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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 783
Lightslayer987 | Posted 1/17/2010 5:12:57 PM | message detail |
thrall
did better then expected, and western games in general do better in
goty polls these days. Don't tell me you think 5 years ago that a
western RPG would go almost even with A nintendo all-star game and a
metal gear solid game! --- http://i48.tinypic.com/24ytvz8.png Albion Hero is the Cream of Loli Fanboyism |
THEVinceYoung | Posted 1/17/2010 5:14:48 PM | message detail |
From: Same Orphanage | #350 I wouldn't give him enough credit to call him an upper near-elite quite yet. I ain't takin' him over Squall, Vincent, Auron, Sora, Tifa, or Ganondorf. --- "So cold. I am always by your side." "There ain't no gettin' off of this train we on!" |
red sox 777 | Posted 1/17/2010 5:15:02 PM | message detail |
This
implies that there is 1 point in time where vote intake suddenly
changes spectacularly. If it is 9AM, you expect the vote to rise. But
what about 8:55? In fact, hasn't it been rising little by little since
6:00? Any 5-minute interval in the ASV will surely have more votes than
the mean for the match, but will the difference between, say, 15.45 and
15.40 have a higher chance of being positive than the difference
between 05:30 and 05:25? I decided to test this further, with a very crude test that nonetheless should be pretty convincing. I looked at the last 5 rounds of the character battle in 2008, excluded weekend matches, and looked at the difference between the update immediately before 3 PM and the update immediately after. In a very small number of matches, the time length of the update was different (i.e. 5 minutes vs. 6 minutes) so I tossed those out too. The results: Out of 21 remaining matches, the mean change was +26.57, the standard deviation was 39.81, and the standard error was 8.69, giving a 99.69% chance that the actual mean is greater than 0. In 14 matches there was a gain across the 3 PM line, and in 7 matches there was a loss. Actually, 2 of those losses came on Election Day and Veterans Day, so if you toss those as not being real school-day matches, the evidence becomes even more supportive for there being a jump at 3 PM. Of course in non-ASV matches the trends are much more gradual, but the time relationship is still there, so each update is not quite random, even after first differencing away the number of votes in the previous update. --- 6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno 'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared.... |
LOLContests | Posted 1/17/2010 5:17:28 PM | message detail |
western games in general do better in goty polls these days. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1877 --- "I love to reload during a battle! There's nothing like the feeling of slamming a long silver bullet into a well greased chamber."--Ocelot |
red sox 777 | Posted 1/17/2010 5:17:48 PM | message detail |
By
the way Red Sox, stock is handled in the same way. Without a doubt, the
stock market rises in value over time. Yet at any one point in time,
there is an equal chance of going up at the next juncture than there is
of going down. Ah, but the contest has much much much more clearly defined trends than the stock market, and with consistent up AND down trends to boot, whereas the only really consistent trend with the market is that over a very long period of time, stocks will go up. A random walk the contest is not. --- 6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno 'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared.... |
THEVinceYoung | Posted 1/17/2010 5:28:10 PM | message detail |
Fact/Fiction: There will be at least one character seeded 13th or lower that will be a round 1 bracket favorite. If so, who? --- "So cold. I am always by your side." "There ain't no gettin' off of this train we on!" |
Lightslayer987 | Posted 1/17/2010 5:30:08 PM | message detail |
who are you THEVinceYoung --- http://i48.tinypic.com/24ytvz8.png Albion Hero is the Cream of Loli Fanboyism |
L33t_Rappa_Sam | Posted 1/17/2010 5:31:26 PM | message detail |
From: THEVinceYoung | #356 Fact: Mega Man X (likely) Ken (likely) Liquid Snake (kinda likely) Sub-Zero (kinda likely) Jecht (likely) Ellis (who the hell knows honestly) Big Daddy (kinda likely) At least one of those will be a bracket favorite with the casuals. --- Not Wylvane |
The n00b Avenger | Posted 1/17/2010 5:32:08 PM | message detail |
From: THEVinceYoung | #356 Uh *points to the current match* --- A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice. |
THEVinceYoung | Posted 1/17/2010 5:32:38 PM | message detail |
You may kill me, but you may never insult me! Who am I?! ... ...I'm Captain Jack Sparrow. --- "I can set you free, mate." "My freedom was forfeit long ago!" |
red sox 777 | Posted 1/17/2010 5:33:20 PM | message detail |
Leonhart? --- 6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno 'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared.... |
THEVinceYoung | Posted 1/17/2010 5:33:21 PM | message detail |
I wouldn't be surprised if Price is the favorite. Casual bait, and Mega Man traditionally has awful casual bracket support. --- "Stay with me until the end. Please." "Not until the end. Always." |
Lightslayer987 | Posted 1/17/2010 5:34:18 PM | message detail |
Oh right, Leonhart would make sense since he's a Titans fan --- http://i48.tinypic.com/24ytvz8.png Albion Hero is the Cream of Loli Fanboyism |
red sox 777 | Posted 1/17/2010 5:35:51 PM | message detail |
There's always people posting on alts whom I do not recognize.......well mostly EC. --- 6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno 'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared.... |
Lightslayer987 | Posted 1/17/2010 5:36:40 PM | message detail |
Thats why I try to keep my user name in my sig in some way --- http://i48.tinypic.com/24ytvz8.png Albion Hero is the Cream of Loli Fanboyism |
LucaGoers | Posted 1/17/2010 5:36:58 PM | message detail |
I can always recognize EC's alts, for whatever the reason. His posting style is...unique, to say the least. --- "So cold. I am always by your side." "There ain't no gettin' off of this train we on!" |
Perilous_War | Posted 1/17/2010 6:04:35 PM | message detail |
Thats why I try to keep my user name in my sig in some way I do that too for my alts. --- You wish you had User ID 5000000? Sorry, but I have it. ~Luster Soldier~ |
MoogleKupo141 | Posted 1/17/2010 6:05:52 PM | message detail |
Thanks for that, Perilous_War. --- For your health. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/Cyclo/pokewhat.jpg This is my Chocomander, KrahenProphet |
LinkMarioSamus | Posted 1/17/2010 6:17:54 PM | message detail |
Good god X, what a disappointment! At least I only expected 70% (unlike Ngamer who expected 76%!). Okay, the morning is the only time I will be able to check on these day matches. Has Price's day vote been beastly? |
red sox 777 | Posted 1/17/2010 6:45:21 PM | message detail |
This match has had pretty much the most even trends ever. Barely any movement since I first checked it 8 hours ago. --- 6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno 'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared.... |
The n00b Avenger | Posted 1/17/2010 6:45:37 PM | message detail |
The match has had nothing but day vote, how should we know --- A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice. |
red sox 777 | Posted 1/17/2010 6:47:01 PM | message detail |
Over/Under: This match finishes with 80,000 votes. --- 6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno 'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared.... |
The n00b Avenger | Posted 1/17/2010 6:59:08 PM | message detail |
Over baby --- A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice. |
The n00b Avenger | Posted 1/17/2010 6:59:28 PM | message detail |
It's funny, there was a time where we had 24 hour matches fail to reach that number --- A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice. |
creativename | Posted 1/17/2010 7:03:24 PM | message detail |
Ah,
but the contest has much much much more clearly defined trends than the
stock market, and with consistent up AND down trends to boot, whereas
the only really consistent trend with the market is that over a very
long period of time, stocks will go up. A random walk the contest is
not. You are correct - this is not a Wiener process/Brownian motion with a positive mean. The actual populations are different at different times - the underlying population of voters have different characteristics (age, country, etc.) which are not random over time. In the stock market there really is no such thing as "momentum", but in these polls there certainly is. --- gamefaqscontests.com gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
charmander6000 | Posted 1/17/2010 7:59:53 PM | message detail |
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charmander6000 | Posted 1/17/2010 8:00:53 PM | message detail |
Match V: (3) Luigi vs. (14) Meta Knight Information Name: Luigi Game/Series: Super Mario Bros. Previous Contest: 2008 Performance: 4th in round 3 Name: Meta Knight Game/Series: Kirby Previous Contest: 2008 Performance: 3rd in round 1 Analysis One cosmetic change SBAllen made to the 16 seed bracket is that he switched the 3/14 and 6/11 matches around, it makes sense since the higher seeds should be on the outside of the eight-pack. As for the actual match this isn’t about who would win, but by how much as the 12 hour matches show off their advantage by ending boring matches earlier than usual. Luigi was able to defeat Kirby back in 2006 and while some people would debate the reverse I think it is clear that Meta Knight won’t be reaching him. While Meta Knight was unable to reach the expectations of beating L-Block, which if you think about it was a bit unrealistic he did get about 41% on Ryu and given I would take Luigi to just win over Ryu it seems like a good place to start with. Of course with any Nintendo match SFF always has to be considered though I am hesitant about calling this a SFF match. One of the bigger reasons Nintendo has overlap is because of the Super Smash Bros. series. Meta Knight is one of the most used characters in Brawl for both competitive and casual play. While some Nintendo matches don’t follow that progression huge fan favourites such as Fox, Marth and Ike were able to avoid most SFF against Yoshi, Donkey Kong and Pikachu respectively. The only difference here is that the gap between Luigi and Meta Knight is arguably bigger than those three. If Luigi was to SFF Meta Knight I expect Luigi to reach the high 60s and maybe even break 70%; the lower bound is for Meta Knight to break 40%. Personally I think the SFF will be minimal and the night vote not being Super Smash Bros. friendly may end up hurting Meta Knight. charmander6000’s Bracket: Luigi > Meta Knight charmander6000’s Prediction: Luigi wins, 62.52% - 37.48% --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 1/2 - Today's Winners: Ocelot and Mega Man X |
ZenOfThunder | Posted 1/17/2010 8:26:14 PM | message detail |
Rate the Match Pics: Luigi vs Meta Knight and Ammy vs Shadow http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=53118770 for the two of you that care --- (|| ' ' ||) Visio Vestri - Character Battle VIII Fanfiction Project . /|_|\ http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=53091233 |
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/17/2010 8:46:51 PM | message detail |
Man, those Luigi and Ammy pics sure are SEXY --- "The great GF...Bahamut." "...GF? I...? Using my powers...It is you humans...I fear..." |
Lightslayer987 | Posted 1/17/2010 8:47:33 PM | message detail |
im
expecting MK to look a little better then people expect here. Like
about 40%. A lot of casuals seem to think he has a chance, so maybe
there will be a lot of bracket voting for him. --- http://i48.tinypic.com/24ytvz8.png Albion Hero is the Cream of Loli Fanboyism |
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/17/2010 8:48:48 PM | message detail |
Yeah,
for some reason, I have a feeling Luigi/Meta Knight is a match where
the board owns the casuals. If Meta Knight can resist SFF, he could
definitely break 40%. He's probably worth that much on Luigi before SFF. --- "So cold. I am always by your side." "There ain't no gettin' off of this train we on!" |
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/17/2010 8:49:31 PM | message detail |
And
80,000 votes breached! I think people are starting to catch on to 2
matches per day. Quick learners for once! They can't pick up on ORDER
MATTERS, but they can pick up on two matches per day! --- "I can set you free, mate." "My freedom was forfeit long ago!" |
Lightslayer987 | Posted 1/17/2010 8:51:03 PM | message detail |
i wonder if we can get 100k in day matches in later rounds --- http://i48.tinypic.com/24ytvz8.png Albion Hero is the Cream of Loli Fanboyism |
Not_Wylvane | Posted 1/17/2010 8:51:24 PM | message detail |
Go surprise tripling by Luigi! My long overdue Luigi > Link pick from 2003 will finally come into fruition! --- Not Wylvane |
red sox 777 | Posted 1/17/2010 8:52:07 PM | message detail |
Just wait 'till Snake/Sephiroth. --- 6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno 'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared.... |
HaRRicH | Posted 1/17/2010 8:55:44 PM | message detail |
MK's
proven he can do well enough with SFF resisting, it's going to be more
of a matter of testing his one-on-one appeal -- he's never had more
than 22.61% before. If that doesn't matter, MK might break 40%. If it
does or if Luigi SFF's him harder than expected, he'll be closer to
35%...but I don't think it'll be any closer to a doubling than that. MMX with 53.66%. --- T E A M C H O C O L A T E http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7355/64590879.png |
Lightslayer987 | Posted 1/17/2010 8:57:18 PM | message detail |
I'm predicting Price with the brackets. It'll be hard for the casuals to side with the 13 seed over a 4, methinks. --- http://i48.tinypic.com/24ytvz8.png Albion Hero is the Cream of Loli Fanboyism |
Not_Wylvane | Posted 1/17/2010 8:58:12 PM | message detail |
I'm hungry. --- Not Wylvane |
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/17/2010 8:58:45 PM | message detail |
Ocelot
nearly did it as a 12 against Pokemon. It's possible, but I won't be
surprised either way. This division might be the toughest first
division in terms of bracket splits. I have a feeling we're going to
see a few more matches where neither side gets more than 60% bracket
support. Ammy/Shadow and Drake/Boss ought to be the same. --- "I can set you free, mate." "My freedom was forfeit long ago!" |
HaRRicH | Posted 1/17/2010 8:59:10 PM | message detail |
Hayabusa as a three-seed barely had more support than Jill as a fourteen-seed back in 2004. It's not unprecedented. --- T E A M C H O C O L A T E http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7355/64590879.png |
Master Moltar | Posted 1/17/2010 9:00:15 PM | message detail |
Luigi 81.82% 9 Meta Knight 18.18% 2 TOTAL VOTES 11 Poor MK --- Moltar Status: Bracket: Luigi > MK (4/4) Contest Analysis Crew Archives: http://thecrew.speedrunwiki.com/ |
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/17/2010 9:00:26 PM | message detail |
Vote Accepted Luigi 86.67% 13 Meta Knight 13.33% 2 TOTAL VOTES 15 Holy Luigi board vote --- "So cold. I am always by your side." "There ain't no gettin' off of this train we on!" |
GrapefruitKing | Posted 1/17/2010 9:00:30 PM | message detail |
go go go Luigi --- Oracle Challenge 2k10 Today's prediction: Luigi with 66.14% Status: |
red sox 777 | Posted 1/17/2010 9:00:33 PM | message detail |
Luigi 75.44% 43 Meta Knight 24.56% 14 TOTAL VOTES 57 Luigi with the board vote. --- 6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno 'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared.... |
Lightslayer987 | Posted 1/17/2010 9:00:40 PM | message detail |
so much for 40% --- http://i48.tinypic.com/24ytvz8.png Albion Hero is the Cream of Loli Fanboyism |
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/17/2010 9:00:52 PM | message detail |
Whoa, 74.34% bracket support for X. --- "I can set you free, mate." "My freedom was forfeit long ago!" |
General_Zimbad | Posted 1/17/2010 9:00:53 PM | message detail |
Its over. Next. /joking --- These are my friends, I have there backs, they are the closest things to blood that I have!!! The sun sets forever on blackwater park! <3333 Parkway Drive |
Lightslayer987 | Posted 1/17/2010 9:01:14 PM | message detail |
oh wow, mega man had nearly 75% --- http://i48.tinypic.com/24ytvz8.png Albion Hero is the Cream of Loli Fanboyism |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/17/2010 9:01:18 PM | message detail |
Oh ya! Oh ya! --- Yoblazer: http://i44.tinypic.com/5nw45i.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
red sox 777 | Posted 1/17/2010 9:01:34 PM | message detail |
Meta Knight will finish higher than this. Luigi was even leading Squall at this point! --- 6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno 'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared.... |