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From: LeonhartFour | #397
By the way, I think Kratos might be Board 8's new most hated popular character.

Because he's facing Charizard? Kratos better pray for Duke, because Charizard's board vote is going to rough him up somethin ugly.
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No, in general. Kratos's board votes are horrible. He sucks big time in the NCAA Characters Contest, too. He got whooped by Sephiroth!
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When did Kratos become hated? I feel like I've missed something if it's something besides "He's the toughest reasonable competition to our NRTémon-winner!"
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Don't ask me. I haven't played GoW, but I don't see a lot of love for this guy around here.
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"Spoil it for me. I'm never going to play that game so I want to know if he's going to be another Auron or another Sin." - Soul about Jecht vs. PW

I'll still take Ryu. Kratos hasn't impressed me enough to think he's quite on that level yet. He wasn't able to beat SFF'd Auron last year, for example, when Ryu did.

This is entirely true and it's why I would take Ryu, but I think you can make a decent argument for Kratos. I think he's somewhat underrated around here (which is fine, I don't like him) since he's got some circumstantial stuff going for him. Like, in 2008, he got 39% on Snake while Dante only managed 36.5%. It's easy to pick holes in that argument - L-Block, for one thing, plus fourway percentages are the devil's work - but it exists nonetheless.
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Dante got LAST PLACE FACTOR'D against the Block.
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"Spoil it for me. I'm never going to play that game so I want to know if he's going to be another Auron or another Sin." - Soul about Jecht vs. PW

Last Place Factor more like Least Probable Factor!

(FPF in early rounds >> LPF)
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More like Second Place Overperforming Due to Horrible Fodder Factor (SPODTHFF for short)!
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We have a factory of terrible factors polluting our topic.
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I'm sure we'll invent other factors based on these 12-hour polls, day/night matches, and whatnot, such as the WHWIIWATFHMF and the WHWIIWAD/NMF!
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First Place Factor in round 1 is pretty well supported. Every Noble Niner and Vincent improved on their round 1 competition in round 2.
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Oh, you're talking about the OFPUF (Obvious First Place Underperformance Factor)! I see.
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everyone trying to create factors so that they can later take credit for one of the standard contest terms...........
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Who invented LFF anyway?
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creativename wasn't it?
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Probably.

Okay, let's begin Link/Thrall discussion!

So, uhhh....

Ummmm...

Chances Link breaks 90%?
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Night match. No chance.

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Link still gets half of the match during the Zelda morning vote, and he still gets the Nintendo Power Hour. Plus, Thrall's pretty junky anyway.
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First Place Factor in round 1 is pretty well supported. Every Noble Niner and Vincent improved on their round 1 competition in round 2.

All circumstantial. How come it didn't happen in 2007?

Link and Cloud performed better because their opponent was being leeched.

Mario, Crono and Snake did not perform better*

Samus, Mega Man, Sonic and Vincent's opponents were in 4th place.

Sephiroth I'll give you.

*Crono and Snake might have performed better by a slight amount, but enough to be negligible. Both roughly doubled their opponents in both rounds.

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Under 10%. It's not easy to break 90%, and Thrall does have some fans.
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nah, no way is Link breaking 90, too hard a task.
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Thrall would need to be complete fodder for Link to get under 10%, and he's proven he's at least mid to high fodder, not low.
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Well, LPF doesn't explain it entirely- why were those characters in last in their round 2 matches anyway, if they were as strong as their round 1 performances suggested?

As for 2007, it's possible that the voters weren't as familiar with 4-ways yet in round 1 that year.
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From: MyWorldIsCrono | #423
Thrall would need to be complete fodder for Link to get under 10%, and he's proven he's at least mid to high fodder, not low.

He's closer to Ratchet than he is to Vergil. He's pretty bad fodder.

But I don't expect Link to break 90% either, for the record. Chances Link goes below 80%?
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According to 2007, he's 15% on base link... thats non complete fodder level.
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I'd give link a solid mid to high 80 for that match.
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And I'd bet on that 15% on base link in 2007 to be about what Thrall gets here, so 85% for Link
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15% on Link is pretty bad. There's a pretty big gap between 15% and 20%.
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"Spoil it for me. I'm never going to play that game so I want to know if he's going to be another Auron or another Sin." - Soul about Jecht vs. PW

Probably even lower than his chances of breaking 90%. If Link fails to break 80%, I expect a lot of Cloud > Link discussion to start up. If Cloud impresses and then Magus pulls another overperformance against Link out of his hat......prepare for this board to erupt in HOPE.
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6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
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Well yeah, 15% is pretty bad. I'm just trying to say he's not the typical 16 seed fodder that Link eats up in contests like AiAi and CATS were.
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I mean, let's look at the notable characters who have been 15% on Link in the past!

Q*Bert, Kyo Kusanagi, Gordon Freeman, Little Mac, Spyro the Dragon, Laharl, Agent 47, Wesker, Kerrigan.

These would be considered by most to be bad, bad fodder.
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Ratchet (and CATS for that matter) I wouldn't call complete or low fodder either. I think everyone has slightly different uses for these phrases, but for me it goes:

The Elite:
1. Clinkeroth
2. The Rest of the Noble Nine
The Near-Elite
1. The Near-Elite
Midcarders:
1. High Midcarders
2. True Midcarders
3. Low Midcarders
Fodder:
1. High Fodder
2. Normal Fodder
3. Low Fodder
4. Bottom of the Barrel Fodder
5. Tanner, Comet Crash, etc.
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6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....

Q*Bert, Kyo Kusanagi, Gordon Freeman, Little Mac, Spyro the Dragon, Laharl, Agent 47, Wesker, Kerrigan.

one of these characters really stands out as not being in this group typically
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Before Half-Life 2, Gordon belonged in that group.
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Sox, what % on base link would you consider the different fodders?
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Hmm....what would Kefka get on Link nowadays? Let's go with:

Kefka = Fodder Line = 18%
Normal/High Fodder Line = 15%
CATS = Low/Normal Fodder Line = 11%
Bottom of the Barrel/Low Fodder Line: 9%
Tanner Fodder Line = 5%
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6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....

Oh wait, you said Base Link. I don't really think in BL terms anymore, but to make them relative to BL, adjust them all up by 10% or so.
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K I originally was fine with these matches but now I think I'm wrong. What's the consensus on these:

Altair/Liquid... I have Altair

Wesker/Ken.... I have Ken

Shepard/Ellis... I have Shepard

Freeman/Peach.... I had Peach but just switched it to Gordon.....
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Liquid > Altair
Ken > Wesker
Shepard > Ellis
Gordon > Peach
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You seem right to me on all 4.
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Incidentally, what's the plural of consensus? consensuses? consensi?
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6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
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Zidane/Ike is a little scary too... I had Zidane... then changed to Ike... then to Zidane..... Is it a 50/50 like Tidus/Sub or is them some proof to back up either pick?
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From: MadGamer_11 | #443
Zidane/Ike is a little scary too... I had Zidane... then changed to Ike... then to Zidane..... Is it a 50/50 like Tidus/Sub or is them some proof to back up either pick?

Ike (2007c) VS Zidane (2007c)

Ike has a strength of 19.51.
Zidane has a strength of 15.71.

Ike wins with 59.74% of the vote!
A win of 25,002 with 128,366 total votes cast.


plus its a day match, where ike is a beast

easy 60% win at least by ike
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and remember, those were stats of ike BEFORE brawl.
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Zidane's got Dissidia now to back him up and did surprisingly well last year to some extent, and Ike will either stay constant to last year or drop just a little.
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why are you using 4 way x-stats. You may as well just make up numbers
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Every single year Board 8 keeps overestimating Ike. Most people thought he would kill Duke, most people thought he would win over Arthas. Will you people never learn?


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Dissidia won't do a lot for Zidane.
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Yeah but it's just Zidane.
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