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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 783
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/17/2010 12:41:21 PM | message detail |
By
the way, either Mississippi hates Mega Man or they love Price. He might
actually win a state! Utah contains the biggest X fanboys though! Well, other than South America. MMX and Zero always do well in South America, for whatever the reason. --- "Hold on a minute! That testimony stinks!" "Witness! You can't just say 'Hello' and expect us to get anywhere! I want you to testify!" |
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/17/2010 12:49:25 PM | message detail |
Fact/Fiction: Price will be the overall bracket favorite --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
Dilated Chemist | Posted 1/17/2010 12:50:11 PM | message detail |
Luigi vs. X Who ya got? --- GT: TriggerTRE "Nothing is true. Everything is permitted." |
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/17/2010 12:50:35 PM | message detail |
Luigi. --- "The great GF...Bahamut." "...GF? I...? Using my powers...It is you humans...I fear..." |
HaRRicH | Posted 1/17/2010 12:50:48 PM | message detail |
Yoshi didn't do anything to Snake with Brawl SFF. That was the sprite round. I've been a fan of calling it a combo of the two factors. Didn't stop Snake from turning around a 57/43 beatdown against Mega Man into a 55/45 whoopin' in his favor. I'm not sure what Sephiroth has to do with anything. He has no ties to Nintendo, so it's not going to affect Brawl hype. I was just trying to say when you have somebody incredibly popular and a classic Nintendo-character in tons of games including SSBB's predecessor (regardless of her own strength, which isn't terrible since she beat Jill), SSBB-hype for a Kirby-rival isn't going to stand up very well. Hype for characters like him would mean more if he was facing fodder or non-Nintendo. Comparing MK's hype to Solid's hype is ridiculous as well. Solid single-handedly got SSBB and MGS4 hyped to holy hell and Mega Man is only quasi-Nintendo, plus in 2005 (between the first Mega Man match you referenced) he looked better against Mario than in 2004, so covering that gap wasn't all hype. --- T E A M C H O C O L A T E http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7355/64590879.png |
Dilated Chemist | Posted 1/17/2010 12:51:21 PM | message detail |
Luigi vs. Mega Man Who ya got? --- GT: TriggerTRE "Nothing is true. Everything is permitted." |
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/17/2010 12:52:24 PM | message detail |
But
you don't beat a character as popular as Mega Man and turn around such
a big margin (It's still 55/45 Mega Man in 2005) if hype doesn't
matter. And Meta Knight doesn't have to have hype as big as Snake's to
beat Peach and Wario. --- "Spoil it for me. I'm never going to play that game so I want to know if he's going to be another Auron or another Sin." - Soul about Jecht vs. PW |
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/17/2010 12:52:32 PM | message detail |
Mega Man. --- "The great GF...Bahamut." "...GF? I...? Using my powers...It is you humans...I fear..." |
red sox 777 | Posted 1/17/2010 12:52:55 PM | message detail |
Megaman, of course. MMX/Luigi is more debatable, but I'd take X. --- 6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno 'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared.... |
Dilated Chemist | Posted 1/17/2010 12:57:45 PM | message detail |
FACT/FICTION: Will Luigi beat X's percentage on Price against Meta Knight (over 65% on Meta Knight)? --- GT: TriggerTRE "Nothing is true. Everything is permitted." |
voltch | Posted 1/17/2010 12:58:35 PM | message detail |
FICTION:MMX might pick up at the very end like link sort of did with thrall. --- Shakes Fist! |
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/17/2010 12:58:48 PM | message detail |
It's
a push. Neither result will surprise me. Just depends on how resistant
to SFF Meta Knight is. Indirectly, Meta's definitely worth more than
35% on Weegi. --- "Stay with me until the end. Please." "Not until the end. Always." |
charmander6000 | Posted 1/17/2010 12:59:11 PM | message detail |
It depends if Luigi SFF him or not. Right now I'm not sure which way to lean. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 1/2 - Today's Winners: Ocelot and Mega Man X |
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/17/2010 12:59:54 PM | message detail |
Man, you know what? I never thought I'd be glad to get to discuss SFF again and not have to discuss LFF anymore. --- "So cold. I am always by your side." "There ain't no gettin' off of this train we on!" |
HaRRicH | Posted 1/17/2010 1:00:44 PM | message detail |
I
think our core difference is that I think hype falters to some degree
in SFF-matches or when the hyped is still clearly outclassed by an
opponent, and I think MK was facing both of those situations in 2007.
Solid was hardly outclassed by Samus the same way MK was outclassed by
Sephiroth and MK's hype meant little in comparison to Solid's hype if
you ignored MGS4. And hype didn't matter at all for MK beating Wario cleanly. They were both hyped equally, both outclassed by Seph, and Fox stole any meaningful SSBB-hype there. Wario wasn't strong, I know you agree on that. I just don't think hype mattered much if any in his match with Peach either. --- T E A M C H O C O L A T E http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7355/64590879.png |
charmander6000 | Posted 1/17/2010 1:01:38 PM | message detail |
I guess so. The only time LFF should be mention in 1v1 is if you want to give a reason for the low vote totals. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 1/2 - Today's Winners: Ocelot and Mega Man X |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/17/2010 1:03:51 PM | message detail |
There
may not be a lot of upsets by Western characters, but I do expect a lot
of them to overperform and show they aren't just fodder. --- http://i48.tinypic.com/24ytvz8.png Albion Hero is the Cream of Loli Fanboyism |
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/17/2010 1:04:37 PM | message detail |
If Meta Knight's SSBB hype train got stolen by LFF, then there's absolutely no way he wins. Meta Knight is weak
without Brawl. You say that hype falters in SFF matches, and here's
Meta Knight saying, "Oh yeah? Watch this." I'm not sure why you think
that. Samus was probably just stronger than Snake in 2006. That's not
hard to believe. Snake beat Sonic 55/45, but Samus beat him worse than
that in 2004. And hype didn't matter at all for MK beating Wario cleanly. They were both hyped equally Also, this is wrong. Nobody cared that Wario was included in Brawl. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
SonicRaptor | Posted 1/17/2010 1:06:00 PM | message detail |
Fact/Fiction: Price will be the overall bracket favorite Probably, Captain Price is insanely popular with CoD fans. --- ...Just repeat to yourself / It's just a show / I should really just relax... |
charmander6000 | Posted 1/17/2010 1:06:41 PM | message detail |
The only one that might be a bracket buster is if Altair gets to round 3 and even then some people had that. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 1/2 - Today's Winners: Ocelot and Mega Man X |
Dilated Chemist | Posted 1/17/2010 1:14:22 PM | message detail |
Bowser > Sora Kirby > Sonic Kratos > Bowser Auron > Squall --- GT: TriggerTRE "Nothing is true. Everything is permitted." |
Dilated Chemist | Posted 1/17/2010 1:15:01 PM | message detail |
Possible bracket busters? --- GT: TriggerTRE "Nothing is true. Everything is permitted." |
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/17/2010 1:15:40 PM | message detail |
All of those would be bracket busters (except maybe Auron > Squall), but none of them are happening. --- "Spoil it for me. I'm never going to play that game so I want to know if he's going to be another Auron or another Sin." - Soul about Jecht vs. PW |
machinegungeek | Posted 1/17/2010 1:16:13 PM | message detail |
For
the whole Big Daddy/Soap match, one must take into account that it
occurs only a scant five days after the release of Bioshock 2. And is a
night match. So yeah... |
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/17/2010 1:16:56 PM | message detail |
A night match doesn't favor either one, really. They're day characters. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
Biolizard28 | Posted 1/17/2010 1:17:09 PM | message detail |
From: machinegungeek | #274 So everyone will be too busy playing Bioshock to vote. --- It may be insulting, but it's true! Now this is entertainment! |
HaRRicH | Posted 1/17/2010 1:17:33 PM | message detail |
We
also never saw MK before SSBB-hype, so we've got assumptions on that
where we can't really try to prove on either side. I figure MK wasn't
much stronger in 2007 than he was pre-hype, certainly not weak enough
to go from 54.25% to losing...and how much stronger is Peach than Wario
anyway? MK had 56.95% Wario when the hype was no longer an issue, and I
think we give Wario more **** than he deserves sometimes. He wasn't as
hyped as MK by people because he was basically a gimme ever since he
was snubbed from SSBM; MK was more of a cool surprise. They also had
the same source and approximate face-time from the trailer, which was
why I was calling them hyped equals. Anyway, I think we lost course. MK's shown in small-percentage battles that he can defend himself in SFF-battles. It hasn't been seen yet if it will translate to one-on-one against his strongest Nintendo-opponent yet, but it's hard to imagine him caving in bad at this point. --- T E A M C H O C O L A T E http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7355/64590879.png |
machinegungeek | Posted 1/17/2010 1:18:34 PM | message detail |
Maybe
its just my noobishness, but Bioshock seems to have a cult element to
its fanbase/popularity. I just expect it to be stronger at night than a
CoD character. I'm probably wrong though. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/17/2010 1:18:57 PM | message detail |
I figure MK wasn't much stronger in 2007 than he was pre-hype I don't see any reason to think this. Kirby games aren't popular, and Meta Knight isn't in many of them anyway. --- "So cold. I am always by your side." "There ain't no gettin' off of this train we on!" |
HaRRicH | Posted 1/17/2010 1:27:59 PM | message detail |
I
remember the MK-defense from the people who took him to advance in 2007
was saying he was all design (much like Kirby), plus despite not being
in many games I think he was one of the most requested
characters...after, you know, the dozens that were already in SSB/M.
The hype was definitely the reason why he, Pit, and probably Wario made
it into the contest...but -- like how EB is why Ness keeps getting into
contests -- I don't think it helped them much in strength, at least in
their scenarios where they were outclassed and dealing with other
SSB-characters. --- T E A M C H O C O L A T E http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7355/64590879.png |
3rdTimesDeCharm | Posted 1/17/2010 1:44:52 PM | message detail |
after only four hours this one is done... seven hours on to the next --- A wise man once said"when in doubt, do a barrel roll" That man was Peppy Hare... |
MarioSuperstar | Posted 1/17/2010 1:48:30 PM | message detail |
Feels nice to finally get a match right but my oracle isn't too happy. --- *is Dranze* Krahen Prophet did a fatality. |
charmander6000 | Posted 1/17/2010 1:49:54 PM | message detail |
Didn't Wario make the contest because he was the guru pick? Probably would have made it without our help though. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 1/2 - Today's Winners: Ocelot and Mega Man X |
red sox 777 | Posted 1/17/2010 2:01:43 PM | message detail |
Peach, Wario, and DK aren't that far below Luigi, Bowser, and Yoshi. A sort of joke in 2003 was that DK equaled Luigi in the x-stats. 2003 aside, Wario got like 42% on Zack with a little bit of help from other RPG characters in the poll, and Peach equaled Jill. --- 6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno 'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared.... |
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 1/17/2010 2:05:14 PM | message detail |
Wow,
Price is looking pretty good. And if Soap > Price like I think it
is, Soap > his fourpack of ass looks pretty damn likely. All in all,
a good match. Anyone else want to wager that Price does better on X
than pkmn trainer? --- http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/020/b/f/Ariel_by_lolita_art.jpg |
MarioSuperstar | Posted 1/17/2010 2:06:53 PM | message detail |
Anybody want to wager X is a high end mid carder? --- *is Dranze* Krahen Prophet did a fatality. |
charmander6000 | Posted 1/17/2010 2:08:50 PM | message detail |
Maybe we should wait until Nathan thrashes The Boss before making a final opinion on MMX/Price. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 1/2 - Today's Winners: Ocelot and Mega Man X |
Dilated Chemist | Posted 1/17/2010 2:15:56 PM | message detail |
Price > Soap. Price is way more recognizable than Soap. --- GT: TriggerTRE "Nothing is true. Everything is permitted." |
Lightslayer987 | Posted 1/17/2010 2:17:10 PM | message detail |
From: Dilated Chemist | #288 But Soap has a more prominant role in the newer game. --- http://i48.tinypic.com/24ytvz8.png Albion Hero is the Cream of Loli Fanboyism |
charmander6000 | Posted 1/17/2010 2:19:30 PM | message detail |
And when The Boss beats Nathan we'll all know about the fraud that was 2009. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 1/2 - Today's Winners: Ocelot and Mega Man X |
KamikazePotato | Posted 1/17/2010 2:19:59 PM | message detail |
Price could be stronger than Soap based on Soap's dumbass hairstyle, for all we know. I wouldn't put it past GameFAQs. --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
Lopen | Posted 1/17/2010 2:21:16 PM | message detail |
Man I don't know if anyone's brought up the Akinator factor But Soap ain't got nothin on price there! --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
CCatalyst | Posted 1/17/2010 2:22:16 PM | message detail |
I think Drake is going to surprise people. --- Curt - PSN - CPhoenixM I am the master of my destiny; I am the captain of my soul. |
KamikazePotato | Posted 1/17/2010 2:22:20 PM | message detail |
TAF has already been reviewed and discussed. --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
Djungelurban | Posted 1/17/2010 2:26:25 PM | message detail |
Seriously, what's up with the UK hating MegaMan? I mean, it's hardly new but come on... Sore thumb much? --- Nominate B.B. Hood for CB IX http://miniurl.org/ntI |
Lightslayer987 | Posted 1/17/2010 2:27:05 PM | message detail |
From: Djungelurban | #295 Wasn't Mega Man not released there or something? --- http://i48.tinypic.com/24ytvz8.png Albion Hero is the Cream of Loli Fanboyism |
charmander6000 | Posted 1/17/2010 2:27:33 PM | message detail |
The series never caught on in Europe I guess. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls Character Battle VIII - 1/2 - Today's Winners: Ocelot and Mega Man X |
Denzokuken | Posted 1/17/2010 2:29:37 PM | message detail |
I can't remember ever seeing a Mega Man game on display here. Kind of fitting that we have an unnatural love for Sonic as well. |
General_Zimbad | Posted 1/17/2010 2:33:37 PM | message detail |
The series never caught on in Europe I guess. Yeh or in australia, not that we matter at all since where like 0.5% of votals :D --- These are my friends, I have there backs, they are the closest things to blood that I have!!! The sun sets forever on blackwater park! <3333 Parkway Drive |
Djungelurban | Posted 1/17/2010 2:34:47 PM | message detail |
Wouldn't
look in too much into Price's performance... I think he's looking
stronger than he is. There's a real division in the gaming community.
Either you just love CoD or you really don't. There's almost no middle
ground. So he'll put up respectable number against most characters, but
you could probably have any random character (except for FPS and maybe
joke characters) in the history of man and he'd still wouldn't go over
65% (especially if the other character had even the faintest semblance
of cuteness to it). --- Nominate B.B. Hood for CB IX http://miniurl.org/ntI |