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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 778

MarioSuperstar | Posted 1/15/2010 4:28:23 PM | message detail
Also, extra hour added to the bracket closing time.
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Xuxon | Posted 1/15/2010 4:28:49 PM | message detail

From: Zylo the wolf | #448
most people thought he would win over Arthas


and he would have, too, if it wasn't for that nosy pikachu.

besides, wasn't arthas the favorite, if only because of pika?
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 1/15/2010 4:29:06 PM | message detail
Well if I were to try to keep it to as few channels as I can, I would point out that Zidane got 41% on Alucard in 2007. Arthas got 42% on Alucard in 2008. In 2008, Ike went even with Arthas despite being held back by Pikachu, so Ike is probably > Arthas.

The hole here is that Alucard might have dropped from 2007 to 2008
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 1/15/2010 4:29:54 PM | message detail
Yeah but it's just Zidane.

Hey at least Zidane have advanced to round 2 once, which is more than what you can say about Ike.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 1/15/2010 4:30:40 PM | message detail
The amount of times a character advances has no bearing on their strength at all.

I see no way Ike loses that match.
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voltch | Posted 1/15/2010 4:30:55 PM | message detail
Dissidia might help the lower tier Square leads and villains, it may be just a PSP game, but it's a psp game where Cloud, Squall and Sephiroth's love my rub off on some of the weaker guys.
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Nomchan | Posted 1/15/2010 4:31:24 PM | message detail
Also, extra hour added to the bracket closing time.

Dammit, Bacon. More time for me to make stupid last minute alterations and screw myself over. :(
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Xeybozn | Posted 1/15/2010 4:32:15 PM | message detail

From: Zylo the wolf | #448
Every single year Board 8 keeps overestimating Ike. Most people thought he would kill Duke, most people thought he would win over Arthas. Will you people never learn?


Ike did what he was supposed to do in '07 - that was just Duke being stronger than anybody expected. And Ike wasn't expected to beat Arthas.
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 1/15/2010 4:33:32 PM | message detail
Lolol Duke hasn't been in a game for like forever, there's no way Ike losses that match.

I'm not saying that Ike can't win, but he have failed to live up to expectations twice already...
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 1/15/2010 4:36:28 PM | message detail
I don't know what expectations you're talking about. Ike was hardly favored heavily in either of those match-ups.

So what does Zidane have that would favor him over Ike? Losing to Ness? Barely beating a Wario in front of Link? Ike probably would have beaten Zidane when he was just on a website; who takes Zidane over Gordon Freeman anyway?
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RPGuy96 | Posted 1/15/2010 4:36:29 PM | message detail
That Duke match came when Ike's only game was Path of Radiance. He was expected be stronger than but nevertheless lose to Arthas because of LFF, and that's exactly what he did.
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voltch | Posted 1/15/2010 4:42:29 PM | message detail
obviously we chose a great time to debate furiously a match like this, but Red was a more important cause.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/15/2010 4:45:15 PM | message detail
I didn't pick Ike to advance in either 2007 or 2008, but I have Ike > Zidane this year.

And it's pretty obvious that Ike did have some Brawl hype helping him in 2007.
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 1/15/2010 4:47:16 PM | message detail
Where you guys even here in 2007. Ike VS Gordon was a one of the most debated matches that contest, and I think only me and about 6 others had Duke advance in that match.

I admit Zidane haven't proved himself to be a powerhouse in the contest, but he faced Crono in 2005, didn't let Alucard, Liquid Snake and Ness run over him and beat Shadow (who is still a top 40 character) last year before he got SFF'D against Zack.

And then there's Dissida which can't make Zidane weaker.

But feel free to mock me if Ike upsets Zidane, because I can't think of anything that gives Ike the advantage.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 1/15/2010 4:48:26 PM | message detail
But what gives Zidane the advantage? Beating Shadow? How do you explain him being so close to Wario? Would you really take Ike to be that much less than Ness (if he even is)?


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Zylo the wolf | Posted 1/15/2010 4:48:43 PM | message detail
Oh wait Leon has Ike winning, nevermind everything I just said >_>
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/15/2010 4:49:47 PM | message detail
Ike > Zidane isn't the upset. Plus, this is a day match, which won't do Zidane any favors.
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Biolizard28 | Posted 1/15/2010 4:51:59 PM | message detail
Zidane stands no chance of beating Ike. Hell, I don't even think Vivi has what it takes.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/15/2010 4:52:28 PM | message detail
I'd take Vivi > Ike. He's not THAT strong.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 1/15/2010 4:52:39 PM | message detail
Shadow is most certainly not a top 40 character.
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Biolizard28 | Posted 1/15/2010 4:53:16 PM | message detail
And by the way, the fact that Zidane managed to win a squeaker against an SFF'd Shadow, who one year earlier was losing updates to Pyramid Head, shouldn't be used to his credit.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/15/2010 4:53:59 PM | message detail
Yeah, beating Shadow isn't quite what it used to be. Zidane lost handily to Ness.

You know, like Carl Johnson and Jak. I don't think anyone would take either of those two guys over Ike.
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voltch | Posted 1/15/2010 4:55:28 PM | message detail
pff, my crystal balls tell me FFIX announced on PSN the day before that match, Zidane then loses cos everyone is too busy playing that awesome game.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/15/2010 5:01:12 PM | message detail
Heck, I doubt many people take Ness > Ike at this point.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/15/2010 5:06:17 PM | message detail
Ike hasn't won a match yet, but he's looked damn impressive in his matches... and this is finally his time to shine and show how strong he really is.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 1/15/2010 5:06:48 PM | message detail
I should hope not. Ike got 45% on the rate while Ness got 30% on Mewtwo. That match isn't remotely close.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 1/15/2010 5:07:39 PM | message detail
The rat, rather.

Yes, yes, SFF fourway match, but that's a huge difference.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/15/2010 5:13:32 PM | message detail
Even if Dissidia has boosted Zidane, the fact that it's a day match should prevent anyone from taking him to beat Ike there.

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RPGuy96 | Posted 1/15/2010 5:16:13 PM | message detail
I'd usually scoff at night/day stuff...but I think this one is worthy of a Fun Fact.

Fun Fact: Last year, Zidane beat Shadow by 3094 votes in the night half and lost by 63 in the day half.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/15/2010 5:18:38 PM | message detail
FFIX's day vote is of old school FF levels of calamity. I'm not big on day/night changing a whole lot, but in a match like Ike/Zidane where Ike is already the favorite, it basically rules out any chance of Zidane scoring an upset.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/15/2010 5:19:36 PM | message detail
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Classadelphia | Posted 1/15/2010 5:19:50 PM | message detail
Wish I had actually had time to get into this bracket.. finally get some 1v1 and I'm going to bracketless (don't really feel like flinging one together).

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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/15/2010 5:20:57 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/images/poll_graph.php?matchnum=2893&type=2&seconds=60&max=0

Speaking of poll updates, looks like creative's got the poll updater ready to go for tonight! Huzzah!
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RPGuy96 | Posted 1/15/2010 5:21:50 PM | message detail
That graph, of course, brings me to this:

Fun Fact #2: Last year, Arthas beat Ike by 2250 in the night half and lost by 1248 in the day half.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/15/2010 5:22:15 PM | message detail
Ike vs. Master Chief: Go go go!
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/15/2010 5:23:16 PM | message detail
Ike. In 1 v 1 Master Chief folds to any Squintendo character worth anything, i think.

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ZFS | Posted 1/15/2010 5:23:55 PM | message detail
The whole day/night thing doesn't seem like it's going to give any character some big advantage over another. The people who vote at night will just be voting during the day, you'll get a mixing of the two instead of defined night voters and day voters.

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RPGuy96 | Posted 1/15/2010 5:29:27 PM | message detail
I agree mostly, though I definitely think night bleeds into day more than day bleeds into night and night matches could be really weird. But in the case of something like Ike/Zidane where the advantage is so overwhelming it's going to make a difference. There were, I think, four 1v1 matches from 2k5 and 2k6 where a hard cutoff would have changed the results...and both of Ike's fourway matches would have changed in the day and one of Zidane's would have. That's pretty remarkable.
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Classadelphia | Posted 1/15/2010 5:39:16 PM | message detail
I'd agree with that... I don't think day characters will see any advantages, night characters might be able to pull off some close ones if it's a night match. Just seems like the night voters are more willing to come throughout the day.

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XxSoulxX | Posted 1/15/2010 6:20:43 PM | message detail
so it's 40 minutes until bracket lock down?
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/15/2010 6:24:05 PM | message detail

From: Classadelphia | #489
I'd agree with that... I don't think day characters will see any advantages, night characters might be able to pull off some close ones if it's a night match. Just seems like the night voters are more willing to come throughout the day.


A large amount of night voters are probably people from other continents though like Europe and Asia... the Midnight to Noon time might be the best time for them and might not find time during the day match. Will be interesting to see how the geolocation looks for each type of match
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 1/15/2010 7:05:00 PM | message detail

From: Classadelphia | Posted: 1/15/2010 8:39:16 PM | #489
I'd agree with that... I don't think day characters will see any advantages, night characters might be able to pull off some close ones if it's a night match. Just seems like the night voters are more willing to come throughout the day.


There are definitely matches where the time of the poll swayed me. Ike v Zidane is the biggest example, but then there's stuff like Drake/The Boss. MGS is awful during the day.

Or Snake/Seph, even.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/15/2010 7:20:59 PM | message detail
Uncharted didn't do so well for itself during the day either. It won't be a day game.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/15/2010 7:21:08 PM | message detail
And Drake won't be a day character.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 1/15/2010 7:22:34 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | Posted: 1/15/2010 10:21:08 PM | #494
And Drake won't be a day character.


Yeah trends based on a match where someone for 6% in a fourway poll sure do matter.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/15/2010 7:24:11 PM | message detail
Yeah trends based on a match where someone for 6% in a fourway poll sure do matter.

Games' trends don't really differ much from the trends of characters. If someone can find me an example of a case where this isn't true, I'd be glad to change my mind on it, but Uncharted's day vote was pretty bad, so Drake's probably will be, too.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 1/15/2010 7:24:55 PM | message detail
Boss's will be far worse.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/15/2010 7:25:44 PM | message detail
Far worse? The Boss's day vote hasn't been that bad in any of her matches.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 1/15/2010 7:26:11 PM | message detail
Lightning > Sonic
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/15/2010 7:26:41 PM | message detail
Lightning > Cloud
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