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~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~
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~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~
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~*Character Contest Histories (Thanks to Raven 2 for the info transfer)*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Contest_Histories

~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

~*All the match pics*~
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/index.php

~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages

~*Poll Start Times*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Character_Battle_8_Poll_Start_Times

~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~

SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them.

X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process.

Noble Nine - Link, Cloud, Sephiroth, Mario, Crono, Solid Snake, Sonic, Samus and Mega Man.

Near-Elite - The Squall, Auron, Tifa, Vincent, Zelda, Kirby, etc group that has come at, near or even ahead of Noble Nine characters in the past.

LFF (Leech Fanbase Factor) - A common issue in four-way polls, where two entrants of the same fanbase leech one another's strength and make each other weaker. This is the main factor currently discussed in stat topics, since four-ways look like they're here to stay. The earliest example we have of this is Arthas/Diablo leeching each other half to death and letting KOS-MOS sneak into second place back in 2007. SFF still happens now and again, but LFF is just as huge these days.

Last Place Factor - A huge issue in four-way contests where an entrant having no expected chance to advance in the poll does far worse than past strength dictates. A lot of these entrants are naturally weak, but a lot of things come along that make little to no sense. A great example is Zero -- he scored 47% on Crono and won several updates, then one round later he gets disproportionally blown out once Link enters the picture. This factor also works in reverse, when an obvious first place game does worse than expected thanks to smart voters helping a game come in second place. The final of 2008 is a good example of this, where Snake stayed even with Link until the day vote and ultimately defeated Cloud. (Credit to red sox 777 and Leonhart4 for the examples)

For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything.

Enchantment?
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"I can set you free, mate."
"My freedom was forfeit long ago!"

Enchantment!

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KrahenProphet lived up to his name.

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Albion Hero is the Cream of Loli Fanboyism

topic 800 soon, anyone wanna guess which match it falls on?
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Shakes Fist!

exciting
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Sonic/Sandbag? Auron/Magus.

Magus/Auron never shared a match.


And I would take Big Boss pretty much instantly over Sonic.
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So do we think Big Boss can match Snake's 2005 number on Mario with a Naked Snake pic?
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"But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside."
"I am lightning...the rain transformed."

No one expected Kirby to get bandwagoned against Sonic last year either. He didn't have any "whoa" matches until beating Sonic.
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6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....

From: KanzarisKelshen | #492
I've always thought Kirby beating Sonic was truly a one-shot deal, due to "WHOAOMG HE BEAT MONSTAR CHEIF CONTEST FINALIST!" in the eyes of the casuals. Thus he gained a pretty big boost due to how it surprised those not in the know, kind of like how Frog went to 48% Snake after his struggle with Chief. Does that sound plausible?

Then why wasn't Sub-Zero nor Aeris given the same treatment?

"OMG AERIS BEET TEH CHEF SHE BEAT SNOIC 2!"
"ZOMG SUBBY PWND CHIEF AURONS DEAD!"

I refuse to belive that. Frog was just running wild for no reason that year, just like Magus, and both of them went on to be exposed to hell. Kirby's possible since MC actually did something the previous year.
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From: paulg235 | Posted: 1/18/2010 8:45:23 PM | #010
Then why wasn't Sub-Zero nor Aeris given the same treatment?

"OMG AERIS BEET TEH CHEF SHE BEAT SNOIC 2!"
"ZOMG SUBBY PWND CHIEF AURONS DEAD!"

I refuse to belive that. Frog was just running wild for no reason that year, just like Magus, and both of them went on to be exposed to hell. Kirby's possible since MC actually did something the previous year.

Because MC had just come off of blowing everyone's minds? And Aeris didn't do badly against Sonic if I recall. Sure, not as close as Zero, but who's to say she didn't benefit?

No clue about Subs though. Maybe he benefitted, but he probably didn't for whatever reason.
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Kirby got the bandwagon treatment because he's adorable.

That wasn't a joke.

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From: voltch | Posted: 1/18/2010 6:35:21 PM | #005
topic 800 soon, anyone wanna guess which match it falls on?

Kratos vs. Miles 'Tails' Prower

From: red sox 777 | #009
No one expected Kirby to get bandwagoned against Sonic last year either. He didn't have any "whoa" matches until beating Sonic.

Not in our eyes, but beating Chief, Dante, and Leon was probably pretty "whoa" to casuals. And who says Aerith didn't overperform against Sonic? She's looked pretty "meh" in her contest appearances since then. Subby may have overperformed on Auron, too, who knows. All the better for Tidus!

Frog possibly had the advantage of Snake having the worst pic in history in round 3, so that might have helped some.
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"Hold on a minute! That testimony stinks!"
"Witness! You can't just say 'Hello' and expect us to get anywhere! I want you to testify!"

So do we think Big Boss can match Snake's 2005 number on Mario with a Naked Snake pic?

He only got 34.81% on Mario in 2007, so probably not. But if you take off a few points from Mario for the Deboost and then add a few points to Big Boss for MGS4, it's not out of the range of possibility. It'll be a night match too, so that could pad BB's percentage by a percent or 2.

And I would NOT take Sonic to beat Snake's 2005 number on Mario right now, even on Deboosted Mario.
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6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....

Actually, scrap the Sub-Zero claim! In round 1 against Auron last year, he came within .15% of what he got in 2006!

He did 3% worse in round 2 though!
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"Hold on a minute! That testimony stinks!"
"Witness! You can't just say 'Hello' and expect us to get anywhere! I want you to testify!"

Big Boss definitely seemed beefier last year for sure. I mean, he was leading Chief for a while even with an old man pic and Raiden in the match with him. With a Naked Snake pic and no Raiden, Big Boss probably wins that match easily. Heck, he probably wins it easily with an old man pic and no Raiden.
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"Spoil it for me. I'm never going to play that game so I want to know if he's going to be another Auron or another Sin." - Soul about Jecht vs. PW

What significant bandwagons have we seen in 1vs1 anyway? We've seen Kirby for years.
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Krahen Prophet did a fatality.

4way bandwagons are infinitely easier than 1v1. It's not easy to rally up a big underdog past 50% of votes.
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Naked Snake got 35% on Mario in 2007, pre-MGS4, so I think it's entirely possible he does pretty damn good on Mario if he gets Naked Snake again. And, hey, Big Boss didn't do too shabby himself in round 2 last year.
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Magus against Link...?
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"But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside."
"I am lightning...the rain transformed."

I think benefiting from bandwagoning usually requires two or more performances in a row of impressing or winning in exciting ways. Kirby was able to build up a string of impressive matches, and in most of them he stood out like hell as well. It's hard to say how connected those two factors are, but Kirby had it going on.


Ammy with 49.12%.
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Starcraft was the biggest one. Frog and Magus, maybe. Crono in 2002, if you find Crono equaling Cloud's performance on Mario 4 days later strange.
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6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....

Oh, and Bowser/Ganondorf in 2005 were bandwagoned against Sephiroth at the very least.
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"Spoil it for me. I'm never going to play that game so I want to know if he's going to be another Auron or another Sin." - Soul about Jecht vs. PW

What match is going to bandwagon him? Beating Rikku? Beating Liquid/Vivi/Altair?

I think the fact that he's Kirby could be enough to bandwagon him. He's one of the board's most beloved characters.

Also Kirby>Sonic is one of the biggest upset results that could plausibly happen in this 1v1 format. Voters might rally around that.
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I wouldn't call what happened with Bowser and Ganondorf a bandwagon. It's just the obvious winner of a contest underperforming at the end against vastly inferior competition. The same thing happened to FFVII against CT and SSBM, and against Samus in the Female Bracket.
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6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....

From: red sox 777 | #027
I wouldn't call what happened with Bowser and Ganondorf a bandwagon. It's just the obvious winner of a contest underperforming at the end against vastly inferior competition. The same thing happened to FFVII against CT and SSBM, and against Samus in the Female Bracket.

I'd consider that a bandwagon of sorts. The "Down with the champ" bandwagon, if you will. Seph probably got it against Cloud in 2003 after he beat Link.

I think the fact that he's Kirby could be enough to bandwagon him. He's one of the board's most beloved characters.

Yeah, but that's only gotten Kirby so far. What's his biggest win one-on-one? Tidus?
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"So cold. I am always by your side."
"There ain't no gettin' off of this train we on!"

The board doesn't matter when it comes to wagons. We already know the stuff, wagons seem to form out of sheer, massive shock to me, which means we really can't wagon anything much except as a joke or in a really close match.
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Heck, that's probably Kirby's biggest win period, if you don't count beating Sonic and Seph last year.
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"But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside."
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From: LeonhartFour | Posted: 1/18/2010 8:57:04 PM | #028
I'd consider that a bandwagon of sorts. The "Down with the champ" bandwagon, if you will. Seph probably got it against Cloud in 2003 after he beat Link.

I think the fact that he's Kirby could be enough to bandwagon him. He's one of the board's most beloved characters.

Yeah, but that's only gotten Kirby so far. What's his biggest win one-on-one? Tidus?

His most impressive match 1v1 is his loss to Bowser to me, but if you use that as his 1v1 peak, he's damn respectable.
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I just saw today's result since I worked a 12 hour shift at Wendy's which started at 11:00 AM.

Yay Amy pulled it off. I was totally expecting Shadow to take it.

*insert Tiger Woods gif*

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His most impressive match 1v1 is his loss to Bowser to me, but if you use that as his 1v1 peak, he's damn respectable.

Agreed on this. It's not at all clear to me that Kirby right now is stronger than he was in 2005 either- in fact if I had to guess, I'd say he's weaker now.
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6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....

Seph was undoubtedly bandwagoned in 2003. Final matches are always close.
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4way bandwagons are infinitely easier than 1v1. It's not easy to rally up a big underdog past 50% of votes.

Sonic Kirby is a 12-hour match right? It's equally easy to rally in 12-hour matches as in 24-hour 4-ways. Double the characters, halve the time - same thing in practice. The "static" rally/joke vote etc. population would have the same effectiveness in both situations.
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woo Cube
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Moltar Status: Bracket: Cube > Sandal (5/6)
Contest Analysis Crew Archives: http://thecrew.speedrunwiki.com/

Weighted Companion Cube 83.33%

15
Sandal 16.67%

3
TOTAL VOTES 18

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Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world!

*yawns*

And Cube's squashing.
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"I can set you free, mate."
"My freedom was forfeit long ago!"

lol sandal
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Weighted Companion Cube 84.78%

78
Sandal 15.22%

14
TOTAL VOTES 92

Heh.
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SOWNDal
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Oracle Challenge 2k10 - Rank: 73rd
Today's prediction: Cube with 68.24% Status:

Wow, 36.27% for Ammy
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"But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside."
"I am lightning...the rain transformed."

I should have predicted a higher percentage for Cube

Oh dear. I should have been ballsier.
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Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world!

Graaaah, pressured into lowering my Cube prediction. -_-
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Cube showing it doesn't depend on static percentages!
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6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....

Wow, Sandal.

Cube isn't really going to be the first 80%...right?
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LOL 80% and still going up.

Drake > Cube is a pick I want back.
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watch out Link
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