GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 786
UltimaterializerX | Posted 1/19/2010 9:57:46 AM | message detail |
WHAT A THRILL...... ~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~ www.gamefaqscontests.com ~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~ http://board8.wikia.com/ ~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~ http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/ http://thengamer.com/xstats http://thengamer.com/stats ~*Character Contest Histories (Thanks to Raven 2 for the info transfer)*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Contest_Histories ~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~ A = Strongest Character B = Character Weaker than A C = Character Weaker than B To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA ~*All the match pics*~ http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/index.php ~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages ~*Poll Start Times*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Character_Battle_8_Poll_Start_Times ~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~ SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them. X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process. Noble Nine - Link, Cloud, Sephiroth, Mario, Crono, Solid Snake, Sonic, Samus and Mega Man. Near-Elite - The Squall, Auron, Tifa, Vincent, Zelda, Kirby, etc group that has come at, near or even ahead of Noble Nine characters in the past. LFF (Leech Fanbase Factor) - A common issue in four-way polls, where two entrants of the same fanbase leech one another's strength and make each other weaker. This is the main factor currently discussed in stat topics, since four-ways look like they're here to stay. The earliest example we have of this is Arthas/Diablo leeching each other half to death and letting KOS-MOS sneak into second place back in 2007. SFF still happens now and again, but LFF is just as huge these days. Last Place Factor - A huge issue in four-way contests where an entrant having no expected chance to advance in the poll does far worse than past strength dictates. A lot of these entrants are naturally weak, but a lot of things come along that make little to no sense. A great example is Zero -- he scored 47% on Crono and won several updates, then one round later he gets disproportionally blown out once Link enters the picture. This factor also works in reverse, when an obvious first place game does worse than expected thanks to smart voters helping a game come in second place. The final of 2008 is a good example of this, where Snake stayed even with Link until the day vote and ultimately defeated Cloud. (Credit to red sox 777 and Leonhart4 for the examples) For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything. --- I've been burnt so bad but I still play with fire. Sometimes naked truth is what I don't believe in. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/19/2010 9:58:37 AM | message detail |
Drake couldn't handle THE LADDER --- "I can set you free, mate." "My freedom was forfeit long ago!" |
KamikazePotato | Posted 1/19/2010 9:58:40 AM | message detail |
--- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
ExThaNemesis | Posted 1/19/2010 9:59:24 AM | message detail |
****ing
Uncharted toolboxes. I hate you Board 8. I hadn't even given that match
a second look but OH GOD NATHAN IN BEST GAME OF THE YEAR HURRRRRR --- "He scored four at Anfield, he scoooored four!" http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2009/04/arshavincelebrateR_450x300.jpg |
voltch | Posted 1/19/2010 10:28:43 AM | message detail |
The boss just delivered an R.K.O to Nathan, Uncharted 2's melee wasn't so good imo. --- Shakes Fist! |
Kotetsu534 | Posted 1/19/2010 10:30:27 AM | message detail |
Y'know, Drake seems to be hanging on in there, just a bit too well for my liking! --- Currently Playing: Final Fantasy Tactics, Ocarina of Time |
Me_Pie_Three | Posted 1/19/2010 10:30:49 AM | message detail |
It makes sense, PS3 exclusive, etc. --- I keep on trying 'til I run out of cake Steam ID: Me_Pie_Three |
ffmasterjose | Posted 1/19/2010 10:33:40 AM | message detail |
Drake is soft as a Care Bear. --- 5/7 points - The Great GameFAQs Character Battle VIII NP: Weighted Companion Cube > Sandal | The Boss > Nathan Drake |
charmander6000 | Posted 1/19/2010 10:42:41 AM | message detail |
I
think that would be possible if Lightning is at least above the fodder
line. We all thought Thrall was high end fodder and Link couldn't even
break 80% on him. With how much weaker Sonic is compared to Link,
Lightning would have to be slightly above Thrall to have a chance at
breaking 30%. I don't think hype can get Lightning that high. Even Brawl hype struggled to do that. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 3/6 - Today's Winners: WCC and The Boss |
Lightslayer987 | Posted 1/19/2010 10:42:43 AM | message detail |
this is just pathetic --- http://i48.tinypic.com/24ytvz8.png Albion Hero is the Cream of Loli Fanboyism |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/19/2010 10:42:54 AM | message detail |
Drake is all casual appeal. No one is even upset that he's losing; they're upset that they're losing a point or three. --- Yoblazer: http://i38.tinypic.com/2s024p4.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
HaRRicH | Posted 1/19/2010 10:43:17 AM | message detail |
I
still want to see the ASV start before calling this. This is the first
school-day we've had and it's been mentioned the vote total has been a
lot lower thus far for this match than usual (it was for WCC/Sandal
earlier today, too), plus we're entering the ASV with three hours
behind us instead of fifteen...nothing's nearly as established as it
used to be at this point. The Boss is looking good to win it, but if Drake wins the ASV then he's still competitive. It wouldn't take too big of a big swing to do that, though The Boss looks to be making it harder and harder for him right now. --- T E A M C H O C O L A T E http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7355/64590879.png |
Karma Hunter | Posted 1/19/2010 10:43:18 AM | message detail |
Patience,
everyone. 9 hours averaged at 51% is still more than enough for Drake
to turn this around. 9 hours averaged at 52% gives him an easy victory. I mean I just don't understand why you would do this. :( --- turnturnturn your brain in http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/020/b/f/Ariel_by_lolita_art.jpg |
red sox 777 | Posted 1/19/2010 10:43:42 AM | message detail |
Well, I've got to go, and will be missing the start of the ASV. Hopefully when I get back the comeback will be in full swing. --- 6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno 'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared.... |
KamikazePotato | Posted 1/19/2010 10:44:01 AM | message detail |
Why would you post that KH Now you're doing it --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
charmander6000 | Posted 1/19/2010 10:44:09 AM | message detail |
****ing
Uncharted toolboxes. I hate you Board 8. I hadn't even given that match
a second look but OH GOD NATHAN IN BEST GAME OF THE YEAR HURRRRRR Yup because Tommy Vercetti, Carl Johnson, Midna, Balthier and every "Brawl only" characters did so well. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 3/6 - Today's Winners: WCC and The Boss |
Karma Hunter | Posted 1/19/2010 10:44:46 AM | message detail |
You're right. Hold on brb while I end myself :(:(:( --- turnturnturn your brain in http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/020/b/f/Ariel_by_lolita_art.jpg |
KamikazePotato | Posted 1/19/2010 10:44:58 AM | message detail |
And
anyone thinking Drake handily wins the ASV or something really needs to
consider him not winning it at all. He could very easily be worse than
The Boss during that time period. --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
WhatTheDarn | Posted 1/19/2010 10:45:47 AM | message detail |
Boss... you only need one Drake... no... the world... would be better off... without... Drakes... --- "War is no reason to end a friendship." - Solid Snake |
Calintares | Posted 1/19/2010 10:45:48 AM | message detail |
I
was so tempted to change my pick to Nathan when I read through the stat
topics, and I'm so glad I made it my principle not to give in to
temptation. --- Ours is not to reason why, ours is but to do and die. |
red sox 777 | Posted 1/19/2010 10:46:06 AM | message detail |
Yeah,
that's also a possibility, as is the possibility that the ASV is so
diluted by the 12-hour format that not much happens. But it's way too
early to call this one. --- 6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno 'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared.... |
charmander6000 | Posted 1/19/2010 10:46:54 AM | message detail |
And
anyone thinking Drake handily wins the ASV or something really needs to
consider him not winning it at all. He could very easily be worse than
The Boss during that time period. If The Boss continues to rise in percent during the ASV then we should laugh at Nathan's patheticness. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 3/6 - Today's Winners: WCC and The Boss |
-LusterSoldier- | Posted 1/19/2010 10:47:36 AM | message detail |
I don't think hype can get Lightning that high. Even Brawl hype struggled to do that. That makes sense. Though I wonder if Lightning could benefit from receiving votes from FF fans that know she's in an FF game. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as KrahenProphet, Guru Champ! |
Lightslayer987 | Posted 1/19/2010 10:48:42 AM | message detail |
From: red sox 777 | #021 no, its pretty much over. we'll be goin into the asv with a 1000 vote lead or so, and thats a pretty big comeback needed --- http://i48.tinypic.com/24ytvz8.png Albion Hero is the Cream of Loli Fanboyism |
KingBartz | Posted 1/19/2010 10:49:05 AM | message detail |
And
anyone thinking Drake handily wins the ASV or something really needs to
consider him not winning it at all. He could very easily be worse than
The Boss during that time period. With the way that the boss is escalating during these last few updates, I wouldn't be surprised. --- I used to have a good sig. Now my account is only a shadow of its former glory. |
KamikazePotato | Posted 1/19/2010 10:50:38 AM | message detail |
Also, I guess these are the votals we get when we kick off the day match with two night characters! Yikes. --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/19/2010 10:52:11 AM | message detail |
What
were we even arguing for Drake? He was terrible in 2008 and his game
would get crushed by any legit GotY contender (MGS3 would massacre the
Uncharted series). Hell, U2 probably only looked as good as it did
because some people anti-voted MW2 as the obvious winner. It may have
only been like the fourth strongest game of the year in our weakest
gaming year of the decade. Couple that with the fact that Drake just
looks... kinda like a normal guy on the street, and you're gonna get a
really weak character. Of course, I picked Shadow and would have never considered Ammy in a hundred years, so most of us deserve a Boss armbar at this point! --- Yoblazer: http://i38.tinypic.com/2s024p4.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
FFDragon | Posted 1/19/2010 10:55:35 AM | message detail |
From: PartOfYourWorld | Posted: 1/19/2010 1:52:11 PM | #027 Don't even have to go that far. I would never, ever, ever, ever, ever pick someone who lost to CATS. EVER. --- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? [HERO'S PLUNGE] http://img.imgcake.com/wesker.gif |
Karma Hunter | Posted 1/19/2010 10:55:52 AM | message detail |
The only reason I picked Shadow is because I was convinced that the only reason the loser dropped it to Zidane was because Link sapped his casual support... or something. How did borderline fodder look like a top ten contender once upon a time --- turnturnturn your brain in http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/020/b/f/Ariel_by_lolita_art.jpg |
Lightslayer987 | Posted 1/19/2010 10:57:41 AM | message detail |
From: FFDragon | #028 Based on this result, if you dont give drake a boost, boss would easily lose to cats as well! --- http://i48.tinypic.com/24ytvz8.png Albion Hero is the Cream of Loli Fanboyism |
-LusterSoldier- | Posted 1/19/2010 10:58:25 AM | message detail |
Hmm,
a quick look at each of the states shows that Drake seems to be doing
well in the Midwest, but is losing in most of the states everywhere
else. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as KrahenProphet, Guru Champ! |
KingBartz | Posted 1/19/2010 10:59:19 AM | message detail |
No doubt Drake boosted from 2008; however, he went from low fodder to high fodder. --- I used to have a good sig. Now my account is only a shadow of its former glory. |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/19/2010 10:59:22 AM | message detail |
From: Karma Hunter | #029 Eh, that's what I thought as well. It made sense at the time, and I still think there's something to it. Amaterasu would have probably beaten out both Shadow and Zidane if she was the 4th in that poll. --- Yoblazer: http://i38.tinypic.com/2s024p4.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
charmander6000 | Posted 1/19/2010 11:02:09 AM | message detail |
Only Canada can save Drake now. Also did Uncharted 2 come out in South America? --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 3/6 - Today's Winners: WCC and The Boss |
Master Moltar | Posted 1/19/2010 11:02:58 AM | message detail |
go The Boss --- Moltar Status: Bracket: The Boss > Drake (6/7) Contest Analysis Crew Archives: http://thecrew.speedrunwiki.com/ |
FFDragon | Posted 1/19/2010 11:03:14 AM | message detail |
From: Lightslayer987 | Posted: 1/19/2010 1:57:41 PM | #030 And that's why I have her losing to the cube next round! --- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? [HERO'S PLUNGE] http://img.imgcake.com/wesker.gif |
HaRRicH | Posted 1/19/2010 11:04:26 AM | message detail |
Cube >> CATS. --- T E A M C H O C O L A T E http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7355/64590879.png |
KingBartz | Posted 1/19/2010 11:05:21 AM | message detail |
Interesting that missingno has so much support on the leaderboard... i wonder how many brackets have it winning it's match. --- I used to have a good sig. Now my account is only a shadow of its former glory. |
charmander6000 | Posted 1/19/2010 11:06:52 AM | message detail |
Missingno probably got the support because of the vote-in polls. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 3/6 - Today's Winners: WCC and The Boss |
Lightslayer987 | Posted 1/19/2010 11:07:52 AM | message detail |
I
wonder what kinda support Drake will get here with brackets... being a
2 seed + a toss up match anyway, I can see him getting near 70% --- http://i48.tinypic.com/24ytvz8.png Albion Hero is the Cream of Loli Fanboyism |
-LusterSoldier- | Posted 1/19/2010 11:10:35 AM | message detail |
Interesting that missingno has so much support on the leaderboard Very weird. There are 4 Missingno brackets on the leaderboard, compared to only 2 for L-Block and none for Weighted Companion Cube yet. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as KrahenProphet, Guru Champ! |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/19/2010 11:10:44 AM | message detail |
At
this point, I'd be willing to bet money on Liquid Snake, and if you
reopened brackets for a minute, I might even be crazy enough to switch
back to Simon Belmont over Ezio (I believe Ezio will easily be the
weakest of the Drake/Altair/Ezio 2 seeds). --- Yoblazer: http://i38.tinypic.com/2s024p4.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
KamikazePotato | Posted 1/19/2010 11:11:38 AM | message detail |
The last time a 15 Seed upset a heavily favored 2 Seed, it was Master Chief, and the prediction percentage ended up being 20%. --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
Lightslayer987 | Posted 1/19/2010 11:11:38 AM | message detail |
(I believe Ezio will easily be the weakest of the Drake/Altair/Ezio 2 seeds). lol wut --- http://i48.tinypic.com/24ytvz8.png Albion Hero is the Cream of Loli Fanboyism |
paulg235 | Posted 1/19/2010 11:11:47 AM | message detail |
I'd think nothing about it. Last year, we had a perfect having Sandbag by the 2nd division. --- The Gamer In Me My Signature's broken, just like your front door. |
KamikazePotato | Posted 1/19/2010 11:12:04 AM | message detail |
I would take Ezio>Altair fairly easily. --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
charmander6000 | Posted 1/19/2010 11:13:06 AM | message detail |
I
wonder what kinda support Drake will get here with brackets... being a
2 seed + a toss up match anyway, I can see him getting near 70% I have him at 65% right now. However if you want a comparison Ness was favoured to win over Carl Johnson, then again he was a 5 seed in 2005. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 3/6 - Today's Winners: WCC and The Boss |
KingBartz | Posted 1/19/2010 11:14:02 AM | message detail |
23-24%
seems like an accurate prediction for The Boss. Despite being a debated
match on B8, Drake is almost as big casual bait as MC --- I used to have a good sig. Now my account is only a shadow of its former glory. |
The Real Truth | Posted 1/19/2010 11:16:12 AM | message detail |
Glad
I went with my instinct on this one. I just hope that Boss can beat WCC
next round. I don't know how people thought Drake would easily best THE BOSS, when he was sooooo bad before. --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC |
charmander6000 | Posted 1/19/2010 11:16:15 AM | message detail |
The Boss had 68% bracket support against Celes. I don't see Nathan being as casual as Master Chief. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 3/6 - Today's Winners: WCC and The Boss |