his own series.


As crazy as thinking Magus would lose to KNUCKLES when he was supposed to be able to challenge Sonic?

Is it THAT crazy?

Because I'm feelin' a little crazy!
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/19/2010 11:04:54 PM | message detail
People won't be thinking it once Knuckles gets embarassed in 10 hours.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/19/2010 11:05:27 PM | message detail

From: Shoenin_Kakashi | #240
Except its still crazy to think Sonic would lose to a character from his own series.


http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1768

And one can argue that Sonic and Knux are closer in strength to begin with.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/19/2010 11:06:26 PM | message detail
Can we get a gangster Knuckles pic? That'd be the ****.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/19/2010 11:06:28 PM | message detail
Unfortunately Knuckles probably goes and puts up 55% against Cecil or something and ends all our fun.

Until then...!

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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/19/2010 11:07:26 PM | message detail
My Oracle prediction has Knuckles getting a higher percentage on Cecil than Sonic has on Lightning right now.

AND I AIN'T CHANGIN'!
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/19/2010 11:08:02 PM | message detail
I'm fully expecting a knux doubling on Cecil. Dude is very weak and lol old square day vote
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/19/2010 11:08:59 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #246
My Oracle prediction has Knuckles getting a higher percentage on Cecil than Sonic has on Lightning right now.

AND I AIN'T CHANGIN'!


http://images.absoluteanime.com/sonic_x/knuckles.jpg
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HaRRicH | Posted 1/19/2010 11:11:10 PM | message detail
Good call on the werehog-art, Zen...! The further removed from old-Sonic, the better.


You know what the best pic possible for the match would be though, just to be classic:

http://www.pwned.com/gamecovers/segagenesis/e928047249e7e54398b417aee38cabea-Sonic___Knuckles.jpg

It even fits the headshot-theme!
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/19/2010 11:13:15 PM | message detail
I think I'll get in on the 'sabotage Sonic' fun.

http://media.moddb.com/images/members/1/239/238068/Werehog1.png
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s15/Cheesedork_bucket/Sonic/chara_werehog.gif
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/7104/werehogsonicoc6.jpg

...I feel like a kid at a candy store.

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