GameFAQs Contests

Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 778

charmander6000 | Posted 1/15/2010 12:20:52 PM | message detail
Meta Knight would win in a Brawl fight and that is all what matters.
---
Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls
Submit bracket here: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=52670380
Calintares | Posted 1/15/2010 12:26:15 PM | message detail
We can still predict it by looking at the geolocation.

Don't try it, we have no idea of how much the day/night thing affects trends.

I would guess that the votals will be lower, and that might benefit some fringe characters. There is also the matter of how many will vote in both polls.
---
Ours is not to reason why, ours is but to do and die.
HaRRicH | Posted 1/15/2010 12:31:14 PM | message detail
I don't think we can predict it that well right now...but by the end of the contest, we're going to have a pretty damn good idea. It won't be perfect, but we've got the minds, numbers, time, and desire to know what inaccuracies this format will give us compared to the original one-on-one format by the end of the contest.
---
T E A M C H O C O L A T E
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7355/64590879.png
charmander6000 | Posted 1/15/2010 12:32:08 PM | message detail
Don't try it, we have no idea of how much the day/night thing affects trends.

First I've already tried it and second I meant looking at geolocations after the contest has started. It'll probably shift as the contest goes on as more people figure out that there are two matches a day, but it'll be a start.
---
Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB8%20BOP.xls
Submit bracket here: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=52670380
MarioSuperstar | Posted 1/15/2010 12:50:37 PM | message detail
I thought we were expecting some kind of message from Bacon?
---
*is Dranze*
Krahen Prophet did a fatality.
UltimaterializerX | Posted 1/15/2010 12:55:25 PM | message detail
Albion would appreciate this one: http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/7241/zamusr2.jpg
---
The NFL and its fans don't hold to some moronic self-righteous belief that their sport is some holy relic of ethereal grace and morality. -BesaidGuy on baseball
draarrowgant | Posted 1/15/2010 12:58:13 PM | message detail
UltimaterializerX | Posted 1/15/2010 1:55:25 PM | message detail
Albion would appreciate this one: http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/7241/zamusr2.jpg


I pity the foo' who doesn't appreciate that!
---
Dream3ater: I've played every FFgame from I-XII and I barely payed attention to the story in any of them...There are a ton of people like me
TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 1/15/2010 1:26:15 PM | message detail
Not new at all; I know how ****ed up the seeds are. After all, there are two "16-seeds" that I'd advance in second if this were still a four-way (Ridley and Protoman), and I actually think Proto will score more on Snake in round 1 than whoever wins Fox-Lloyd will in round 2.

And Luigi-Meta Knight IS a legitimate match. Luigi's probably only fourth among the Mario characters, and Meta Knight has the Sword factor, the overused-in-Brawl factor (although that could also earn him some anti-voters), and the video-based intangibles (the YouTube Poops with Luigi from the old '90s cartoon are just hilariously BAD, whereas Meta Knight in the dub of the Kirby anime sounded AWESOME--and even though the gap isn't nearly so great in their Brawl voices, I think Meta still has the edge.).
MarioSuperstar | Posted 1/15/2010 1:28:18 PM | message detail
You should take Meta-Knight. That's a great upset.
---
*is Dranze*
Krahen Prophet did a fatality.
Team Rocket Elite | Posted 1/15/2010 1:30:01 PM | message detail
Marth has a sword and was heavily used in SSBM. Marth is nowhere near Luigi.
---
"Those whose memories fade seek to carve them in their hearts..."
"All dreams are but another reality. Never forget..."
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/15/2010 1:32:35 PM | message detail
popular sword users in brawl are more popular then other brawl characters, yes. But only if you consider their brawl strength.. luigi is much more then brawl
---
http://i48.tinypic.com/24ytvz8.png
Albion Hero is the Cream of Loli Fanboyism
red sox 777 | Posted 1/15/2010 1:40:07 PM | message detail
Well, Meta-Knight lost pretty easily to Ryu last year, and he's probably around Luigi's range.
---
6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/15/2010 1:42:29 PM | message detail
Speaking of which, let's argue Ryu/Dante RIGHT NOW.
---
Yoblazer: http://i38.tinypic.com/2s024p4.jpg
Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world!
red sox 777 | Posted 1/15/2010 1:50:15 PM | message detail
Hmm, looking at that again, it's not as clear cut for Dante as I'd thought. But no way am I taking Ryu after watching SF2 lose to Sonic 1 and SF4 barely beat Persona 4.
---
6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....
MarioSuperstar | Posted 1/15/2010 1:50:33 PM | message detail
The swords would definitely explain that GameFAQs appeal has a lot to do with it.

Sword = always instant strength.
---
*is Dranze*
Krahen Prophet did a fatality.
HaRRicH | Posted 1/15/2010 1:51:27 PM | message detail
I'm picking...uh, I think Dante...

*checks bracket*

...yeah, him. It's hard to be decisive on that match though.
---
T E A M C H O C O L A T E
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7355/64590879.png
UltimaterializerX | Posted 1/15/2010 1:54:38 PM | message detail

From: TsunamiXXVIII | Posted: 1/15/2010 4:26:15 PM | #358
Not new at all; I know how ****ed up the seeds are. After all, there are two "16-seeds" that I'd advance in second if this were still a four-way (Ridley and Protoman), and I actually think Proto will score more on Snake in round 1 than whoever wins Fox-Lloyd will in round 2.

And Luigi-Meta Knight IS a legitimate match. Luigi's probably only fourth among the Mario characters, and Meta Knight has the Sword factor, the overused-in-Brawl factor (although that could also earn him some anti-voters), and the video-based intangibles (the YouTube Poops with Luigi from the old '90s cartoon are just hilariously BAD, whereas Meta Knight in the dub of the Kirby anime sounded AWESOME--and even though the gap isn't nearly so great in their Brawl voices, I think Meta still has the edge.).


Yes, please pick Meta. When people spam annoying crap in the stats topic no one wants to read, I enjoy when they nuke their bracket with dumb picks.
---
.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´`·.,¸¸,.
"Oh that the world were more like Ulti." -Meeks54
UltimaterializerX | Posted 1/15/2010 1:56:04 PM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | Posted: 1/15/2010 4:42:29 PM | #363
Speaking of which, let's argue Ryu/Dante RIGHT NOW.


CAPCOM HIERARCHY RYU WINS AND THE SSF4 TURBO MEGA CHAMPION EX HD ^5x EDITION FACTOR GUY

I hate Capcom so much.
---
`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´`·.,¸¸,.·´
Lopen best poster ever? Yes.
Nomchan | Posted 1/15/2010 1:59:09 PM | message detail
What about Wesker vs Ken? I currently have Ken winning, but I'm having last minute doubts.
---
~ Birth by Sleep ~
A flat chest is a status symbol, it has immeasurable value. - Mayumi-chan
red sox 777 | Posted 1/15/2010 2:00:30 PM | message detail
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Wesker won, but his performances in the Villains Contest were so bad that I can't pick him.
---
6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/15/2010 2:02:10 PM | message detail
wesker will be lucky to not be doubled.
---
http://i48.tinypic.com/24ytvz8.png
Albion Hero is the Cream of Loli Fanboyism
HaRRicH | Posted 1/15/2010 2:05:40 PM | message detail
If Wesker wins, Ken is the weakest SF-character we've easily seen and/or RE5 did tons for Wesker. I don't buy either of those, especially to the necessary degrees to make that upset happen.

BESIDES THERE'S A CAPCOM HIERARCHY
---
T E A M C H O C O L A T E
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7355/64590879.png
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/15/2010 2:06:27 PM | message detail
and after Ken put up 35% against samus (yeah i know lol 2002), I find it hard to beleive he's fallen so much to let wesker of all characters beat him
---
http://i48.tinypic.com/24ytvz8.png
Albion Hero is the Cream of Loli Fanboyism
HaRRicH | Posted 1/15/2010 2:08:20 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1320
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2009

Hmmmmmmmmmm.
---
T E A M C H O C O L A T E
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7355/64590879.png
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/15/2010 2:10:10 PM | message detail
And I don't think RE5 should help him tremendously after seeing how it flopped in the goty polls.
---
http://i48.tinypic.com/24ytvz8.png
Albion Hero is the Cream of Loli Fanboyism
red sox 777 | Posted 1/15/2010 2:10:33 PM | message detail
Yeah, there's no reasonable argument to be made for Wesker. It's just one of those matches where I wouldn't be terribly surprised if something that should be shocking happened.
---
6 years later, Crono's quest to defeat Sephiroth -- Round 1: Missingno
'Till shade is gone, 'till water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared....
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/15/2010 2:11:10 PM | message detail
Fun fact: Every character for whom a picture of mine was used will win. Change your brackets as needed.
---
"The great GF...Bahamut."
"...GF? I...? Using my powers...It is you humans...I fear..."
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/15/2010 2:13:48 PM | message detail
Isn't Dante/Ryu a day match? If so, advantage: Dante

Oh, and here's two polls that basically give me good confidence in Ken > Wesker:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2538
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2892

So if you think Ken > Chun-Li, this should be a pretty obvious pick. RE5 vs. SFIV should be a push as far as boosts are concerned.
---
"I can set you free, mate."
"My freedom was forfeit long ago!"
HaRRicH | Posted 1/15/2010 2:14:37 PM | message detail
Yeah, RE5 bombed and didn't do much better than SF4 did anyway (which bombed last year), so neither game should matter much to them. That match is a freebie.
---
T E A M C H O C O L A T E
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7355/64590879.png
HaRRicH | Posted 1/15/2010 2:17:21 PM | message detail
For those of you who don't think Ken > Chun-Li:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3395

Not that it's guaranteed, but it's your turn for evidence against it.


It's kind of fun proving how much Ken should be favored over Wesker!
---
T E A M C H O C O L A T E
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7355/64590879.png
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/15/2010 2:18:28 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3694

Plus, Chunners didn't exactly impress here, and don't blame it on the format because Akuma did just fine.
---
"So cold. I am always by your side."
"There ain't no gettin' off of this train we on!"
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/15/2010 2:20:46 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3395
---
http://i48.tinypic.com/24ytvz8.png
Albion Hero is the Cream of Loli Fanboyism
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/15/2010 2:21:56 PM | message detail
and I would expect ken to beat Chunners even bigger if Ryu wasn't there... since Ken and Ryu are essentially the same character so Ryu SFF'd him I'm sure.
---
http://i48.tinypic.com/24ytvz8.png
Albion Hero is the Cream of Loli Fanboyism
voltch | Posted 1/15/2010 2:30:32 PM | message detail
everyone keeps saying DMC2 boosted Dante, yet that game received an even worse reception than RE5, so how much did Dante gain from a bad game?
---
Shakes Fist!
Xuxon | Posted 1/15/2010 2:31:53 PM | message detail
i thought everyone said it was dmc3 that boosted dante?
---
------
---------
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/15/2010 2:32:34 PM | message detail

From: voltch | #384
everyone keeps saying DMC2 boosted Dante, yet that game received an even worse reception than RE5, so how much did Dante gain from a bad game?


According to the stats, he did. He got doubled by Crono in 2002. He was expected to get 37% the next year. I dunno if you'd blame that on DMC2 or just Dante getting more exposure or what.
---
"Stay with me until the end. Please."
"Not until the end. Always."
The n00b Avenger | Posted 1/15/2010 2:33:24 PM | message detail
I don't think there's any evidence that it did, people are too quick to jump on that. It could just be more people knowing Dante with the natural passage of time. I mean, Dante only existed as a character for less than a year at the time of his first contest after all
---
A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice.
XxSoulxX | Posted 1/15/2010 2:37:48 PM | message detail
I don't think there's any evidence that it did, people are too quick to jump on that. It could just be more people knowing Dante with the natural passage of time. I mean, Dante only existed as a character for less than a year at the time of his first contest after all

Sounds like a certain Uncharted character I've been arguing for...
---
Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever
Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/15/2010 2:38:23 PM | message detail
There isn't a single person here who expects Drake to be the same guy who lost to CATS last year.
---
"But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside."
"I am lightning...the rain transformed."
RPGuy96 | Posted 1/15/2010 2:40:53 PM | message detail
Yeah, I think that was just naturally more exposure for Dante. The same thing happened to Kratos - he went from 44% on Alucard to 43% on Ryu before God of War II came out.

(Ah, for the days when Alucard could get 56% on Kratos...)
---
Mustache...and Green...
http://backloggery.com/rpguy96
XxSoulxX | Posted 1/15/2010 2:41:51 PM | message detail
There isn't a single person here who expects Drake to be the same guy who lost to CATS last year.

Wylvane has used that argument plenty of times.
---
Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever
Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/15/2010 2:41:57 PM | message detail
Alucard vs. Kratos now: Who you guys got?
---
"I can set you free, mate."
"My freedom was forfeit long ago!"
MarioSuperstar | Posted 1/15/2010 2:43:06 PM | message detail
Kratos easily.
---
*is Dranze*
Krahen Prophet did a fatality.
RPGuy96 | Posted 1/15/2010 2:43:37 PM | message detail
I think Kratos vs Ryu is probably the better question there.
---
Mustache...and Green...
http://backloggery.com/rpguy96
XxSoulxX | Posted 1/15/2010 2:44:54 PM | message detail
Ryu over Kratos.

I peg Kratos around the Gordon Freeman/Charizard level. As for where those guys stand, I have no idea. Probably in the upper mid carder tier, but below guys like Dante/Yoshi/Kirby.
---
Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever
Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/15/2010 2:46:12 PM | message detail
I'll still take Ryu. Kratos hasn't impressed me enough to think he's quite on that level yet. He wasn't able to beat SFF'd Auron last year, for example, when Ryu did.

Yeah, Cloud SFFs Auron harder than Sephy does, but still. He didn't get anywhere near Sonic either. He only got 36% on him. That's pretty sad on Sonic 2008. I do think I recall people saying that Sephy might have LFF'd Kratos as well, but I dunno.
---
"But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside."
"I am lightning...the rain transformed."
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/15/2010 2:47:04 PM | message detail
By the way, I think Kratos might be Board 8's new most hated popular character.
---
"But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside."
"I am lightning...the rain transformed."
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/15/2010 2:48:18 PM | message detail
Ryu > Kratos still, but Kratos beats Alucard these days (unfortunately). I can't see Kratos dropping a match to Pikachu with C. Falcon sharing the poll.

With regards to Ryu, am I just missing things, or have his two games (HD Remix and SFIV) since the last contest nary been even mentioned? Sure they're weak, but so are Dante and Kratos's games.
---
Yoblazer: http://i38.tinypic.com/2s024p4.jpg
Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world!
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/15/2010 2:49:15 PM | message detail
I just mentioned SFIV when I was talking about Ken/Wesker! Don't think I've mentioned HD Remix, but I'm still wary about what stuff like that can actually do for a character's strength. MM9 didn't seem to help Mega Man last year.
---
"But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside."
"I am lightning...the rain transformed."
HaRRicH | Posted 1/15/2010 2:49:45 PM | message detail
Two differences in the comparison between Dante boosting from DMC2 and Wesker boosting from RE5: Dante was the star in DMC2 while Wesker's the villain, and that was Dante's second game in his young gaming career while Wesker's had multiple games in the past fourteen years. They're not exactly the same scenario, so I still don't count on Wesker doing much after RE5.
---
T E A M C H O C O L A T E
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7355/64590879.png