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Well, I picked Amaterasu to win in my bracket just because she's looked better (and because I hate Shadow) recently, but her not having a 1 vs. 1 combined with Shadow not really being in a contest since '04 is definetely something to think about. Seeing the arguments of the analysis crew made me think that Shadow would walk away with 52%. How much better does Shadow do if *he* is given the higher seed? In close matches like this seeding may make all the difference.

On today's match...HOW THE FREAKING HAY DID SANDAL GET A FREAKING 10 SEED??? AHEAD OF MEGA MAN X, AND ON PAR WITH SOME WELL ESTABLISHED HIGH MIDCARDERS??? OH MAN, THIS MAKES NO SENSE!!!

Of course, GUYBRUSH THREEPWOOD outseeding a guy who is Samus's equal is probably even worse lol. (and I hate saying "lol" because it's stupid teenspeak, but it seemed appropriate here somehow)

The hell? No-one is Samus' equal. She loses to Clinkeroth/Snake/Mario and beats everyone else.

Also, Guybrush is King amongst characters. To deny this is to not play his games.
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Or at least, not play them properly.

it's Tifa
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Ours is not to reason why, ours is but to do and die.

Pah.

1) Lol ZSS
2) Tifa's a Guy?
3) No.
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I was completely kidding about Tifa being Samus's equal; as a matter of fact I project her to score 55% against Gordon Freeman. Being practically ABSENT ever since getting close to Zero Suit Lincoln (oops, wrong game!) will certainly take her down, as well as FF7 losing its ASV.

On a side note, Portal is coming off of being #4 on Destructoid's list, placing higher than even Resident Evil 4 and Super Mario Galaxy (but hey, the x-stats also project that Portal beats Galaxy!). Hilariously enough, according to Destructoid, the only 3 games from the last decade which should beat Portal according to this are Mother 3, Half-Life 2, and Shadow of the Colossus, 2 of which would LOSE to Portal HERE. Funny world this is.

*On another side note, I mentioned that I own Portal but stupid Steam does not allow me to install it on my computer because my younger brother already did. Um, hooray?*

Amaterasu didn't beat Shadow because of higher seeding. Amaterasu beat Shadow because she's Not Shadow.

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Samus has got to be the most boring character after link, the only debatable match she can have is with Snake and that's it.
But man are votals weak for this match, Im not putting too much faith into the cube yet.
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Shakes Fist!

You know what, you're right. Samus has NEVER been in a (properly) debatable match. Now there was the one time where she beat Sonic by an incredibly narrow margin when nobody expected it, and the other time where she almost lost to Tifa by the 2nd lowest margin separating a Noble Niner from a non-NN (hilariously enough, only SNAKE has come closer to breaking the NN in 1vs.1, and both instances were because of pic factor!), but she has never been in a debatable match at all, minus those stupid times when people thought she could beat Link and Mario.

Just place her against Snake, Crono, or Mega Man in 1-on-1 please (though I would vote for Snake and Sephiroth over Samus, and look at my username!). That's the best we can possibly get. Here she is stuck facing Cloud in the elite eight. Blah (and yes I am definetely voting for Cloud there).

I hate that Tifa has never had a chance to show what she can really do.

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The best match Snake ever had and he still went down big time during the day.

When you get rallied to high heaven in the opening hours of the match, you have nowhere to go but down. Ask L-Block.
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"Hold on a minute! That testimony stinks!"
"Witness! You can't just say 'Hello' and expect us to get anywhere! I want you to testify!"

Samus would beat Megaman or even Crono pretty easily, LMS. I'd love to see Snake/Samus again though.
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6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....

When you get rallied to high heaven in the opening hours of the match, you have nowhere to go but down. Ask L-Block.

Ulti was talking about the semifinal match with Kirby and Sephiroth, not the final with Link and Crono. Kirby was the one who got an absurd rally at the beginning of that match, not Snake. But the thing is........Snake didn't die in the ASV. He had a 600 vote lead at the start of it and we were all convinced Cloud was going to sweep it away in short order, but Snake kept stalling and stalling and Cloud couldn't really get a comeback going until pretty late into the ASV/evening. By then it was too late. The Games Contest also provides evidence that FFVII's ASV has deteriorated further from last year (going even with Chrono Trigger and Final Fantasy VI is terrible).

I agree that a day match is better for Sephiroth though, because he gets more votals to work with, and consequently Snake gets less of an advantage from the 12-hour thing.
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6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....

Agree/Disagree - This match will have to lowest vote total of the contest.

I'm going to say agree since matches like Ratchet/Eddie and Laharl/Neku are day matches.
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Character Battle VIII - 3/6 - Today's Winners: WCC and The Boss

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*have the lowest vote total

need to wake up...
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Character Battle VIII - 3/6 - Today's Winners: WCC and The Boss

Top 25?

1, Link
2. Cloud Strife
3. Sephiroth
4. Mario
5. Samus Aran
6. Solid Snake
7. Sonic the Hedgehog
8. Mega Man
9. Crono
10. Vincent Valentine
11. Ganondorf
12. Auron
13. Squall Leonhart
14. Tifa Lockheart
15. Zelda
16. Luigi
17. Kirby
18. Bowser
19. Sora
20. Yoshi
21. Kratos
22. L-Block
23. Ryu (Street Fighter)
24. Dante
25. Zero

Honorable Mentions: Alucard, Leon Kennedy, Pikachu

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Match VIII: (2) Nathan Drake vs. (15) The Boss

Information

Name: Nathan Drake
Game/Series: Uncharted
Previous Contest: 2008
Performance: 4th in round 1

Name: The Boss
Game/Series: Metal Gear
Previous Contest: 2007
Performance: 3rd in round 1

Analysis

This match by far received the most talk during the GotY poll. Normally 2/15 matches are not suppose to be debatable, but this contest made an exception to a couple of those. The main reason this got the most debate is all of the other new releases either don’t have a character in this contest or people felt that their path is set and the performance of the game wouldn’t make much of a difference. I took The Boss thinking it was an upset though it apparently was the favourite in the BOP, the guru in the other hand is supporting Nathan.

The dumbest reason of why some people think Nathan is weak was comparing his 2008 performance saying that he needed a massive boost. First of all the game wasn’t advertised to death like Uncharted 2 and to Playstation 3 fans it was more of another game that they can choose from. Also at the time the Playstation 3 was still considered to be a joke while now it is comparable to the Xbox360 in terms of ownership. Heck when asked the question of if this was Nathan’s first game, who would win a lot of people said that they would have switched their pick. Sure CATS would have been expected to triple Nathan back in that 2008 match, but in theory CATS would get 100% on a non-existent character yet they were able to boost above him when their game was announced and released. Nathan doesn’t need Uncharted 1 to win.

I don’t know why people were panicking about Nathan Drake’s strength during the GotY poll. It was quite obvious that the game was one of the most popular to be released in 2009, but GotY polls were bad in predicting game’s strength in the games contest so why would it be an indicator for character strength when games not equalling characters has been a popular saying for years. There’s also the problem of new characters getting into the contest right after their new release not performing up to people’s expectations since the game was popular. Vercetti was nowhere near Mega Man, Carl Johnson performed like Jak, and even popular series aren’t fully immune to it as both Midna and Balthier were considered to have been the biggest flops of 2007 and Super Smash Bros. Brawl didn’t exactly destroy the bracket like many expected, though those characters weren’t exactly new. Nathan does have the advantage that most of those characters would probably defeat The Boss in a match, but at the same time 2009 was a weak year for gaming.

So what does The Boss bring to the table exactly? Not much, her only win was against Celes which really only showcased that she is at least high fodder, she did defeat Tails in 2007 though that might not mean as much as it did a few years ago. She was also beaten pretty badly against both Tifa and Vincent, though considering their strength it wasn’t that bad. Since then Metal Gear Solid 4 has come out though I don’t really expect much of a boost from that considering she wasn’t even in the game. The only other information we have on her is the vote-in poll which should never be used seriously though it was pretty interesting that she won over Raiden. Usually the strength within series hierarchy remains intact in these types of polls. Maybe people still have a grudge on Raiden because of Metal Gear Solid 2. Anyway if The Boss is equal to Raiden I’m sure that The Boss would take it rather easily, but I wouldn’t hold my breath.

Despite being a bit shaken by Price’s good performance I still hold faith in The Boss to be able to pull off the win. My biggest reason is that I find Uncharted 2 to be popular because of the game play and graphics and not Nathan’s personality and my prediction of 2009 being a weak year in gaming. Hopefully the match will be as interesting as Red/Ocelot.

charmander6000’s Bracket: The Boss > Nathan Drake

charmander6000’s Prediction: The Boss wins, 50.48% - 49.52%
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Character Battle VIII - 3/6 - Today's Winners: WCC and The Boss

Yes let's please have Samus face Snake instead of Cloud!!!

(though in reality Snake shouldn't lose to a suit of armor. Why he did so in '06 is anyone's guess)

Maybe we should place Gordon Freeman or ZSS against Shadow to see how far he's fallen. Just imagine...from 45% on Mario to 35% on Gordon Freeman, that would be funny!

Somehow I think that Mario/Shadow and Samus/Tifa go in the same league in having the obvious winner underperform for whatever reason. The only problem is that Mario is freaking Mario so he did not let Shadow get so close to him.

Fact/Fiction: Cube will still be able to pull off 100+ vote gains with the late night vote.

Looks like I was right about Cube pulling off some 100+ vote gains overnight during the hours with the lowest vote intake. Cube's smallest gain was an 88 vote again and he only got 8 updates with less than a 100 vote gain.
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wow we're gonna end up with like 48k

guess people don't care about joke characters
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I gotta say though; L Block is damn lucky he's got a night match in round 1. If it was a day match, I think HK-47 would have it. The amount of votes Cube has wouldn't even be enough to win a match in a day vote here.
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wow we're gonna end up with like 48k

guess people don't care about joke characters

more like nobody cares about a guy named after something you wear on your feet
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Demyx is better than Axel.

I gotta say though; L Block is damn lucky he's got a night match in round 1. If it was a day match, I think HK-47 would have it. The amount of votes Cube has wouldn't even be enough to win a match in a day vote here.

This insane performance by the Cube has me convinced L-Block will win regardless if it was a night match or day match. If the Cube is pulling off this performance through high bracket support (70%+), then L-Block should be able to have bracket support that is around just as good as the Cube, if not a bit better than that.
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From: -LusterSoldier- | #174
I gotta say though; L Block is damn lucky he's got a night match in round 1. If it was a day match, I think HK-47 would have it. The amount of votes Cube has wouldn't even be enough to win a match in a day vote here.

This insane performance by the Cube has me convinced L-Block will win regardless if it was a night match or day match. If the Cube is pulling off this performance through high bracket support (70%+), then L-Block should be able to have bracket support that is around just as good as the Cube, if not a bit better than that.

Look at the votes though. They're pathetic today... even worse then typical night matches. Plus, its facing another joke character its essentially SFFing into the ground among joke voters. You really can't take much about the strength of a joke character in a match with 2 joke characters
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I think the vote total is more telling than WWC's performance.
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Character Battle VIII - 3/6 - Today's Winners: WCC and The Boss

Joke character SFF I don't think so

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Look at the votes though. They're pathetic today... even worse then typical night matches. Plus, its facing another joke character its essentially SFFing into the ground among joke voters. You really can't take much about the strength of a joke character in a match with 2 joke characters

I know the votes are bad today, but HK-47 won't be a big vote drawer himself (he's high end fodder). The L-Block/HK-47 match might do slightly better in vote totals than this match simply because L-Block is more recognizable than a Cube.
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Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~
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Calling this joke character SFF is hilariously misguided. I'd say less than 5% of the voters even know who the **** Sandal is. Jokes don't do well if nobody knows what the joke is.
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Demyx is better than Axel.

I bet half of the votes for Sandal are joke anti-voters and they voted for Sandal because he's human.
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Character Battle VIII - 3/6 - Today's Winners: WCC and The Boss

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I gotta say though; L Block is damn lucky he's got a night match in round 1. If it was a day match, I think HK-47 would have it. The amount of votes Cube has wouldn't even be enough to win a match in a day vote here.

Well, WCC would also get more votes than this in a day-match. Pretty poor vote total today, but if these two jokes in the same poll can get ~48,000 votes in twelve hours and L-Block > WCC, I don't think HK-47 would do too well against L-Block in either half-match. Heck, I'd be impressed if HK-47 takes an hour on L-Block's watch.
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T E A M C H O C O L A T E
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portal and dragon age are both EA PC games. To think there wouldn't be SFF among these joke characters is silly.
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Ouch, 70% updates for the Cube. Didn't expect that. I doubt the Cube falls below 70% updates on the remaining updates.
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From: -LusterSoldier- | #184
Ouch, 70% updates for the Cube. Didn't expect that. I doubt the Cube falls below 70% updates on the remaining updates.

i love how sandal doubled his vote output out of no where. seems someone wants him to get to 22%
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I bet half of the votes for Sandal are joke anti-voters and they voted for Sandal because he's human.

Guilty.
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7/10 matches should traditionally be close yet looking into previous 16 seeded contests that's not the case. Heck this is only the fifth biggest 7/10 blowout.

Knuckles/Akira
Sephiroth/Gabe
Super Mario 64/NiGHTS into Dreams...
Bowser/Guybrush
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Character Battle VIII - 3/6 - Today's Winners: WCC and The Boss

EA PC Joke Character SFF.

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wheresoever you go, go with all your heart

From: ZFS | #188
EA PC Joke Character SFF.

Among PC gamers, Dragon age and portal are both must play games. But WCC is a better joke character among the two, so votes Sandal typically woulda gotten go to WCC instead. Understand now?
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EA PC Joke Character SFF.

Yeah, pretty much sums up my thoughts. We've already argued Sandal sucks an amazing amount -- especially after the match started -- so let's not defend this guy any more than we have to.
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T E A M C H O C O L A T E
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I was hoping that laying it out with no explanation would make you see how silly that idea is, but I guess not!

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I don't see it as silly at all. I figured this would be a SFF joke beat down entire time.
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and im not trying to defend sandal as beign anything more then bottom fodder, but this makes him look at tanner and mr driller levels, which he wouldn't be without SFF. Being a character in a popular game gets you above that level.
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Being a character in a popular game gets you above that level.

Do you think people actually remembered his name?
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Character Battle VIII - 3/6 - Today's Winners: WCC and The Boss

From: charmander6000 | #194
Being a character in a popular game gets you above that level.

Do you think people actually remembered his name?

anyone who beat Dragon age would with the scene at the end.
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Ulti was talking about the semifinal match with Kirby and Sephiroth, not the final with Link and Crono. Kirby was the one who got an absurd rally at the beginning of that match, not Snake

If you don't think Snake was getting rallied at all in that match, too, that's pretty silly. The fact that Snake was able to hold off Cloud with a small lead during the ASV is proof enough of that. Look at his ASV the next day when he doesn't need rallying to hold off Cloud. Cloud cut a big chunk out of his lead.
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"I can set you free, mate."
"My freedom was forfeit long ago!"

It's the first I heard of it. Whatever though, it's not like we'll see him again or have a lot of reason to expect him to do better than this -- WCC's the icon of Portal in a lot of ways whereas Sandal's dad is apparently more prominent than Sandal for DA:O. Portal's a FPS/puzzle-game while DA:O is an RPG. WCC's a box. I need to see Sandal in another match before I consider him being SFF'd here again, because it's a pretty lame reason right now.

WCC with 79.84%.
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Despite his poor performance, I bet Sandal could still beat Shadow.

I wonder how a Shadow/Sandal/Tanner/Mr. Driller match would work out. Maybe everyone just says "screw this" and doesn't vote.
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c'mon drake

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wheresoever you go, go with all your heart

Whos ready for the most debated match of the contest
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