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voltch | Posted 1/17/2010 9:28:52 AM | message detail

tbh, i think prof Oak might be even stronger than Red, but of the other pokemon humans I can only see broke and maybe giovannia not be fodder.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/17/2010 9:29:28 AM | message detail

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Captain who? John Price? This dude got a 4th seed? This match is going to be a rout. I'm of the opinion that X is probably as strong as Mega Man, maybe slightly stronger. Regardless of how well Modern Warfare 2 did in the Game of the Year polls this year, this dude isn't going anywhere. Now to be fair, I don't know how robust the story mode in the game is, and I don't know how prominent this dude is. He does have a pretty sweet moustache and a cool hat, so at least he doesn't look quite as generic as someone line Nathan Hale. Remember that dude? No? Didn't think so.

What's going to be fun for me in this match is to see how bad MMX can manhandle this dude. I think this has the potential to be the biggest blowout of the first round. In fact, I almost want to say this could be the first time we see the coveted 90% mark since 2004. Almost.

Bracket: Mega Man X
Favorites: Mega Man X
Prediction: Mega Man X with 87.78%
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 1/17/2010 9:29:37 AM | message detail

lol prof oak would be fodder definitely.
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voltch | Posted 1/17/2010 9:29:57 AM | message detail

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MarioSuperstar | Posted 1/17/2010 9:31:16 AM | message detail

Why would Oak be around Ocelot's level? What makes people like him more than the guy you actually use and battles? Oak doesn't even have appeal.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 1/17/2010 9:31:50 AM | message detail

Next match that have chances for being close is probably Ammy vs. Shadow. Who do you all have there? I went with Shadow.

I have Amaterasu. Shadow seems to have fallen off the map the past few years and this is a day match, so Shadow will be denied his precious Europe vote that he would have gotten in a night match.
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voltch | Posted 1/17/2010 9:32:10 AM | message detail

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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 1/17/2010 9:33:36 AM | message detail

From: MyWorldIsCrono | #100
I remember people basing soap and prices strength off mcmillian though, which i always laughed at. He is a freaking joke character 4chan probably rallied in cuz he appears in one level and looks like the swamp thing. Using him to gauge CoD character strength is silly

He is a pretty cool character in the two levels he's in, but you spend half of the second level dragging his ass, so that was wack.
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DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 1/17/2010 9:37:34 AM | message detail

Price will DEFINITELY end up stronger than Soap. He's in every COD game, and is generally regarded as a badass character. Soap is meh, and you control the guy and pretty much never see him.. he's just an avatar for you. And I'm in the camp that says Mega Man X < Mega Man.

However, I think Price is doing pretty damn well here. Soap vs Big Daddy will be really interesting especially when Bioshock 2 comes out. I'm still siding with Big Daddy.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 1/17/2010 9:38:33 AM | message detail

Does anyone find it weird that Pac-Man, Peach, and Red would either all barely beat Ocelot or barely lose to him, and they all serve the same function as an avatar?
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KrahenProphet | Posted 1/17/2010 9:39:47 AM | message detail

It's also rare a match gets two months of arguing and lives up to the hype. Congrats to those who picked Red (especially KP), and I think all sides can be happy with what happened yesterday. What a great match.

Definitely a great match and kick-off for the contest. And fortunately even more good ones just around the corner.

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/17/2010 9:40:56 AM | message detail

Soap is meh, and you control the guy and pretty much never see him.. he's just an avatar for you

Soap plays the role Price did in MW1 in MW2. Hardly an avatar and he's with you on most of the missions.
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KrahenProphet | Posted 1/17/2010 9:44:24 AM | message detail

Soap isn't "just an avatar" at all.

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HaRRicH | Posted 1/17/2010 9:48:20 AM | message detail

I'm thinking this, too. X was behind a ton of SFF last year, and he had to get a vote-in poll to get in. Maybe he's really a dud?

He didn't even do that well in the vote-in either.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3695

He did the best percentage-wise in the polls, but given his competition that's the least he could do. Heck, MMX didn't beat HK-47 as bad as Missingno beat The Boss. Throw in the theory that MMX doesn't represent all of the Mega Man-games in the same way Mega Man does, and this is looking pretty feasible.

We have to give Price some credit here though; unless there's a big distance between MMX and Mega Man, he's not going as bad as most of us suspected...and he's doing it with a terrible picture. Soap/Big Daddy certainly becomes more interesting, though I'm still keeping BD.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 1/17/2010 9:50:42 AM | message detail

Yeah Price gets credit but this is more of another Mega Man ish bombing than Price being a real guy in these things. If X even = Mega Man in the slightest, getting the same % on Price that you got on Leon 4-5 years ago is a heck of a drop.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 1/17/2010 9:53:19 AM | message detail

MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/17/2010 12:09:27 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3733&region=GB

UK loves price

Although I would also blame that on the fact that Mega Man and his other forms are unpopular in the UK. Mega Man has done bad in the UK in the past.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/17/2010 9:54:25 AM | message detail

i love how people refuse to admit we may have a site shift where western characters are getting stronger
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AsurasKordoth | Posted 1/17/2010 9:54:38 AM | message detail

I also highly doubt this has anything to do with Price's strength, X is just flopping here. Price is basically fodder, a very small amount of people even know who he is... how is X failing to break 70% on him?
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Youronestopshop | Posted 1/17/2010 9:55:28 AM | message detail

I refuse to believe they're has been +700 of these topics.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/17/2010 9:55:36 AM | message detail

i love how people refuse to admit we may have a site shift where western characters are getting stronger

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/17/2010 9:55:54 AM | message detail

From: AsurasKordoth | #118
I also highly doubt this has anything to do with Price's strength, X is just flopping here. Price is basically fodder, a very small amount of people even know who he is... how is X failing to break 70% on him?

...he's the face of the franchise that won goty, and was runner up for goty in 2007. what the hell are you talking about
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 1/17/2010 9:57:20 AM | message detail

I know there's a site shift in western characters; I'm just noting that for people who think X = Mega Man, .. the guy's just come a long way from a fall.
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swirIdude | Posted 1/17/2010 9:57:33 AM | message detail

From: Youronestopshop | #119
I refuse to believe they're has been +700 of these topics.

http://thengamer.com/stats/

You were saying?
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swirIdude | Posted 1/17/2010 9:58:25 AM | message detail

Speaking of which, has anyone been saving the topics past 755? (The Hank Aaron topic!)
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/17/2010 9:58:28 AM | message detail

X=MM woud put Price a little below Gordon-level, I think. How is that hard to believe?

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MarioSuperstar | Posted 1/17/2010 9:59:54 AM | message detail

X=MM woud put Price a little below Gordon-level, I think. How is that hard to believe?

Depends on where you think Mega Man is. Are you using BL?
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/17/2010 10:01:03 AM | message detail

I just guesstimated.

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LOLContests | Posted 1/17/2010 10:02:05 AM | message detail

Eh. I don't think Price being popular and the site not shifting entirely towards Western games are impossible to reconcile. The Call of Duty series itself is more popular. And we've seen popular FPS characters before. If there is a shift it's because there are more Western developed games being made for consoles, not that GameFAQS's preferences have necessarily changed. They still hate GTA and Halo!
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Guess how many teens | Posted 1/17/2010 10:03:56 AM | message detail

The UK is again confirmed as a warhappy country.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 1/17/2010 10:04:03 AM | message detail

Assuming this match finishes around 35%, and assuming Mega Man barely beats somebody like.. Auron, that would put him to have a close match with Alucard and maybe even win in the day.

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Haguile | Posted 1/17/2010 10:04:51 AM | message detail

I had Red>Ocelot. When I went to sleep, Ocelot was closing in. Glad to know that Red won.

X>Price is logical. I'm worried about my next pick but....GO WEDGE! I BELIEVE IN YOU!

HaRRicH | Posted 1/17/2010 10:05:07 AM | message detail

HL has been more respected/revolutionary and you're Gordon in HL instead of fighting alongside Price. I've not played and CoD-game's single-player mode, but it sounds like Price is your partner in the same way as Alyx Vance. I'm willing to give Price credit here, but being near Gordon Freeman and Master Chief isn't something I'm going to quickly cling onto until we see more definitive stuff from MMX -- I've been skeptical of him for awhile. We should know plenty more by this time next round.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 1/17/2010 10:06:09 AM | message detail

Yeah since X is going to get SFF'd, I think Ocelot is a better, more consistent guy to base where these people are, but that's assuming nothing weird happens in Red/X.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/17/2010 10:07:03 AM | message detail

Pokemon is good about resisting SFF, so MMX/Red should be fairly accurate.

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/17/2010 10:07:06 AM | message detail

From: HaRRicH | #132
HL has been more respected/revolutionary and you're Gordon in HL instead of fighting alongside Price. I've not played and CoD-game's single-player mode, but it sounds like Price is your partner in the same way as Alyx Vance. I'm willing to give Price credit here, but being near Gordon Freeman and Master Chief isn't something I'm going to quickly cling onto until we see more definitive stuff from MMX -- I've been skeptical of him for awhile. We should know plenty more by this time next round.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3727
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 1/17/2010 10:11:05 AM | message detail

That isn't going to tell us anything because we know CoD would pretty much fold when put in real competition.
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HaRRicH | Posted 1/17/2010 10:12:50 AM | message detail

Right, and MW2 was also third in the 00s-poll. That's why I'm trying not to downplay what Price is doing here with a terrible picture. That said, I want to see how Mega Man, Soap, and MMX/Red do before I decide how much of this is Price impressing and how much of this is MMX being revealed to be a Noble Nine-poser. I'm also hoping we figure out a lot more by the time we see those matches how big of a difference these half-matches really mean for our stats.
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 1/17/2010 10:14:19 AM | message detail

From: HaRRicH | #132
From: HaRRicH | #132
HL has been more respected/revolutionary and you're Gordon in HL instead of fighting alongside Price. I've not played and CoD-game's single-player mode, but it sounds like Price is your partner in the same way as Alyx Vance. I'm willing to give Price credit here, but being near Gordon Freeman and Master Chief isn't something I'm going to quickly cling onto until we see more definitive stuff from MMX -- I've been skeptical of him for awhile. We should know plenty more by this time next round.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3727

that poll doesn't actually mean anything ;>_>

and uh COD 4/ MW2 SPOILERS

isn't Price like... dead for MW2? I haven't played 2's campaign, but he totally died in the first one.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/17/2010 10:14:30 AM | message detail

I'm looking forward to seeing how other Western characters look in general. I think we should see a 1v1 boost across the board for them
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/17/2010 10:15:21 AM | message detail

-mw2 spoilers?-

I haven't played the 2nd, but I assumed he was dead and Soap took over the role of Price in MW2 due to that.
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HaRRicH | Posted 1/17/2010 10:17:06 AM | message detail

It'll be a fun trend to watch, but I'm not convinced we'll see something that broad be clearly seen since 2008. Who knows though, it's worth keeping an eye out.
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xp1337 | Posted 1/17/2010 10:23:44 AM | message detail

Well, since it seems there's some confusion here, and I've played the MW2 campaign... >_>

***MW2 Spoilers***

Price is assumed dead for about two-thirds of the game or so, but then you have to rescue a then unknown prisoner. It turns out to be Price, who did survive, and he joins up with you. Then in the last levels, you actually take over as Soap again and Soap (as the player) and Price single-handedly run a few missions by themselves to end the game.

***End MW2 Spoilers***
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Dilated Chemist | Posted 1/17/2010 10:25:37 AM | message detail

SPOILERS

Soap & Price are pretty much on the run at the end of the game and will be up against the world in MW3.

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Denzokuken | Posted 1/17/2010 10:27:18 AM | message detail

By the by, is anyone else thinking Price's performance is good news for Nathan Drake? Boss is no Mega Man X, even if MMX is weaker than we think, and if casual western characters are on the rise I can only see that now being a a win for Drake.

MarioSuperstar | Posted 1/17/2010 10:28:51 AM | message detail

Yeah if there is one thing I'll admit, Nathan Drake, at the very least, should give The Boss a great match. No blowout expectations anymore for Drake considering he's actually a main character.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/17/2010 10:31:49 AM | message detail

I hope Price gets into next contest in a winnable match, since he seems to have some strength.
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voltch | Posted 1/17/2010 10:32:51 AM | message detail

I dunno, MW2 probably draws most of its votes from the xbox crowd and i suspect in future contests FFXIII characters will have a much larger number of votes from the sony crowd, but yeah Drake is probably not going to embarass himself at all.
heck he might impress.
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AppreciateTrees | Posted 1/17/2010 10:33:52 AM | message detail

So Luigi over MK is pretty much a lock, right?
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charmander6000 | Posted 1/17/2010 10:37:11 AM | message detail

Yeah, Nathan is looking really good right now.
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AppreciateTrees | Posted 1/17/2010 10:38:04 AM | message detail

Yeah, Nathan is looking really good right now.

He might do better than excepted, but he won't win :D
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