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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 778
MarioSuperstar | Posted 1/15/2010 4:28:23 PM | message detail |
Also, extra hour added to the bracket closing time. --- *is Dranze* Krahen Prophet did a fatality. |
Xuxon | Posted 1/15/2010 4:28:49 PM | message detail |
From: Zylo the wolf | #448 and he would have, too, if it wasn't for that nosy pikachu. besides, wasn't arthas the favorite, if only because of pika? --- ------ --------- |
The n00b Avenger | Posted 1/15/2010 4:29:06 PM | message detail |
Well
if I were to try to keep it to as few channels as I can, I would point
out that Zidane got 41% on Alucard in 2007. Arthas got 42% on Alucard
in 2008. In 2008, Ike went even with Arthas despite being held back by
Pikachu, so Ike is probably > Arthas. The hole here is that Alucard might have dropped from 2007 to 2008 --- A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice. |
Zylo the wolf | Posted 1/15/2010 4:29:54 PM | message detail |
Yeah but it's just Zidane. Hey at least Zidane have advanced to round 2 once, which is more than what you can say about Ike. --- Ngamer64: Zylo, you're making less sense every day. KrahenProfit > Me |
MarioSuperstar | Posted 1/15/2010 4:30:40 PM | message detail |
The amount of times a character advances has no bearing on their strength at all. I see no way Ike loses that match. --- *is Dranze* Krahen Prophet did a fatality. |
voltch | Posted 1/15/2010 4:30:55 PM | message detail |
Dissidia
might help the lower tier Square leads and villains, it may be just a
PSP game, but it's a psp game where Cloud, Squall and Sephiroth's love
my rub off on some of the weaker guys. --- Shakes Fist! |
Nomchan | Posted 1/15/2010 4:31:24 PM | message detail |
Also, extra hour added to the bracket closing time. Dammit, Bacon. More time for me to make stupid last minute alterations and screw myself over. :( --- ~ Birth by Sleep ~ A flat chest is a status symbol, it has immeasurable value. - Mayumi-chan |
Xeybozn | Posted 1/15/2010 4:32:15 PM | message detail |
From: Zylo the wolf | #448 Ike did what he was supposed to do in '07 - that was just Duke being stronger than anybody expected. And Ike wasn't expected to beat Arthas. --- Congrats to KrahenProfit |
Zylo the wolf | Posted 1/15/2010 4:33:32 PM | message detail |
Lolol Duke hasn't been in a game for like forever, there's no way Ike losses that match. I'm not saying that Ike can't win, but he have failed to live up to expectations twice already... --- Ngamer64: Zylo, you're making less sense every day. KrahenProfit > Me |
MarioSuperstar | Posted 1/15/2010 4:36:28 PM | message detail |
I don't know what expectations you're talking about. Ike was hardly favored heavily in either of those match-ups. So what does Zidane have that would favor him over Ike? Losing to Ness? Barely beating a Wario in front of Link? Ike probably would have beaten Zidane when he was just on a website; who takes Zidane over Gordon Freeman anyway? --- *is Dranze* Krahen Prophet did a fatality. |
RPGuy96 | Posted 1/15/2010 4:36:29 PM | message detail |
That
Duke match came when Ike's only game was Path of Radiance. He was
expected be stronger than but nevertheless lose to Arthas because of
LFF, and that's exactly what he did. --- Mustache...and Green... http://backloggery.com/rpguy96 |
voltch | Posted 1/15/2010 4:42:29 PM | message detail |
obviously we chose a great time to debate furiously a match like this, but Red was a more important cause. --- DUH! |
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/15/2010 4:45:15 PM | message detail |
I didn't pick Ike to advance in either 2007 or 2008, but I have Ike > Zidane this year. And it's pretty obvious that Ike did have some Brawl hype helping him in 2007. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
Zylo the wolf | Posted 1/15/2010 4:47:16 PM | message detail |
Where
you guys even here in 2007. Ike VS Gordon was a one of the most debated
matches that contest, and I think only me and about 6 others had Duke
advance in that match. I admit Zidane haven't proved himself to be a powerhouse in the contest, but he faced Crono in 2005, didn't let Alucard, Liquid Snake and Ness run over him and beat Shadow (who is still a top 40 character) last year before he got SFF'D against Zack. And then there's Dissida which can't make Zidane weaker. But feel free to mock me if Ike upsets Zidane, because I can't think of anything that gives Ike the advantage. --- Ngamer64: Zylo, you're making less sense every day. KrahenProfit > Me |
MarioSuperstar | Posted 1/15/2010 4:48:26 PM | message detail |
But
what gives Zidane the advantage? Beating Shadow? How do you explain him
being so close to Wario? Would you really take Ike to be that much less
than Ness (if he even is)? --- *is Dranze* Krahen Prophet did a fatality. |
Zylo the wolf | Posted 1/15/2010 4:48:43 PM | message detail |
Oh wait Leon has Ike winning, nevermind everything I just said >_> --- Ngamer64: Zylo, you're making less sense every day. KrahenProfit > Me |
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/15/2010 4:49:47 PM | message detail |
Ike > Zidane isn't the upset. Plus, this is a day match, which won't do Zidane any favors. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
Biolizard28 | Posted 1/15/2010 4:51:59 PM | message detail |
Zidane stands no chance of beating Ike. Hell, I don't even think Vivi has what it takes. --- It may be insulting, but it's true! Now this is entertainment! |
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/15/2010 4:52:28 PM | message detail |
I'd take Vivi > Ike. He's not THAT strong. --- "The great GF...Bahamut." "...GF? I...? Using my powers...It is you humans...I fear..." |
RPGuy96 | Posted 1/15/2010 4:52:39 PM | message detail |
Shadow is most certainly not a top 40 character. --- Mustache...and Green... http://backloggery.com/rpguy96 |
Biolizard28 | Posted 1/15/2010 4:53:16 PM | message detail |
And
by the way, the fact that Zidane managed to win a squeaker against an
SFF'd Shadow, who one year earlier was losing updates to Pyramid Head,
shouldn't be used to his credit. --- It may be insulting, but it's true! Now this is entertainment! |
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/15/2010 4:53:59 PM | message detail |
Yeah, beating Shadow isn't quite what it used to be. Zidane lost handily to Ness. You know, like Carl Johnson and Jak. I don't think anyone would take either of those two guys over Ike. --- "The great GF...Bahamut." "...GF? I...? Using my powers...It is you humans...I fear..." |
voltch | Posted 1/15/2010 4:55:28 PM | message detail |
pff,
my crystal balls tell me FFIX announced on PSN the day before that
match, Zidane then loses cos everyone is too busy playing that awesome
game. --- Shakes Fist! |
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/15/2010 5:01:12 PM | message detail |
Heck, I doubt many people take Ness > Ike at this point. --- "Hold on a minute! That testimony stinks!" "Witness! You can't just say 'Hello' and expect us to get anywhere! I want you to testify!" |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/15/2010 5:06:17 PM | message detail |
Ike
hasn't won a match yet, but he's looked damn impressive in his
matches... and this is finally his time to shine and show how strong he
really is. --- http://i48.tinypic.com/24ytvz8.png Albion Hero is the Cream of Loli Fanboyism |
RPGuy96 | Posted 1/15/2010 5:06:48 PM | message detail |
I should hope not. Ike got 45% on the rate while Ness got 30% on Mewtwo. That match isn't remotely close. --- Mustache...and Green... http://backloggery.com/rpguy96 |
RPGuy96 | Posted 1/15/2010 5:07:39 PM | message detail |
The rat, rather. Yes, yes, SFF fourway match, but that's a huge difference. --- Mustache...and Green... http://backloggery.com/rpguy96 |
KamikazePotato | Posted 1/15/2010 5:13:32 PM | message detail |
Even if Dissidia has boosted Zidane, the fact that it's a day match should prevent anyone from taking him to beat Ike there. --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
RPGuy96 | Posted 1/15/2010 5:16:13 PM | message detail |
I'd usually scoff at night/day stuff...but I think this one is worthy of a Fun Fact. Fun Fact: Last year, Zidane beat Shadow by 3094 votes in the night half and lost by 63 in the day half. --- Mustache...and Green... http://backloggery.com/rpguy96 |
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/15/2010 5:18:38 PM | message detail |
FFIX's
day vote is of old school FF levels of calamity. I'm not big on
day/night changing a whole lot, but in a match like Ike/Zidane where
Ike is already the favorite, it basically rules out any chance of
Zidane scoring an upset. --- "Stay with me until the end. Please." "Not until the end. Always." |
KamikazePotato | Posted 1/15/2010 5:19:36 PM | message detail |
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/board8/images/1/19/Graph3259.png --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
Classadelphia | Posted 1/15/2010 5:19:50 PM | message detail |
Wish
I had actually had time to get into this bracket.. finally get some 1v1
and I'm going to bracketless (don't really feel like flinging one
together). --- Class, Class, Classadelphia. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/15/2010 5:20:57 PM | message detail |
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/images/poll_graph.php?matchnum=2893&type=2&seconds=60&max=0 Speaking of poll updates, looks like creative's got the poll updater ready to go for tonight! Huzzah! --- "Spoil it for me. I'm never going to play that game so I want to know if he's going to be another Auron or another Sin." - Soul about Jecht vs. PW |
RPGuy96 | Posted 1/15/2010 5:21:50 PM | message detail |
That graph, of course, brings me to this: Fun Fact #2: Last year, Arthas beat Ike by 2250 in the night half and lost by 1248 in the day half. --- Mustache...and Green... http://backloggery.com/rpguy96 |
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/15/2010 5:22:15 PM | message detail |
Ike vs. Master Chief: Go go go! --- "Hold on a minute! That testimony stinks!" "Witness! You can't just say 'Hello' and expect us to get anywhere! I want you to testify!" |
KamikazePotato | Posted 1/15/2010 5:23:16 PM | message detail |
Ike. In 1 v 1 Master Chief folds to any Squintendo character worth anything, i think. --- KrahenProphet lived up to his name. |
ZFS | Posted 1/15/2010 5:23:55 PM | message detail |
The
whole day/night thing doesn't seem like it's going to give any
character some big advantage over another. The people who vote at night
will just be voting during the day, you'll get a mixing of the two
instead of defined night voters and day voters. --- the journey of a thousand miles must begin with a single step |
RPGuy96 | Posted 1/15/2010 5:29:27 PM | message detail |
I
agree mostly, though I definitely think night bleeds into day more than
day bleeds into night and night matches could be really weird. But in
the case of something like Ike/Zidane where the advantage is so
overwhelming it's going to make a difference. There were, I think, four
1v1 matches from 2k5 and 2k6 where a hard cutoff would have changed the
results...and both of Ike's fourway matches would have changed in the
day and one of Zidane's would have. That's pretty remarkable. --- Mustache...and Green... http://backloggery.com/rpguy96 |
Classadelphia | Posted 1/15/2010 5:39:16 PM | message detail |
I'd
agree with that... I don't think day characters will see any
advantages, night characters might be able to pull off some close ones
if it's a night match. Just seems like the night voters are more
willing to come throughout the day. --- Class, Class, Classadelphia. |
XxSoulxX | Posted 1/15/2010 6:20:43 PM | message detail |
so it's 40 minutes until bracket lock down? --- Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/15/2010 6:24:05 PM | message detail |
From: Classadelphia | #489 A large amount of night voters are probably people from other continents though like Europe and Asia... the Midnight to Noon time might be the best time for them and might not find time during the day match. Will be interesting to see how the geolocation looks for each type of match --- http://i48.tinypic.com/24ytvz8.png Albion Hero is the Cream of Loli Fanboyism |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 1/15/2010 7:05:00 PM | message detail |
From: Classadelphia | Posted: 1/15/2010 8:39:16 PM | #489 There are definitely matches where the time of the poll swayed me. Ike v Zidane is the biggest example, but then there's stuff like Drake/The Boss. MGS is awful during the day. Or Snake/Seph, even. --- "I want to crawl into a hole and die every time I read a lihlih post." -FFDragon |
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/15/2010 7:20:59 PM | message detail |
Uncharted didn't do so well for itself during the day either. It won't be a day game. --- "Hold on a minute! That testimony stinks!" "Witness! You can't just say 'Hello' and expect us to get anywhere! I want you to testify!" |
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/15/2010 7:21:08 PM | message detail |
And Drake won't be a day character. --- "Stay with me until the end. Please." "Not until the end. Always." |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 1/15/2010 7:22:34 PM | message detail |
From: LeonhartFour | Posted: 1/15/2010 10:21:08 PM | #494 Yeah trends based on a match where someone for 6% in a fourway poll sure do matter. --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´`·.,¸¸,.·´ If anyone is fit to shine, it is I. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/15/2010 7:24:11 PM | message detail |
Yeah trends based on a match where someone for 6% in a fourway poll sure do matter. Games' trends don't really differ much from the trends of characters. If someone can find me an example of a case where this isn't true, I'd be glad to change my mind on it, but Uncharted's day vote was pretty bad, so Drake's probably will be, too. --- "Stay with me until the end. Please." "Not until the end. Always." |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 1/15/2010 7:24:55 PM | message detail |
Boss's will be far worse. --- "Watching regs bash Ulti is like watching an ant colony revolt against a lawnmower." -Lucid Faia |
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/15/2010 7:25:44 PM | message detail |
Far worse? The Boss's day vote hasn't been that bad in any of her matches. --- "Stay with me until the end. Please." "Not until the end. Always." |
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 1/15/2010 7:26:11 PM | message detail |
Lightning > Sonic --- If you're seeing this sig, I'm not on my computer! |
LeonhartFour | Posted 1/15/2010 7:26:41 PM | message detail |
Lightning > Cloud --- "Stay with me until the end. Please." "Not until the end. Always." |