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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 786
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/19/2010 12:23:02 PM | message detail |
Well
uhhh you see, California is one of the country's biggest MMA havens,
and everyone knows Boss can armbar a grizzly bear, so perhaps Drake has
no chance even there. --- Yoblazer: http://i38.tinypic.com/2s024p4.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
KamikazePotato | Posted 1/19/2010 12:23:50 PM | message detail |
Drake can always turn to that wacky Wyoming for support! http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3737®ion=USXWY oh --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
xp1337 | Posted 1/19/2010 12:24:08 PM | message detail |
Please, stop pretending that losing is enough to discount any progress a character has made strength wise. 'k. Except what I meant was that given where Drake was starting, I wasn't confident any boost, and I was sure he'd certainly get some kind of one, was going to be enough to beat even The Boss, in spite of that not generally being so much of a challenge. If I got burned on that logic, so be it. I didn't expect the same entity that went and got blown out by CATS, but I also couldn't see how exactly Drake was going to get that big a boost off of a game, even if GotY. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? SC2k6 (190/240) 99.4958 Percentile |
HaRRicH | Posted 1/19/2010 12:24:47 PM | message detail |
Okay,
Drake's done. The percentage should look better by the end of this and
it's clear Uncharted 2 did a lot for him, but not enough to beat The
Boss (yay). This brings up her next match with WCC...does she have a
good chance to advance again? WCC/Sandal didn't have a high vote total
and I imagine The Boss/Drake could beat Sandal down hard too. --- T E A M C H O C O L A T E http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7355/64590879.png |
KamikazePotato | Posted 1/19/2010 12:25:00 PM | message detail |
The Boss is better than people give her credit for. I would take her to beat Ocelot and Raiden fairly easily. --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/19/2010 12:27:13 PM | message detail |
Maybe
she beats Raiden because there's no question who the MGS fanbase
favors, but she's never proven she can contend with Ocelot. Ocelot is
about 50/50 with Jill, and Boss just isn't at that level. --- Yoblazer: http://i38.tinypic.com/2s024p4.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
Dark_Spiral | Posted 1/19/2010 12:27:18 PM | message detail |
The Boss will beat WCC, but that'll be as far as she goes, imo |
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 1/19/2010 12:28:03 PM | message detail |
Prediction percentage for this match should probably be pretty miserable, no? --- If you're seeing this sig, I'm not on my computer! |
HaRRicH | Posted 1/19/2010 12:29:33 PM | message detail |
I
know the vote-in suggests it, but I'd still have a hard time taking her
over Raiden. MGS2-lead and made to be a lot more bad-ass in MGS4 versus
respectable rival in MGS3...I mean, it'd probably happen in a match,
but that still seems weird to me. The Boss's cooler in MGS3 than Revolver in the first three games combined though (can't say anything about MGS4). The love for Revolver's always been weird to me -- he's okay, but come on. Volgin kicked his ass in MGS3 and that's where people seem to go craziest for him...and yeah, I figure I'll catch hell for that. --- T E A M C H O C O L A T E http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7355/64590879.png |
DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 1/19/2010 12:31:21 PM | message detail |
We
should be in ASV territory now and it's not helping Drake in any way.
ASV typically starts by 2:30-3:00 PM. If The Boss loses I will be
really shocked. --- "You guys have electricity? How do you manage that?" "We have 2 giant hamsters running on a massive wheel in our secret underground cave..." |
Lucid Faia | Posted 1/19/2010 12:31:33 PM | message detail |
1) I went 5 for 8 in this division. I didn't have any of the wrong picks advancing further, but damn. 2) The Boss is one of the most underrated characters in history. Wonderful to see her winning. --- The Ohio State Buckeyes Our honor defend, we will fight to the end |
KamikazePotato | Posted 1/19/2010 12:31:43 PM | message detail |
I love the MGS series but I've never been a big fan of Ocelot. Snake, Raiden, Boss are all awesome. Ocelot...eh. --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 1/19/2010 12:32:36 PM | message detail |
From: HaRRicH | #109 Revolver just exudes "cool". Young Ocelot was freaking hilarious in MGS3... and he's an essential character in MGS4. I'd take him over The Boss in a heartbeat. --- "You guys have electricity? How do you manage that?" "We have 2 giant hamsters running on a massive wheel in our secret underground cave..." |
Dark_Spiral | Posted 1/19/2010 12:33:06 PM | message detail |
Yeah,
I'm 7/8 in this bracket, but the one I missed won't advance further and
I doubt someone's going to have a perfect bracket out of all 127 matches |
Dark_Spiral | Posted 1/19/2010 12:34:51 PM | message detail |
What I want to see is the MMX and Red match |
MarioSuperstar | Posted 1/19/2010 12:34:59 PM | message detail |
I
don't think The Boss would beat Ocelot either. He's actually in all 3
(4?) games, while I think The Boss is only in one. Ocelot is a lot more
widespread, and The Boss has never really proven to be around Ocelot's
level, ever. Not impossible, but I wouldn't bet on it. --- *is Dranze* Krahen Prophet did a fatality. |
charmander6000 | Posted 1/19/2010 12:35:46 PM | message detail |
If anybody is wondering The Boss would defeat Nathan Drake 80/20 if they were constant in 2007/2008. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 3/6 - Today's Winners: WCC and The Boss |
KamikazePotato | Posted 1/19/2010 12:35:57 PM | message detail |
Man, Boss' result today is more impressive than anything Ocelot has done...ever. --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 1/19/2010 12:36:02 PM | message detail |
I'm 7/8 as well, only mistake was Ocelot who was a half hour from winning his match so I have no regrets. I took The Boss > WCC in round 2 though.. not sure about that anymore. I dunno if The Boss would beat Sandal with 78%. We'll see what happens in a month. --- "You guys have electricity? How do you manage that?" "We have 2 giant hamsters running on a massive wheel in our secret underground cave..." |
charmander6000 | Posted 1/19/2010 12:36:20 PM | message detail |
Also CATS didn't double Nathan He tripled him. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 3/6 - Today's Winners: WCC and The Boss |
KamikazePotato | Posted 1/19/2010 12:37:46 PM | message detail |
To
me Ocelot seems like one of those people continuously make excuses for,
like the entire cats of FFVI. "He's so cool!" "The fanbase loves him!"
"He's been in every game!" And then it never pans out. Give me Boss over that loser. --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
MarioSuperstar | Posted 1/19/2010 12:37:55 PM | message detail |
Man, Boss' result today is more impressive than anything Ocelot has done...ever. But we don't know where Nathan Drake is. --- *is Dranze* Krahen Prophet did a fatality. |
Zenithian Legend | Posted 1/19/2010 12:38:05 PM | message detail |
The Boss will beat WCC, but that'll be as far as she goes, imo Ha, The Boss is gonna get crushed by WCC, 60/40 at best. --- ~Dammit the Karma Boost blasted me over 3000, no milestone post for me. |
Karma Hunter | Posted 1/19/2010 12:38:38 PM | message detail |
The love for Revolver's always been weird to me -- he's okay, but come on. Volgin kicked his ass in MGS3 Man what are you talking about http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxG47pga9gg 1:30 to 2:35 top tier Volginating Man, Boss' result today is more impressive than anything Ocelot has done...ever. Deluded. Look at The Boss and Jill within the same division in 2006. Ocelot's more than a step above her. --- turnturnturn your brain in http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/020/b/f/Ariel_by_lolita_art.jpg |
KamikazePotato | Posted 1/19/2010 12:39:16 PM | message detail |
2006 Female Division is trash for any sort of stats. Lots of weird results in there. --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
Dark_Spiral | Posted 1/19/2010 12:39:57 PM | message detail |
Ha, The Boss is gonna get crushed by WCC, 60/40 at best. The only joke I can see being a threat is missingno, WCC? It got it's round, now it's time for the Boss to stomp it and move on, imo |
DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 1/19/2010 12:40:51 PM | message detail |
I think Ocelot will turn out more impressive in the stats this year than the Boss. --- "You guys have electricity? How do you manage that?" "We have 2 giant hamsters running on a massive wheel in our secret underground cave..." |
Team Rocket Elite | Posted 1/19/2010 12:41:32 PM | message detail |
If anybody is wondering The Boss would defeat Nathan Drake 80/20 if they were constant in 2007/2008 http://thengamer.com/xstats/?name1=Gordon Freeman&year1=2002c&name2=Gordon Freeman&year2=2006c Gordon Freeman (2002c) VS Gordon Freeman (2006c) Gordon Freeman has a strength of 11.31. Gordon Freeman has a strength of 25.36. Gordon Freeman wins with 77.70% of the vote! A win of 59,477 with 107,355 total votes cast. It's not too far away from Gordon's boost. --- "Those whose memories fade seek to carve them in their hearts..." "All dreams are but another reality. Never forget..." |
KamikazePotato | Posted 1/19/2010 12:41:35 PM | message detail |
Given that Boss is on the Luigi side of the division heading into Link, that's guaranteed. --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
charmander6000 | Posted 1/19/2010 12:42:09 PM | message detail |
I think Ocelot will turn out more impressive in the stats this year than the Boss. He better, with Link/Luigi and all. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 3/6 - Today's Winners: WCC and The Boss |
Karma Hunter | Posted 1/19/2010 12:42:38 PM | message detail |
2006 Female Division is trash for any sort of stats. Lots of weird results in there. Because of what happened in later rounds in other divisions. The Tifa eightpack taken on its own is solid. Certainly more than a completely unsubstantiated claim that beating this completely unknown quantity today warrants taking over Ocelot. It doesn't hold up in direct strength or using interfanbase preference. It's like arguing Raiden could stand up to BB all over again. --- turnturnturn your brain in http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/020/b/f/Ariel_by_lolita_art.jpg |
Karma Hunter | Posted 1/19/2010 12:43:25 PM | message detail |
err, *intrafanbase --- turnturnturn your brain in http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/020/b/f/Ariel_by_lolita_art.jpg |
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 1/19/2010 12:44:18 PM | message detail |
It's like arguing Raiden could stand up to BB all over again. In a perfect world. --- If you're seeing this sig, I'm not on my computer! |
KamikazePotato | Posted 1/19/2010 12:44:43 PM | message detail |
Big Boss is directly stronger than Raiden these days. Bad example. And no, that eightpack wasn't solid. Tifa, Yuna, Zelda, and others overpowered quite a bit that year in pretty much all of their matches. It's like considering what Bowser/Ganondorf did in the Villains Contest to be applicable. --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
charmander6000 | Posted 1/19/2010 12:46:41 PM | message detail |
The Boss went from 25% on Tifa to 30% on Vincent, then again that's female bracket vs. four-ways. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 3/6 - Today's Winners: WCC and The Boss |
ZFS | Posted 1/19/2010 12:46:46 PM | message detail |
Ah,
sucks that Drake couldn't pull it off. I figured he'd be the more
popular character these days. Well, at least I've got WCC in round 3! --- wheresoever you go, go with all your heart |
MarioSuperstar | Posted 1/19/2010 12:46:59 PM | message detail |
It
doesn't really matter though because unless you think Tifa 'changed
strength' between facing Peach and The Boss, The Boss really doesn't
come close. Tifa would have to change drastically (for whatever reason)
for it to even be 50/50. Then considering the fact that Tails is
nowhere near Jill ANYWAY, and I still take Ocelot even disregarding the
Female bracket completely. Seeing Shadow today tells me how BAD Tails
could possibly be. --- *is Dranze* Krahen Prophet did a fatality. |
Karma Hunter | Posted 1/19/2010 12:48:58 PM | message detail |
Big Boss is directly stronger than Raiden these days. Bad example. Only if you lack reading comprehension. I meant exactly that - Ocelot is directly stronger, and he's stronger within the fanbase. There's no two ways about it, really, and you haven't provided a shred of evidence otherwise. And no, that eightpack wasn't solid. Tifa, Yuna, Zelda, and others overpowered quite a bit that year in pretty much all of their matches. It's like considering what Bowser/Ganondorf did in the Villains Contest to be applicable. Tifa has one overperformance - Samus. Everything else that she did was either pretty much on point or considered to be an underperformance (with the notable exception of The Boss match. which is telling.). More importantly, using the same analogy everything that Bowser and Ganondorf did in the Villains Contest was largely in the same vein. Bowser let Ocelot overperform on him, Ganondorf got a bigger chunk bitten out of him from Diablo than was warranted. Only because of their final matches with Sephiroth do they lay any claim to overrating as a whole. You can't wave away the Tifa division when it's isolated from everything else. There's nothing to mismanage on. --- turnturnturn your brain in http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/020/b/f/Ariel_by_lolita_art.jpg |
KamikazePotato | Posted 1/19/2010 12:51:46 PM | message detail |
Except I think The Boss is stronger directly outside the fanbase. Inside the fanbase is debatable. And I don't really need to provide proof, honestly, nor can I. Our stats from 4 years ago are trash. At this point I'm working on gut instinct - doesn't make for a good argument tool, but I've got a perfect division so far! I realize it's not the popular pick or whatever, but denying any possibility of it is silly. Ocelot lives to underperform, Boss does the opposite. --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
MarioSuperstar | Posted 1/19/2010 12:53:30 PM | message detail |
The only reason Ocelot underperforms more is because he's been in more matches. --- *is Dranze* Krahen Prophet did a fatality. |
KamikazePotato | Posted 1/19/2010 12:54:02 PM | message detail |
And he's underperformed in all but 1 of them. --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
Masato_Tanaka | Posted 1/19/2010 12:54:44 PM | message detail |
Well,
so far Drake and Magus are the only two red marks on my bracket. I
guess my fanboism towards CT and Uncharted 2 kind of damned me there.
No biggie though. --- Elephant Talk: A New Kind Of Music Blog! http://elephantmusictalk.blogspot.com/ |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/19/2010 12:56:53 PM | message detail |
Spoilers http://i47.tinypic.com/k2bmo7.jpg --- Yoblazer: http://i32.tinypic.com/zlf1w7.gif Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
ZFS | Posted 1/19/2010 12:56:53 PM | message detail |
Ocelot
beats The Boss both directly and indirectly. There's not real argument
there, even with Ocelot's bad track record. Beating Celes, going even
with Tails, and scrapping by Nathan Drake does not make you hot stuff. --- wheresoever you go, go with all your heart |
Karma Hunter | Posted 1/19/2010 12:57:09 PM | message detail |
Wily, Bowser, Jill 2k7, and Red this year are all signs of clear overperformances from Ocelot. --- turnturnturn your brain in http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/020/b/f/Ariel_by_lolita_art.jpg |
charmander6000 | Posted 1/19/2010 12:57:31 PM | message detail |
Ocelot's opponents... Nemesis Dr. Wily Bowser Pac-Man Cloud/Jill/Zolom Cloud/Fenix/Kefka Kratos/Jill/Heavy Pokemon Trainer Red Ocelot underperformed against Nemesis, Pac-Man and Kratos/Jill/Heavy. Everything else he either surprised in or did as expected. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 3/6 - Today's Winners: WCC and The Boss |
KamikazePotato | Posted 1/19/2010 12:58:13 PM | message detail |
Wily and Bowser were normal, I guess. Jill was his one good match. Red? apparently you didn't see the Crew ! --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
MarioSuperstar | Posted 1/19/2010 12:58:35 PM | message detail |
Yeah, it's not like he's Kefka or anything. --- *is Dranze* Krahen Prophet did a fatality. |
KamikazePotato | Posted 1/19/2010 12:58:52 PM | message detail |
Although for Red I guess I could say 'choked' instead of 'underperformed'. --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
KamikazePotato | Posted 1/19/2010 12:59:13 PM | message detail |
Kefka is in a league of bad all his own. --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |