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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 786

PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/19/2010 12:23:02 PM | message detail
Well uhhh you see, California is one of the country's biggest MMA havens, and everyone knows Boss can armbar a grizzly bear, so perhaps Drake has no chance even there.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/19/2010 12:23:50 PM | message detail
Drake can always turn to that wacky Wyoming for support!

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3737&region=USXWY

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xp1337 | Posted 1/19/2010 12:24:08 PM | message detail
Please, stop pretending that losing is enough to discount any progress a character has made strength wise.

'k.

Except what I meant was that given where Drake was starting, I wasn't confident any boost, and I was sure he'd certainly get some kind of one, was going to be enough to beat even The Boss, in spite of that not generally being so much of a challenge.

If I got burned on that logic, so be it. I didn't expect the same entity that went and got blown out by CATS, but I also couldn't see how exactly Drake was going to get that big a boost off of a game, even if GotY.
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HaRRicH | Posted 1/19/2010 12:24:47 PM | message detail
Okay, Drake's done. The percentage should look better by the end of this and it's clear Uncharted 2 did a lot for him, but not enough to beat The Boss (yay). This brings up her next match with WCC...does she have a good chance to advance again? WCC/Sandal didn't have a high vote total and I imagine The Boss/Drake could beat Sandal down hard too.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/19/2010 12:25:00 PM | message detail
The Boss is better than people give her credit for. I would take her to beat Ocelot and Raiden fairly easily.

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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/19/2010 12:27:13 PM | message detail
Maybe she beats Raiden because there's no question who the MGS fanbase favors, but she's never proven she can contend with Ocelot. Ocelot is about 50/50 with Jill, and Boss just isn't at that level.
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Dark_Spiral | Posted 1/19/2010 12:27:18 PM | message detail
The Boss will beat WCC, but that'll be as far as she goes, imo
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 1/19/2010 12:28:03 PM | message detail
Prediction percentage for this match should probably be pretty miserable, no?
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HaRRicH | Posted 1/19/2010 12:29:33 PM | message detail
I know the vote-in suggests it, but I'd still have a hard time taking her over Raiden. MGS2-lead and made to be a lot more bad-ass in MGS4 versus respectable rival in MGS3...I mean, it'd probably happen in a match, but that still seems weird to me.

The Boss's cooler in MGS3 than Revolver in the first three games combined though (can't say anything about MGS4). The love for Revolver's always been weird to me -- he's okay, but come on. Volgin kicked his ass in MGS3 and that's where people seem to go craziest for him...and yeah, I figure I'll catch hell for that.
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DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 1/19/2010 12:31:21 PM | message detail
We should be in ASV territory now and it's not helping Drake in any way. ASV typically starts by 2:30-3:00 PM. If The Boss loses I will be really shocked.
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Lucid Faia | Posted 1/19/2010 12:31:33 PM | message detail
1) I went 5 for 8 in this division. I didn't have any of the wrong picks advancing further, but damn.

2) The Boss is one of the most underrated characters in history. Wonderful to see her winning.

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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/19/2010 12:31:43 PM | message detail
I love the MGS series but I've never been a big fan of Ocelot. Snake, Raiden, Boss are all awesome. Ocelot...eh.

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DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 1/19/2010 12:32:36 PM | message detail

From: HaRRicH | #109
I know the vote-in suggests it, but I'd still have a hard time taking her over Raiden. MGS2-lead and made to be a lot more bad-ass in MGS4 versus respectable rival in MGS3...I mean, it'd probably happen in a match, but that still seems weird to me.

The Boss's cooler in MGS3 than Revolver in the first three games combined though (can't say anything about MGS4). The love for Revolver's always been weird to me -- he's okay, but come on. Volgin kicked his ass in MGS3 and that's where people seem to go craziest for him...and yeah, I figure I'll catch hell for that.


Revolver just exudes "cool". Young Ocelot was freaking hilarious in MGS3... and he's an essential character in MGS4.

I'd take him over The Boss in a heartbeat.
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Dark_Spiral | Posted 1/19/2010 12:33:06 PM | message detail
Yeah, I'm 7/8 in this bracket, but the one I missed won't advance further and I doubt someone's going to have a perfect bracket out of all 127 matches
Dark_Spiral | Posted 1/19/2010 12:34:51 PM | message detail
What I want to see is the MMX and Red match
MarioSuperstar | Posted 1/19/2010 12:34:59 PM | message detail
I don't think The Boss would beat Ocelot either. He's actually in all 3 (4?) games, while I think The Boss is only in one. Ocelot is a lot more widespread, and The Boss has never really proven to be around Ocelot's level, ever.

Not impossible, but I wouldn't bet on it.
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charmander6000 | Posted 1/19/2010 12:35:46 PM | message detail
If anybody is wondering The Boss would defeat Nathan Drake 80/20 if they were constant in 2007/2008.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/19/2010 12:35:57 PM | message detail
Man, Boss' result today is more impressive than anything Ocelot has done...ever.

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DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 1/19/2010 12:36:02 PM | message detail
I'm 7/8 as well, only mistake was Ocelot who was a half hour from winning his match so I have no regrets.

I took The Boss > WCC in round 2 though.. not sure about that anymore. I dunno if The Boss would beat Sandal with 78%. We'll see what happens in a month.
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charmander6000 | Posted 1/19/2010 12:36:20 PM | message detail
Also CATS didn't double Nathan

He tripled him.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/19/2010 12:37:46 PM | message detail
To me Ocelot seems like one of those people continuously make excuses for, like the entire cats of FFVI. "He's so cool!" "The fanbase loves him!" "He's been in every game!"

And then it never pans out. Give me Boss over that loser.

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MarioSuperstar | Posted 1/19/2010 12:37:55 PM | message detail
Man, Boss' result today is more impressive than anything Ocelot has done...ever.

But we don't know where Nathan Drake is.
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Zenithian Legend | Posted 1/19/2010 12:38:05 PM | message detail
The Boss will beat WCC, but that'll be as far as she goes, imo

Ha, The Boss is gonna get crushed by WCC, 60/40 at best.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 1/19/2010 12:38:38 PM | message detail
The love for Revolver's always been weird to me -- he's okay, but come on. Volgin kicked his ass in MGS3

Man what are you talking about http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxG47pga9gg 1:30 to 2:35 top tier Volginating

Man, Boss' result today is more impressive than anything Ocelot has done...ever.

Deluded. Look at The Boss and Jill within the same division in 2006. Ocelot's more than a step above her.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/19/2010 12:39:16 PM | message detail
2006 Female Division is trash for any sort of stats. Lots of weird results in there.

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Dark_Spiral | Posted 1/19/2010 12:39:57 PM | message detail
Ha, The Boss is gonna get crushed by WCC, 60/40 at best.

The only joke I can see being a threat is missingno, WCC? It got it's round, now it's time for the Boss to stomp it and move on, imo
DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 1/19/2010 12:40:51 PM | message detail
I think Ocelot will turn out more impressive in the stats this year than the Boss.
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Team Rocket Elite | Posted 1/19/2010 12:41:32 PM | message detail
If anybody is wondering The Boss would defeat Nathan Drake 80/20 if they were constant in 2007/2008

http://thengamer.com/xstats/?name1=Gordon Freeman&year1=2002c&name2=Gordon Freeman&year2=2006c

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Gordon Freeman has a strength of 11.31.
Gordon Freeman has a strength of 25.36.

Gordon Freeman wins with 77.70% of the vote!
A win of 59,477 with 107,355 total votes cast.

It's not too far away from Gordon's boost.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/19/2010 12:41:35 PM | message detail
Given that Boss is on the Luigi side of the division heading into Link, that's guaranteed.

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charmander6000 | Posted 1/19/2010 12:42:09 PM | message detail
I think Ocelot will turn out more impressive in the stats this year than the Boss.

He better, with Link/Luigi and all.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 1/19/2010 12:42:38 PM | message detail
2006 Female Division is trash for any sort of stats. Lots of weird results in there.

Because of what happened in later rounds in other divisions. The Tifa eightpack taken on its own is solid. Certainly more than a completely unsubstantiated claim that beating this completely unknown quantity today warrants taking over Ocelot.

It doesn't hold up in direct strength or using interfanbase preference. It's like arguing Raiden could stand up to BB all over again.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 1/19/2010 12:43:25 PM | message detail
err, *intrafanbase
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 1/19/2010 12:44:18 PM | message detail
It's like arguing Raiden could stand up to BB all over again.

In a perfect world.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/19/2010 12:44:43 PM | message detail
Big Boss is directly stronger than Raiden these days. Bad example.

And no, that eightpack wasn't solid. Tifa, Yuna, Zelda, and others overpowered quite a bit that year in pretty much all of their matches. It's like considering what Bowser/Ganondorf did in the Villains Contest to be applicable.

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charmander6000 | Posted 1/19/2010 12:46:41 PM | message detail
The Boss went from 25% on Tifa to 30% on Vincent, then again that's female bracket vs. four-ways.
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ZFS | Posted 1/19/2010 12:46:46 PM | message detail
Ah, sucks that Drake couldn't pull it off. I figured he'd be the more popular character these days. Well, at least I've got WCC in round 3!

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MarioSuperstar | Posted 1/19/2010 12:46:59 PM | message detail
It doesn't really matter though because unless you think Tifa 'changed strength' between facing Peach and The Boss, The Boss really doesn't come close. Tifa would have to change drastically (for whatever reason) for it to even be 50/50. Then considering the fact that Tails is nowhere near Jill ANYWAY, and I still take Ocelot even disregarding the Female bracket completely. Seeing Shadow today tells me how BAD Tails could possibly be.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 1/19/2010 12:48:58 PM | message detail
Big Boss is directly stronger than Raiden these days. Bad example.

Only if you lack reading comprehension. I meant exactly that - Ocelot is directly stronger, and he's stronger within the fanbase. There's no two ways about it, really, and you haven't provided a shred of evidence otherwise.

And no, that eightpack wasn't solid. Tifa, Yuna, Zelda, and others overpowered quite a bit that year in pretty much all of their matches. It's like considering what Bowser/Ganondorf did in the Villains Contest to be applicable.

Tifa has one overperformance - Samus. Everything else that she did was either pretty much on point or considered to be an underperformance (with the notable exception of The Boss match. which is telling.). More importantly, using the same analogy everything that Bowser and Ganondorf did in the Villains Contest was largely in the same vein. Bowser let Ocelot overperform on him, Ganondorf got a bigger chunk bitten out of him from Diablo than was warranted. Only because of their final matches with Sephiroth do they lay any claim to overrating as a whole.

You can't wave away the Tifa division when it's isolated from everything else. There's nothing to mismanage on.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/19/2010 12:51:46 PM | message detail
Except I think The Boss is stronger directly outside the fanbase. Inside the fanbase is debatable.

And I don't really need to provide proof, honestly, nor can I. Our stats from 4 years ago are trash. At this point I'm working on gut instinct - doesn't make for a good argument tool, but I've got a perfect division so far!

I realize it's not the popular pick or whatever, but denying any possibility of it is silly. Ocelot lives to underperform, Boss does the opposite.

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MarioSuperstar | Posted 1/19/2010 12:53:30 PM | message detail
The only reason Ocelot underperforms more is because he's been in more matches.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/19/2010 12:54:02 PM | message detail
And he's underperformed in all but 1 of them.

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Masato_Tanaka | Posted 1/19/2010 12:54:44 PM | message detail
Well, so far Drake and Magus are the only two red marks on my bracket. I guess my fanboism towards CT and Uncharted 2 kind of damned me there. No biggie though.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/19/2010 12:56:53 PM | message detail
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ZFS | Posted 1/19/2010 12:56:53 PM | message detail
Ocelot beats The Boss both directly and indirectly. There's not real argument there, even with Ocelot's bad track record. Beating Celes, going even with Tails, and scrapping by Nathan Drake does not make you hot stuff.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 1/19/2010 12:57:09 PM | message detail
Wily, Bowser, Jill 2k7, and Red this year are all signs of clear overperformances from Ocelot.
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charmander6000 | Posted 1/19/2010 12:57:31 PM | message detail
Ocelot's opponents...

Nemesis
Dr. Wily
Bowser
Pac-Man
Cloud/Jill/Zolom
Cloud/Fenix/Kefka
Kratos/Jill/Heavy
Pokemon Trainer Red

Ocelot underperformed against Nemesis, Pac-Man and Kratos/Jill/Heavy. Everything else he either surprised in or did as expected.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/19/2010 12:58:13 PM | message detail
Wily and Bowser were normal, I guess.

Jill was his one good match.

Red? apparently you didn't see the Crew !

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MarioSuperstar | Posted 1/19/2010 12:58:35 PM | message detail
Yeah, it's not like he's Kefka or anything.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/19/2010 12:58:52 PM | message detail
Although for Red I guess I could say 'choked' instead of 'underperformed'.

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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/19/2010 12:59:13 PM | message detail
Kefka is in a league of bad all his own.

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